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Politics / Re: Anioma And Igbo Trends On Twitter by Ikechunna: 11:39am On Apr 29, 2020
Cjrane2:


As an Igboman from Anioma part of Igboland.
I find this thread a little bit annoying! Why can't we make a similar thread about Afikpo Igbos, Ngwa Igbos or Nsukka Igbos saying they are proud of being Igbo? Or another Igbo group? It is clear that Nigeria's Fulani leaders agenda since time immemorial has been to balkanize Igboland beginning with carving out Igbo people at the periphery of Igboland and joining them with other groups or other states as minority there. In our stupidity, we allowed them to do it for way too long.


Every true Anioma person that didn't benefit from the politics of Nigeria or Bendel State knows we have NEVER hidden our Igboness. Of course there were a few people that were motivated by the Nigerian regime to come out and say rubbish about our Igbo ancestry in their desperation to kill Biafran unity. Those people have been relegated to the dustbin of history. Moreso, Anioma Igbos singularly paid the biggest price by the genocide of our people during the civil war. If we were not Igbos, WHY WOULD FULANI SLAUGHTER US IN OUR VILLAGES?

Again, our sons volunteered and fought bravely during the Biafran war. Nobody especially Col. Murtala Mohammed will deny their fear of Col. Joe Achuzia. I know threads like this are started by Afonjas to do their bid. But, when I see respectable monikers falling for their deceit I worry about the new generation that does not know their history.

THANK YOU SO MUCH for this post!!! I legit was clapping reading this. Scream it loud for the ones in the back room can hear it!!

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Politics / Re: Anioma And Igbo Trends On Twitter by Ikechunna: 11:36am On Apr 29, 2020
Aksnoopy:
The issue of aniomas being igbo has once again been settled on twitter with majority of Igbo's who speak the anioma dialect of Igbo arguing that they are more Igbo than their eastern brother's and sister's. I totally agree with the fact that anioma's are truly igbo's, politics aside. Here is Hon ndudi elumelu, the younger brother of Tony elumelu the CEO of UBA bank affirming his igboness on the lower floor of the National Assembly.
https://mobile.twitter.com/UcheOkoyep/status/1254411102714310657

I logged in simply to say this: Oya see am!! Again I’ve been vindicated!! I kept on telling una SE igbo wey dey this forum that the pride of Igbo overshadows the Igbo deniers in Aniomaland. I and some Aniomas on this forum kept on saying they are minorities but, unfortunately the most loudest and to ignore them as the rest of us do but Nooooooooo. I was bashed, accused of being a liar and told I don’t know anything about what’s happening in my own homeland since, I live aboard. Infact, the last time I logged into this forum, I got into a huge argument with SE Igbos and next thing I know I was being accused of hating Igbo and being just like the deniers just because I defended my people against the usual bashing on us by some SE Igbos. Oya see am. Vindicated!! I need my apologies abeg. For all una wey they bash before tok say I dey lie, line up, I’m collecting apologies grin grin grin

Anyway serious talk, it is a shame that Twitter comments is what supposedly “settled” this argument. It sad how we always have to validate and announce our Igboness for SE to realize the idiots reporting to una that Anioma hates y’all are bastards trying to create tensions and turn una against your own brethren. Sad really that y’all haven’t seen their games yet. Anyway, much love to all Igbos be it SS or SE.

Oya let me go back to my hiatus

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Politics / Re: Those Who Hoped That Kanu Would Return To Be Killed Or Locked Up, Come Cry Here by Ikechunna: 6:11pm On Feb 15, 2020
I’ve been reading the report of people that went to the burial. Supposedly, the they surrounded his parents burial with military. Boko Haram is making menace meat with them and they surrounded an unarmed man’s parents burial hoping to see him. grin grin If that isn’t the definition of misplaced priority and the most useless government known to men, I don’t know what is. No wonder that shithole is a failed state. Nnamdi Kanu is very likely laughing his ass off somewhere. Like really, a man taunted you to take resources you could have used to defeat the so “defeated militants” that stays making them their menace meat to surround his backyard looking for him. grin grin grin. The shit that makes it even more funnier is that they believed the mockery is on Nnamdi Kanu and not their government. Once more, a civilian proved the incompetence of a whole federal government and their zombies honestly any the populace to believe the mockery falls on the civilian. Laughable

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Politics / Re: Nnamdi Kanu's Parents' Burial Unites South-East And South-South (Photos) by Ikechunna: 5:51pm On Feb 15, 2020
wirinet:


I thought you knew what a delta is, and how deltas form. Obviously, you don't. So let me school you, although IPOB are never interested in learning, they just spew propaganda and fantasies as fact.



The Niger Delta is the delta linking the River Niger to the Atlantic ocean. These are only 3 states namely Delta, Bayelsa and Rivers states.

The political deltas were created by politicians as a means of distributing oil monies or derivation among oil producing states.

Abacha and Babangida created OMPADEC comprising 6 states namely Akwa Ibom, Bayelsa, Cross River, Delta, Edo, and Rivers states. When Obasanjo came on board in 1999, he added 3 more states, namely Abia, Imo and Ondo and renamed the commission Niger Delta Development Commission.

Below is the 13% derivation for the first half of last year which reflect the percentage of oil produced by the states of the NDDC. Abia and Imo states contribution is less than 3%

1.) Oil is becoming an obselete resources. More scientists and engineerer are creating equipment that utilizes cleaner fuel and oil is currently in the downward spiral of becoming a fossil fuel equivalent to that of coal. The fact your average Niggerian isn't aware of this speaks highly on why you people are extremely backwards in development and even other Africans are passing una by in rapid speed.

2.) I suggest read or even listen to Biafra agitators ideology and plan. They have been adamant on doing doing the complete OPPOSITE of what Nigeria is doing be it political, economical and social dynamic. They have been extremely adamant that oil is a resources they wouldn't focus on utilizing Niggeria as a perfect example of the backwardness it creates.

3.) Several of the Igbo community in "Niger Delta" contribute significantly to the oil production. One of the largest oil producing area of River State belonged to the Igbo community that was carved out of Abia state (maps for your viewing pleasure) Ikwerre isn't who I'm talking about. What's even funny was the side left on Abia state on the guise there was no oil in that part of their village ended up finding one themselves. Hilarious.

Anyway, the Igbos have more than enough oil to support ourselves. Carving some of us to River State or Delta State does not remove our tribal identity just cause una desperately want it to be. In addition, neither is that fossil fuel of oil is what Biafrans are planning on utilizing for development. Your Niggeria have given everyone an overview of what to expect and nobody wants to replicate Niggeria in any way, shape or form.

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Politics / Re: Nnamdi Kanu's Parents' Burial Unites South-East And South-South (Photos) by Ikechunna: 5:31pm On Feb 15, 2020
tsdarkside:


am not yoruba....i dont know who told you that nonesense....
i have nothing with igbos,doesnt mean am yoruba....

have you people forgotin we are many tribes....??

i dont like how you south easterners behave....and am not alone that thinks like this....

their are even igbos dont like how many other igbos behave....

You actually still pretending to be a non-yoruba on this forum. How pathetic. Do you think anyone have forgotten your exposure. So pathetic!!
Politics / Re: Nnamdi Kanu's Parents' Burial Unites South-East And South-South (Photos) by Ikechunna: 5:30pm On Feb 15, 2020
jimyjames:
The attendance of traditional rulers ,chiefs kings and queens all over SS/SE its a proof the old eastern region is still one united region, even though FG divided it into 2 geopolitical zones to stop them from uniting for a secession a second time

We had traditional rulers and chiefs , from ijaw , ikwerre anang , efik , ogoni , Ibibio , idoma etc all in afara ukwu ibeku to pay their last respect to nnamdi KANUs parents


Respect is given to a man that have proven over and over again that he deserves respect. Nnamdi Kanu have repeatedly stated what’s on the mind of your average SE and SS and do not give a Bleep who he offends. Both of his parents, RIP, have repeatedly stood by him throughout everything and supported each of his action without a care the danger it exposed them to. To put it in terms, both Nnamdi Kanu and his parents did what all those leaders you see up wish they can do. You pay respect to people who show their strength. I repeat the day I started seeing even Ikas supporting Nnamdi Kanu was the day I learned that man is doing wonders despite all the loud mouthing some "We SS" and Buhari zombies are doing on this forum and social media. Hell even some people that I'm friends with on FB that used to belittle Nnamdi Kanu were literally writing euology for his parents and praising Kanu. Shit shocked me, the level of popularity and support he is getting. Nnamdi, imo, is the modern day Malcolm X imo. Dude gives no bleeps who he groads as long as he is speaking/fighting for the benefit of his people and because of that, people are admiring him for it. His parents being associated to him are equally sharing on that admiration. I'm sure if any of Kanu's family member passes away again, the same turn out will be observed. Nnamdi Kanu have brought nothing but mad respect to his entire family for generations to come. This is what you're observing from this burial turnout.

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Politics / Re: We Are Not Igbo– Dr Ojieh, National President Izu Anioma. by Ikechunna: 11:07pm On Feb 10, 2020
UdechiHD:
You’re still not getting it. It’s obvious you’ll never understand. I don’t know when last you even returned home to observe certain changes in your land.

Imagine you of all people compare some political interviews of some Igbos to that of blatant Igbophobic denial of those others in the SS. None of those SE Igbos you listed have ever denied their Igboness. Not Okorocha, not Joe and not Uwazurike. As a matter of fact, they’ll fight you if you try to call them non-Igbos. Even the Igbo based SE state groups are always ready to refute any baseless claims from anyone, something that is a mystery in Anioma. Take a look at the newspaper reports you’re digging up about these individuals and see if it correlates to anything identity crisis?
Learn to separate political topics from identity crisis. Stop arguing semantics.

Already you’re firing your missiles at those who have given you utmost respect in this forum, yet you don’t see that something is wrong somewhere? Only you Ikechunna, and a handful that have also disappeared have held the forte for years on this forum. But you don’t ask yourself why are your comrades suddenly drowned their voices. Go online and offline and you’ll be shocked to see a surprise shift by the people you think are with you. Ask them why the change of heart and they’ll blame the SE for becoming Igbophobic. Cowardly excuses.

I can boast that you Ikechunna in no distant time may turn another Emeka Esogbue and give us flimsy reasons why you became anti-Igbo too. You’re gradually showing such traits and you don’t even know it. Imagine the vituperations you’re throwing on your suppose people.
You want to just fight those who point out the cracks in Anioma identity issues but yet, you’re not willing to understand the issues at stake.

The modern SE Igbo are no longer the unity begging type anymore. Something tells me that a new group is emerging in that axis. Not the IPOB unity beggars, but a stronger one is willing to cut off itself totally from those who play politics with the Igbo identity.

More example of the double standard I speak of. What is worse? A man that insults the tribe he says he identify as or a man that do not insult the tribe but, self identify as another identity. In the logic of SE, it is the latter. Only in SE Igbos that logics turn upside down. What is difference between una and SW? Not a God damn thing.

