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CHAP. XXXII.

Adam and Eve go into the water to pray.


AND Adam and Eve remained in the Cave
of Treasures until the seventh day; they
neither ate of the fruit of the earth, nor
drank water.
2 And when it dawned on the eighth day,
Adam said to Eve, "O Eve, we prayed God
to give us somewhat from the garden, and
He sent His angels who brought us what
we had desired.
3 "But now, arise, let us go to the sea of
water we saw at first, and let us stand in it,
praying that God will again be favourable
to us and take us back to the garden; or
give us something; or that He will give us
comfort in some other land than this in
which we are."
4 Then Adam and Eve came out of the
cave, went and stood on the border of the
sea in which they had before thrown
themselves, and Adam said to Eve:--
5 "Come, go down into this place, and
come not out of it until the end of thirty
days, when I shall come to thee. And pray
to God with fervent heart and a sweet
voice, to forgive us.
6 "And I will go to another place, and go
down into it, and do like thee."
7 Then Eve went down into the water, as
Adam had commanded her. Adam also
went down into the water; and they stood
praying; and besought the Lord to forgive
them their offence, and to restore them to
their former state.
8 And they stood thus praying, unto the
end of the five-and-thirty days.

Next: Chapter XXXIII

CHAP. XXXI.

They make themselves more comfortable
in the Cave of Treasures on the third day .


AFTER these things God said unto Adam,
"Thou didst ask of Me something from the
garden, to be comforted therewith, and I
have given thee these three tokens as a
consolation to thee; that thou trust in Me
and in My covenant with thee.
2 "For I will come and save thee; and
kings shall bring me when in the flesh,
gold, incense and myrrh; gold as a token
of My kingdom; incense as a token of My
divinity; and myrrh as a token of My
suffering and of My death.
3 "But, O Adam, put these by thee in the
cave; the gold that it may shed light over
thee by night; the incense, that thou smell
its sweet savour; and the myrrh, to
comfort thee in thy sorrow."
4 When Adam heard these words from
God, he worshipped
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before Him. He and Eve worshipped Him
and gave Him thanks, because He had
dealt mercifully with them.
5 Then God commanded the three angels,
Michael, Gabriel and Raphael, each to
bring what he had brought, and give it to
Adam. And they did so, one by one.
6 And God commanded Suriyel and
Salathiel to bear up Adam and Eve, and
bring them down from the top of the high
mountain, and to take them to the Cave of
Treasures.
7 There they laid the gold on the south
side of the cave, the incense on the eastern
side, and the myrrh on the western side.
For the mouth of the cave was on the north
side.
8 The angels then comforted Adam and
Eve, and departed.
9 The gold was seventy rods; the incense,
twelve pounds; and the myrrh, three
pounds.
10 These remained by Adam in the House
of Treasures; therefore was it called "of
concealment." But other interpreters say it
was called the "Cave of Treasures," by
reason of the bodies of righteous men that
were in it.
11 These three things did God give to
Adam, on the third day after he had come
out of the garden, in token of the three
days the Lord should remain in the heart of
the earth.
12 And these three things, as they
continued with Adam in the cave, gave him
light by night; and by day they gave him a
little relief from his sorrow.


Next: Chapter XXXII

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CHAP. 30


Adam receives the first worldly goods .


AFTER these things, God commanded the
angel Gabriel to go down to the garden,
and say to the cherub who kept it, "Behold,
God has commanded me to come into the
garden, and to take thence sweet smelling
incense, and give it to Adam."
2 Then the angel Gabriel went down by
God's order to the garden, and told the
cherub as God had commanded him.
3 The cherub then said, "Well." And
Gabriel went in and took the incense.
4 Then God commanded His angel Raphael
to go down to the garden, and speak to the
cherub about some myrrh, to give to
Adam.
5 And the angel Raphael went down and
told the cherub as God had commanded
him, and the cherub said, "Well." Then
Raphael went in and took the myrrh.
6 The golden rods were from the Indian
sea, where there are precious stones. The
incense was from the eastern border of the
garden; and the myrrh from the western
border, whence bitterness came upon
Adam.
7 And the angels brought these three
things to God, by the Tree of Life, in the
garden.
8 Then God said to the angels, "Dip them
in the spring of water; then take them and
sprinkle their water over Adam and Eve,
that they be a little comforted in their
sorrow, and give them to Adam and Eve.
9 And the angels did as God had
commanded them, and they gave all those
things to Adam and Eve on the top of the
mountain upon which Satan had placed
them, when he sought to make an end of
them.
10 And when Adam saw the golden rods,
the incense and the myrrh, he was rejoiced
and wept because he thought that the gold
was a token of the kingdom whence he
had come, that the incense was a token of
the bright light which had been taken from
him, and that the myrrh was a token of the
sorrow in which he was.

