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SpaceX:
why must it have to be through violence?

Why is it usually a Daniel or Ezra or Chisomething? Do two wrongs make a right?

It's usually some Daniel or Ezra. When they handle this one now, folks like Emusan will count these chriSTAINs also as Christian genocide. mtchewwww. It's an absolute disgrace.

Emusan:
As long as it makes you happy. It's your cup of tea.

Wasn't going to reply this, but i have free time to help you stop lying yet again. i hope you allow it to remain my cup of tea and stop disturbing space and time over my support.

You keep making this about Tinubu and I've told you, even if Tinubu rules Nigeria forever. That's none of my business.

Let's pray that he rules Nigeria forever, since it is none of your business na. Another lie.

Glad you know.

You don't seem to know.

Nobody is denying there's no insecurity in Nigeria.

You are when you keep making it about your self and your view alone.

Also, nobody says only one tribe or religion suffered it.

Are you a nobody, because you keep asking me for proof of this.

But what you're still denying is that there's no Christian genocide in Nigeria.

Because there is none. Professing muslims and christians are insecure and dying in Nigeria, a sad and unfortunate reality.

No! The crux of the matter and important to the solution is that, those who want to suppress the growth of the Christians in Nigeria and Nigeria as a country should be recognized as Islamic Nation should bury that idea, if truly freedom of worship is enshrined in our constitution.

Yet people like you are living in denial.

No one can suppress the growth of Christians in Nigeria except christians themselves, except you don't believe and understand the words of Jesus. Not even Nero and his horde or the gates of hell could stop the 'explosion' of the early church. Why? The church stood on Christ's mandate. Until the church stopped itself. BTW, i thought you just said that you don't care about the politics, but now you call it the crux, lol.

Who narrows it down to religious narrative?

The questions you still failed to answer are:
1. Why are the majority of this attack happened in Christians DOMINATED AREAS?
2. How many numbers of Christians place of worship have been burnt and destroyed in ratio to others?

i took time out to explain Nigeria's complex security situation to you, but you scorned it as copied and insist on narrowing it to a religious narrative.
The North is by NO MEANS christian dominated. Tell this story in the south. North West, North East, and North Central have faced serious security challenges and deaths, so it is by no means statistically christian dominated. It is not christians to dominate the many local governments that boko haram and co have turned into eye-sore. You are consistently narrowing Nigeria's problems down to your village where you know. Reliable and various data proves otherwise.

“There is no genocide happening in Nigeria. The first documented victims of Boko Haram are the Muslims” -

Great response from Mahmoud Ali Youssouf, the African Union Commission Chairperson on allegations of Christian genocide in Nigeria. pic.twitter.com/jGPL7dcQhc

— Daddy D.O🇳🇬 (@DOlusegun) November 14, 2025

Up there is the AU commission chairperson saying what i have said. Do you believe him? No, it doesn't fit your view. You'd rather believe some ludicrous photocopy you posted for me from 2010 or something.

We all agreed but the question left out is who is doing the killing and for what purpose?

Lolz, are you asking? i thought you said it's my brothers or something. When i answered this, you complained that it was copied.

So who is playing politics with the killings happening in Nigeria right nowm

You and your types that are narrowing it down to a religious viewpoint.

I should be the one to tell you that you refused to see the genocide against Christians.

The purpose of this thread is to show that the new INEC chairman appointed by your leader once acknowledged the genocide against Christians. Likewise many people in this government including Tinubu.

So why are you accusing ONLY me of refusing to SEE YOUR ONLY TRUTH?

Lolz at my only truth, whatever that even means. Stick to facts, not he said and she said. i can give you ten different government people that say there's no such thing/ Do you believe them, since they are government officials or what kind of fallacy is this?

You can provide your evidence of me having any camp.

Did you think of evidence when you labelled me? Don't you belong to the camp of people who hate the president, see nothing good in him and parrot about a genocide?

This particular political debate caught my attention because I know the victims, escape/delivered from attacked & living in the affected area.

So, you reading just news can't be saying you're telling me the truth.

