₦airaland Forum

obailala:
Nigeria doesn't have more people than India or indonesia.

Didn't mention otherwise. It takes consistency to build. You either have a good leader for a long time or consistently good leaders following a master plan. Countries better than us have had that history, we've never been that lucky. We've been riddled with topsyturvy policy and political flip flop leadership.

Truthseeker10:
Explain...what is the fruit of TB Joshua in contrast with the rest pastors that you mentioned?

Zero fruit.

It's not news na, we have large numbers in everything due to population. Large numbers of Christians, large numbers of muslins, large numbers of births and deaths, young people and old people, large numbers of graduates, professors and of those who speak English.
We have more people that speak English in Nigeria than in UK, Canada and Australia combined.
Let's stop abusing statistics like Obi.

Kingosytex:
I don't really know about others, but Pst Chris has been an ardent teacher. Man stays very far away from controversy.

He's become more matured in the past years, apart from some funny predictions and takes. He grew his ministry by controversy. Now we have many such preachers around like Damina and co, he's toned down seriously.

deltateam:
Why do you say TB isn't genuine despite his impact?

Mat 7:16 KJV Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

Truthseeker10:
So why is TB not genuine but the rest you mentioned genuine?

Mat 7:16 KJV Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

RealSleek:
You miss the point..Judas didn't do anything bad by facilitating the fulfillment of the scripture..stop painting him bad..you should celebrate Judas . Without Judas there is no christianity

Okay boss.

Whois:
There are more than 1000 parts that make a vehicle to work. Break down can happen to any vehicle

A new vehicle is generally less likely to break down than an old one. It's an extreme example to give in comparison.

Obi the perpetual late comer and failed presidential candidate. Indeed, Obi remains a boy.

RealSleek:
But without Judas will Jesus die, in my opinion, Jesus's death is the foundation of Christianity..so Judas should be celebrated.he was created for that purpose ..to facilitate the death of Jesus..it was predestined. He should be somewhere at the right hand of your god cos he made it happen.

You don't understand that everything works together for God's good. If you like, do good or bad, God's purpose will ultimately be fulfilled. Na you must give yourself brain, and ask God for mercy.

Pastor Oyakhilome, TB Joshua if we can call him pastor. Pastor Adeboye and Bishop Oyedepo.
That's about the Pentecostal arm though. The catholic and orthodox arm have long gone to the dogs.
My post isn't to judge anyone of them. They've all been very useful and instrumental in the cause of Christ, and i dare say that they are all genuine servants of God, except of course TB.
Oyakhilome, Adeboye and Oyedepo had and still have enormous influence on those people that are dragging Christ on the floor. Their attitude and silence hasn't been very encouraging.

MrPresident1:
They are not the same thing, that is, the appearing of Jesus is different from his coming.

Even though I have explained this before, I feel the need to explain it again

On what authority are you to explain anything about Jesus to anyone? You should have some shame following numerous failed guesses on this platform/forum.

[quote author=zoomzoom post=140941019][/quote]No dear, brand new vehicles do not break down, especially not on a 1.4km bridge.

Collinsade369:
😢 Alot of businesses are folding up.. Every month family members and friends must enter your WhatsApp and beg for financial assistance and Money.
Most of the time you can't even post SOLD on your business Whatsapp status because immediately family and friends see your status that you have made sales and you are cashing out they will enter your DM and beg for money...
This is the worst Government we have ever had 😢

A lot of businesses are also quadrupling interests. Men dey, na you sit inside room dey type ignorance.

Daniel0047:
I don't believe in anything called EDUCATION because we can't judge squarely.
Think of lawyers who said they are educated only to be sold out
Think of professors who are not licking the shoes of forgers

Humanity is not longer the core values within this scammers.

Have you sat yourself down to think that there's no option? Which serious person will see Tinubu and choose Obi or Atiku to direct a country, if not for tribal or personal interests?

Racoon:
Because of ethno-religio-regional tribal bigotry and parochial sentiments, persons like Jide Kosoko who took part in the Occupy Nigeria and Ojota protests of 2014/15 is today saying this crap because of a fellow Yoruba man is on seat. Don't worry today is worst than 2014. You don't know tomorrow.

Meanwhile, even if you intend to rig an election, must you rub it in the faces of the citizens? Jide should study how the power of the people has brought change in other democracies.

