abduleez1:


No offense but I don't see WICKED doing a billion.
It would have to do impossible numbers to be able to reach that milestone.
I know it's a very popular musical but I don't seeing it being enough for that worldwide gross. It'd most likely over-index in North America and some European countries but I don't see it juice up to $1bn. The best case scenario I see for it with mad performance is $700mn-800mn+ worldwide.

In fact, I'd pick Joker Folie Á Deaux a possible billion dollar film over Wicked.
Why?
*It's done it before. Has more credibility to do it than Wicked. Wicked also has a massive competitor to face in Disney's MOANA 2 a few weeks after release. They'd justle for same audience. So that movie is definitely gonna impact Wicked's gross.

*Lady Gaga also brings her own set of fans to the DC brand. That's a new fanbase that would probably replenish the lost steam Joker might have garnered.
Joker is also leaning on a mix of musical too.

*The addition of a new Harley Quinn iteration is also a big draw. Every ardent DC fan knows Harley Quinn is easily the highest selling female comic book character in terms of merchandise. In fact she's regarded as DC's third pillar, Wonder Woman doesn't even come close and she even outsells Superman. And she's very very popular with girls, t£enage girls at that.

*The Joker is also the most popular and recognisable CBM villain of all time. So there's that. We've seen before @dults are willing to go out enmasse to watch what they want regardless of no kids demography since COVID ie Top Gun: Maverick, The Batman, Dune Part 2, Venom 1&2.

This movie is also almost as controversial as the first. So more juice of the same.

So there's many variables at play for these two movies. Don't be quick to write Joker off. The same way you can bring many PROS for Wicked, I can do same for Joker 2.

Although, I see Joker 2 doing $720-850mn. It has better chances of doing a billion than Wicked. The only advantage I see for Wicked here is cos of it's PG rating.

Of course, joker has a better deal but I sincerely don’t see it getting to a billion at all. Maybe because you don’t know how popular The Wizard of Oz franchise is.
Most people don't go to the movies in some parts of America like Kansas and other mid West States - the movie would do exceedingly well there because it's nostalgic : the last wizard of Oz movie was in the 1930s. It would bring old folks and children to the movies.
I don't even know how to explain further. Let's see how it goes

DieRich5:
I ain't DC fanboy but joker is different from those shit DC movies.

Joker 2019 hit $1b and won 2 Oscars with that little hype

Joker 2024 hype is higher than the last one and it's has lady Gaga as the main female character also the success of the last one will definitely make people wanna watch it more



Let see who will win the $1b mark between Wicked and joker 2.

Little hype keh??

abduleez1:


I don even tire to dey find scary horror movies anymore. My own now is good storytelling or great movie overall.

What movie has actually scared you🤔

DieRich5:
So D.vs.W can't overtake inside out 2

Which movie will top 2024 chart

For me: it's either joker or the lion king and Moana 2 will come close because of Dwayne Johnson but will be 3rd for rankings this year.

You must be either ignorant or a DC crazy fan to think Joker would make a billion again not to talk of getting close to D&W.
The only movie this year that’ld reach inside out 2 is Moana just because of how popular it is on Disney+. Another movie no one is talking about that has a better potential of making a billion easily is Wicked - it's the most popular musical not just in the US but in Asia & Europe. Les Miserables that's not as popular made more than Dune Part Two.
Why Wicked could make a billion
1. Ariana Grande 🤷🏽‍♂️ - She's releasing new music with the movie. Girls will certainly watch the movie multiple times just to be part of the conversation.
2. It's a movie mostly for females - there are not a lot of blockbusters for females and when they're - they make it big (Barbie)- it could be another Barbie.
3. THE Broadway show has made billions of dollars and the highest grossing Broadway musical of all times.
4. It's also centred for children - the bright colours and really moral themes are great for children🔥🔥

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6COmYeLsz4c?si=hX_0sbd34XEjC5im

Kaycee7:
Could be a sign to move on to new hobbies

That's impossible! I can't even bear the thought of that😂.

abduleez1:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EaEllq5FLk?si=FzUUXzA4j7J4w8VX

Oyaskii, I feel these will be right up your alley. ✌🏽👀

What are your 5 most anticipated movies left for the year 🤔 because it looks like the remainder is absolutely stacked!