The hilarious your excuse for the anti Igbo non stop rhethorics amongst your people applies to the only Anioma that you listed during your show of ignorance aka Lauretta Onochie as well. Not surprised you don't see it. Maybe you seem to have forgotten that Onochie is a member of this forum circa 2015-2019. Prior to self identifying as Anioma as of late, she identified as Igbo repeatedly on this forum which I'll be more than happy to repost if need be. Several of your people attacked her for it, I'll be happy to back it up as well now you okay innocent. You people accusation towards her was based on her Anti Igbo rhetoric to appease APC which is the SAME EXACT THING Okorocha and Co did but, justified by you lots. Even when she started her attacks on SE, an Anioma group addressed her but, as usual, unregistered or rather not cared by you people.

Secondly, funny how being called "Bini" and my people called "confused, not industrious, lazy, drunkards, political thieves, etc" are lifted as the upmost respect to me by you. I feel so honored on the "respect" towards me and my people. What such brilliant "upmost respect". In the spirit of respect, all my comments towards SE is equally upmost respect.

Laughable, that those that know nothing about our area, absolutely not a Goddamn thing is informing me what's going on in my territory. Isn't that laughable? It is Ike me informing SE wtf is going on in SE. Oh thank you upmost respectful SE Igbo know all. I'm still waiting on the Asagba that's Igbo phobic btw.

Anyway, let just go by your own narrative, isn't it funny how ALWAYS SE REFUSES TO take the blame for their actions by rather make it of as "cowardly reaction.". Yes, SE is allowed to belittle and insult others on multiple occasions, accuse of them trying to be like you, seen as less than and finally exposed on this topic, you lots see our identity as "accomdating" people on their identity yet, you expect the same set of people you lots insults to continously accept the maltreatment by you people without protest. Hilarious you lots expect us to CONTINOUSLY see things on your perspective but, refuses in hell to see things from our perspective despite multiple leaders informing SE on their actions and the effect it is having on SS Igbos. Then again, any wrong doing by SE isn't wrong doing. Of course, you people have the right to do as you want. Any reaction is cowardly. Bleep out of here.

And yes, if I ever turn into one of the deniers, that blame fall squarely on the head of SE IGBOS without a fucking doubt and no, that's not being cowardly but a fact. Since childhood, SE have ALWAYS been Anti-Anioma and coming on this forum, I expected differently but, Ironically, saw the same thing. Luckily for me, my parents educated me on my identity thus, I will not give an ego centric people who decieve themselves as leaders as igbo to turn my mentality on what it me. My only opinion of una is exactly una opinion of us aka we aren't brethrens. You people can treat Anioma as a Pariah if y’all so wish. That’s fine, una do you, we do us but, the Igbo identity is ours as much as it is SE. That's all that matters. Those of us in Delta that identify as Igbo will continue to identify as Igbo. SE cannot tell us what we should or shouldn't take from it. If una like focus your attention on the igbo deniers as much as y'all like and fabricate any stories to justify una prejudice attitude.

Lastly, the handful that have left this forum is because of SE. I, myself is joining those that left in leaving this forum and I know my reason is because of SE. Your actions towards Anioma on this forum multiple times is pushing me to leave because if I continously stay watching you bastards insulting us whenever you people get the chance will make me hate you people the same as I hate Yoruba. The fact I'm starting to see SE Igbos in the same level as Yoruba people is a bad thing. That's why I'm leaving. Two of my friends that used to be a member of this forum that equally used to defend SE and against una bashing of Anioma left because of SE Igbos on this forum. I'm sure the ones that were members that I didn't know personally, very likely left for the same reason. After all, a very Igbo defender Anioma on this forum is still very active on Facebook but, he has not been active on this forum since 2010. I wonder why. Anyway, yes blame us for being "cowardly" rather than address the vile attitude by you lots.
Politics / Re: We Are Not Igbo– Dr Ojieh, National President Izu Anioma. by Ikechunna: 9:49pm On Feb 10, 2020
MelesZenawi:



Then why dissipating do much energy on Igbos issues. Seems you always feel alright hauling Insults at Igbos.
But SE Igbos felt alright to haul insults on Anioma. Ha. SE dish what they get. I warned earlier, you insult us, I'll insult them back. Cry me a fucking river. This isn't the past where I let them fuckers treat us anyhow just because I was trying to be peaceful to my "brethren". Nonsense. They get wtf they dish out.
Politics / Re: We Are Not Igbo– Dr Ojieh, National President Izu Anioma. by Ikechunna: 9:41pm On Feb 10, 2020
MelesZenawi:



Continue Insulting yourself and not Igbos.

Last I checked, I'm not from SE. The insulting Igbos that's a SE thing. Move make I see better road.
Politics / Re: We Are Not Igbo– Dr Ojieh, National President Izu Anioma. by Ikechunna: 9:00pm On Feb 10, 2020
maestroferddi:
You appear to be catching at straws.

Uwazuruike has never denied being Igbo. Infact he has invested over 20 years of his lifetime agitating for Igbo self-determination...

I am not absolving him from some making ill-advised and unguarded utterances.

FFK has been known to occasionally hit Yorubas hard but he has never denied his Yoruba roots...

Stop conflating issues by seeing apples as oranges...

Hilarious making this comment "I am not absolving him from some making ill-advised and unguarded utterances" in a comment actually doing that.

I've not met any Anioma that insulted Igbos to the level of the screenshot

Nor have I met any Anioma who have insulted Igbo as much as your Okorocha, Joe Igbokwe, or even the Imon state born Igbo Dr that resides in USA (name eluding me right now) who entire living hood is writing degrading topics/articles on Igbo. Let not forget when Nnamdi Kanu/Ipob the "Igbos" that were making videos insulting Igbos especially that one "actress" chick. Hilariously, none came from Anioma and it was Aniomas that started the protest to get him released when he was first arrested..FFK have NEVER insulted Yoruba the level Umuzurike have nor Igbokwe even..

Every single "Igbo" who have been insulting, degrading and belittling Igbo as a tribe as of late have all been from drum roll please SE. Not once, emphasis on NOT ONCE have any of your leaders, or historians addressed them but, yet you deem yourselves holier than thou.

I just love the double standard SE Igbos hold. A SE igbo the insult Igbo tribe as a whole, making deregatory comments left and right isn't insulting igbo just because he or she says he or she is igbo but, an Anioma that did not insult Igbo but rather choose to self identify as a non-igbo made the biggest insult to Igbos.
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We see you people HYPOCRISY that's why majority of Aniomas that cared how una felt, do not care anymore, myself included. We don't give a flying Bleep how una feel nor will we do things in your own instructions. If it pains y'all, oh well, make it pain una Wella.

Politics / Re: We Are Not Igbo– Dr Ojieh, National President Izu Anioma. by Ikechunna: 8:51pm On Feb 10, 2020
UdechiHD:
Ikechukwu seems not to be in tune with current happenings in his area. I see a topic of 2006 when men like late Uwechue and Obi of Asaba were still active. The older pan-Igbotic ones are almost nearing their graves and the young Igbophobic elements are growing strong unchallenged. These days you hardly see any real offline Anioma group challenge the narratives of these Ignophobic elements in the zone and these groups are growing emboldened and agile each day, swallowing up followers and pushing their Anioma ethnic nationalism so fierce.

Someone said if a lie is repeated several times it becomes the truth. In years from now many of us picture an overwhelming silence of any Igbophilic trace in Delta north.

Is that right? I didn’t know we have a new Asagba in Asaba. Please know it all SE Igbo, please tell who is the new king of my land that I was not aware of. I’m all ears. Who is the new Asagba that have been igbophobic? Please do let us know.

Hilarious enough, is the lack of ignorance on the topic. Don’t even know the list of “igbophobic elements". Because, if you did, you would have known I posted by different Anioma that addressed each. But do tell us, the list of igbophobic elements that have been coming out oh wise one. Please do tell us that. Considering y'all were accusing Ibe Kachuikwu as one without anything to back it up, I'm not surprised by your rhetorics. Ignorance they say is bliss
Politics / Re: We Are Not Igbo– Dr Ojieh, National President Izu Anioma. by Ikechunna: 8:34pm On Feb 10, 2020
pazienza:


Nwanne, many SEners are not insulting Anioma for no reason.
Many do so because Anioma has created the room for the likes of Ojieh to unleash their madness, since he knows there would be no repercussions.

Since Ojieh made this comment, has the Asagba of Asaba, Obi of Agbor or any other Anioma group come out publicly to deassociate with him and debunk his claims?
The answer is no. So it is not out of place for those of us in SE to interpret this silence as passive support. Ojieh is not just a random individual, he is a head of an Anioma organization, telling Ndiigbo in SE to ignore him, with no widespread condemnation of his shameful act by Anioma royal houses and top people, is insincerity on part of any Anioma person.

It is beginning to look like Anioma want to eat their cake and have it. You want to be Igbo and non Igbo sometimes, because you have figured it offers you a form of political flexibility . You can let the deranged ones like Ojieh claim they are not Igbos and spite Ndiigbo when it's expedient, without your prominent institutions and personalities calling them to order or denouncing them publicly, while the seemingly Igbo Anioma people snoop in and take Igbo share of national cake when it's expedient with those of us in SE not being able to challenge it, so as not to be seen to be dividing the Igbo house.

Reason it well yourself, devoid of emotions. If Ojieh and his likes are able to make vitriolic sweeping comments like this without a media reply by Anioma royal fathers and relevant organizations, then what you or any Anioma person has to say on this, doesn't and shouldn't matter, and Ndiigbo in SE will be stupid to continue receiving this bullshit from that quarter, 50years post civil war.
At a point, enough has to be enough.

Even one Anioma son addressed SE and attempted to educate you all where the Igbo denial attitude of the Agbors started and why their current king is a denier.

There is a need for the Igbos in the East to reach out to their brothers and sisters across the river Niger. This is not to say that we cannot stand on our own. The point here is that there is strength in number-“Igwe-buike”. The Igbos in the East should always seize the initiative because of their strength. They should make it their statutory duty to come to us and embrace us.

They are our fathers and, like most migration theories have confirmed about the origin of most of these communities, we are their children. We may not be business inclined like them because we are not cut out for such but we are educated and are good civil servants. Our word in most cases is always our bond. Our people are sincere to a fault and are prepared to fight with anybody for a just and sincere cause in as much as you don’t cunningly backslide or sabotage the cause. The causes that Major Nzeogwu, Pat Utomi, Col Tim Onwuatuegwu, Dr. Okonjo-Iweala, Col.Nwanwo, Col. Achuzia had fought and still fighting for, is a testimony to our strength and character.

In fact to reinforce this view, I want OHANAEZE to move forthwith, their headquarters to either Asaba, Ibusa, or Ogwashi-Ukwu. I believed that the closer you are to us the better. Let us have a sense of belonging. By this invitation, I am not saying you should now come and colonise us. I am saying that we should relate and that there should be a strong cultural affinity and rapport.

Anybody in the Igbo culture area of Delta state who is in doubt about his or her Igbo historical connection, should contact Prof. Nolue Emenanjo, Executive-Director, National Institute Of Nigerian Languages, Aba, for more explanation and Professor Okoh, UNIBEN. The late intellectually versatile Prof. M. A Onwuejeogwu, another Igbo encyclopedist, who was from Ogboli-Ibusa, and founder of the Nri Museum, should have been another contact but for his death.

