tctrills: If they will be judged according to their works and the way they lived, then what is the need for the Gospel of Jesus Christ?
Would you prefer to stand before a Judge to prove your innocence and be open to his fair judgement. Or would you prefer for the president to grant you a presidential pardon? Jesus justifies believe who trust in him alone for salvation and help even in their weaknesses. Good works saves people who lived pious lives with good conscience irrespective of what faith or creed they belong.
Just Imagine how many Cornelius we would have in the world then. What if Cornelius has died before his encounter with Peter? Would you think I will be fair for a just God to send him to the lake of fire with the wicked people? Would that be fair?
IbeOkehie: OK, Malaysia is 35 million, so we can say you can't compare them to Nigeria but my comment CLEARLY shows an emphasis on India. I even highlighted them and explained why I compare them to Nigeria. So on to India....
India has a higher population burden, but you're claiming that their religious monopoly matters more.
So again, the HISTORY AND EVIDENCE show that Indian POLITICAL LEADERS elected by the Indian PEOPLE made deliberate and conscious decisions to CREATE a society with a near homogenous religion.
The same HISTORY AND EVIDENCE clearly show that POLITICAL LEADERS elected by the Nigerian PEOPLE made deliberate and conscious decisions to PRESERVE an extremely diverse nation.
Do you have any views on the facts outlined above? I don't know how you blame anything or anyone for CHOICES clearly made by Nigerians. Also no comment at all on the telecoms history or SAP in general? Hmmmm, that's essential to any evaluation of the Nigeria Crisis.
You understand the essentials and particulars of what a free market economy is about, yet you sometimes put out comments that are completely at odds with that understanding, especially when it comes to the USA. It would be good to find out exactly why. I remember one post where you were condemning enforcement of immigration law. Maybe the importance of CULTURE to the PRACTICE of free markets isn't very clear. Very curious case.
Anyway thanks for this succinct comment, it's completely true in every sense.
Good Luck to Nigeria.
I don't like long epistles. I asked you straight forward question. When did your INDIA appeared on the map or gained independence compared to Nigeria? What is their Language and Religion demography?
IbeOkehie: OK, that's fair. What about Malaysia, India and Indonesia? Though they're not rich countries, they're doing far better than Nigeria for sure. They're very comparable in population, though I'm not sure about their diversity. India has a dominant religion but a diverse ethnic composition, I don't know about Malaysia and Indonesia.
And about diversity, WHO MADE THE DECISION to keep Nigeria united in its diversity? Nigerians freely made that decision, not the British. And the decision was made at the same time other British colonies called India and Malaysia freely decided to SPLIT into less diverse entities. The colonial history of India is so similar to Nigeria that I took the time to visit and travel all over the country and I learned a lot.
Here's something I added to my post, you likely didn't see it before responding
Here's one you need to think about. From the 1950's to 1990's, THE TELECOMS INDUSTRY by law was owned and controlled by government, the ONLY telecoms company was NITEL. At that time, up to 2001, less than 0.1% of Nigerians had phone lines, whether landline or mobile.
In 1986, President Ibrahim Babangida promulgated SAP which legalized private ownership of phone companies, banks, insurance, cocoa trading and broadcasting too. The implementation was slow, but even President Abacha allowed the reforms to continue though he was distracted by political crisis. Then with the return of democracy, President Obasanjo implemented full licensing for private telecoms firms. In less than 15 years, over 60 to 75% of Nigerians have access to phone service . This is live history that we've all lived through.
Any thoughts on the massive change in the telecom industry? How did it happen, what made it possible, what were the principles?
Nigerians have freely made the choices that created the kind of country they want. It's clear that the Nigeria of today is what the Nigerian people PREFER, they like their country exactly the way it is. Their ACTIONS are more important than their VERBAL posturing. It's CULTURE.
Good Luck to Nigerians.
Incomparable bro. India has being in existence for donkey years and they are near mono religion society. Malaysia and Nigeria? What is the population of Malaysia? What is their Language, Ethnic and Religious Demography? ChatGBT is closer to you than you think. No Be Juju Be Dat?