5. Joker
4. Nosferatu
3. We Live in Time
2. Moana (just because I'm sure it'll be really close to 2bn or even more considering how popular it's on Disney all through the years)
1. Gladiator 2

abduleez1:


Lol, the worst misinformation you can think of at the bolded.
Go and check out STUDIO GHIBLI movies and sin no more. Masterpiece upon masterpiece is all they deliver.
There are also lots of anime movies from other studios too. Most of the anime inspiration Hollywood tapped from for their movie ideas are mostly from the anime movies.

Inception (from PAPRIKA),
The Matrix ( from GHOST IN THE SHELL),
Black Swan (from PERFECT BLUE),
Looper (from AKIRA),
Avatar (from PRINCESS MONONOKE)
Requiem for a Dream (PERFECT BLUE)
Pacific Rim (from GUNDAM & ULTRAMAN)
Lion King. (KIMBA THE WHITE LION)
Van Helsing (from VAMPIRE HUNTER D for costumes and production design).

So that's a list of top tier anime films I've recommended to you already.

I'm somehow also waiting till I see someone to share me the One Piece anime make I just collect too.
Na now I remember say I been get one of my guy wey get that collection a year ago. 🤔

Omo guy I've watched almost every Ghibli movie - what I mean is there're not just a lot of them and they don't make them like they used to

I found this too funny not to share here😂😂😂. Looks like I've a chance Inn the acting industry😂

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2BKT-8FD4s?si=xI5_639LQOOp5gWE

Gidah:
Rings or power is not that bad ,the story is getting more interesting,And getting to know Sauron better from the one from lord of the rings

Most of the people who hate the show online have not even watched an episode👀
Besides- I watched the first episode even though I never finished s1 and it still sucks balls😪.
Any way, keep up the good work

Baddestguyp:


Watch good anime.

There’re only good anime series not movies. And since AOT finished - I decided to end my anime journey until I see someone who already has One Piece pre-downloaded for me to collect

Ami the only one who finds it difficult to watch movies or series now? Or I'm just investing my time in boring shows lately 😩

Baddestguyp:


Didn't even waste my data on a single Episode of season 2.

I don't have much faith in the writers

I heard the episodes are just two people talking😂, Amazon has invested billions already so no stopping them now

BlackManta:


Now that I have seen the other names on the list, I'm suprised that Josh Brolin is the first actor they considered

Because all these actors will fit Hal Jordan better than Josh Brolin

I hope he declines

Did Chris Pine not play wonder woman's lover one time?

Sometimes I think this movies with huge budgets like this is a money laundering scheme or it’s just to pay the over 50 highly acclaimed set to star in this movie

Sooo Looong👀

Kaycee7:
You did say, and here let me quote you

So I'm most definitely not getting it wrong and it is, indeed, irony.

Oh, I didn't even see the word😂, I take it back🙏 I got my grammar wrong then - react would be a better term👍 but in the context of the conversation - it's totally fair what the Drinker said in response to the Boys s5

GloriousGbola:


I never met you but I heard you are an obese midget with bad breath, a lisp, stained brown teeth and no hair.

I don't need to meet you in person to confirm this

People kept telling snake plisken they heard he was taller or he was dead in the escape movies

wtf! 😂😂😂 Looks like you're self reflecting since this is your first time even joining in the conversation.

Kaycee7:
I want to believe you're confusing criticism with reactions. You can react to something you haven't consumed. You can't criticize it. And it's absolutely hilarious how the Cuties you used as an example is a great example of why you can't/shouldn't criticize something you haven't consumed.

Like, perfectly written irony

😂 you're getting it all wrong. I never said the Drinker 'criticized' the series - he didn't: if you actually watched the video, he actually 'reacted' to the backlash it was getting as a 'I told you so' video
So it's not irony🤷🏽‍♂️

Kaczynski:




Reeks of female incels ?