The intellectual bloc of OHANAEZE should not shy away from its responsibility. The bloc should pickup the pieces and do more research work in this Igbo culture area of Delta state to establish more historical connectedness and build on such relationships. The Israelis are doing exactly that all over the world. When the State of Israel was created, most Falashas of Ethiopia, were lifted to that state because it was established that they were Jews. The Yoruba is doing the same, tracking their Oduduwa kiths and kin all over Africa and even beyond, as far as to Brazil.

Besides, this is not a question of whether the people of Agbor or Ndokwa are disclaiming their Igbo-ness or have decided or deciding to opt-out, no, it is a question of research, based on solid historical and archaeological evidences. I reckoned that all research should focus on that title of “Obi” which has been handed over to our traditional rulers from generation to generation. “Obi”, as the title designate, is an undiluted Igbo nomenclature. It is not an Hausa, Bini, Yoruba, Ishan or Fulani terminology. Apart from the differences in Igbo dialects, accents or phonetics, and historical variances in origin, the other common variable for research revolves around this term and title of “Obi ”.

Flowing from this, and of secondary relevance, is the Igbo name of their subjects. For Example, the people of Agbor and Ndokwa bear names like Isioma, Ngozi,Nwabuzor, Nduka, Chukwuma, Chukwuekwu, Chukwuka, Ibegbulem, Nwanyimogor, Nwajei, Obika, Ijeoma, Ifeoma, Nwaokolo, Nwoko, Iwebelua, Chiedu, and other names with the prefix-“Umu”. And “Umu” is a complete Igbo terminology which means “Children”. Thus “Umu-dein” means the “ Children of Dein” and there is a street in Agbor with that name- Umudein street.

It is not an issue of sentiments, emotions and unsubstantiated trivialities. Almost all the traditional leaders of Delta Igbo communities that I’d listed in part {1} hold the title of “Obi” and not Oba. And if any of them wants to invoke the anger of the gods by changing to another title, just because the leader does not want any linkage with the Igbos, may the ancestors and IGBOPHOBIA take care of that person.

In about 1979, I travelled from Agbor to Benin-city to spend some days with late Prof. Mike Onwujeogwu, who was then { I think}, either the Dean of Faculty of Social Sciences or the Head of Department of Sociology and Anthropology, University of Benin. One day, he told me to get dressed that we will all be travelling to Enugwu-Ukwu, the wife‘s village. While we were meandering through pot holes and following some short cuts here and there and stopping over here and now for the Prof. to greet his friends and for the wife to greet relatives, we came to a village called { I think} Isu or Isu-Aniocha near Awka. I was already fast asleep in the car.

Then the Prof. woke me up and said. This is Isu, where the founder of Igbouzo anglicised Ibusa, migrated from. He then gave me a thorough lecture of what happened. I was so stunned and flabbergasted. Since then, that indelible sight and lecture, even though he has written a book on it since 1972, has not left my memory.

After the civil war in 1970, my parents decided to migrate to Agbor. The Obi of Agbor then, Obi Ikechukwu, welcomed Igbos like wise was the Obi of Owa. Obi Ikechukwu has a friendly, approachable and welcoming disposition. By 1978, the Obi, just like any other Obi and going by the principles and practice of the patrilineal system, was anxious to have a son – a heir apparent. Fortunately, his Royal Highness had one from one of his wives, who was pregnant for him before he {the obi} died.

It was alleged that the heir’s life was in danger from other jealous wives and sensing that, the Agbor Council-of-Chiefs in consonance with perhaps, the Oba of Benin, decided to smuggle the young “Obi” out of Nigeria to London, where he lived and studied at Lewisham college, imbibed western cultures, MORES and ways of life and came back to assume his throne in about 2002. Since then, the young “Obi” has been behaving like the Duke of Edinburgh.

The Royal Highness should take time to study the history of his community. He should thrive to do away with most of his westernised ways. His subjects are complaining about that. Rumours have it that he wants to, or has changed his title from “Obi” to “Dein”. If unchecked by Agbor elders, then I won’t be surprised if at a later date he changes to Emir of Agbor. Although, I learnt from my source that it is a rumour; however, if is true and it is assented to by his Agbor Council-of-Chiefs, may the council direct all their subjects with Igbo names to drop such names and choose Benin names like Anini or Osunbor. Enough of this hypocrisy! If in this age some educated people are still contesting their culture and cannot make do with profound evidence before them because of a peculiar phobia of their own creation, then such a culture is a dead culture. “A contested culture is a dead culture.”

And this is why I call on OHANAEZE to embark on further research in this “Igbo culture area” of Delta state, establish the historical links, migration trends, patterns of settlement, cultural diffusion, symbolisms, feast and festivals and their resemblances, contacts and acculturation in the whole amalgam and; to try as much as possible, to harmonise researches that have been done already and to stand firmly by the synthesized result. There is a need to focus research on the following movements in their chronological order as culled in the late Professor Onwuejeogwu,s book titled: The traditional Political System Of Ibusa {1972}, namely;

“the Owerri-movement before A.D. 800 ; the Eri-movement about A.D. 800; the Nri-movement about A.D. 900 to 1911; the Isu-movement between the 15th and 16th centuries; the Ubulu-movement around the 17th century; the Aro-movement around the 17th and 19th centuries; the Idu or Bini-movement around the 18th century and the Igala-movement between the 18th and 19th centuries.” These movements, especially the Nri, Isu, Ubulu, Idu, Aro and the Igala movements should be of tremendous interest to OHANAEZE research unit and this is because these movements seemed to be the ones which have had profound impact on the cultures and thought processes of the people of these communities.

The studies and research should be based on technique of participant observation. By this, I mean the researchers have to live with the people they are studying over a long period of time. You don’t stay in the USA and London and lift opinionated articles devoid of any research technique to claim that you are Urhobo or Benin while your name is Emeka Okafor.

I believed strongly that If tomorrow the Jews are to prove that there is a trace of archaeological evidence establishing consanguinity between Igbo and Hebrew and as such, have come to lift the willing Igbos to the State of Israel, as they did to the Falashas of Ethiopia, I guess those people of Ika and Ndokwa and some others, who are still in a state of denial about their Igbo linkage, will automatically turn around to announce that their father’s father’s father’s father’s name is NRIJIOFO, just because they want to migrate to Israel. Funny world! I rest my case!

The problem with SE is you people know nothing about us but rather, chose to tell each other anything about us to justify your prejudice. Several Anioma kings and elders have spoken us against igbo deniers that spoke in the past and made their stanch known. Some have written books on it. It is egregious to expect them to continuously releasing statements to appease una when clearly the ones they’ve released in the past, which should have been more than enough, are unregistered by una. Hilariously enough, you lots do not expect the same for your side. Hypocrites.

Lastly, as I said before, it is not our job to educate you people, that’s on you. In addition, SE does not have to see us as una brethren. That is okay with us but, you people have no right to tell anyone who or what is Igbo. The Igbo term does not belong to una nor are you people the king maker of what is igbo. Y’all can kiss our asses. We will continue to identify ourselves as Igbo as that is the identity of our ancestors even before una come along. Just like you people we are entitled to everything that comes to being igbo from the cultural, language, political affirmation, religious affirmation, historical background, economical growth, whatever the duck it is, we owe it as much as una. NOBODY on EARTH made SE the king pin of what it is Igbo. NOBODY!!!
Politics / Re: We Are Not Igbo– Dr Ojieh, National President Izu Anioma. by Ikechunna: 8:34pm On Feb 10, 2020
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Nwanne, many SEners are not insulting Anioma for no reason.
Many do so because Anioma has created the room for the likes of Ojieh to unleash their madness, since he knows there would be no repercussions.

Since Ojieh made this comment, has the Asagba of Asaba, Obi of Agbor or any other Anioma group come out publicly to deassociate with him and debunk his claims?
The answer is no. So it is not out of place for those of us in SE to interpret this silence as passive support. Ojieh is not just a random individual, he is a head of an Anioma organization, telling Ndiigbo in SE to ignore him, with no widespread condemnation of his shameful act by Anioma royal houses and top people, is insincerity on part of any Anioma person.

It is beginning to look like Anioma want to eat their cake and have it. You want to be Igbo and non Igbo sometimes, because you have figured it offers you a form of political flexibility . You can let the deranged ones like Ojieh claim they are not Igbos and spite Ndiigbo when it's expedient, without your prominent institutions and personalities calling them to order or denouncing them publicly, while the seemingly Igbo Anioma people snoop in and take Igbo share of national cake when it's expedient with those of us in SE not being able to challenge it, so as not to be seen to be dividing the Igbo house.

Reason it well yourself, devoid of emotions. If Ojieh and his likes are able to make vitriolic sweeping comments like this without a media reply by Anioma royal fathers and relevant organizations, then what you or any Anioma person has to say on this, doesn't and shouldn't matter, and Ndiigbo in SE will be stupid to continue receiving this bullshit from that quarter, 50years post civil war.
At a point, enough has to be enough.


If there is any separate and distinct tribal group that has been contributing a lot to the development of Nigeria, it is none other than the Igbos of delta state. I believed that if IBB’s regime had given us our cherished Anioma State, we would have fared better than under the present gang-like hegemony of the Urhobo, Itsekiri, Ezon, Isoko and Ijaw. We never bargained for this present raw deal with IBB. In fact, we were better off under the Benin Kingdom than under the present Urhobo ‘Korokoro’ arrogant domination and hegemonic tendencies.

One of the basic problems with most ethnic and tribal groups in the South is that they do not forgive. We always have this tendency to add new grudges on old grudges which does nothing but create negative multiplier effects. While the North is moving on, even though there are proven cases of wide spread poverty in that region, the South is always antagonising itself.
What has happened to our Southern Governors meeting which was initiated by Tinubu and others? It has faded as quickly as it was started and yet the Northern Governors Forum is still on course. “Ego-massaging” is daily killing the South, and yet we claim superiority in the Education sector. Acquired education, which ought to act as a catalyst to forging closer unity and ties among us, has seemingly become irrelevant in our quest for a united front.

Education is supposed to be power but in the South, because of our ego and pride and this innate tendency to sell out over a pot of pottage, we have deliberately refused to use our education for effect. We are always busy fighting ourselves. Honestly, I think we need to initiate the process of de-schooling ourselves.

On the 27 of August 1991, when IBB’s regime created Delta and Jigawa States among others, there were murmurs when Asaba and Dutse were strangely chosen as state capitals instead of Warri and Hadeija. The people of Warri and Hadeija protested but IBB’s regime stood its ground. Even Delta Igbos were not happy that they were not given Anioma State. IBB had simply thought he’d killed two birds with one stone by merging the two agitations { Delta and Anioma States} into one, but what he created was a hotchpotch and a terrible amalgam. Delta state is literally the ugliest hippopotamus I have ever seen.

One of the dangers in the game of numbers is that the Urhobos never hid their plan to deny Ika Igbos the benefits that go with a State capital. They openly proclaimed it that Delta Igbos will never see the light of development. And since that State was created, they have been behaving true to their primeval proclamation with pure antics. Going purely and cunningly by the caveman’s logic, Asaba, the State capital, is still as it were when it was created in 1991- a complete derelict of a capital. This is sad.

The irony of this act of impunity is that the same people who are fighting for injustice in the Niger Delta are deliberately and consciously denying the Igbo-speaking people justice in Delta State. The ubiquitous James Ibori, as a former governor of the state, was virtually operating from Warri, leaving Asaba in the most despicable state of disrepair. How can you be crying foul against the Federal government and fighting for justice when your stock is virtually denying Igbos in Delta State the same justice?

