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Uprightness100:
A Starving Gazan

Instead of all this, wouldn't it be easier for israel to just allow independent journalists including those from friendly countries like CNN and BBC for example to go in and report what's going on?

There'll be no need for you to be doing this PR campaign

Israel has spent millions trying to win hearts and minds abroad, will spend 20 times more

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-835151

"Under the new budget, Israel’s Foreign Ministry will receive $150 million, on top of what it gets for its existing activities, for what’s officially known as public diplomacy, or in Hebrew, hasbara. That sum is more than 20 times what such efforts have typically been allotted in past years. "

From the flood of propaganda posts, it seems hasbara is in full flow

Obedience40:
Gbadebo19 and usmanpogo were having a good conversation, devoid of insult, a proper discuss, before you interpose with your needless scribbles, nobody asked for your opinion man, and besides who made you of all people the arbiter in the thread? What gives you the impression that you possess the perspicacity to determine what is superior or not?? Will you stop interjecting yourself into discuss way above your paygrade

What a cliche coming from the same person, who later went and have a lengthy spree with the same people who he tags as never conceding to "superior" arguments.

All this just to say nothing

Not shocked...not even a bit

Hoaxen:
lol 😆
Did you forget so soon?

First 👇


Second 👇


Third 👇


You can't make a single sentence without worshipping yourself.

It reminds me of the professor and the fisherman and do you remember what happened to the professor?

You are like the professor multiplied by ten.

"Not everyone has a sharp wit and intellect, but with the way you easily understood my post, I doff my hat for you"

How you see this as anything other than a compliment to Shoodboi is astounding

Shoodboi's reply was in sharp contrast to your allies', who had completely misunderstood my post...it seems you took issue with me pointing out the shallowness of your allies' comprehension


"The fools are desperately trying to infuse meanings to what I said inorder to invalidate my disgust at israel's actions"

And then your comment:

"Called those who do not swallow your propaganda without question, fools"

1. I don't try to indoctrinate anyone, so associating me with propaganda is a miss

2. I have no other words to call people who insist on a false opinion, despite rebuttals clarifying my actual position except fools

"What's the point of arguing with people who'll never concede to superior arguments? Unless you enjoy endless (read pointless) engagements"

And then your comment:

"And now you call your arguments superior"

1. I didn't reference any of my previous posts, I was directly quoting usmanpogo...any sensible person would know I was endorsing his arguments as superior

2. It is a fact that the monikers usmanpogo was going against never concede even a point, regardless of whatever evidence that's put up. It has happened time and again

3. Others agree to being wrong once in a while, but those guys never


How you interprete any of that to mean self-veneration on my part, is curious to say the least

Gbadebo19:
Another assertion without proof.
Oga lawyer, "he who asserts must prove" 🧏🧏🧏

Since you think Nairaland is a courtroom, who's the judge?

You're not as smart as you think

Gbadebo19:
Yes, I thirst for mentorship. It's because I am never tired of learning and re learning.
Unfortunately, the mentorship I thirst for is not from your type who don't know they are required by law to prove a claim they make. No set my brain into reverse gear Abeg.

When you type things like these, they just make you look foolish

It's evident your knowledge of Law is very elementary, because the kind of things you try to use to one-up me are things that 100level students concern themselves with

You want me to entertain nonsense talks of Statements of claims and the likes? Go do that with your fellow Law students...like I said, we're worlds apart

Gbadebo19:
Abeg, who paid this guy school fees . The person should go and seek a refund immediately.
So, you can't even determine a sarcastic statement. Shey you no do literature for school ni? Your matter don dey tire me oo.
Be like I go send you back to work in my block industry. 🤣🤣

Let's not talk about school because, neither you nor anyone in your family, including whatever children you may have, can or will ever attend any of the schools I went to

Secondly, you constantly bring up me being a lawyer which is a fact I usually allude to in response to comments from you exclusively. Now whether you claim I'm fake or whatever, I can categorically state I am indeed a Lawyer, but for all your empty boasts, you can't because you're not. You're still a Law student and that's if you haven't dropped out

Outside of this thread, you can't roll in my circles...this isn't some empty boast, it's a fact because I'm distinct from you on all levels

You amuse me always, like the class clown usually does

Hoaxen:
Are you not the same person who claimed that Gbadebo19 thinks highly of himself?