You must be a fan of Andrew tate

abduleez1:
Few moments in the show they can go wildly funny if they want to besides all the doom and gloom going on in the background.

Have you watched fleabag?

WriterNig:
🎥 The Union (2024) = 3.7/10 👎🏻
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You guys just watch anything no matter how generally negative the reviews are😂

NaijaMemes:


Heavy Spoiler guy does breakdowns, easter eggs and hidden meanings in movies and series. Still a kind of review sha.

He never criticises if the content is good or bad - it is not a review channel

NaijaMemes:



Black Panther was not just a movie, it was a movement. You cannot separate both. The Critical Drinker wants to separate both because he doesnt like the black woke movement.

This is what is wrong with criticism - you make up points to defend your point and that's wrong 🤦🏽‍♂️.
You can totally separate it - merit over race- don't you think it's racist to even say you can't seperate it👀 it's like saying you can't condemn a piece of content because the group who made it is black👀
Get over yourselves abeg

NaijaMemes:



Just admit that you dont like wokeness.................

Bro😂😂😂😂 I just said Sex Education was one of my best series until s4 came out. I just think trying to preach above entertainment is not what movies are for

Palehair:

I knew it, I knew this story was taking a political lane and that was what I was trying to avoid but that tells me all I need to know. Again, comparing apples to oranges....... watching clips to watching the entire series is a flawed argument but ok



Ok, good for you

It isn't a political lane - but the showrunner said it himself it was meant to annoy right wing voters🤷🏽‍♂️ so bro chose being political over actual story😂 - glad it worked for him

NaijaMemes:


The Drinker is quite funny at times when he bashes Disney.

I confess that I still watch him for laughs. But for serious critiques or critics, I watch the following-

1. Heavy Spoilers
2. Brain plot

You watch heavy spoilers -for reviews?👀 When has he ever reviewed a movie

NaijaMemes:



Bro, you just proved Palehair's point.

The Boys Season 4 was good. Of course, it wasn't as good as the earlier seasons, which is natural for any superhero series. Please, tell me a superhero series that season 4 is better than the previous season (*cough* the flash).

However, you were swayed by anti-woke right wing movie critics that THE BOYS season 4 is not good. It is still great, even though earlier seasons are better.

Like I said - I watched the Boys S4 and it wasn't great👀 it was good close to avg - personal biases most of the times determines how you take a series - Sex Education is one is my favourite series of all times but most people here hate it because it's gay leaving out its story🤷🏽‍♂️. You can't single out The Drinker because he does the same thing. The Passion of the Christ and Apocalypto was totally hated by people in the United States not because of its story but because of the director and its message- imagine those movies coming out today! Most people in Europe and the US who actually like the movie would say they don't because they don't want to offend folks - the same for Black Panther

NaijaMemes:

However, you were swayed by anti-woke right wing movie critics that THE BOYS season 4 is not good. It is still great, even though earlier seasons are better.

It wasn't just antiwoke right wing movie critics saying this - normal people were saying it too.
The story was rough and had no balance and unlike previous The Boys seasons- it wasn't meshed with reality at all - what was the point of Annie having an abortion storyline except to get rightists talking 😂😂 or the hospital scene where hundreds of normal people were killed with no repercussions whatsoever just to get clips to post on X😂😂

NaijaMemes:
Ah. The Critical Drinker debate!!

The guy has some good points about the wokeness of Hollywood. However, he can be wildly biased. If I want to laugh at Disney or a woke film, I will watch his reviews. Outside that he has a lot of trash opinions.

I remember his foolish take on the first black panther movie.....

You're totally right with his take on black panther but it wasn't foolish- rewatching it over the years shows how overhyped it was - the only reason it was very successful was because it was Marvel combined with black people and white deniers supporting black folks- it doesn't have anything to do with its story🤷🏽‍♂️. But nonetheless, it was still a fun movie to watch

Enifome1:
Just watched ‘It Ends With Us’ and here’s my honest review! 🎬 Watch now and let me know your thoughts in the comments! 📽️ #MovieReview #ItEndsWithUs #BlakeLively #JustinBaldoni #honestreview

Blake Lively wasn't connected with the film at all and her bringing a comedy writer to rewrite a DV movie is *ucked.