CHAP. 30
Adam receives the first worldly goods .

AFTER these things, God commanded the angel Gabriel to go down to the garden, and say to the cherub who kept it, "Behold, God has commanded me to come into the garden, and to take thence sweet smelling incense, and give it to Adam." 2 Then the angel Gabriel went down by God's order to the garden, and told the cherub as God had commanded him. 3 The cherub then said, "Well." And Gabriel went in and took the incense. 4 Then God commanded His angel Raphael to go down to the garden, and speak to the cherub about some myrrh, to give to Adam. 5 And the angel Raphael went down and told the cherub as God had commanded him, and the cherub said, "Well." Then Raphael went in and took the myrrh. 6 The golden rods were from the Indian sea, where there are precious stones. The incense was from the eastern border of the garden; and the myrrh from the western border, whence bitterness came upon Adam. 7 And the angels brought these three things to God, by the Tree of Life, in the garden. 8 Then God said to the angels, "Dip them in the spring of water; then take them and sprinkle their water over Adam and Eve, that they be a little comforted in their sorrow, and give them to Adam and Eve. 9 And the angels did as God had commanded them, and they gave all those things to Adam and Eve on the top of the mountain upon which Satan had placed them, when he sought to make an end of them. 10 And when Adam saw the golden rods, the incense and the myrrh, he was rejoiced and wept because he thought that the gold was a token of the kingdom whence he had come, that the incense was a token of the bright light which had been taken from him, and that the myrrh was a token of the sorrow in which he was.

CHAP. XXIX.

God tells Adam of the Devil's purpose. (v.
4).


BUT when the merciful God saw that Satan
wished to kill Adam with his manifold
devices, and saw that Adam was meek and
without guile, God spake unto Satan in a
loud voice, and cursed him.
2 Then he and his hosts fled, and Adam
and Eve remained standing on the top of
the mountain, whence they saw below
them the wide world, high above which
they were. But they saw none of the host
which anon were by them.
3 They wept, both Adam and Eve, before
God, and begged for forgiveness of Him.
4 Then came the Word from God to Adam,
and said unto him, "Know thou and
understand concerning this Satan, that he
seeks to deceive thee and thy seed after
thee."
5 And Adam wept before the Lord God, and
begged and entreated Him to give him
something from the garden, as a token to
him, wherein to be comforted.
6 And God looked upon Adam's thought,
and sent the angel Michael as far as the
sea that reaches unto India, to take
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from thence golden rods and bring them to
Adam.
7 This did God in His wisdom, in order that
these golden rods, being with Adam in the
cave, should shine forth with light in the
night around him, and put an end to his
fear of the darkness.
8 Then the angel Michael went down by
God's order, took golden rods, as God had
commanded him, and brought them to
God.


Next: Chapter 30

CHAP. XXVIII

The Devil pretends to lead Adam and Eve
to the water to bathe.


BUT when the wily Satan saw them, that
they were going to the garden, he gathered
together his host, and came in appearance
upon a cloud, intent on deceiving them.
2 But when Adam and Eve saw him thus in
a vision, they thought they were angels of
God come to comfort them about their
having left the garden, or to bring them
back again into it.
3 And Adam spread his hands unto God,
beseeching Him to make him understand
what they were.
4 Then Satan, the hater of all good, said
unto Adam, "O Adam, I am an angel of the
great God; and, behold the hosts that
surround me.
5 "God has sent me and them to take thee
and bring thee to the border of the garden
northwards; to the shore of the clear sea,
and bathe thee and Eve in it, and raise you
to your former gladness, that ye return
again to the garden."
6 These words sank into the heart of Adam
and Eve.
7 Yet God withheld His Word from Adam,
and did not make him understand at once,
but waited to see his strength; whether he
would be overcome as Eve was when in
the garden, or whether he would prevail.
8 Then Satan called to Adam and Eve, and
said, "Behold, we go to the sea of water,"
and they began to go.
9 And Adam and Eve followed them at
some little distance.
10 But when they came to the mountain to
the north of the garden, a very high
mountain, without any steps to the top of
it, the Devil drew near to Adam and Eve,
and made them go up to the top in reality,
and not in a vision; wishing, as he did, to
throw them down and kill them, and to
wipe off their name from the earth; so that
this earth should remain to him and his
hosts alone.