You accuse others of being full of themselves, meanwhile, you alone has:
1. Boasted that your posts are so intelligent that only those who are as "intelligent" as you can understand them.

2. Called those who do not swallow your propaganda without question, fools.

3. And now you call your arguments "superior".

My my, what a big Ego you have.
If you're not careful, you might drown in it. 😢

Just like you're Gbadebo19's alternate, you seem to live in an alternate reality where everything's in reverse

Everything you accused me of up there has been inverted by you, either that or your mental processing is skewed

Gbadebo19:
Yes, he has a fan and he has several fans. This isn't about pandering to him or anything. When you see people who are intelligent, acknowledge it. I acknowledge it. He is way way intelligent.
He was the first to tell me about American foreign policy from the 18th century. I never knew that. And many more.

As for you, the only thing you have created is blabbing and asking another to prove your claim of being a lawyer. Na me follow you go school?
O ga ooo

You talk as if I owe you anything

You seem to thirst for mentorship...well you can start by being a good student, which requires humility by default

Gbadebo19:
This shoemaker parading as lawyer again.
If you were worth your salt, he would engage you. He engages me because I am worth my salt. Everyone knows Mr usmanpogo very well on this thread. I can conveniently say there isn't a single person who will pin pointedly say he is biased or takes sides. He is one of the only three people I follow on the whole of Nairaland, not because of anything but because I learn from him. That doesn't mean I will not challenge him if I feel he is wrong.

Don't drag him down to your level. Mr Lawyer that doesn't know he is the one that is supposed to prove a claim.

I thought I was a shoemaker?

Anyways, I don't know what was in what I typed that compelled you to give me your Nairaland history...it seems you're scared he'll take my advice and ditch you, which might inturn make you question your existence

Calm down with the Lawyer thing, on Nairaland, I'm an anonymous poster like you, not a lawyer. So dial down the insecurities

Gbadebo19:
This shoemaker parading as lawyer again.
If you were worth your salt, he would engage you. He engages me because I am worth my salt.

I actually laughed out loud at the bolded...our resident comic

As for the rest, usmanpogo it seems you have a fan...for him to be famzing receiving your attention says a lot

usmanpogo:
You kept shifting the goal post, criticism is supposed to make us do better. Criticizing the NA is not unpatriotic but a measure to set a standard professionalism within our armed forces.
Personally, I believe the Nigerian army is complicit in war crimes, it appears you share other opinion perhaps out of being a patriotic citizens.

We both want the best for the NA, that's all that matters.
I'll leave you with my personal motto, For the love of God and Country.

What's the point of arguing with people who'll never concede to superior arguments? Unless you enjoy endless (read pointless) engagements

🤷🏾‍♂️

Mikasaobi:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-jewish-american-pedophiles-hide-from-justice-in-israel/#


JCW says Karow and other wanted men and women have been able to exploit a right known as the Law of Return, whereby any Jewish person can move to Israel and automatically gain citizenship.

Since the small organization started tracking accused pedophiles in 2014, it says more than 60 have fled from the U.S. to Israel. Given its limited resources to identify these individuals, JCW says the actual number is likely much larger.

The above is from the article. Am sure you’re talking about law of return. And Epstein was a Mossad agent.

Yes

In that country, every vice is a virtue depending on the context

Mikasaobi:
Thanks for calling it like it is. This is not about religion but the sick paedophiles that run the world. This should be bigger than Epstein because toddlers are involved, yet it’s suppressed in the west. It’s really unfortunate most of humanity lose their common sense when it comes to religion or politics. Some believe the paedophiles in the west are doing gods will when they protect Israel so they don’t talk about Epstein. While others believe the chosen ones are blessed no matter the evil they commit. If a god needs evil to do it’s will then that god is evil. A lot of Christians like Turcker Carlson don’t believe the modern Isreal is the same as the one in the bible.