IbeOkehie: What am I supposed to say? Anyhow it might be an attempt at sarcastic humor 😅
Government already owns all lands in Nigeria so the country is already well on the way to prosperity.
Now this a boldly fallacious claim. You really didn't mean this, you meant to say something else. Don't say this in public anywhere.
Slavery existed in Black Africa BEFORE Contact with Whites & Arabs and no White European ever kidnapped or captured any Black African and enslaved them. Every Black person enslaved in the Atlantic Slave Trade was CAPTURED & SOLD by other Black Africans. That is the fact, so if your opinion is so strong on slavery, you might need to explain your view on that particular facet of the issue.
Added to that, the United Kingdom was the FIRST world power to outlaw the Slave trade and most Black Africans REFUSED to obey. Ever heard of Oba Kosoko of Lagos? It's like the trade in illegal narcotics today, it was illegal but Black Africans insisted on selling their own people for money. The British Royal Navy lost hundreds of sailors on the high seas while fighting illegal slave ships. I'm interested in what you have to say about that?
Where is the money that Black African tribes and nations earned from the Slave Trade? What happened to the money, what was it used for? Will Black Africans ever pay reparations to Black Americans whose ancestors were kidnapped, captured and sold into slavery by Black Africans?
South Korea and Singapore took less than 247 years to do it. Maybe 50 years or less. With no bonanza resource like crude oil & natural gas.
Japan resurrected from total defeat with NUCLEAR BOMBING. Didn't take over 247 years.
We could add in Ireland and Poland, though some might argue they have special circumstances of proximity or opportunity.
How did the Blacks of South Africa become the richest Blacks on the Continent after only 25 years of freedom is a worthy question too.
And what has made the USA the greatest country in the world? A simple principle. Ready for it? "GOVERNMENT SHALL NOT "
The United States of America is the ONLY country in the world with foundational laws that permanently restrict the power of government. That is what has made the USA the country it is today. There's NO OTHER COUNTRY that has such laws, if any person knows other nations, please tell me. I've done some searching and I can't find them. And quite beyond the written law, is the CULTURE that sustains it. This is the real & present danger to the USA today, the population is changing and the original tribes who believed in LIMITED GOVERNMENT are slowly becoming a minority and newer immigrants are majorly from 3rd World countries with TRADITIONS of unlimited government power.
Constitution of the United States, Amendment II (1791) A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Note on the 2nd Amendment - at the time it was written, "well regulated" meant "well equipped", just like the world "gay" meant "joy". You can go online and check this yourself.
Constitution of the United States, Amendment I (1791) Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Constitution of the United States, Amendment V (1791) No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
The Constitution in my view isn't strict enough on restraining government, but even as is has worked well to allow the human freedom that is necessary for economic growth and prosperity.
Culture evolves over time. The Anglo-Saxons have evolved a superior culture of restricting government power. That's what you need to know. Here's a primer - Magna Carta: The Medieval Document That Inspired The US Constitution
What is the population of these countries you quoted compared to Nigeria? What is their population demography? Do they have over 360 Ethnic groups and languages? What is their religious demography?
Go and learn Comparative Analysis. You can't compare two things that don't have similarities. No Be Juju Be Dat?
SalamRushdie: You people will never use Dubai for this example , everytime it took USA 247 years
What is the population of Dubai compared with their natural resources? Imagine only Lagos having all the resources in Nigeria for half its current size. One side comparison na bias No Be Juju Be Dat?
tctrills: For no fault of theirs, our ancestors did not hear about Christ or Christianity would they be punished for that or would they be given a second chance?
It is written Timothy 2.3-4 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
Also Romans 10:14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
No one preached to our ancestors so is it the will of God that they also be saved and come to a knowledge of Him?
They will be judged according to their works and the way they lived at the end of the world. Romans 2:11-15. Thanks.
destinychildolu: He won't be so daft to appoint someone caught on camera stuffing dollars in Babariga has party chairman and as chairman of FAAN. What do you think?
Oga rest na. You don repeat this thing like three times. But him go appoint a PANDORA thief as VP baa? No Be Juju Be Dat?