Next: Chapter XXIX

CHAP. XXVII.

The second tempting of Adam and Eve.
The devil takes on the form of a beguiling
light .


WHEN Satan, the hater of all good, saw
how they continued in prayer, and how
God communed with them, and comforted
them, and how He had accepted their
offering--Satan made an apparition.
2 He began with transforming his hosts; in
his hands was a flashing fire, and they
were in a great light.
3 He then placed his throne near the
mouth of the cave because he could not
enter into it by reason of their prayers.
And he shed light into the cave, until the
cave glistened over Adam and Eve; while
his hosts began to sing praises.
4 And Satan did this, in order that when
Adam saw the light, he should think within
himself that it was a heavenly light, and
that Satan's hosts were angels; and that
God had sent them to watch at the cave,
and to give him light in the darkness.
5 So that when Adam came out of the cave
and saw them, and Adam and Eve bowed
to Satan, then he would overcome Adam
thereby, and a second time humble him
before God.
6 When, therefore, Adam and Eve saw the
light, fancying it was real, they
strengthened their hearts; yet, as they
were trembling, Adam said to Eve:--
7 "Look at that great light, and at those
many songs of praise, and at that host
standing outside that do not come in to us,
do not tell us what they say, or whence
they come, or what is the meaning of this
light; what those praises are; wherefore
they have been sent hither, and why they
do not come in.
8 "If they were from God, they would come
to us in the cave, and would tell us their
errand."
9 Then Adam stood up and prayed unto
God with a fervent heart, and said:--
10 "O Lord, is there in the world another
god than Thou, who created angels and
filled them with light, and sent them to
keep us, who would come with them?
11 "But, lo, we see these hosts that stand
at the mouth of the cave; they are in a
great light; they sing loud praises. If they
are of some other god than Thou, tell me;
and if they are sent by Thee, inform me of
the reason for which Thou hast sent
them."
12 No sooner had Adam said this, than an
angel from God appeared unto him in the
cave, who said unto him, "O Adam, fear
not. This is Satan and his hosts; he
wishes to deceive you as he deceived you
at first. For the first time, he was hidden in
the serpent; but this time he is come to
you in the similitude of an angel of light; in
order that, when you worshipped him, he
might enthrall you, in the very presence of
God."
13 Then the angel went from Adam, and
seized Satan at the opening of the cave,
and stripped him of the feint he had
assumed, and brought him in his own
hideous form to Adam and Eve; who were
afraid of him when they saw him.
14 And the angel said to Adam, "This
hideous form has been his ever since God
made him fall from heaven. He could not
have come near you in it; therefore did he
transform himself into an angel of light."
15 Then the angel drove away Satan and
his hosts from Adam and Eve, and said
unto them, "Fear not; God who created
you, will strengthen you."
16 And the angel went from them.
17 But Adam and Eve remained
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standing in the cave; no consolation came
to them; they were divided in their
thoughts.
18 And when it was morning they prayed;
and then went out to seek the garden. For
their hearts were towards it, and they
could get no consolation for having left it.


Next: Chapter XXVIII

CHAP. XXVI.

A beautiful prophecy of eternal life and joy
(v. 15). The fall of night.