Yet, in the North, typical of their characteristic homogeneity, the people of Hadeija have since forgotten and forgiven and had made up and moved on, with the people of Dutse. May I please remind the Urhobos that the Igbo culture area of Delta state, as was thoroughly studied by the late Professor Mike Onwuejeogwu, though with some historical variances here and there, comprised {amongst others} the following towns and villages; Asaba, Ibusa, Okpanam, Ugbolu, Anwai, Igbodo, Achalla. Ogwashi-ukwu, Ubulu-ukwu, Ubulu-Okiti, Obior, Issele-Ukwu, Okwe, Agbor, Umunnede, Ekwuoma, Issele-Mkptime, Onicha-Ugbo, Onicha-Olona, Onicha-Ugwu, Illah, Ezi, Ebu, Idumuje-Unor, Idumuje-Ugboko, Akumazi-Umuocha, Kwale, Utagbu-egbe, Utagbu-Unor, Obinomba, Obiarukwu and Owerri-Olubor.

These are towns and villages inhabited by human beings, not cockroaches. They have been dominated, made pauperised and completely alienated by the Urhobos in criminal collaboration with their kiths and kin. None of the aforementioned towns and villages have witnessed any atom of development since that state was created. Every development is channelled to Warri, Sapele, Oghara, and Ughelli – the homes of the Urhobos, Itsekiris, Izons, Isokos and the Ijaws.
What crime have we committed? After all, we never had the slightest premonition of IBB’s intention when that creation was about to be announced. All that everyone knew was that, two states were requested from Bendel, and the likelihood was that it would only get one. Again, most of the Igbo speaking towns never bargained for the capital to be in Asaba.

Even in our quest for Anioma State, it was agreed that the capital must be central to act as a centrifugal pull, and not push, to its inhabitants. In other words the chosen Anioma State capital would have pulled people to it and not push people away from it for lack of space. So, what crime did we commit that is beyond the redemption of the Urhobos?

It beggars belief for some to have argued and still argue that Asaba was chosen because IBB’s wife, Mariam, was from that town. As far as I am concerned, that argument did not and still does not hold water to this very day. Had IBB a wife in Dutse which, against all odds and bets, was the chosen capital of Jigawa instead of the more favourite Hadeija town? If your answer is a definitive no, then throw such insinuations about Asaba into River Sapele for good.

Besides, of social relevance here is the fact that most of the legacy of developments in this area were the ones provided by Col. Ogbemudia during the military regime of General Yakubu Gowon. The roads linking up most of these communities were constructed under his government. The general hospitals and very clean public pipe borne water were provided by him.

Today, all the public taps have dried up. The hospitals are just “mere consulting clinics”. Most of the feeder roads Ogbemudia constructed are still better than the new ones that were done afterwards. A typical example is the old road linking Asaba, Ibusa, Ogwashi-ukwu, Ubulu-ukwu, Obior, Umunnede to the present newly expanded Benin / Onitsha express road, which was constructed after the civil war. That road is still better than the ones other regimes- put together- have constructed in subsequent years in that area.

Ogbemudia’s record held him in good stead that when he contested the governorship election of the then Bendel State under the NPN ticket, against Prof. Ambrose Ali in the1983 election, he swept the polls in that area to the discredit of the UPN. His past record of performance spoke for him. And up to this date, |I still reckoned he is the best. Whatever oil money |Ibori got from the federation account he literally ‘drank’ like water with nothing to show case in these Igbo communities.

I hope Chief Edwin Clark, Chief Daniel Okumagba, and Rtd General Paul Omu, who were both alumni of Saint Thomas Teacher Training College, Ibusa, and others, will re-adjust their definition of injustice. Let them pay a visit to their alma mater and I can assure them that they will develop goose pimples. If they feel that the injustice of the Niger Delta is unmerited, then they should check their glaring injustice against the Igbo people of Delta State. No tribe has the monopoly of violence. The fact that our people have not reacted does not depict cowardice.

Our stoical silence is philosophical and historical. Philosophical because we are a mature people. And, historical because of the seemingly heroic act of our two sons, Major Chukwuma Nzeogwu {from Okpanam} and Captain Tim Onwuatuegwu { from Illah} in the 15 January 1966 coup to which our people are still being held some time in opprobrium.

The area still has people of calibre, namely: Prof. Pat Utomi, Prof. Nwawolo, Prof. Okonjo, Dr. Okonjo Iweala, Prof. Fidelis Odita { QC and SAN },Col. Nwawo, Col. Okwechime, Col. Achuzia, Prof. Okoh, Prof.Emenanjo, Prof. Onwuachi, Prof. Elueze, Prof. Edozie, Prof. Emmanuel Nwanze, Mike Ovie {MD, Zenith Bank}, Sabastin Adigwe {MD, Afrique Bank}, Atuche Francis { MD, Bank PHB}, Tony Elumelu {MD, UBA} and an up and coming sharp chap called Mr. Rowland Nwanze.
With what I saw in these areas when I went home in October 2007, I just hope that one day, a push will not become a shove. I also pray that one day, these oppressors will be given their so called “genuine Delta State“, believe it or not, it would be good riddance to bad rubbish. Go, soak yourself in your crude oil but the present fact remains, that whenever you point one of your accusing fingers to the Federal government for the neglect of the Niger-Delta, you forget that the other four fingers are pointed towards you.

If these people, shouting injustice, would be honourable and sincere enough to themselves, let them show their humanity by embarking on a fact-finding mission of the Igbo culture area of the state. They will be ashamed and shocked of what they will discover. It is poverty, misery and neglect of a people callously being executed by “educated” Urhobos as pre-planned, since 1991. Most developments in these communities are simply being executed through self-efforts.

To most Urhobos and their kindred-spirit, it is better for the North to seep the crude oil than for their closest neighbours to enjoy it. It is this same surreptitious and slippery attitude that they exhibited during the Biafran war, supporting General Gowon to keep Nigeria one and to annihilate us.

Today, it is a fact which has come to dawn on all of us that the chickens have come home to roost. Whether we believe it or not, the three regions in the South have been humiliated in one way or the other by the same North in systematic fashion. First, it was the Igbos during the civil war. Second, was the Yorubas in the light of the arrogant and criminal annulment of the June 12, 1993 election; and finally, the Niger-Deltans who are now feeling the heat from the same North.
The final onslaught against the whole South by the North is now on cause; and that is, to make sure that they bring the Southerners to their knees until they learn to wink no more. Their mission statement of the early1960s as proclaimed by their leaders, of throwing the “Koran into the Atlantic ocean,” is about to be accomplished. The interpretation of that aphorism for those who care to know is simple. It means partly, the conquest of the South.

And I can assure all Southerners that the North will succeed if we continue with this our braggadocio, endless divisive bickering, chronic unforgiven spirit, stereotypical and antagonistic attitude and blame game. May I use this opportunity to call on the South to rally round Alhaji Asari Dukobo and to also take cues from Bode Eluyera’s analysis of our luggardist Nigeria. Besides, I just hope the Urhobos will change for good and use their numbers for the positive and even development of the state. What is good for the geese is also good for the ganders. “Injustice anywhere is injustice everywhere”.

It is unfortunate that our crisis of identity extends to our own Igbo brothers and sisters across the Niger who are supposed to know better. Unfortunately, they regard themselves, as “the proper Igbos” while the Delta Igbos or Ika Igbos or Western Igbos are often lumped and regarded derogatorily as “Hausa-Igbos”. This is despite the solid research and studies to the contrary by the late Prof. M. A. Onwuejeogwu. His studies, and here I refer to Nri Museum, show that there is no nomenclature like “Hausa Igbo” or “proper Igbo”. Igbo is Igbo! Period.


These “proper Igbos” exhibited this same ambivalent and marginal behaviour towards our Biafran officers of Delta Igbo extraction during the civil war. The “proper Igbos” should get it into their heads that there is strength in numbers and that we feel unperturbed about their historical ignorance about us, because all Delta Igbo communities know their origins and history. I rest my case!



[quote] It was a happy moment for the Igbo at Owerri yesterday when the governor of Anambra State, Peter Obi and his predecessor, Dr. Chris Ngige embraced and chatted with each other explaining his role in the political conflict between them.

But both used the event for reconciliation, with laughter all over.

But from the tumultuous gathering at the Annual Ahiajioku lecture held at Owerri yesterday came a thunderous verdict unity among the Igbo.

The lecture delivered by the novelist Chinua Achebe who arrived the venue with his wife, Christie and three children: Ike, Chidi and Nwando, was chaired by the Asagba of Asaba, Prof. Chike Edozien.

There were also the governor of Imo State, Chief Ikedi Ohakim, and Anambra governor, Mr. Peter Obi as well as Abia, Delta, Ebonyi, Rivers, Enugu who were represented.

There were delegations also from the Obong of Calabar and Jaja of Opobo, several traditional rulers including the Obi of Ogwashi uku, Prof. Chukuka Okonjo, Ikelionwu of Ndikelionwu, Prof. Chukwumemeka Ike, among others.

However, Achebe in his lecture entitled Igbo, Intellectualism and Development praised the lecture rebranded by the state government to be the framework for development and not just for intellectual sake, the series would help redirect the miseducated Igbo caused by colonialists.

Using samples from his novel, Things fall apart as illustration, Achebe said the Igbo share a lot of brotherhood and yet have their differences.

Saying the worldwide celebration of the novel is not about him but the story, which is Igbo story.
But h used the little difference in the name, Ahiajioku and Ifejioku which means the same thing: celebration of the yam god in Igboland to share the little differences tat exist in the dialects of the Igbo, saying the Igbo should not allow the little differences among them cause their disunity.

The Igbo, he told the audience made of ministers, senators, the academia, the clergy, Achebe blamed the problem in the use and study of Igbo language on a white missionary who he said could nit grasp the differences that exist in the Igbo dialect. He did not know the Igbo speak in their various dialects: Igbo na au na olu na olu, he said. Dialects are a tiny thing that should not divide the Igbo. Igbo unity is paramount, he maintained.

It is therefore a thing of madness for anyone to call anyone whose dialects sounds different from the other as non-Igbo, adding that even in the markets, the people speak in their dialects.

It is therefore sacrilege for anyone to tell a teach that its is wrong to speak in his mother tongue. Nobody, he said, has the right to stop any child from speaking his mother tongue.

Achebe also spoke out for women integration in Igboland. He used the exile chapter of Okonkow in Igboland illustrate this, said that mother is supreme.

Igbo people have developmental ideas and knowledge as can be found in their creation stories, he pointed out.

However, the Asagba of Asaba, Prof. Edozien saying all Igbo are one, itemised seven agendas which he said are essential for Igbo unity which he said for two years, Ohanaeze ndigbo could not achieve.

He harped on the need for creation of two more state for Igbo people out of the present Delta and Rivers State to give equal states to three regions, under one region,

He also asked that state governors in the seven state Igbo dominate should empower Ohanaeze financially and the eze ndigbo proliferation across the country and beyond should be stopped.

Th e Asagba asked that the Igbo should rater elect one king as Eze Igbo through the traditional rulers and tat the ruler should rule till death as is the case with the papacy.

