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I found a snakeskin under a log. While strolling near our home. The thing is we just had a ritual worship at the forest serpent grove a while back with the family. I wanted to take it back with me to Abu Dhabi. But my uncle noticed and made me leave it far away from our home in the bush.


First time I saw him so angry and frightful. Although the villagers was laughing at me, they was a bit scared to. Twas found between ours and our neighbors home. Its a shed molted skin. The snake was probably still lurking around there somewhere.

Godgay:
so how many gods do u guys have?,I don't like polytheism

You are gay so obviously you like only men.

But yeah as to your question. There are infinite Gods. There are as many spiritual forces you know and affect your life and to whom you direct worship and direct sacrifice.

orunto27:
GOD in the Abrahamic expression is the ALL POWERFUL SPIRIT BEING. Thesame goes for Hinduism. Who is then a Pagan? My Dictionary defines a Pagan as one who is neither Jewish, Christian nor Mohammedan. These three are abrahamic, who, like the Hindus believe in the all powerful spirit being. What then is Paganism, if not athiestism in its naive stage?

But abrahamists are monotheists. We Pagans are Polytheists. And follow an ethnic non-proselytizing religion.

Godgay:
so the Hindu gods ride on elephant,which according to your teachings in Hinduism is the substainer of the earth,is that palatable with the Hindu religion?

Not all Gods. And this is not that elephant which you are referring to (Lord Ganesha) who has certain identifying marks on its personage (e.g. 1 broken tusk, serpent belt on belly, special weapons, human body, etc.) As its idol. That is the God of wisdom.

Lord Indra in Hindu Mythology is depicted riding the elephant like creature called Airavata. It is a mythological beast.

Airavata is a mythological white elephant who carries the Hindu God Indra. It is also called 'abhra-Matanga', meaning "elephant of the clouds"; 'Naga-malla', meaning "the fighting elephant"; and 'Arkasodara', meaning "brother of the sun".Abhramu' is the elephant wife of Airavata. Airavata has ten tusks and five trunks and is spotless white. It is also known as Erawan in Thai. Airavata is also the third son of Kashyap and Kadru. In the Mahabharata he is listed as a great serpent.

"GOD"

The English word “GOD” does not translate to the (hindu() concept of the Supreme. It dose not fit the (hindu) the ruling principles of nature which the ( hindu's) call DEVA's or Paramatman.

This comes from a misunderstanding of (hindu) Devatha's,for/as "god"s.

eg Varuna deva,Vayu Deva,Indra Deva Surya deva, Vana devatha ect (the five elements,their manifestations and different forces in nature,their manifestations (which runs to 33 koti,/million) who are responsible for the running of the universe.. are called Deva's in (Hindusim)
There is a fundamental difference between the Abrahamic GOD and (hindu) Devatha's and Paramathman.
“GOD” in the Abrahamic expression,is the ALL POWERFUL BEING,who has CREATED the world,runs it and is an independent signal Being/ Entity.
He is the SUPREME BEING who rewards and punishes man in accordance with his laid down code of conduct and promises a heaven or hell after death.

While In (hinduism)
The universe (along with all the Deva's) is a MANIFESTATION of the Paramathman
Param= primary, first, -Athma.=soul ( it is not a BEING, it is the Spirit /Energy)
Means the supreme soul, and all souls have come from it.
Therefore they say MAN ( Jeevathman) and Paramathman (Supreme) are ONE and the SAME.
There is no one here,punishing or rewarding man,everyone gets the fruit of their own actions they call KARMA.
Thus for (Hinduism ) does not have a “GOD”
It talks of Swarga, some thing similar to heaven, ruled by Deva Indra (Lord Indra King of the Gods) (king of the senses, materialistic pleasures )which again is not the ultimate goal of the (hindu).In fact it is considered a Zone of temptation which a spiritual aspirant needs to bypass to reach the ultimate they call MUKTHI (salvation). Yet spiritual aspirtation is a choice.

Trying to understand their (hindu) culture through a foreign language,which lacks the words (as it lacks the concept) is crippling even the (hindu's) understanding.
More so these days as they not only study it through English (but they even THINK in English) which misleads them from it's fundamental truth.

By Dharma Somashekar

deloon:

You are an Ifa worshipper? That's interesting.
How did you come about the religion? Is it practised in India?

Nope. But its similar to our religions.

WeissMaganti:

What does jihad mean? did your ancestors not kill and pilage and enslave? it was the 1800s dumbo, everyone was guilty of that.

No they didnt. And DEIFINITELY not in the name of religion.

Eitherways we must not celebrate criminals whether its my ancestors or yours.

No one has ever linked him to the prophet, this is the first im hearing of this.

Kindly read the article. Where connections have been postulated.

lol! if by that you mean the empire of selfish kings and oppressors who the hausa peasants helped the fulas chase out, then i fail to see your point. besides, his jihad united the divided hausa states. was that not a good thing?

Stop your wikipedia nonsense. Go read the works of actual scholars. Btw the Hausa states were united though ruling separately similar to todays Fulani kingdoms. They were all descendants of a common progenitor. Also Sarkin Yunfa gained the help of adjacent Hausa states prior to losing the battle against the Fulanim . There is also a story of trrachery and deceit attached. Kindly read up.