How many victims do you know? What is the % to the millions of Nigerians affected that we must leave the millions and hundreds of thousands to support your own angle only?

Any pastor who is for the truth knows what is going on in Nigeria, so any pastor who claimed there's no Christian genocide in Nigeria is lying.

I think I read Pastor Adeboye statement somewhere about "You can't be a tested Christian until you have lived in the North"

Why this statement?

Even you claimed you're being persecuted as Christian in Nigeria but yet tell us the nature of the persecution you're experiencing.

You even tried to shift the blame on the innocent Christians by saying they're not being killed for their faith but they're just defending their business and land.

You later switch to land grabbing as defense for the monster killers yet you couldn't provide any evidence of a Muslim land these killers have grabbed and rename.

Any pastor who is well informed, has the spirit of discernment and is intelligent enough would be very wary to parrot genocide. Nigeria is much bigger, and its problems more complex than your personal experience, dear. Read wide, study farther and develop a broad mindset of what is happening around. You are clearly living within an echo chamber.

LordReed:
If placebo works without belief in a magic sky daddy then there is no need for it. To me that indicates there isn't a sky daddy at all because you cannot produce any effect from your faith in magic sky daddy that is distinguishable from natural occurrence both in efficacy and frequency.

Lolz, belief or expectation or trust does not have to be only in God. It was not designed that way; no less than love is only to be for God. It only exposes the untapped realm you've missed out on. They are not dependent on each other in the sense.
Faith or belief in oneself, or in a person, has produced outstanding results over the ages. Hopefully, you don't deny that. Faith in God is the highest form of faith. It also matters what you believe God for. We have believed God for things you don't intend to believe, so we're not complaining.

LordReed:
How can we distinguish between placebo/nocebo effect and faith?

They are all belief/expectations. There's an according to your faith. There are levels/grades of faith, and what or who you believe in.

LordReed:
Lemme add:

1. What is mind?

2. What are thoughts?

3. Why do things like placebo and nocebo work?

Lolz, so you accept that placebo and nocebo work, but have problems with faith.

November 20 beckons. 7 days away.

SeverusSnape:
Mr. Agbado, It's why I said they are rubber stamp, So it's not surprising if they approved it two years ago.

You missed the point. Something that was already rationally and reasonably approved last year would not be disapproved or fought over now just to act drama or show you they are not rubber stamp. It's commonsense.
The Medium Term Framework which is like the long term or medium term plan for spending and borrowing was already discussed extensively and approved last year, both by the executive, legislative committees and representatives/senators from all over Nigeria including your village. The actual execution or bit by bit, short term is already contained. It's simply confirmed for execution.
So, except you have a superior idea, stop wailing.

SeverusSnape:
Rubber stamp as usual. Even if the bill will kill Nigerians, They will approve it.

Don't wail so loudly dear. They already approved this since last year.

Emusan:
Almost everyone in Tinubu camp admitted the genocide against Christians in Nigeria, yet I don't know why Image123 is arguing no genocide against Christians

Number 1, i am not in the Tinubu camp, whatever that means. It's more a case of an enemy of my enemy is my friend, plus biblical command to be subject to leadership and a dose of truth. i will take a Tinubu 11 times out of 10 over any of his other visionless opposition options. At the end of the day, the decisions of the leadership affects us all. i know what nonchalance until Jonathan cost me and us all, concerning the leadership of Nigeria. i have said countless times that there's gross insecurity in Nigeria. All over the North. It's not just one tribe or religion that suffers it. This is the crux of the matter and important to the solution.
Narrowing it down to a religious narrative doesn't solve Nigeria's problems. Killings and insecurity of Nigerians must stop. And not at the cost of some political gimmick.
Since you refused to see this, no problem. We stick to our different opinions. i don't force you to accept and understand your pain to some extent/way. It's your camp that insists everyone not supporting your theory has a problem. All pastors must support you and your viewpoint otherwise they are compromised or evil or something. It's well.