Ohakim in his contribution also spoke on Igbo unity as did Prof. Pat Utomi who introduced Achebe. Utomi had located the problem with the Igbo in lack of humility and reverence for vanity.

But Ohaikm asked Ohanaeze not to allow division among it, nor allow internal contradictions thwart its efforts.

He also blamed Nigerians under development on injustice and ethnicity.
Things, he went on, do go wrong in societies but such are moments to work and repair and not to apportion blames, saying that Achebe’s message is essentially all hope is not lost.
Politics / Re: We Are Not Igbo– Dr Ojieh, National President Izu Anioma. by Ikechunna: 8:33pm On Feb 10, 2020
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Nwanne, many SEners are not insulting Anioma for no reason.
Many do so because Anioma has created the room for the likes of Ojieh to unleash their madness, since he knows there would be no repercussions.

Since Ojieh made this comment, has the Asagba of Asaba, Obi of Agbor or any other Anioma group come out publicly to deassociate with him and debunk his claims?
The answer is no. So it is not out of place for those of us in SE to interpret this silence as passive support. Ojieh is not just a random individual, he is a head of an Anioma organization, telling Ndiigbo in SE to ignore him, with no widespread condemnation of his shameful act by Anioma royal houses and top people, is insincerity on part of any Anioma person.

It is beginning to look like Anioma want to eat their cake and have it. You want to be Igbo and non Igbo sometimes, because you have figured it offers you a form of political flexibility . You can let the deranged ones like Ojieh claim they are not Igbos and spite Ndiigbo when it's expedient, without your prominent institutions and personalities calling them to order or denouncing them publicly, while the seemingly Igbo Anioma people snoop in and take Igbo share of national cake when it's expedient with those of us in SE not being able to challenge it, so as not to be seen to be dividing the Igbo house.

Reason it well yourself, devoid of emotions. If Ojieh and his likes are able to make vitriolic sweeping comments like this without a media reply by Anioma royal fathers and relevant organizations, then what you or any Anioma person has to say on this, doesn't and shouldn't matter, and Ndiigbo in SE will be stupid to continue receiving this bullshit from that quarter, 50years post civil war.
At a point, enough has to be enough.



In an article written by one Mr.Chris Okafor, on ARTICLES BASE, the fellow wanted to correct what he likened to a misconception by Late Amb. Ralph Uwechue the ex president-general of Ohanaeze Ndigbo, the Ibo social cultural organization.

It seems Mr. Okafor wasnt aware of the fact that the later, Amb. Uechue is also from Ogwashu ukwu. But that's by the way. What I found totally strange was how a man who set out to correct what he termed a misconception eneded up dishing out more misconceptions. First, here is a quote from Mr. Okafor in his effort to correct the misconception by Uwechue: "Anioma people just like every other tribe, villages, towns or ethnic groups in Nigeria today cannot be said to come from one particular area. This is not what is at stake. What is at stake is that we, the ANIOMAS are over due for the immediate creation of our own State." My question to Mr. Okafor is how Anioma became a tribe...in what way and by whom?

It is very unfortunate that people who do not even know what Anioma stood for are usually the ones making futile efforts to make it an ethnic group. I am personally aware that Anioma is simply a coinage given to the constituent Local Governments in Delta north senatorial district in anticipation to make it a state. Anyone who isn't aware of the reasons Anioma was formed should go and read more before coming to the internet to write wishful stories.

The fact that one misinformed Proffessor Kunirum wrote that ANIOMA is now an ethnic group does not make Anioma an ethnic group, it rather makes Proffessor Kunirum a misinformed fellow. The Nigerian system had confused us all from knowing the line between literacy and intelligence and so many of us often mistook literacy for intelligence. Having read Dr Kunirum's book where he wanted for reasons best known to him to make Anioma a separate ethnic group away from the larger Ibo attachment makes me conclude that he and his likes are very literate, not intelligent. The fact that Dr Kunirum while running away while no one is chasing after him is enough to ask questions: why the run?

Furthermore, if Kunirum and his fellow confused likes form an Anioma ethnic nationality, what will be the language, I mean mother tongue of this 'new' tribe? If they chose Ibo as the mother tongue of the new ethnic nationality, wouldn't that make them silly?

True it was that there are non Ibo elements present in Anioma, but these where refugees that we, the indegenes assimilated linguistically and culturally. Do we now need to change the name of our village because two or three visitors are not comfortable bearing the name? Mr. Okafor suggested that the Ikelike people of Ogwashi were the first settlers in Ogwashiukwu, how? And how do you mean that the 'uku' in Ogwqashiuku means great in Bini? So what does the same mean in Ibo?

In as much as some of us are willing to keep deluding themselves and others without any tangible reason, it is a thing of shame that these people don't ask questions. How come the almighty Bini as you usually portray could not hold on to their languages once they are a mile away from Bini? And do you not imagine how a strong conquering people will loose their language and culture to the conquered people? What are the reasons that most of the settlements founded by these Bini wanders usually had the Umu prefix? How did a powerful Bini prince suddenly threw away his proud Oba title and picked up Obi while he and those with him are all Bini?

Lets take the history of Umunede for instance which goes thus:
Umunede Kingdom was founded by a Benin Prince, called EDE and his wife, IYE who migrated from Benin and settled in the present location, later known as Umunede. The exact date of migration of Ede and his wife from Benin was not recorded but generally, historians put the approximate period as the Thirteenth Century A.D., during the reign of Oba Ewedo The Great (1250-1280 A.D.) Thus, the Kingdom is over seven hundred years old and many historians believed that Umunede Kingdom is one of the oldest kingdoms east of the Benin Empire.



Historians had contended that during Oba Ewedos reign, the Oba had two battles to fight: a diplomatic battle against the great nobility led by the Ediommehan and military battles against Ogiamien III in order to destroy once and for all this anti-royalist movement. As a result of these events, many princes and noble men fled with their families to different safe locations.



The second wave of migration to Umunede probably took place under Oba Ewuare The Great (1440-1485). During his reign, an attempt to eliminate members of the nobility who were threatening the monarchy gathered momentum and brought about another wave of migration out of the Benin Empire.



Historians also believe that there were other settlers before and after Ede and Iye arrived at the present location but no one was sure when those earlier settlers arrived at this same location. However, later migrations to Umunede were well documented. For example, there were other immigrants from Ishan, Benin-speaking areas and Yoruba areas of the west between the 16th and 19th centuries and their quarters are well known in Umunede. Also, there have been large number of immigrants from the Eastern Igbo-speaking area since the last quarter of the 19th century and, since the civil war; Umunede has also been witnessing a large number of immigrants from neighbouring towns and villages.



All historical accounts showed that Ede and his followers did meet a collection of people in the present location, later called Umunede. Those who were already in that location were probably not as strong and organized as Ede and his followers. Therefore, Ede was able to impose his rule and leadership upon the earlier settlers. In fact, it has never been contested that Ede brought to Umunede the type of administrative and social structures, which were already in place in the Benin Empire. Firstly, the monarchical administration, which Ede and his followers brought from Benin, was established in Umunede and hence up to today, Umunede still has traditional and hereditary kingship. Secondly, the mode and type of worship and traditional festivals correspond to the practices in the Benin kingdom. Thirdly, the mode of building houses in ancient Umunede was also that of Benin tradition.



Every available document showed that Ede and Iye had four sons in the following order of seniority: Ilege, Edware, Oba and Ile. Those four sons and their descendants constituted the original four main villages of Umunede. Available information also showed that it took some time before the kingship, as we know it today was fully established. When it was fully established, it took and Igbo title, Obi instead of Ovie or Onogie, which are the titles kings that descended directly from Benin. But, why Obi? Probably, the main reason was that in the course of centuries of living together and inter-ethnic marriages, each of the various groups living in that location started to lose its original ethnic identity, thus giving way to develop on Unumede language and culture- the language being very close to those of Ibos West of the Niger, while Unumede culture was predominantly that of Binis until the first assume that language of the dominant tribe in Umunede. History did not record and alternative title to Obi.

What is the common sense in arguing or trying to say that a man a fugitive precisely who came with his wife and four children and met a 'group' of people now becomes the founder of the village together with the people, not persons he met on ground? Could it not be better put that Ede was a Bini sent to rule the colony with the authority of the Oba who was later assimilated into the population? If that was the case, how then did the people turn around to start answering Umu Ede which translates thus as children of Ede?And how did the Bini warrior quickly took up Obi as a title instead of Oba? Common sense says that it is a more powerful and conquering culture that overshadows the weaker ones. Here, people are telling us that it was the other way round: weaker cultures dominating the stronger ones.

Then that gives us another angle that people east of the Niger also bears Ede. We should consider.
Umu Ede means children of Ede corrupted to Umunede. What was the name of the Town before Ede, his four children and wife showed up?

The story continued: "Every available document showed that Ede and Iye had four sons in the following order of seniority: Ilege, Edware, Oba and Ile. Those four sons and their descendants constituted the original four main villages of Umunede. Available information also showed that it took some time before the kingship, as we know it today was fully established. When it was fully established, it took and Igbo title, Obi instead of Ovie or Onogie, which are the titles kings that descended directly from Benin. But, why Obi?" Yes, Why Obi? Although the writer continued with a "probably" that was not well researched and therefore didn't make any sense. They wrote: "Probably, the main reason was that in the course of centuries of living together and inter-ethnic marriages, each of the various groups living in that location started to lose its original ethnic identity, thus giving way to develop on Unumede language and culture- the language being very close to those of Ibo West of the Niger, while Unumede culture was predominantly that of Binis until the first assume that language of the dominant tribe in Umunede. History did not record and alternative title to Obi." Did Ede and his children live for centuries as to change from Ovie to Obi when in the first place, they never had an Oba title?
We should learn how not to interpret mythology as history.

There was an article I read by Emeka Esobgue where the Oba of Bini was boldly claiming that Igbanke people are Edo (Idu) and not Ika. Why wouldnt he say so with pride when the people themselves choose to embrace mythology instead of conducting a research on themselves? Even Emeka Esogbue that tried to wave off Oba's assertions equally ended up along the same line of lazy history by also claiming that the Ika are from Bini. If they are from Bini, then why confront the Oba for trying to reclaim his children? The only sensible way to counter such claim is simply by writing a history based on investigations, not by rewriting a well known myth.

There is no way anyone can seperate us Anioma and Ika from the rest of Ibo.
If we are not Ibos, then no one is...for what is Ibo and who is one?


....to be continued

REVELATION/INFORMATION from both HRM Dr. E.O. Efeizomor II OON; JP, the Obi Of OWA in Ika North LGA, who is also the incumbent Chairman, Anioma Traditional Rulers Council and HRM Prof. J.C. Edozien CFR; JP,the Azagba Of Asaba/Ahaba both in Anioma, Delta State

I believe that as perfect custodians of our Anioma culture and traditions, our Royal Fathers are in an advantage and better position to educate us more on our Igbo identity, rather than the Osia's among us whose interests are PERSONAL.