I'd read sometime ago that israel was a choice destination for paedophiles on the run to escape accountability, particularly if they were jewish

Funny you mentioned Epstein, because evidence is growing that he ran a paedophile ring on behalf of mossad, inorder to trap politicians in a web of blackmail. If it does turn out to be true, which I personally think it is, it'll serve as an example of official state endorsement of paedophilia by israel

smh

FoolishBoy419:
Strawmanning

🎯

Gbadebo19:
Haha, dem swear for you ni....
He who asserts must prove. "onus probandi actori incumbit"

That is sacrosanct in law. You claim to be a lawyer, yet you are asking me to be the one to dispute it. You dey craze?

Lawyer wey no know burden of proof.

Pivot to organ harvesting......

When you get called, cc me for well wishes

FoolishBoy419:
I get second-hand embarrassment each time I read this. Imei was merely trying to show you how ridiculous you sound each time you blame Hamas for Israel's barbarism. I don't think a 12 year old would have problems understanding that post

I appreciate what you're doing but I need no one to defend me...I don't care what they think

The fools are desperately trying to infuse meanings to what I said inorder to invalidate my disgust at israel's actions

Unfortunately for them, my moral compass is consistent, I neither look at perpetrator nor victim before deciding to oppose filth...unlike them

Gbadebo19:
See your life in ceremony.
You claim to be a lawyer and they are still educating you on one of the most basic things in law: "burden of proof."

Better pivot into organ harvesting....

I'm a lawyer, you aren't, dispute it if you can

Lawag3:
Jeez don't be such a hypocrite.

The Jews made the Germans commit the Holocaust

The hands of the Germans were forced by the Jews

Hitler was right


Those where your words


Then I ask what is he rigth about to which you answered

Read Mein Kampf.

Shoodboi2 did not understand your post if he did he tried to humanise it water it down from what it truly is.


We you advocate for a genocide do it with your whole chest.

I can't advocate for what's already past i.e. the holocaust

There are only advocates for genocide in Gaza and they know themselves

Hoaxen:
🙌

I'm fine

Remember to quote me on my other accounts too.

Don't worry, you've been noticed

Hoaxen:
You ever heard of the burden of proof?
It states that he who makes the claim must prove the claim.

lol see someone who claims that someone else has a high opinion of himself 👇 Hyping yourself while saying that someone else has a high opinion of himself. 🤡

Gbadebo19 how far?

Also, there's nowhere I hyped myself up in that post...read it again

shoodboi2:
You don't understand and yet, you went on to do the exact same thing he was parodying. The parts in bold are exactly what he was telling you.

The way you think others sound ridiculous when they blame the Jews for what Germany did, is the same way you sound ridiculous when you blame Hamas for what Israel is doing.

You are implying that Hamas forced Israel to kill Palestinians. As in, Hamas forced Israel to commit a genocide and starve Palestinians.

Using your logic, if someone kills you tomorrow, will it make sense to say that you forced the person to kill you?

Not everyone has a sharp wit and intellect, but with the way you easily understood my post, I doff my hat for you

You should understand that for these guys when it comes israel, logic takes a backseat,so you'll end up in a rigmarole

I sha love the fact that the italics guy it seems, might have sleepless nights because of the post

Hoaxen:
And how many of you guys corrected it?

But you guys are quick to "correct" us when we say things that do sit well with your propaganda. Why didn't you correct that claim?

BTW, is this the new coping mechanism by you guys?

Claiming that all those who do not swallow your propaganda are the same person using just one account? 🤡🤡🤡

If the claim gives you guys orgies, yes! I'm Gbadebo19, obedience4 and every other anti tyranny person here.

We are all just one person. And it's sad that just one person with multiple accounts is overpowering many of you guys.

I think Russian, Chinese, Iranian and North Korean ministries of propaganda are overpaying you guys for your crappy services. All of you guys can't defend them against just one guy. So sad 😢 😔

Here's your chance, do the correcting

Well, I never said you're Gbadebo19, I implied you typed like him, which you've done nothing to dispel

At the bolded, seems like something Gbadebo19 would type because the guy has an overly high opinion of himself

Anti-tyranny person indeed

amadivv:
.but how could some questions the sheer scale of 8 million deaths.