Palehair:

Ok buddy, I'm so over this topic because I told you from the very beginning, I don't like or listen to critics so I don't see the need for these back and forth banter and seriously your comparison with cuties is dumb (sorry not sorry), we literally had a visual poster for cuties that kept everyone in an uproar whereas the boys had just a trailer and nothing so again, comparing apples to oranges

It's not, through mass hysteria on rotten tomatoes and X, there have been different clips on the Boys choosing gore and offending right wingers over substance and story - if millions of folks tell me not to watch something THAT I'VE ALREADY PREDICTED WOULD BE ASS! why would I need to watch it and waste 7 + hours when I could be watching something else 🤷🏽‍♂️

Palehair:

So you are gonna skip over the manipulation of.......you know what? Nevermind, let's just agree to disagree

I sincerely don't know anything about that 🤷🏽‍♂️ and can't comment on it. As a cinema goer, I still rely on movie critics to watch a movie- I can always tell when there's personal bias towards a film- like alien: romulus- critical drinker slightly hated the movie but I still went to watch it🤷🏽‍♂️ and it was my thing - he never said don't watch this film

Palehair:

A discussion about the merits and counterpoints for a season you haven't seen is wild

It is totally possible to criticise something you haven't seen. It's like saying 'I can't criticise Cuties because I haven't seen it, that's bollocks to me! You don't have to watch child porn before you criticise it. If people had told him already what's going on in the show, he has every right to criticise without watching

Palehair:

I guess you didn't bother to check out the other examples I gave of his shadiness but I digress. Even if you are right about HOTD which you aren't but you may not know that because many of his fans don't watch his drinkers after or whatever it's called podcast, he bashed the series there again with his buddies. The others examples I gave have already labelled him as one who has bias because there's no way I'm trusting him to properly review a movie after his manipulation of movie scenes to bring in comments, that alone has already ruined any credibility that he has as a critic

You are the one handpicking my points 😂
I watch his podcasts and his after hours sometimes and I don't need to watch every of his video to make my point. Bashing a series doesn't mean he hates it. He could say he hates a particular part of the series but he never said the series was bad overall

Palehair:

I have said he does give valid criticisms but as a critic, you should be neutral which he's far from because he knows his audience and he knows what they want to hear especially if such movies are used as ammunitions for the culture war, he doesn't even have to watch it like he did with the new season of the boys, he just joins the internet bandwagon to bash something he hasn't even seen or goes as far to

This is not true. I even believe he's more authentic than most movie critics because you already know what to get from his reviews. Take a look at HoTD - he made a video before it premiered that it had the potential to suck! but after watching the first season, he changed his mind- also, he has been a hater of Disney star wars projects and Disney overall- it'll do him well if he bashed every Disney and Star Wars project that comes out but he never does - he gave a good review for shows like Andor, Mandalorian s1 and S2, which to everyone's POV were good shows, even Disney movies like Deadpool and Wolverine and others - he wasn't bias🤷🏽‍♂️ unlike some reviewers like Reel Rejects and Cinepals who watched the Acolyte in pain and never gave a bad review even tho it showed in their edit and face that it was bad because they didn't want to offend the overlords. He has always kept it real🤷🏽‍♂️ - to himself.

Palehair:

he doesn't even have to watch it like he did with the new season of the boys, he just joins the internet bandwagon to bash something he hasn't even seen or goes as far to manipulate the movie scenes so as to make the writer's job look incompetent as in the case of glass onion, now anyone who looked at his review won't even bother to watch that movie not knowing "drinker" manipulated the scenes to make the movie look stupid in the review...... Now is that a movie critic to you or someone who just wants to give his audience what they crave? Something to talk crap about

In terms of the boys - he has already said right from s3 - he won't be watching the boys s4 - the video wasn't a review of the boys s4 - it was just a discussion about its merit and counterpoints, he never said it was a review