Gbam. The Die is Cast. Atiku has already made it know finally that he will contest for presidency come 2027 dashing any hope of the Obidients that Obu should be the presidential candidate. The Chairman, Secretary and Spokesperson of ADC are all from Atiku and none from Obi. How will you think Obi will be the Presidential candidate sef? No Be Juju Be Dat?
We told them but they will not listen. If you wanna dine with the devil, you must have a very long spoon. You enter coalition and confusion don dey carry una for one chance. Marriage wey no go favor you, you use faith enter am. No Be Juju Be Dat?
citygarden: Diamond ring part1, oluwa loni ile, story by moon light, I need to know, So wrong, so Wright, Flat mate, domitila, owo blow, Jakie chan ( snake in the monkey shadow) etc
You no add twins warrior, koto orun, koto aiye, state of emergency, commando, Rambo etc. e plenty ooo. How this thing evolved overnight. No Be Juju Be Dat?
Fiscus105: Any room where there is videotape then, 3 things most likely in that house.
1. Bed bugs would be their regular customers.
2. It attracts thieves.
3. If you are a bachelor, it was a charm to sleep with variety of girls.
Today, every Genz has his/her choice of films on his/her phone and laptop.
Some of you just use the word "ONLY" anyhow. Some of us were born in the early 90s and we can relate even more than you cos my house self na all comers.
nairalandankrah: The Federal Government has stated its willingness to negotiate the release of Nnamdi Kanu , the detained leader of the Indigenous People of Biafra, IPOB.
Minister of Works, Senator Dave Umahi , stated this on Friday night while addressing journalists in Lagos.
Next Year VAT allocation go too sweet. Some states wey dey chop awoof before go even dey borrow from other states wey dey attract investments and are more accommodating. Na why them wan komot Jagaban na because if that man enter second term, true federalism is inevitable. Na why we go support am make e enter. No baga go stop Federalism before 2031 when another region go enter. How Monkey go dey work, Baboon go dey chop?
specialmati: so supporting a man that emptied all his bullion vans to grab power is a nice thing to you.so all the people that want Nigeria to work are not positive right how you guys reason should be a case study
Lol... Na person wey no dey give "shishi" go make naija work? Maybe na Anambra be una own definition of work Sha. Me, I no want that kind "work" for naija ooo. Make naija dey as e dey like dis abeg.
So, Aisha too wants to play dirty politics in the mud? She also want to play the politics of using people? I thought it's only APC that play that kind of "use people" politics. So, why blame TINUBU for using El RUFAI, Ganduje and Shetima?
specialmati: then how do you expect a man with bullion vans to asorock to make Nigeria a better country.abi you dont want a government to will make life better for you instead of running after buses at bus stops to feed
Guy. My life is far better than 3 years ago and other years back. Every government na two edged sword; it favors some and not to the others.
safarifarms: Yes he was zealous. My verdict that he was ignorant is inferred. He was a master in the law and what he did was according to the law. What else did he know at the time. Most of the Jews till date are still waiting for the Messiah. They don't believe Jesus is the Messiah. They are still persecuting Christians. By their understanding Christ and Christians are law breakers. Their interpretation of the prophecy of the Messiah is of one that will be a reigning king with a Kingdom of this world, not one who will die a shameful death on the cross (meant for criminals).
1 Cor 1:23 23but we proclaim Christ crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles,
What an interesting derailment to the gospel.
But you left the major point which was that Tinubu knew but choose to do otherwise which the bible calls evil.
We were using simile with the life of Paul. How did you know TINUBU knew that removing subsidy was a good decision for Nigeria as at 2012? Because as at 2012 I am not of that opinion but later in 2017 I knew. Time changes opinion.
Remember, TINUBU advised Buhari to print more money then but now he hates printing money.
Did Trump go to court for the court to declare him the winner?