9jawazobia:
Thank you Lt Yerima for putting him in his place, I've integrity speaks volume and telling him to shut up as if he talking to his son or his workers he wants to intimidate him.. stupid man

Imagine we replaced Wike with one of your favorites in opposition now, you'd have been heaping curses on government, blaming Tinubu and crying about oppression. We all know what we're doing.

onatisi:
as far as he was under orders from his bosses ,he isn't doing illegal work. He didn't go there on his own ,he was sent by his boss

Murifa, don't cry when the slow wheels of the law takes its course on the officer. His boss will likely deny him.

onatisi:
This guy deserves an award . He is a future leader . Kudos to his bosses,he showed great discipline,control and composure

WIKE VS NIGERIAN NAVAL OFFICERS

What does the law says?

We may be happy that Wike met his match today.

We may even say, dem serve am the food of intimidation wey him sef dey serve others

But, regardless of our personal opinion The law is not emotional and will never be

Under the law, a military officer does not have the right to intervene in land dispute matters. Talkless of the stopping a Minister from inspecting a Land.

Under the Land Use Act, Land ownership belongs to the Governor of the State, of which Wike is equivalent to in the FCT.

Land disputes are civil cases and even the Police doesn't have the right to intervene, until there is a crime, like fighting

The basic responsibility of the Nigerian Military, is to defend Nigeria from external aggression.

Maintain the territorial integrity and secure the borders.

Suppress insurrection and act in aid of civil authorities to restore order (under specific conditions and Presidential directive only).

Any attempt by a military officer like what we saw today, to assert jurisdiction or forcibly intervene in a non-military land dispute is unlawful and an abuse of power.

That Military Officer and who ever sent them on that mission, needs to face punishment for acting outside their legal jurisdiction.

It is an insult to our democratic ruling, to have military officer sent to protects ordinary Land.

A civil case for that matter, o no

Ignorance of the law is no excuse
The People's Parliament

https://x.com/abdullahayofel/status/1988299532271018268?t=vrFO_gMcKZt4unDEr3q3ew&s=19

ambale:
Man sofry put the Abuja Landlord in his place 😁😁😁

He thinks a military personnel na hypocrite like the policemen dey order around

Even by Rank that man senior Wike himself ☺️

WIKE VS NIGERIAN NAVAL OFFICERS

What does the law says?

We may be happy that Wike met his match today.

We may even say, dem serve am the food of intimidation wey him sef dey serve others

But, regardless of our personal opinion The law is not emotional and will never be

Under the law, a military officer does not have the right to intervene in land dispute matters. Talkless of the stopping a Minister from inspecting a Land.

Under the Land Use Act, Land ownership belongs to the Governor of the State, of which Wike is equivalent to in the FCT.

Land disputes are civil cases and even the Police doesn't have the right to intervene, until there is a crime, like fighting

The basic responsibility of the Nigerian Military, is to defend Nigeria from external aggression.

Maintain the territorial integrity and secure the borders.

Suppress insurrection and act in aid of civil authorities to restore order (under specific conditions and Presidential directive only).

Any attempt by a military officer like what we saw today, to assert jurisdiction or forcibly intervene in a non-military land dispute is unlawful and an abuse of power.

That Military Officer and who ever sent them on that mission, needs to face punishment for acting outside their legal jurisdiction.

It is an insult to our democratic ruling, to have military officer sent to protects ordinary Land.

A civil case for that matter, o no

Ignorance of the law is no excuse
The People's Parliament

HardMirror:
Most Christians are now directly saying it that prayers is not what we need but action. Insecurity and the genocide going on has indeed proven that all those prayers for protection is a waste. Even inside the churches, people are being slaughtered while the non existent god is unable to do anything.

Meanwhile some are still being fooled and politicians are still asking them to keep praying.

i wonder what the 12 apostles must have taught and thought. Don't you? You'll imagine how they all died and what they all faced.
You don't know God at all, that's why you don't believe Him. He is not who you want Him to be dear. He is Him.

Jagaban of the globe.

Are they Christians or Hindus or simply Nigerians?

Mattswaggz:
These aren't special requirements.... they're just logical expectations.

And yes every other person out there is expected to make their own logical requirements if need be.