No sane person will support a foreigner to displace his own tribes rulers. Thats dumb way to reason.

DAURA, the original and true hausa state and kingdom, is still ruled by HRH Sarki Umar Faruk, descendant of bayajidda and a true hausa man. there are various powerful kingdoms in nigeria still led by hausas, what do you mean by small villages?

Im glad to know you follow PAGAN9JA's works but remember he himself is a Hausa Pagan Traditionalist. Not a muslim.

Daura and Argungu are the last strongholds. The rest of the rulers from important states like Kano etc. Were exiled to Abuja and mostly to Niger republic where they still preserve Hausa religious elements and customs.

hausa civilization according to the kano chronicles began around the 7th to 10th century, fulas were present as setllers even early as the 12th century. Dan fodio is one of those settlers, who grew up in hausa land.

Dan fodios roots lie in Futa Djlon. The Fulani are not settled people but nomads. Nomads are not indigenous.

Evil? the only evil i see here is a shameless indian trying to divide and stir up sentiments amongst people that have lived together peacefully for hundreds of years.

Kindly watch your words you boko haram/taliban savage.
I have seen enough peaceful lies everyday on the news.

oooh shuut up you indian bufffooon. go worship a pig or a cow or something and stay the fvck out of our affairs.

I will report you. Im not the type who makes fun of people who worshipand kisses black stones etc. So i will just do as Nairaland asked and report you for abusing me.

carinmom:


What concerns an Indian with Hausa culture?
why take Panadol for another man's headache?
The Hausa have never complained and you are here spewing nonsense over something that is none of your biz.

That is none of your business. I will take headache for whomsoever I please.

You would not have said the same if I was here defending muslims or Fulanis.


Do you represent the entire Hausa nation? And also the Igbos , Yorubas, Adamawans, Middle Belters etc who lost their lives to the Fulani rampage?

He was not a great sheikh!


Why is it that Africans have this habit of worshipping their oppressors?

Dont you know that dan fodio was an oppressor, jihadist and slave trader?


Dont you know that dan fodio is a direct descendant of Fulani cattle herders from Futa Djlon? And not some imaginery prophet muhammad link.

Dont you know that Dan Fodio destroyed the great HAUSA NIGERIAN EMPIRE and culture?

Dont you know that the REAL Hausa rulers are languishing in exile as small village heads on the borders of Niger Republic while the colonist descendants of foreign cow herds are ammassing the wealth of Nigeria whilst imposing strict barbaric laws in the North?

Dont you know that Dan Fodio was the cause of savage Fulani marauders gaining entry into Nigeria and wrecking the lives of millions of Nigerians to date?


Why is it that some muslims have this habit of supporting evil in all forms , even if its against their own people?

Why is it that some muslims take pride in reasoning like sheeple and zombie?

Remii:
I guess Queen of England is outdated too, or is it only that of Africa that is wrong?

Kings are cool

Kings in this age? But its cool.

wealth123:
How can you come here to denounce Christianity and take pride in worshiping those dumb idols pictured here? You are worshiping metals and idols made by your ancestors. This is the height of foolishness and confusion. You are indian and claim freedom from poverty when indian is the home of poverty. How can you be so naive and deceived to believe in those ugly idols and even bow to them in worship. I pity your ignorance and pray that God will deliver you in Jesus name.

The idols are not worshipped but the Gods they represent . No one worships idols. Only hypocrite xtians lyk u worship idols and crucifix of a dead jewish man called jesus. Ur jesus is ugly af. Ugly and looks lyk a bleeding devil with thorns and pins sticking out of his body like a horror movie scene. Your ignorance will kill you. No wonder your country is backward and uncivilized because you have abandoned the Gods of our ancestors. Learn from Japan , India etc.

You people are so shameless , you bow to the diety and ideology of the very same people who enslave and r.aped relations of your ancestors. But you can continue to defend your bondage.

Btw I guess you are either blind or illiterate. I clearly spoke about my own tribe and not all Indians. That culture is only for my tribe and my region. If you show me 1 poor person or beggar in my tribe , I will chop of my left index finger and present it to you.

And soeaking of India being poor, we can buy off your entire country with our wealth if we had to. India is progressing you have never seen our countrys state of affairs in recent years . We have invented the numeric system we have reached The Moon and are planing to explore Mars. We have developed our indigenous nuclear weapons. We have incorporate metro system and are gradually replacing the old railways. Some of the top 10 richest people in the world are Indians . The first covilizations and universities in the world were built in India. Many Nigerians come and study in Indian universities including the one In currently studying in. So see your position before making tall claims first.

HarkymTheOracle:


Thron is actually a Benin Republic god,not Yoruba.. my dad collected it after confirming its powers first-hand.. it is d main god in our house... its also called mega-kounde,papa-kounde,Abiafu,Aminima.. i think meta-tron is its english name.

Are you sure? It seems to be an innovation. But neverthless as long as you offer prayers to the Gods it is well.