THEN Adam took Eve, and they began to
return to the Cave of Treasures where they
dwelt. But when they neared
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it and saw it from afar, heavy sorrow fell
upon Adam and Eve when they looked at
it.
2 Then Adam said to Eve, "When we were
on the mountain we were comforted by the
Word of God that conversed with us; and
the light that came from the east, shone
over us.
3 "But now the Word of God is hidden from
us; and the light that shone over us is so
changed as to disappear, and let darkness
and sorrow come upon us.
4 "And we are forced to enter this cave
which is like a prison, wherein darkness
covers us, so that we are parted from each
other; and thou canst not see me, neither
can I see thee."
5 When Adam had said these words, they
wept and spread their hands before God;
for they were full of sorrow.
6 And they entreated God to bring the sun
to them, to shine on them, so that
darkness return not upon them, and they
come not again under this covering of
rock. And they wished to die rather than
see the darkness.
7 Then God looked upon Adam and Eve
and upon their great sorrow, and upon all
they had done with a fervent heart, on
account of all the trouble they were in,
instead of their former well-being, and on
account of all the misery that came upon
them in a strange land.
8 Therefore God was not wroth with them;
nor impatient with them; but He was
longsuffering and forbearing towards them,
as towards the children He had created.
9 Then came the Word of God to Adam,
and said unto him, "Adam, as for the sun,
if I were to take it and bring it to thee,
days, hours, years and months would all
come to naught, and the covenant I have
made with thee, would never be fulfilled.
10 "But thou shouldest then be turned and
left in a long plague, and no salvation
would be left to thee for ever.
11 "Yea, rather, bear long and calm thy
soul while thou abidest night and day;
until the fulfilment of the days, and the time
of My covenant is come.
12 "Then shall I come and save thee, O
Adam, for I do not wish that thou be
afflicted.
13 "And when I look at all the good things
in which thou didst live, and why thou
camest out of them, then would I willingly
show thee mercy.
14 "But I cannot alter the covenant that
has gone out of My mouth; else would I
have brought thee back into the garden.
15 "When, however, the covenant is
fulfilled, then shall I show thee and thy
seed mercy, and bring thee into a land of
gladness, where there is neither sorrow
nor suffering; but abiding joy and
gladness, and light that never fails, and
praises that never cease; and a beautiful
garden that shall never pass away."
16 And God said again unto Adam, "Be
long-suffering and enter the cave, for the
darkness, of which thou wast afraid, shall
only be twelve hours long; and when
ended, light shall arise."
17 Then when Adam heard these words
from God, he and Eve worshipped before
Him, and their hearts were comforted. They
returned into the cave after their custom,
while tears flowed from their eyes, sorrow
and wailing came from their hearts, and
they wished their soul would leave their
body.
18 And Adam and Eve stood praying, until
the darkness of night came upon them,
and Adam was hid from Eve, and she from
him.
19 And they remained standing in prayer.


Next: Chapter XXVII

to be continued in another thread

CHAP. XXV.
God represented as merciful and loving.
The establishing of worship .
BUT God knew that Adam had in his
thoughts, that he should often kill himself
and make an offering to Him of his blood.
2 Therefore did He say unto him, "O Adam,
do not again kill thyself as thou didst, by
throwing thyself down from that
mountain."
3 But Adam said unto God, "It was in my
mind to put an end to myself at once, for
having transgressed Thy commandments,
and for my having come out of the
beautiful garden; and for the bright light of
which Thou hast deprived me; and for the
praises which poured forth from my mouth
without ceasing, and for the light that
covered me.
4 "Yet of Thy goodness, O God, do not
away with me altogether; but be favourable
to me every time I die, and bring me to
life.
5 "And thereby it will be made known that
Thou art a merciful God, who willest not
that one should perish; who lovest not that
one should fall; and who dost not
condemn any one cruelly, badly, and by
whole destruction."
6 Then Adam remained silent.
7 And the Word of God came unto him,
and blessed him, and comforted him, and
covenanted with him, that He would save
him at the end of the days determined
upon him.
8 This, then, was the first offering Adam
made unto God; and so it became his
custom to do.

CHAP. XXIV.

A vivid prophecy of the life and death of
Christ.


TEN the merciful God, good 'and lover of
men, looked upon Adam and Eve, and
upon their blood, which they had held up
as an offering unto Him; without an order
from Him for so doing. But He wondered
at them; and accepted their offerings.
2 And God sent from His presence a bright
fire, that consumed their offering.
3 He smelt the sweet savour of their
offering, and showed them mercy.
4 Then came the Word of God to Adam,
and said unto him, "O Adam, as thou hast
shed thy blood, so will I shed My own
blood when I become flesh of thy seed;
and as thou didst die, O Adam, so also
will I die. And as thou didst build an altar,
so also will I make for thee an altar on the
earth; and as thou didst offer thy blood
upon it, so also will I offer My blood upon
an altar on the earth.
5 "And as thou didst sue for forgiveness
through that blood, so also will I make My
blood forgiveness of sins, and blot out
transgressions in it.
6 "And now, behold, I have accepted thy
offering, O Adam, but the days of the
covenant, wherein I have bound thee, are
not fulfilled. When they are fulfilled, then
will I bring thee back into the garden.
7 "Now, therefore, strengthen thy heart;
and when sorrow comes upon thee, make
Me an offering, and I will be favourable to
thee.".