Uninformed, unsuspecting and gullible Anioma sons and daughters, especially those in diaspora have been bamboozled by Dr. Kunirum Osia's "Trojan Horse" article on "Who We (Anioma people) Are" . This article which is found in Anioma.org website by Dr. Osia (who has abandoned and severed his relationship with the Anioma Association USA and every Anioma individual, after ending the tenure of office as the Founding Nat'l President, Anioma USA). Osia's poisonous and caustic academic exercise write-up has remained a sour source of reference by some Aniomans in diaspora who believe that whatever our great scholar Kunirum Osia, a PhD holder in Political Science dishes out must be "swallowed"

I Remain a Proud Igboman


Anam/OO
President,CISA

Two highly placed traditional Rulers inDelta State, the Asagba of Asaba, Professor J.C. Edozien CFR; JP., and the Obi of Owa in Ika North Local Government, Dr. E.O. Efeizomor II OON; JP., have stressed the need for Ndigbo, no matter the geopolitical location in which they are based, to be united in the quest for Ndi-Igbo to again become relevant in Nigeria in particular and the world in general.



Professor Edozien made the remarks when he granted audience to a delegation of IWA, ASA World, CISA and EIC.



The traditional Ruler, a former academician, who received the delegation with a retinue of his fully attired members of cabinet, said that although Asaba people were located in the south south geopolitical zone, “most of my subjects hail from Nteje in Oyi Local Government of Anambra State”.


Professor Edozien noted that "nothing could be achieved by Ndigbo unless unity prevailed among members of the ethnic group irrespective of the geopolitical zone in which they are based”.


He appealed to IWA to work assiduously to resolve the crisis in World Igbo Congress, WIC, and, thereafter "IWA, WIC, ASA World, CISA, EIC and other Ndi-Igbo associations in the diaspora should pool their resources together to uplift the welfare of Ndi-Igbo”.



The Asagba expressed delight over the efforts of IWA, ASA World, CISA and EIC to project, through the museum on Igbo Village to be opened on September 17, 2010 in Stanton , Virginia in the United States of America , the contributions of Ndi-Igbo to one of the major civilizations in modern history.


On his own part, the Obi of Owa in Ika North Local Government of Delta State, Dr. E.O. Efeizomor II OON; J.P., said that research had traced the origin of Ika people to the Nris of Anambra State.


Dr. Efeizomor II who has been on the throne for fifty years, said that what was significant about the research was that it was conducted by Ika intellectuals.




The traditional Ruler said that although the “Ikas were making spirited efforts to identify and relate with Ndi-Igbos in the South East geopolitical zone, the efforts were not being reciprocated, hence a few Ikas have reservations over their affinity with Ndi-Igbo”.



The Obi of Owa presented to members of the IWA delegation a book to buttress his assertion that Ikas were, according to him, “proud Ndi-Igbo of Nri ancestry”.


Dr. Efeizomor II said that the entire Ika traditional institution was happy to participate in the Igbo Day that was held in Owerri on September 29, 2009 adding that “Ika people look forward to joining our brothers and sisters in taking part in more Ndi-Igbo activities in future”.
Politics / Re: We Are Not Igbo– Dr Ojieh, National President Izu Anioma. by Ikechunna: 8:31pm On Feb 10, 2020
pazienza:


Nwanne, many SEners are not insulting Anioma for no reason.
Many do so because Anioma has created the room for the likes of Ojieh to unleash their madness, since he knows there would be no repercussions.

Since Ojieh made this comment, has the Asagba of Asaba, Obi of Agbor or any other Anioma group come out publicly to deassociate with him and debunk his claims?
The answer is no. So it is not out of place for those of us in SE to interpret this silence as passive support. Ojieh is not just a random individual, he is a head of an Anioma organization, telling Ndiigbo in SE to ignore him, with no widespread condemnation of his shameful act by Anioma royal houses and top people, is insincerity on part of any Anioma person.

It is beginning to look like Anioma want to eat their cake and have it. You want to be Igbo and non Igbo sometimes, because you have figured it offers you a form of political flexibility . You can let the deranged ones like Ojieh claim they are not Igbos and spite Ndiigbo when it's expedient, without your prominent institutions and personalities calling them to order or denouncing them publicly, while the seemingly Igbo Anioma people snoop in and take Igbo share of national cake when it's expedient with those of us in SE not being able to challenge it, so as not to be seen to be dividing the Igbo house.

Reason it well yourself, devoid of emotions. If Ojieh and his likes are able to make vitriolic sweeping comments like this without a media reply by Anioma royal fathers and relevant organizations, then what you or any Anioma person has to say on this, doesn't and shouldn't matter, and Ndiigbo in SE will be stupid to continue receiving this bullshit from that quarter, 50years post civil war.
At a point, enough has to be enough.

The only reason I’m replying you is because of the mad respect I have for you. The rest of the idiots can suck a dick but, for you, I respect.

One clearly, you know nothing about Anioma. Mr.Ojieh is not a prominent leader of Anioma nor is the group he controls that of the Anioma. Izu Anioma lost their relevance when the betrayals started leading the group. Just because he classifies the group he leads as prominent does not mean it is. Our group is Anioma Congress, not Izu Anioma. Secondly, if you read the article you would known majority of the members of Izu Anioma members he spoke of are people that literally joined the Nigerian military to slaughter Aniomas during the civil war yet, you think these are the people who speak for us or held in high regard in Aniomaland? Also, even he mentioned the struggles he is getting to gain the support of prominent leaders of Anioma. Did it ever cross you to wonder why? Did it?

Lastly, what you asked that Asagba and other elders to do, they’ve done it before on more than one occasions.

The chairman of the lecture, Obi Edozien, re-emphasised this point: “we Igbo people are one. We must stop fighting over irrelevancies and emphasise the essential.”

This point arose out of the tendency among Igbo people to regard some groups as not “real” Igbos on basis of dialectal differences. It also exists in the form of clearly Igbo-speaking people with Igbo names and cultural patterns declaring themselves as “not Igbo” but ethnic minorities.

This is very rampant among Igbo groups in the South-South zone who believe that by so self-declaring publicly, they would be more acceptable among the real minorities and allowed to take their places as ethnic minorities.

Experience has, however, shown that this self-delusion hardly ever produces their desired results. Whenever the push comes to the shove, the real minorities remind them that they are Igbo people who are out to take what belongs to the minorities through the back door.

This phenomenon was evident in 2006 when former Governor Peter Odili of Rivers State (who loved to call himself a “Rivers man,” as if Rivers State is a tribe) was running for president. Ijaw leader, Chief Edwin Clark openly declared Odili an Igbo man, arguing that the South-South president that the minorities have been agitating for was not meant to go to “an Igbo man.”

Given this situation, there has been an increasing shift of paradigm. Many Igbo groups, especially in Delta State, have decided no longer to play the masquerade. The Obi of Asaba, Professor Edozien, actually laid out conditions he believes will cement Igbo unity permanently.

Obi Edozien then called on the people of the South-East zone to support the creation of Anioma State and another for Igbo-speaking people of Rivers State to make for seven states, all of which will be lumped together in one zone or region.

"Ofili is not making an accurate statement although he is entitled to his views even when he is wrong. It is ridiculous for people who speak Igbo and who properly know their ancestral home to say they do not know their origin again or for another person to begin to give inaccurate facts," he told Saturday Independent in an interview.

"We have people in Anioma and theyform one-third of the population and that has also reflected on the number of local government areas it commands. The entire Delta may not trace their origin to the East (Igbo) it is not contestable but the people of Anioma traced their origin from the East and there is nothing bad in joining Ohanaeze Ndigbo."

Uwechue said belonging to the Ohanaeze Ndigbo would promote unity among the people, rather than focus on divisive tendencies that will not do anyone any good.

"If we do not belong to the stock they will not have given us the president-general. It is because they know. Even the present president of Aka-Ikenga, the intellectual think-tank of Ndigbo, is from Delta and all this promotes unity and a sense of belonging. I am from Ogwashi-Uku and we know our origin. That we have Ijaw people in Delta State does not mean they do not know that they belong to Bayelsa State. Ohanaeze Ndigbo is the grand umbrella for all Igbo stock, for all that have the Igbo origin including those in the Diaspora, so our inclusion is not out of place.

"What the world needs now is unity and any umbrella that will ensure that it is promoted must be encouraged. But I know that there is a deliberate effort in some quarters to tear Ndigbo apart for fear of their solid demography, which is a political force that some are not comfortable with."

Uwechue said that identifying with your source does not make you an enemy of other people.

He added: "People like Dennis Osadebe clearly identified where we belong. And we know it, so it is not for anybody to come and re-write history. The issue is not subject to unnecessary debate because we are well informed to knowwhere we are coming from. Nobody is seeking for any relevance with the organisation because without (it) one is already relevant."
Politics / Re: We Are Not Igbo– Dr Ojieh, National President Izu Anioma. by Ikechunna: 7:45pm On Feb 10, 2020
Chinablack:
former western Igbos, Midwestern Igbos, Bendel Igbos and now delta Igbos are no longer Igbos just because one victim of identity crisis say so

Do you mind them. Do you even mind them. What they want is for Anioma to scream to the top of our lungs against any igbo denier just to appease whatever inferiority complex they have. I’m done with the nonsense.

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Politics / Re: We Are Not Igbo– Dr Ojieh, National President Izu Anioma. by Ikechunna: 1:45pm On Feb 08, 2020
maestroferddi:
Your attempts at trying to deflect from the issue at hand is looking infantile.

You think we are not in the know? Think again!

The Igbos will no longer condone what looks like an institutionalized ploy by some of your people to sabotage Igbo interests.

The Yorubas have kin in Okunland in Kogi State and folks in Kwara...You don't see them allowing themselves to be willing tools.

Instead of venting your frustrations on the wrong people, you can rise up today and accentuate your Igboness.

Don't be an 'audio' Igbo when some of your people are doing all they can to denigrate Igboness.

Stop making it look like you are doing anybody a favour by identifying as an Igbo.

This nationality is standing on a sound footing.

Even our detractors can only wish...

Why am I not shocked with the reply. Deflection. Typical. I actually don't know why some SE Igbos and Yoruba do not get along, some of una act exactly like them.. Fabricate shit and go on tangibles when asked to back it up. How does this reply answer my question? Anyway, I don't even care. While you are adding Ibe to the Igbo deniers list include Asagba, NOI, Jay Jay Okocha, Utomi, and every Anioma you want to the list. Fabricate more narrative to support your complex.
Politics / Re: We Are Not Igbo– Dr Ojieh, National President Izu Anioma. by Ikechunna: 1:40pm On Feb 08, 2020
maestroferddi:
You achieve nothing with this...

Joe Igbokwe is a pariah in Igboland.That is even obvious to the blind.

No serious-minded Igboman would waste a droplet of saliva discussing a turncoat whose concern is all about talking his way to the next meal.

There was a groundswell of condemnation and disavowal from almost all Igbos against Joe Igbokwe when he made the referenced remark...

Can we say the same with the sundry misdeeds of some of your Anioma brothers?


Really? Post the articles from SE leaders that opposed Joe Yorubakwe when he made that narrative. When Ralph Uwazuruike, Okorocha, Ngige, Kalu repeatedly insulted and belittled Igbo as a whole to appease APC, repost the narratives of SE Igbos leaders opposing them. Ralph Uwazuruike insulted Igbos in a way no Anioma including deniers have done, please do us a favor and repost the reaction of SE when he did such.

The funny thing is you think the rest of us haven't been keeping up with you lots hypocrisy. Go and decieve another person with your lies.