Good. Billions of other people have made their own requirements of who they expect God/god to be. Evidently, it doesn't look like yours.

Offpoint1:
😂 Yeah... "God's children" are 100% perfect 😂 🤣
Lord's prayer is faulty then 😂 "Forgive us our trespasses... "... 😂

God has no children committing sin. Your question remains misplaced and irrelevant.

Mattswaggz:
My requirements from God/Nature have been provided to some extent....My expectations of the Lord who was tagged the "true and all powerful Lord" is at least the ability to had reveal himself to all race and people on earth and then leave then He can judge them according to their decision given they already know of his existence,his expectations of them and also that he "created them" ......any god that came from one tribe,race, ethnicity etc is no true god... it's most likely the specific "tribe,race, ethnicity etc" are selling their own ideology of god to other which behind that idealogies lies deceit, conquest,self exhalation etc.

The smart one's amongst the son's of men have refused to be caught in someone/a group of people's scheme using the name of the Lord.

How do you make up these requirements? Are others allowed to make their own requirements or it has to be like yours?

Mattswaggz:
Which requirements...be specific.

Your requirements and expectations of god.

What do we say of the countless misleading on Africa by media? Africa is filled with animals and people living on trees narrative. Abeg. This one na in-house.

Mattswaggz:
Shallow comparison.....any god that didn't reveal himself to everyone at once is either fake or a made up concept.

For example? How do you make up these requirements?

koladata:
Oga you didn't come to life only to pray, you come to life to experience, why are you praying for 5 hours. What exactly are you praying for 5 hours straight, state the reason why you have to pray for 5 hours straight , is it for wealth or salvation? . I don't even think Jesus prayed for 5 hours straight every day

If this 5 hours straight is a morning prayer, that means you would pray from 6am till 11am you no get work ? if it is a night prayer , that means you would pray from 9 or 10pm till 3 am , you no dey sleep ?

10 year old boys are building machines in china , you dey pray 5 hours. I just don't like some set of people i'm sharing country with.

It appears i don't understand you. Did anyone talk about praying for 5 hours daily?
BTW, not everyone is doing the kind of work that you are streamlining all jobs to be. How many machines have you built since you refused to pray? Or is it the people praying that were more powerful than you to hinder you?

Offpoint1:
😂 You need the English class more... Respond to my first question, let me take my stand on your person.

i already responded to your question but your English is too poor to see it. God has no children committing sin, so no need bringing up a would you burn your children question.

MaxInDHouse:
Ask Jesus who sent sinners out to preach to save sinners!😂

Lolz, sinners like the pharisees, saducees, robbers and Herod, right?

Joh_13:10  Jesus saith to him, He that is washed needeth not save to wash his feet, but is clean every whit: and ye are clean, but not all.
Joh_15:3  Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.
Joh 17:9  I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.

MaxInDHouse:
Whatever you feel like saying but one thing is sure first century disciples of Christ aren't perfect when they unitedly produced the fruit expected of Christianity so you can continue lying to yourself thinking it's about perfect people!🙂

Errmmm, what exactly are sinners preaching to fellow sinners without bags and magazines for sale?

Offpoint1:
Romans 3:23, "for ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God"

Explain this in contradiction to 1jn 3:9 you quoted 😂

You still didn't answer my initial question 😂

Present perfect tense, an action that happened in the past but has a connection to the present. Different from simple present and present continuous. You probably need an English language teacher.
If you understand basic tenses, you'd see the answer.

Offpoint1:
Will you set your son or daughter ablaze if they "continously" disobey you?

If you can't, then it's time you outgrown the story...and if you can, then stick to the story, it suits your person.

1Jn 3:9 KJV Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

1Jn 3:8 KJV He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

MaxInDHouse:
The right thing to do if you found out the religion associate with is fake is to leave but you must find the true religion.

Jesus said by their fruits you will know {Matthew 7:16} this means there are fake churches as well as the only true church therefore whoever leaves a church but couldn't find any better one is indirectly saying there is no God.

So what is the fruit of the only true church?

What do you think the fruit is? They go around with bags selling Asleep and living in sin?