Next: Chapter XXV

CHAP. XXIII.

Adam and Eve gird themselves and make
the first altar ever built.


THEN Adam wept more and said, "O God,
have mercy on me, so far as to take upon
Thee, that which I will do."
2 But God took His Word from Adam and
Eve.
3 Then Adam and Eve stood on their feet;
and Adam said to Eve "Gird thyself, and I
also will gird myself." And she girded
herself, as Adam told her.
4 Then Adam and Eve took stones and
placed them in the shape of an altar; and
they took leaves from the trees outside the
garden, with which they wiped, from the
face of the rock, the blood they had spilled.
5 But that which had dropped on the sand,
they took together with the dust wherewith
it was mingled and offered it upon the altar
as an offering unto God.
6 Then Adam and Eve stood under the
altar and wept, thus entreating God,
"Forgive us our trespass 1 and our sin,
and look upon us with Thine eye of mercy.
For when we were in the garden our
praises and our hymns went up before
Thee without ceasing.
7 "But when we came into this strange
land, pure praise was no longer ours, nor
righteous prayer, nor understanding
hearts, nor sweet thoughts, nor just
counsels, nor long discernment, nor
upright feelings, neither is our bright
nature left us. But our body is changed
from the similitude in which it was at first,
when we were created.
8 "Yet now look upon our blood which is
offered upon these stones, and accept it at
our hands, like the praise we used to sing
unto Thee at first, when in the garden."
9 And Adam began to make more requests
unto God.


Footnotes
16:1 ORIGINAL OF THE LORD'S PRAYER
SAID TO BE USED ABOUT 150 YEARS
BEFORE OUR LORD: Our Father, Who art in
Heaven, be gracious unto us, O Lord our
God, hallowed be Thy Name, and let the
remembrance of Thee be glorified in
Heaven above and upon earth here below.
Let Thy kingdom reign over us now and
forever. The Holy Men of old said remit
and forgive unto all men whatsoever they
have done unto me. And lead us not into
temptation, but deliver us from the evil
thing; for Thine is the kingdom and Thou
shalt reign in glory forever and
forevermore, AMEN.


Next: Chapter XXIV

CHAP. XXII.

Adam in a chivalrous mood .


THEN Adam said to God, "I wither in the
heat; I am faint from walking, and am loth
of this world. And I know not when Thou
wilt bring me out of it, to rest."
2 Then the Lord God said unto him, "O
Adam, it cannot be at present, not until
thou hast ended thy days. Then shall I
bring thee out of this wretched land."
3 And Adam said to God, "While I was in
the garden I knew neither heat, nor
languor, neither moving about, nor
trembling, nor fear; but now since I came
to this land, all this affliction has come
upon me."
4 Then God said to Adam,
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"So long as thou wast keeping My
commandment, My light and My grace
rested on thee. But when thou didst
transgress My commandment, sorrow and
misery befell thee in this land."
5 And Adam wept and said, "O Lord, do
not cut me off for this, neither smite me
with heavy plagues, nor yet repay me
according to my sin; For we, of our own
will, did transgress Thy commandment,
and forsook Thy law, and sought to
become gods like unto Thee, when Satan
the enemy deceived us."
6 Then God said again unto Adam,
"Because thou hast borne fear and
trembling in this land, languor and
suffering treading and walking about, going
upon this mountain, and dying from it, I
will take all this upon Myself in order to
save thee."


Next: Chapter XXIII

CHAP. XXI.

Adam and Eve attempt suicide .


THEN Adam and Eve went in search of the
garden.
2 And the heat beat like a flame on their
faces; and they sweated from the heat, and
wept before the Lord.
3 But the place where they wept was nigh
unto a high mountain, facing the western
gate of the garden.
4 Then Adam threw himself down from the
top of that mountain; his face was tom and
his flesh was flayed; much blood flowed
from him, and he was nigh unto death.
5 Meanwhile Eve remained standing on the
mountain weeping over him, thus lying.
6 And she said, "I wish not to live after
him; for all that he did to himself was
through me."
7 Then she threw herself after him; and
was torn and scotched by stones; and
remained lying as dead.
8 But the merciful God, who looks upon
His creatures, looked upon Adam and Eve
as they lay dead, and He sent His Word
unto them, and raised them.
9 And said to Adam, "O Adam, all this
misery which thou hast wrought upon
thyself, will not avail against My rule,
neither will it alter the covenant of the
5500 years."