You cannot keep undermining the people and taking their patience for granted. A day will come when citizens say, Enough is enough

Who are these people you keep deluding yourself with? Are the majority that voted and will vote for the government aliens or non Nigerians? It's a democracy for God's sake. Stop deceiving yourself about reason for people's choices. Why are they not voting for Sowore or Makinde due to so called ethno regional tribal whatever. Wake up and stop gaslighting yourself. This didn't work in 2023 and will not work in January. Bring up alternatives, not clowns and content creators. No sensible or serious person will see Tinubu and Obi and pick Obi. That's why you see every serious person supporting Tinubu. 33governors out of 36 should speak loudly to you. All the masters of commerce and industry are aligned. All the who is who can't all be wrong.

tuoyoojo:
The president went off the national grid when he saw that he couldn't solve the power problem

If previous presidents had seen this simple facts, we won't be where we are today. Open the market, instead of wasting money trying to monopolize repair of refinery, ajaokuta, Nigeria airways or nepa.

DatNiggaDaz:


Who is solving the electricity problem in Lagos.

The Lagos that has an independent electricity Act since 1999, where is the electricity from Lagos

Who's this ignorance? Was Lagos not covered by the national grid?

DatNiggaDaz:


The one your faaake certttifficcate hollldderr did as a faaake guru str*tegist as Governor of Lagos and even after hokding Lagos ransom till today, where is the electricity of Lsgos since 1999 ?

You're clearly a teenager or in your early twenties. Either that or your a follower of Obi, those ones need medical and spiritual help.
Nigeria’s major law allowing individuals, companies, and state governments to generate electricity is the Electricity Act 2023, which was signed into law by President Bola Tinubu on 8 June 2023.
It changed Nigeria’s electricity framework by allowing states to regulate electricity markets within their jurisdictions, subject to the Act’s provisions, rather than leaving the sector primarily under the federal framework.
Tinubu did this in his 1st week in office.

erico2k2:
question to answer if another truck broke down would a next truck be able to go fru?

Why are you breaking down on a 1.4km road? What happened to road worthiness before a trip? Many Nigerians cannot survive a truly working country.

Nigerians are too indisciplined. That minibus has no business on that road in the first place. If we're disciplined, roads won't need a divider in the first place. We can't even drive in our lane, we honk like jungle people, and don't know traffic laws.

As usual, Nigeria has been up there for decades. Our problems didn't start today. The good thing is that they're being solved. The electricity act of 2023/24 is what should have been done since 1980. If states and private sector had been allowed to generate and distribute electricity, some states would have been free today.

bentenny:
😂 You’re telling me to Google an idiom because a shoe joke got under your skin.

You came boasting about Tinubu’s achievements,but the moment you were cornered,you abandoned the argument for threats and military deployment.😁

Imagine losing a debate about political competence and running to Google to defend your ego.

All that noise,yet you still haven’t answered the original point.Tinubu’s biggest achievement here might just be how easily his supporters lose their composure when triggered.😂😂

Keep triggering. January 16 is about 90days away. You'll trigger and joke well then.

bentenny:
@highlighted...Is this a political debate or a fan club competition?

You’re comparing leaders with playground taunts, as though Tinubu’s shoes are a national monument.😆

The funniest part is calling Obi a mere presidential aspirant as if Tinubu descended from heaven with a presidential title.😂

When your argument is nothing but fanboy slogans,perhaps the shoes are the only thing you can discuss.

It's an idiom, you should find out the meaning via Google or AI.
All Obi and his boys have left are threats. When government sends military to monitor them, they'll cry intimidation. lolz.

January 16th 2027 📌 pic.twitter.com/OQeojCN1Zp

— Harry Da Diegot (@trigottista) October 16, 2026

bentenny:
You keep proving my point without realising it.

Tinubu’s rise involved strategic alliances, planning and opposition to the government.

Nobody claims criticism alone made him president. The argument is that you cannot dismiss Obi for criticising the government while pretending Tinubu’s own opposition history is irrelevant.

You call Obi incompetent in everything political, yet offer no evidence to support that sweeping claim.

If Tinubu’s achievements are your standard, apply that same standard to Obi. Stop moving the goalpost whenever the comparison exposes your double standard.

Obi cannot lace Tinubu's shoes by any tangible metrics. How do you put Obi in the same sentence with standard or achievement? A mere presidential aspirant.

bentenny:
You claim Tinubu earned his reputation through vision and achievements,but you cannot erase the role his opposition to the federal government played in his political rise.

He criticised those in power before 2015, yet you now act as though Obi’s criticism is evidence of incompetence.

If criticism is irrelevant to leadership,then stop using it against Obi.If you believe Tinubu deserves credit for his achievements despite being a critic,then judge Obi by the same standard.

You cannot celebrate Tinubu’s political history while applying a different rule to Obi.That is hypocrisy,not an argument.