I think the question is now simpler for you
I think your question should be directed to those who went to court and still lost (Obi/Atiku). I think they will be better answering the questions. Maybe that's why I am unable to answer the question. You can't be ask me about Islam, I will direct you to the Muslims because I am not in the position to answer. Channel that question to Obidients and Atikulates.
specialmati: others they enter asorock with bag,it get to una agbero chairman time .him carry bullion vans enter.how person with bullion vans wan take look your face.always be at busstops early to see something chop ooh
From bags to bullion van? Na levels be dat ooo. Maybe never election we go upgrade to "Money Minting Machine (MMM). Abi u no think so?
Uchesis: That is one of our problems in this country.
Millions of Nigerians will vote, yet 5 persons will determine the outcome of the result.
Have you ever heard that the winner of any US elections was determined by a US court?
USA? 1. Have you not heard that the Democrats never believed the outcome of the 2016 election? They believe it was rigged with the influence of the Russian government.
2. Didn't you hear that Trump and the Republicans believed the 2020 election was rigged by the Democrats which led to the infamous riot at the Capitol in 2020?
Losers will always complain while winners will always explain. It's a back and forth that will continue forever. Let it sink.
safarifarms: I think the case of Paul is quite different. Paul did what he did (the persecution) out of ignorance and he pursued it with strong conviction that he was doing the right thing (the work of God). And when Paul saw the light, he now pursued the truth with the same vigour.
However, in this case we are talking about a politician who knew the truth that subsidy was not right but instead of supporting it's removal, he deliberately used the removal as a weapon, deceived his ignorant followers and urged them to protest saying that subsidy wasn't a problem but the problem was corruption. They should remove corruption but not subsidy. Mind you the corruption was also being tackled. Many marketers were being investigated (not sure they got to prosecution yet at the time).
I find it hard to support a man who saw what was right and won't support it, instead deceived people to support what was wrong just for his personal selfish interest. And I will blame Tinubu much more than Buhari because aside from being the one who bankrolled the protest, he is an accountant and understands very well what he was doing. Buhari may not have understood it and may have just believed what Tinubu was saying. So 13 years later, he now removes the subsidy abruptly causing serious ripple effects to the masses that he claimed he was protecting when he was protesting against Jonathan. The man is too greedy and wicked.
James 4:17 (Message Translation) As it is, you are full of your grandiose selves. All such vaunting self-importance is evil. In fact, if you know the right thing to do and don’t do it, that, for you, is evil.
Same man was upset and against Buhari's cashless policy which was already beginning to cripple kidnapping in the country, just because it threatened his vote buying election plans. His supporters quickly got in action and got the courts to frustrate the policy. Today kidnapping has taken a terrible turn and Nigerians are bleeding.
I will expect every Nigeria who reasons far not to support such a man. It's always more about his personal interest 1st.
We can't be sure Paul did what he did out of ignorance. The only thing the scriptures pointed at was that he was zealous for the law. I may be zealous for my tribe against other tribes and persecute them, that doesn't mean I did it out of ignorance, but when I repent I will only tell the people that it was time of ignorance. Didn't his conscience prick on him when they were stoning Stephen? Paul's case was zealous not ignorance.
I watched the live interview. He said: 1. He is the most competent to run for presidency. 2. People over 70years has no locus to run for presidency. (Atiku comes to mind) 3. Power must be retained in the South to complete eight years. Anything order than that, he will not subscribe. (Atiku comes to mind) 4. He will only serve for 4 years and nothing more. (Obi comes to mind) 5. They are still working on registering ADA in case ADC fails. ( I doubt wat 'if ADC fails really mean).
My Thoughts: Many of the Coalition members are ambitious either for presidency or for vice president. Atiku interested in being president and nothing less. Obi wants to be president or at least VP. Ameachi wants to be president or at least VP. El Rufai wants to be VP to a Southerner.
Clash of Ambition could spell doom for the new marriage. Sacrifices need to be made but the question is: Can they be like TINUBU in 2014 when he was made to shelve his VP ambition because of the Muslim Muslim ticket that wanted to swallow the new APC at the time?
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Fate Of Our Ancestors Who Did Not Hear The Word Of God by immaculatesense(m): 7:56pm On Jul 06, 2025