Btw what do you mean by "collected it". I think you are referring to the idol representing the diety because the God itself cannot be "collected". It is an intangible spiritual force.

Daniel058:
This man, from which ever place you are from, whatever you said will come to fulfilment in your life,, u believe in gods , I believe in the Almighty God..

I believe in GODS and you believe in a dead jewish man.

akinladejo:



Oh boi this is too harsh, why are u causing the lad? If they don't kill snake from where u come from does that mean they must not kill snake in another place? All the prayers u said above will also come to u too in jesus name say amen!

Do as you please and suffer from your bad karma. I have had my say.

HarkymTheOracle:

I have a shrine in my house.. my father's shrine (now mine,as he's late).. and i pray there every morning.. everybody in my neighbourhood see us (in my house) as sinners.. and these church members wil keep screaming "blood of Jesus" whenever they see us performing our rituals... the name of our god is Thron.. maybe you've heard about it.. and d shrine is usually located in the house of d person who owns it... i even have anoda god inside my room that we yoruba's call elegba beside my Ifa.. we also have Ogun (god of iron), Esu, Obatala (aka d king of white cloth),bangere,Zakara and some other gods... in my house
So am not an hypocrite..i practice what i preach..

Oh thats really awesome . Keep it up! GODS BLESS!

Yorubas are best at preserving traditional religion.

Btw which God is Thron? First time i hear although i have heard of the others you mentioned.

HarkymTheOracle:


True that.. i personally believe in the African Traditional Religion..

Its not about belief but about practice.

How many times in your life have you visited a shrine?


Im not even asking for this month. But in a lifetime?!


I hate thia lazy attitude of African freethinkers. Their head is in the right direction but they simply refuse to act.

I believe christianity has always been a scam.

1 of the 2 religions that has given the concept of spirituality a bad name.


The world has no future until she returns to the pure devotion and worship directed to the GODS .

The abrahamic religions always use deception to plunge the world into immorality and inhumanity.



I do not blame the pastor but the foolish masses who throng to these dens of demons to pay homage to the symbol of their colonized minds.


There was a time when I would have blamed it on uneducation and illiteracy. But now Im wiser.


Even the uneducated illiterate people and farmers in the villages are the wiser for having stuck to the pure simple faith of their ancestors.


Its not education but lack of wisdom and sheep mentality that has brought about the religious crisis, the world over.


Its really a pity when I see educated people in high positions succumbing to this degree of foolishness.


So next time , before you call your elders in the village who are struggling to save their ancestors spiritual heritage as "witches and wizards" , kindly Think Twice

I am Indian and I follow the tribal religion of my ancestors (different from mainstream Vedic Hinduism) and I thank the Gods of my forefathers for giving me and my fellow tribespeople , a good, stable and a fruitful lifestyle inculcated with morals and values sufficient for our progress as human beings, devoid of religious fanaticsm and lunacy . But filled with cultural pride and nationalism.
I am proud to say that my tribe has 0 poverty and 100% progress by the grace of our Gods.



I am Proud to be BORN PAGAN .


Pics from my traditional religion:

Let her do what she pleases. and she is not the Goddess. she is probably a shrine priestess there.

^Please thats false. Many Siddis arose to high ranks in armies of Indian Imperial Kingdoms. E.g. Siddi Jauhar , etc who were officers in the Moghul Army. Some Siddis even formed their own independent Kingdoms and built huge forts such as the Siddis of Janjira and Jaffarabad State. The remaining Siddis migrated into the forests and became adivasi tribes. Their numbers are too small however they are granted special status by the Indian government of ST (Scheduled Tribes) even though they are not aboriginal. Under this provision they have reservation in both education and job sector. Dont run your mouth unnecessairly about issues you havent encountered yourself. U black racist are only good at whining but cant do any realistic move to emancipate yourselves. Heck you even treat your own people, especially your women loke shyt. Gods curse on u

If you are treated by foreigners badly in your own turf then you are just plain dumb. Gerrit?

And though I detest Gandhi for political reasons, Gandhi was a far cry from racist. Even Nelson Mandela and Martin Luther King Jr. Claimed Gandhi as their source of inspiration for non violent satyagraha movement against white supremacy. Gandhi even led a series of protests against colonial authorities in South Africa.


Moreover Gandhi was NOT from an aristocratic family. He belonged to Vaishya (trader/merchant) caste and his father was just a dewan in a Princely state.

Below: General Malik Ambar improved guerrilla warfare tactics in the Deccan peninsula of India.

Code45:


So you didn't see the cloth he puts on in the first pic? Can a Yoruba man wear that on his wedding?

but why was he wearing a Yoruba cap in the other pics?

are they Yorubas or Igbos?

Wow

I heard his ancestors were originally islamic fanatics and cowherds

maxti:
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Op
What's ur connection?
#suspect

What do you mean by connection? I am a worshipper of Ifa.

What is your connection to your pastor or imam?

Pangolin

Im a virgin and I deserve a virgin.

sLentlover7778:

The only Lord I know is Jesus Christ..

A dead man. An idol.

sLentlover7778:
The name of the state says it all... no wonder

Dont insult the Lord Ogun if you know whats good for you.