What political rise? Sowore and other activists have been criticizing governments for decades. Where's the political rise? Tinubu rose from winning senate to states to appointing federal government officials to becoming president by careful planning/calculation, study and strategic alignments, patience, forming allegiances, being visionary, undeniable and convincing governance milestones, and some political grit.
If criticizing people is your messiah's route, advice him to do a proper job at it. Obi has shown incompetence in everything politics so far. Your insistence doesn't change facts.

January beckons, all these ones no count for INEC office. BVAS and iREV no dey score content creation and online polls.

bentenny:
You’ve only strengthened my argument. Tinubu’s Lagos record was his selling point,but how did he build that reputation? Was he not a fierce critic of the federal government before the APC took power?

So criticism was a legitimate political tool when Tinubu used it, but suddenly becomes proof of incompetence when Obi does it? You cannot argue that critics cannot make good leaders while celebrating Tinubu, who was himself a vocal critic before becoming president.

Your sweeping claims that Obi failed as a governor, husband, family man, godfather and opposition leader are a collection of insults, not evidence.What does his private family life have to do with his capacity to govern Nigeria?

If you disagree with his Bangladesh comparison, challenge the figures and explain why they are wrong. Calling statistics bogus without demonstrating the error is not an argument.

You have still not addressed the original issue: whether critics can become good leaders. Instead, you have diverted into personal attacks because the Tinubu comparison exposes the contradiction in your argument.

You cannot praise Tinubu for opposing a government and then disqualify Obi for doing the same. That is not principle;it is political hypocrisy.

Tinubu built his reputation by providing better governance and a better alternative to the ruling party. That was his selling point in winning back the SW and then Nigeria, not criticism. Every opposition criticises, whether constructively or otherwise. He hardly even did personal criticisms like Obi does creating contents and writing on X today.
No one says criticism is a proof of incompetence, what is being said is that Obi is incompetent. Your private has a lot to do ethically and even religiously with your public life. Go and ask google or AI how. Bring Obi's stats one by one or create a thread to discuss them, i will gladly oblige you.
Being a good leader has to do with qualities like vision, competence, capacity, courage. It has next to nothing to do with criticism. Anyone can criticise anything, it is a different thing to come and do it. People criticise Messi and Ronaldo every day.
i don't praise Tinubu for opposing a government. i praise him for being a visionary and for his achievements as a leader.

CodeTemplar:
So in your compromised synapses, it is the a coastal road that will reduce poverty. Idle airports will also.
Flyover can as well.

You once denied existence of Lakurawa, a well know Sokoto sultanate terror group.

The coastal road project is one out of many other government projects. Some of the basics to reduce poverty starts with the macroeconomics being fixed, the investments coming into Nigeria in the billions of dollars, the infrastructure being built, the reforms we are seeing and getting from tax to communications to health to education.

i didn't deny the existence of your group, i said that i was not aware of it or something.

DeepSight:
It is extremely unlikely to impossible that this particular president will have a result announced that is not his victory.
The worst that can happen is that people record and follow the votes dligently such that the real results are known regardless of what INEC announces. In that event, if it happens that one of the opposition candidates is the real calculated winner, there may be some unreast, but thats about all. INEC will still announce BAT.

At the real root though, is the failure of Atiku and Obi to sacrifice and / or unite. That alone is at the real root of the matter and for that reason alone, they should not cry whan BAT is announced.

“Jagaban will win this election. Wike will do what he wants to do, APC will do what they want to do, and nothing will happen.” pic.twitter.com/yo6pVoUP1b

— Kemisola (@Stainlesz05) October 16, 2026

For your viewing pleasure. Hear what your people are already feeling on the streets. Let Atiku and Obi continue wailing about how many states Tinubu will visit, and how many grammatical mistakes he'll make.

Na so human being fit be, ask Esau and Jacob.

bentenny:
And what exactly did Tinubu do to bring the APC to power?

He criticised the government,mobilised opposition and sold Nigerians an alternative.

So criticism was a legitimate political tool when Tinubu used it,but suddenly becomes proof of incompetence when Obi does it?

You cannot celebrate Tinubu for building an opposition that removed an incumbent and then dismiss critics as people who know nothing about leadership.

Your fruitless defence of Tinubu has only reinforced my argument that criticism does not disqualify anyone from leadership.

Tinubu's leadership of Lagos and BRF as face of Lagos was a huge selling point. That was the model the opposition looked up to, not criticism. Obi on the other hand has failed as a governor, godfather, husband, family man, opposition leader and presidential candidate. He's only been successful in his personal business and tribal/religious division.
No one asked him not to criticize, but don't fail at it, giving bogus Bangladesh stats and comparing apples to oranges.