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Politics / Re: We Are Not Igbo– Dr Ojieh, National President Izu Anioma. by Ikechunna: 1:31pm On Feb 08, 2020
Ojiofor:


He will lie to everyone that it's only people from Ika axis that indulge in Igbo denier as if Luaretta Onochie, Emeka Esogbue and Ibe Kachiukwu are from Ika. Ikechunna is a lost soul.
Ask yourself why is he the only one from that chameleon region on this thread insulting people like a demented dog?

Emeka Esogbue became an Igbo denier because of SE. He has even mentioned on more than one occasion that he turned from pro-Igbo to not seeing Anioma as Igbo due to his experiences of being denied as Igbo by SE Igbos thus, did not feel he needs to validate himself anymore for you bastards. Lauerta Onochie is from an APC stooge and have insulted Igbos the exact same way SE Igbos leaders have in APC have insulted Igbos. I'm guessing Joe Igbokwe, Okorocha, Kalu, etc are all Anioma right? Lastly, when have Kachuikwu insulted or belittled Igbo? When?

Secondly, how will your savage infested blood know wtf happening on this forum. I guess you missed the several times Aniomas that used to be on this forum repeatedly fought to get savages like yourself to see our identity. Then again, I'm not shocked your idiotic self actually reported I've not spoken against Igbo deniers on this forum nor spoken against Laureta onochie comments, therefore, it displayed you knew absolutely nothing except the shit you pull out of your asses. I suggest go and reread several arguments you lots have had on this forum insulting and belittling Aniomas. Majority of Aniomas left you pigs on this forum because they are tired of arguing and dealing with SE idiots like you. Similar to them, I'm equally tired but, I promised myself I'll give you pigs a taste of your medicine before I go. Cry me a fucking river for finally getting that medicine you bastards have been dishing for years.

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Politics / Re: We Are Not Igbo– Dr Ojieh, National President Izu Anioma. by Ikechunna: 1:17pm On Feb 08, 2020
maestroferddi:
I suppose you were living under a rock when Kachikwu flatly denied being Igbo?

Take time to assimilate...There is more to it than cussing and shouting....

When have Kachuikwu denied Igbo? Excluding what Tolu Ogunlesi claimed he made comment of living in Lagos all his life thus, sees himself as more Lagosians than Igbo, a statement no major news article reported excluding blogs, which your inferiority ridden ass that it is nothing but a heresay, where have Kachuikwu denied Igbo? Hmmm I'm curious if your ass said the same thing in regards to SE leaders that made similar comments which was actually ran by a major news website and not blogs. I wonder. As I said, get yourself a psychologist and work on your complex..
Politics / Re: We Are Not Igbo– Dr Ojieh, National President Izu Anioma. by Ikechunna: 1:08pm On Feb 08, 2020
MelesZenawi:


Blame those fighting an imaginary battle not us that will gladly refer to you guys as Anioma as Republicans that we are.
When I actually start giving a rat ass of the Yoruba thinks about Igbo identity of Anioma maybe then I will actually start giving a care about your thought. Currently, I see you people in the level of savages. I see you lots as the missing link Biologist have been looking for to justify their theory of evolution thus, I can careless about your thought. Evolve to human level, maybe then I'll care.

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Politics / Re: We Are Not Igbo– Dr Ojieh, National President Izu Anioma. by Ikechunna: 1:03pm On Feb 08, 2020
maestroferddi:
Nobody is falling for anything.

You Anioma folks have yourselves to blame for providing the ammunition with which the traducers and enemies of the Igbos are attempting to undermine and disparage the Igbos.

When people like Ibe Kachikwu was trying senselessly to ingratiate himself to his Oga at Bourdlllon by pooh-poohing his Igboness, how Anioma people/leaders rose up to correct him?

Dude, we are all inform and are privy to the cacophony of discordant voices coming out of your land....Try to deal with that and leave the little matter of simple-minded element running amok here...

We are mature enough here to read between the lines.

Funny how the inferiority complex fool isn't even aware which leader made that narrative.

Anything to appease his profound opinion. So since, you couldn't find the next Ika article to add more fuel to your complex, you're joining the Yoruba bastard to push apprehensive comment of Joe Yorubakwe on Ibe Kachuikwu. Didn't I report you will join him in his show of stupidity. Not actually shocked at all.

Politics / Re: We Are Not Igbo– Dr Ojieh, National President Izu Anioma. by Ikechunna: 12:57pm On Feb 08, 2020
maestroferddi:
I don't even know where I will start in educating you.

You are just blowing hot air without devoting even one-tenth of the time you are expending in making impetuos comments and throwing up tantrums to critical thinking...

Buhari believed he was rewarding an Igboman in appoint Ibe Kachukwu as the Minister of State for Petroleum in 2015...

Neither Kachikwu nor other Igbo deniers put up a public disclaimer denying Igboness then...

In the eyes of most non-Igbo Nigerians, an Igboman was appointed to a sensitive position in government...

Okowa's emergence as the Governor of Delta State was forged on the anvil of allowing power rotate Delta Igbos...that, at least, is how other Deltans saw it...

We can go on and on on how Anioma elements go about operating as Igbos of convenience....

You can sulk all you want but the issue is that someone needs to call you guys out..

Granted there might be pro-Igbo sympathasizers among you but their impact is on the scale of negligible/feeble to that of nonexistence...

BTW, I find your aspersions on the Igbos puerile and plain simplistic..

And why the Bleep will Kachuikwu make a report about not being Igbo when he does not oppose the Igbo identity nor an Igbo denier? As usual, in your delusional head, the second he was appointed he should have reported his Igbo identity just to appease your inferiority complex. It is NOBODY’s Job to make you feel secure. That’s is your job. An Advice: get a psychologist to deal with that.

Secondly, what makes you think Okowa became governor to appease Igbo? What political relevant do you think SE Igbos have in Delta state? What level of delusion are you? First, Okowa was provided the governorship in effort to reduce to argument and fight for an Anioma state which was growing stronger by the day and several leaders justification for it was that an Anioma have not led Delta state. It had absolutely nothing to do with igbo identity. But, I’m not surprised in your level of delusion. Whatever makes you feel secure with your tiny complex.

Oh and you can call out till una face turn blue. After you and the likes of you is done wailing, head to river Niger and cry us a river. It’s not our job to appease your inferiority complex. Not any pro-igbo Anioma’s job. Cry a river.

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Politics / Re: We Are Not Igbo– Dr Ojieh, National President Izu Anioma. by Ikechunna: 12:44pm On Feb 08, 2020
MelesZenawi:


Trash. Infact anything Igbo ends at River Niger and anything after it are just bini people.

Nonsense.

When a human talks, it makes sense. For Animals on the other hand? What is this Afonja savage screeching about? Funny the idiots that barely know anything past their SW villages attempt to speak. Go focus on your Oshogbo village.

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Politics / Re: We Are Not Igbo– Dr Ojieh, National President Izu Anioma. by Ikechunna: 12:39pm On Feb 08, 2020
MelesZenawi:



Case closed.
Igbos on political gains...that's all.

There are many instances and this is 2020 to continue reminding people to be this be this or be that.

You don't force people to be who they doesn't want to be. Ibe kachikwu was asked, are you Igbo, his reply was Simply...No, I am more of Lagos and Nigeria.....

The other one was asked he said no, I am from Oshimili north , Anioma.

Now they likes to be Identified as Anioma even tomorrow then why fighting a failed battle when they doesn't want to be seen as Igbo.


Lauretta Onochie today doesn't want to be referred to as an Igbo woman, infact she hates that...She simply want to be referred to as Anioma woman.


So since this is what they want, I don't see any reason why anyone should stop them. After the Anioma is registered and one day it will be finally registered as a language under Nigeria.

I’m sure Masteroeddi and Ojiofor, the two delusional inferiority complex bastards of SE will fall for your usual division attempt that your Yoruba ass have been doing on this forum for God knows how long now. I will not be surprise if they join you in your stupidity but, do yourselves a favor and try and utilize that inch of tiny brain cell you have. I know that’s difficult for you considering you hail from the land of savages and beastiality of SW but at least try. When did Joe Yorubakwe turn to Ibe Kachikwu? What is it? Is it that you’re poorly trained on Igbo leaders or you have to fabricate to fit whatever narrative you want to sell to make your stupid attempt on division work? Make an effort to actually learn the different Igbos and leaders since you’re desperately pretending to be SE Igbos on this forum. At least use that tiny unevolved brain. Just try

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Politics / Re: We Are Not Igbo– Dr Ojieh, National President Izu Anioma. by Ikechunna: 12:20pm On Feb 08, 2020
maestroferddi:
Unfortunately for you, I am grounded on Delta Igbo issues especially as it concerns this denial of Igboness...

One wonders where the so-called Igbo accepters are with volume of antipathy and negative vibes/coming from your side...

The behaviour ranges from denial to apathy and even outright Igbophobia....

There was a time some sections of the South East were trying to manufacture a strange/funny identity for themselves because of negligible dialect issues...The whole of the South East rose up in condemnation and the misadventure died a natural death...

What do you guys do about the chameleons in your midst? The answer is zitch!

It appears you are wont to continue using your Igbo identity for political gains.

All we are saying is that you should graduate from your feeble claim to being Igbo to a demonstrable manifestation...

Strive to get the message....

Just because the likes of you have inferiority complex that you feel others have to report their identity to you to make you feel comfortable does not mean anyone will cater to that complex of yours. Sorry that your ego is so inflated yet, not filled with enough gas. Anioma don’t have do shit just because some SE Igbos demands it. As I said y’all aren’t Gods nor Igbo king maker nor is it our job to scream we are Igbo anytime an ika makes a comment just to appease your complex. Deal with your complex. Work in yourself maybe then, you stop giving a Bleep and waiting for delta Igbos to appease your emotion. Whatever nonsense you writing, once you’re done go to River Niger and cry us a River.

It is always so laughable whenever I read your comment on that we use our igbo identity for political gain. It is extremely comical coming from a SE igbo. What political power do una have? I’ll understand a Fulani making that comment but from a SE? It is funny. You are so delusional you don’t even realize una are in the same level as Yorubas in the political scheme in that shithole aka una political power are in control by the Fulani. Your entire political leaders are followers. It is hilarious that you use politics to elevate your importance. If politics is the reason why we identify as igbo, going by your logic, don’t you think we would have went to the people with the actual political power aka the Fulanis and not people who are in the same level as every southern group and destiny determined by the Fulani. Don’t you think? Boy sit down. As I said get out of that una useless high horse, you look ridiculous sitting on it.

Oya rush and Go look for another Ika writing article about non igbo identity to fill your emotions and appease your low self esteem.

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Politics / Re: We Are Not Igbo– Dr Ojieh, National President Izu Anioma. by Ikechunna: 4:31am On Feb 08, 2020
horsepower102:


I saw their comments and I don’t support it. I was surprised coming back to this thread and seeing it went downhill. The enemy who started it has succeeded.

Nothing gives them the right to insult Anioma people they way they did.

Just like you say the opinions of few igbo deniers don’t represent the majority of Anioma, you also have to know that the opinions of those individuals don’t represent the rest of south east igbos.