Next: Chapter XXII

BlueAngel444:
You don't even know what lust is.

Even from that verse you quoted from Matthew, Jesus speaking about lust. You see that lust is about desiring what is not yours

the wife body, like his own body, belongs her husband.

Mr man pity yourself and weep for yourself.

You don't even know God, all you know is what you've been taught or heard. Because if you did you won't be religious.

See you defending wet dreams, it's because of ignorant people like you who lack knowledge of God that leads people to insult God.

Imagine you saying wet dreams is unconscious, you sound as if you know exactly what you're saying and that's what makes your ignorance an arrogance. So was ignorance an excuse for them not to be unclean.

Lust is lust, my post wasn't about the intention of an action so was in no way similar to what Jesus says who speaks about intention and heart.

Is lust to you is arousal then like I said sex is sin and every form of it is so.

Telling you that something is recognized by God and you jumping stupidly showed you lack humility to understand even the scriptures you quote.

Weep for yourself and those under you. Weep and let your tears be for them.

I would have corrected you n pointed out to you in meekness and love but since you as proud as your father the devil may your fate not be the same as your religious pride. But may your eyes see the light of truth and your voice not misled the blind.

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what a narrow mindset and I won't argue further with u seeing the ignorance from ur lips

but answer this simple question
what drives watching porn or fornication ?

pls answer this in relation to your myopic definition of lust.

BlueAngel444:
It's either I say it directly or I don't say it at all.

I NEVER CONDONED LUST but dude God will visit you with your false accusation

you didn't condone lust but you support masturbation driven by lust

self deceit is the worst kind of deceit

BlueAngel444:
It's either I say it directly or I don't say it at all.

I NEVER CONDONED LUST but dude God will visit you with your false accusation

you didn't condone lust but you support masturbation

and worse still he notes that "Anyway Masturbation is permitted by scripture deal with it" so indirectly saying the lust is allowed in God's kingdom

wow what an arrogant and false teaching

xproducer:
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Wrong... OP!

Carnality - "pertaining to or characterized by the flesh or the body, its passions and appetites; sensual: carnal pleasures. not spiritual; merely human; temporal; worldly: a man of secular, rather carnal, leanings. - is strongly restricted by the Bible, particularly as GOD reveals more and more about the law(s) concerning such things in the New testament - https://www.dictionary.com/browse/carnality

"So then, brothers, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live according to the flesh. For if you live according to the flesh you will die, but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live. For all who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God." - Romans 8:12-14

"Do you not know that if you present yourselves to anyone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin, which leads to death, or of obedience, which leads to righteousness? But thanks be to God, that you who were once slaves of sin have become obedient from the heart to the standard of teaching to which you were committed" - Romans 6:16-17

"Put to death therefore what is earthly in you: sexual immorality, impurity, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry. On account of these the wrath of God is coming." - Colossians 3:5-6

"For all that is in the world—the desires of the flesh and the desires of the eyes and pride of life—is not from the Father but is from the world. And the world is passing away along with its desires, but whoever does the will of God abides forever." - 1 John 2:16-17

tell him, his connecting God with immorality because masturbation is an act deliberately motivated by lust but he is too ignorant to see it

BlueAngel444:
I don't really care about recognition from men but I will give you a chance to apologize n not because I need it but because false accusation is a very serious offense. the kind God doesn't joke it, just ask the devil. (Hint I am not a teacher, Infact if you're a child of God something will tell you the true meaning of that)

Anyway the scripture you quoted Matthew 5:28 speaks of adultery, what is adultery? Between a married person with someone that isn't their spouse. In this case the word should be WIFE right. But the word there is Woman, why? (Please Don't ask me o)

O If you don't apologize, whether I told u to or not, u will bear that guilt before God if u don't. I'm telling u this because I forgive u. Ignorance is not an excuse. it's not my rules anyway. Telling u because u said u used to count something as wise.