The same way you've added 2million more deaths (if you're referring to jewish deaths)

On a serious note, there are holocaust deniers who call it a hoax and then some who say the holocaust was partly enabled by zionists who collaborated with Hitler to force jews to leave for Palestine and they reference the Haavara agreement to support it

Differing opinions exist

FoolishBoy419:
They all suck at pretending 😂

🤭

Hoaxen:
pro Russia

I've only seen one person here suggest something like that and I've forgotten his name

At best what you'll see are posts questioning the severity of it and not outright denials

Hoaxen:
I thought you guys said that the Holocaust never happened? 😒

What changed? 🤡🤡🤡

Who are "you guys"?

Why do you type like Gbadebo19?

FoolishBoy419:
NL bot can never handle what I think about these 'people'

Peace in the Middle East is an illusion with the zionists around

Lawag3:
Okay now I want ask you a question if you don't know you can say you don't know how much aid has this group given to gazans since they were formed.

The group i.e. Gaza Humanitarian Foundation(GHF) is run by US Evangelicals

For those who don't know:

US Evangelicals are the strongest supporters of israel

They support israel taking all of Palestine, as well as the lands of other countries to create greater israel

The Gaza Humanitarian Foundation(GHF) supports the removal of Palestinians from Gaza. Their security have taken active part in shooting Palestinians seeking aid

Evangelicals actively sponsor settlement building in Palestine, they regularly raise funds for the israeli government and the IDF

They scripturally justify the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians from Palestine

They believe that israel taking over all of Palestine and even establishing greater israel will herald Jesus' second coming

They are staunch supporters and collaborators with AIPAC

The GHF which is run by US Evangelicals has repeatedly denied massacres of Palestinians have taken place at their aid centres, this is despite the World Food Programme which is headed by Cindy McCain, wife of the late John McCain, who is a zionist, confirming it

The GHF has ZERO credibility, they're not worth citing at all

Lawag3:
Very strong words from Johnny Moore, Chairman of the Gaza Humanitarian Aid Foundation and one of the leading figures in the Evangelical community in the US:

Hamas sees the humanitarian fund as a threat to their control and sovereignty, and they are trying to do everything to prevent us from doing our work, including threats of violence and actual violence, including attacking our workers.

Despite this, we operate on the ground every day, and the teams provide large quantities of food to residents in need: 90 million meals so far and 50 aid trucks per day, not a single one looted.

Our team is attacked by Hamas, and they operate under difficult conditions and unusual circumstances. We work around the clock to ensure their safety.

Currently, our challenge is even greater because the UN and other organizations are not providing aid themselves where they are supposed to.

In the last two weeks, trucks have been inside the Gaza Strip and are simply stuck there. I warn that all this UN aid is sitting inside the Gaza Strip with all the medicines that will soon expire.

The UN is failing to distribute the aid. No one is preventing them from collecting the aid, and they choose not to do so.

We begged them to do it or to let us help them distribute the food and aid, and they refuse. Every day we ask and have asked.

The head of the World Food Programme, McKeon, was interviewed in CNN and said they are not talking to us.

For weeks I have written to them and requested a meeting, and we want to work with them. There is no time for politics. People are dying. They behave completely opposite to caring for people on the ground. And it’s all because of politics.

Right now, we are the only ones bringing in and distributing large quantities of food to the population in Gaza. It is nowhere near enough. We have provided aid to about half of the population in Gaza. This is an extraordinary success, and we have requested every week to open another distribution center in the north. It is not enough.

Death is increasing there, and we need the UN to bring in food, and we have done everything possible and will do more to help them if only they want, despite all the distortions and false manipulations hurled at us.


The photo below is aid that is going to be distributed to Palestinians


I'm going to ask you questions and you're going to tell me if they are true or false agreed?

Gaza Humanitarian Foundation run by evangelicals who are ultra-zionists and extremely pro-israel

More than 100 International NGOs have called for the scrapping of the so called GHF