I am aware of that hence my attack against Ojiofor focused on just him and not SE despite he was attacking my community. I waited for any SE to scold both him and masterofeddi on there nonsense and despite multiple checked in, none said shit to them, it looked like y’all supported them and since respect is thrown out of the window, I decided to reach the same way. Ironically enough, the only time other SE Igbos spoke up was when I attacked SE thus, excuse me if I didn’t look at it in that perspective anymore. Just like you lots are very proud of your identity of SE likewise, I’m proud of my identity thus, I’ll defend it against whoever taking jabs at it whether the said person is SE Igbo or not.



If you are not a true Igbo or whatever that means, then no igbo on Nairaland is true igbo.

BUT

I do think that the aniomas ( in my opinion) need to be more proactive in squashing igbo denialism.
. And we are. It is just overlooked by you guys on average. Also, nobody is going to change the mindset of a community which their king have the same opinion. The dein of Agbor have the same mentality as his people. He was raised to have that mentality as he was raised by the Oba of Benin. Therefore, nobody would get involved on that. Despite we are one community (Anioma), in reality it is several different nations within one community so it is like asking an Nnewi person/king to tell Onitsha person/King how to identify or run things. The only people that can be changed is who their leader does not have the mentality such as Owa is an Ika community but yet, the amount of Igbo denier within that community is less than Agbor despite being an Ika community. The reason being is that Obi of Owa is pro-Igbo and see himself as Igbo. That is also the reason Okowa, though ika, is very codially with SE Igbos and that's because he's from Owa. The Obi of that side have been working on changing his people with that igbo denier mentality but, he has no right to do that the Agbor or other ika just like Asagba does not, etc. Also, they are slowly learning. Likewise, thanks to the internet, they are getting an overview of how that are looked at by the Bini. Igbanke are an Anioma community in Edo state and they are reporting loudly on the maltreatment they experience on the hands of Edos in that state. Several of them are fighting to be separated from Edo state because of that. btw: Agbor aren't the only one but, I'm using them as example because they are the loudest and Imo has the highest percentage of Igbo deniers...

Secondly, we've repeatedly told SE Igbos that Igbo deniers within our communities are attention seekers hence, they are ignored by us. A perfect example is the man on this article, despite there's an Anioma group that caters to Anioma, rather than join that one, he leading his own and trying to push them to join him so he can be the leader and the voice. That's what they are known for... Attention seeking. You don't give attention to attention seekers because it intensifies it. That's why they are ignored by Anioma and several of us on this forum and other social media have repeatedly told SE to ignore them but, you all ignore our suggestion and continously reply them thus, feeding their ego and giving them the food they want aka attention. We know the people we share communities with, we live with them hence, we know how to deal with them but, SE does the opposite of what we do hence, feeding their need. If SE just listen to us and ignore most Igbo denier comments and articles as y'all do to the pro Igbo ones, you can quote me on this, you people will see a reduction on Igbo deniers articles. You can quote me on this.


As obowo69 mentioned, some south east igbos have had painful experiences that made them just give up on seeking brotherhood with the Aniomas and other igbos in the south south.

Just like some Anioma people like you have had painful experiences from south east igbos.

All these lead to suspicion, anger, and resentment. Let’s not let our enemies win both within and outside.

And I'm aware of that.

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Politics / Re: We Are Not Igbo– Dr Ojieh, National President Izu Anioma. by Ikechunna: 3:35am On Feb 08, 2020
horsepower102:


Hmm ikechunna, no matter what, I will always have your back even if we disagree. The south east igbos have their problems. That’s just not even an argument.

But when SE igbos point out the problems that they see being a stumbling block to true unity and healing, it’s not out of hatred.
Clearly you did not read Mateorofeddi or whatever you calls himself and Ojoifor comments and clearly you have not been here to read the numerous comments of SE Igbos when topics like this are brought. Clearly you haven't been here


SE igbos have been through a lot of betrayals and denials and to be honest with you, SE igbos have overtime develop serious trust issues.
So that gives them the right to insult a community anyhow? That gives them the right abi? Excluding Ikas, how many other Anioma community have repeatedly made articles or messages about whether or not Anioma are Igbos, how many? Yet is it Ikas una focus your anger, nope, you focus your attention on an entire community. I'm not saying to even bash Ikas as obi of Owa is doing his share of cleaning but still, your SE people have made no effort to learn about who's denying them because they've come to their own conclusion on it thus, whatever any Anioma say that supports their opinion, that statement is automatically held in high regards and circulated amongst una. Secondly, being denied gives nobody any right to belittle a community. I've been called fake Igbo by mostly SE Igbos and does that now give me the right to insult una anyhow without provocation? does that? Since, I've been on this forum, how many times have I shown aberration towards SE Igbos until now yet, throughout my life since childhood I’ve been called fake igbo by SE Igbos and I’m not the only Anioma that’s experienced that Thus, would that give us the right to start attacking SE anyhow because of our experiences by the hands of SE?


Please put yourself in their shoes and see things from their perspective for once.
I’ve saw una perspective for several years that’s why I maintained a cordial interactions with una on this forum and walked on eggshells not to offend y’all. Most Anioma that identify as Igbo have repeatedly seen things on una perspective that’s why we’ve tolerated the repeated insults from una many times. When is it going to be y’all turn to see things from our perspective? When?

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Politics / Re: We Are Not Igbo– Dr Ojieh, National President Izu Anioma. by Ikechunna: 3:05am On Feb 08, 2020
maestroferddi:
You are getting the whole thing twisted...

The point being made is that it is high time you guys stood up to be counted...

Think of what you can do for the Igbo family/unity and not what the Igbos can do for you...

Enough of this entitlement mentality in which you view yourselves as outsiders who must be coaxed to carry your weight in the general context of things.

The Aniomas are largely seen by some Igbos as 'beasts of no nation' available for use by traducers and enemies of the Igbo nation to attempt breaking our ranks.

You can preach inclusiveness among your people and not this visceral uppity you are displaying.

Let Anioma rise!

So the efforts of Asagba, Obi of Owa, Ralph umucheze (may his soul rip), obi of idumuje unor, Utomi, Okafor, and several other leaders/elders effort is not making an attempt on unity; it's irrelevant abi? Not shocked about this comment, after all you people have made y'all opinion thus, your focus is always on those that support that una opinion hence, anything an Ika says especially one from Agbor, you lots highlight it, screaming to the top of your lungs about it and as far as I'm concerned I can careless. I've said we've done more than enough to try and appease SE and show the other side of Anioma and that's continously ignored or unregistered by una. I know for me, I'm over it, I could give a Bleep and I can careless on appeasing SE Igbos anymore. Hopefully, the rest joins in that mentality. We are not una slaves and are not going to be una slaves despite y'all attempts to put us as second class Igbos. Kiss our asses. As far as I'm concerned, we don't need SE to validate our Igbo identity therefore, do not need to do shit anymore to make y'all see us as one, especially since y'all see as one una are "accomdating". We are Igbos and we don't have to scream it to the Top of our lungs about it over and over again for SE igbo to feel comfortable and confident. We don't have to do shit anymore to make y'all understand. Personally, I don tire. I can't speak for other delta Igbos but, I do hope they don tire themselves.
Politics / Re: We Are Not Igbo– Dr Ojieh, National President Izu Anioma. by Ikechunna: 2:43am On Feb 08, 2020
horsepower102:


You will be treated as equals the day your people accept and fully embrace their igbo identity. Until then, the igbos of the south east will continue to view you suspiciously and rightfully so.

Igbo identity is not something that can be worn like a clothing material. It’s skin deep.

For now, they are very confused people and you need to focus your energy on doing serious house cleaning.

It is not the role of south east igbos to do that for you rather it’s the “pro-igbo” identitarians amongst you that should do the cleaning.

Have any Anioma on this planet asked SE to fix anything for us? Have Anioma Congress contacted SE Igbos to give speeches during the Igbo identity discussion? If so, name one time. Infact, you people are the ones that butt into our attempt to fix the Igbo identity without invitation. Ironically, despite making huge noise about it, disturbing us on almost monthly basis, yet y'all are not even attempting to fix your side of the rot. I suggest y'all work on yourself because SE actions play a role on it.

Secondly, Focus on you guys divisions than focusing on our division. I've seen multiple arguments between Abambra, Enugu and Imo on this forum, other social media as well as real life when one accused of being inferior to the other based on which state the other comes from. Ebonyi people equally have accused the rest of una of treating them as less than but, no, you people focus is wtf is happening in Aniomaland, not the discrimination amongst unaselves. The focus is on the people making effort to reduce the division within their community as oppose to una numerous problem. Ain't that hilarious

Thirdly, SE has no right to see anyone as their equal on Igbo identity. The Bleep? Very Laughable that you people delude yourself as the top of the igbo identity. Very fucking laughable. The first historical written coin of that term came from a African American slave who narrated his tribal identity. Last I checked, he hails from Modern day Anioma. Who the Bleep are you people to think any body need y'all to see them as equal or you have the right to the term Igbo. Just like Yorubas, you SE Igbos have severe superiority complex without anything to support it except some delusional nonsense you people conjuncted in y'all heads. Just plain laughable.

Go fix y'all numerous problems before focusing your attention on another community. Charity begins at home

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Politics / Re: We Are Not Igbo– Dr Ojieh, National President Izu Anioma. by Ikechunna: 2:19am On Feb 08, 2020
obowo69:


Good. I will never beg anyone to be igbo. Its either you are igbo or you are not.

This is the right attitude every south east person should adopt and I 100% support it.

No condition is permanent and I know things will only get better for south East igbos. Those that deny us or play politics with Igbo identity will be Permanently shut out!!!

And nobody gives two rats about that. Stop crying to us about Igbo deniers since y'all careless.
Politics / Re: We Are Not Igbo– Dr Ojieh, National President Izu Anioma. by Ikechunna: 2:17am On Feb 08, 2020
maestroferddi:
You can spare yourself these tantrums by getting a handle on things or bring yourself up to speed.

If I were to pataphrase, I would say that you guys in Anioma should ship in or ship out.

Nobody should take the accommodating nature of the Igbos for granted.

We have weathered storms and come out stronger for it.

We shall not stand and watch some roguish and undesirable elements from your neck of woods pour scorn and ridicule on the Igbos anymore.

The late Amb Ralph Uwechue was the President General of Ohaneze Ndigbo...Late Col Joe Achuzia nicknamed Hannibal was among the most lionized of Biafran soldiers....Prof Nolue Emenanjo is among the foremost Igbo linguistics and many more people given opportunity for leadership and relevance in the Igbo cosmology...

What do we get? Senseless and unconscionable pettiness...

An African proverb goes thus:....'A man who points to his ancestral home with his left hand is insulting nobody but himself'...

Accommodating nature my black ass. So those of us who say we are Igbo, you goats think that’s “accomdating us." see ndi Ewu. What makes you people think you're more igbo than the rest of us. See delusional. Wtf have you people done for Anioma? Excluding Onitsha people, who are Anioma themselves just happen to be in SE, WTF have the rest of una done that's too justify the "take advantage of our Igbo accomdating nature." See useless church rats seeing themselves as God just because they are in some region. Uwechue, Achuzia, etc deserve that position as any other SE as they are fucking Igbos neither do they or any Anioma owe y'all shit because they lead an Igbo group one time or another. Y'all didn't do anybody a favor. Nobody on this fucking planet made you SE Igbos decider on who or what is Igbo nor are y'all above us in anyway, shape or form in the Igbo identity. Get off that your useless high horse.

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