I don't know who taught u whatever they taught u, with that verse but it's definitely not Yeshua the Son of God.

lol what did I write about masturbation and sin. I would advice to be very careful, words said carelessly have consequences. You made assumptions and accused me falsely, in fact don't apologize face ur fate.

I wrote a scripture that spoke about uncleanliness, and sex and in your anger you committed a sin. LOL, I'm just laughing how do you pick a scripture about adultery and compare to that scripture. Do whatever n say whatever u want eh. It's your life.

am still saddened how myopic your thinking is mincing words and can't understand.
you write your epistle but dare associate God with unrighteousness

when Christ preached about adultery what was he driving at ? lust the cause of why people commit adultery, fornicate, masturbate, watch porn. etc
thus letting you know lust in any form is sin. read the book of tobith; who having married prayed to God confessing he didn't marry the woman his with out of lust

take a good look at the heading of your topic and tell me what you were driving at
if you were ever wise and not grossly ignorant you will know the difference between masturbating and wet dreams
God acknowledged any form (good & bad act) of the release of semen not masturbation. wet dreams are unconscious sexual actions because your body naturally during puberty will want to offload just women being in their period
masturbation is a deliberate lustful act. and lust is a sin

between me and you now who is the false teacher.
I saw your other write up " And the Lord repented"
opening a platform for people to insult God by asking a dumb question not even to someone you know online/offline but here where there a wolves willing to twist and deceive others but you call yourself wise.

if you had any understanding you would know what it meant but you couldn't and here I am as a brethren correcting u in the manner you preach the gospel and you mince words avoiding your false words I countered you at
its a pity

BlueAngel444:
just to make your point you added something, to me it doesn't matter whether u call it wet dream or masturbation it clearly wasn't sex.

The first thing that probably happened when you saw the post was a thought "that cannot be right"

Then you go ahead twist whatever you can so that that thought can be true and must be true while avoiding the truth right in front. It's not deception from outside that affects you it's the one within.

how you convince yourself your right, then misquote and twist things that don't even make sense because you it disagrees with your preconceived notion of things is interesting.

My post was simple straight to the point that even the simple minded led by the spirit of God will read that chapter without anyone's explanation and understand it.

There's no special interpretation to it, no hidden truth just a simple law given to be practiced first to men then to women.

Did you even pause and yourself why would sperm be on a garment, every garment.

Why state that first before mentioning sexually intercourse with a woman.

You're not wise you just refuse to accept that you are confused. I was once like u but unlike u I was never arrogant.

am glad you refute not what was the truth I shared with you. I countered your false message but all you did was mince words in order to prove urself right.
I pray you get enlightened

don't generalize
there are many causes of suicide; demons speak and can lure one to doing such. but the ultimate is regret & grief

nosapre:
Link to get a copy of the book

Google search "The Forgotten Books of Eden edited by Rutherford H. Platt, Jr. "[1926]

BlueAngel444:
When a man has an emission of semen, he must bathe his whole body with water, and he will be unclean till evening.
Any clothing or leather that has semen on it must be washed with water, and it will be unclean till evening.
When a man has sexual relations with a woman and there is an emission of semen , both of them must bathe with water, and they will be unclean till evening.

Leviticus 15:16-18

For those who truly understand scripture and teach the truth you will see from the verse above that two events were stated
1. Is when a man masturbates
2. When a man has sex with a woman

BOTH EVENTS ARE CALLED UNCLEAN

If you say uncleanliness is sin, and that is masturbation is sin, therefore SEX IS SIN (well Jesus did say there's no sex in heaven anyway this must break some people's heart )

Anyway Masturbation is permitted by scripture deal with it. Happy Sunday and have a happy week oh and don't forget to wash up after

also the verse you clearly pointed; did you notice God didn't actually point out the reason behind the release of semen. he could have clearly stated in number 2; when a "husband" & "Wife" have sex but no he didnt rather he said man and woman or in number 1 when a man is lusting after a woman or had a wet dream.
so you see he wasn't specific; his command wasn't quality specific but act specific.
The command was more of an awareness of the aftermath after the release of semen which was uncleanness and what to do to be clean.

so whether it was obi sleeping with a prostitute or husband sleeping with wife the aftermath would be the same; uncleanness

BlueAngel444:
When a man has an emission of semen, he must bathe his whole body with water, and he will be unclean till evening.
Any clothing or leather that has semen on it must be washed with water, and it will be unclean till evening.
When a man has sexual relations with a woman and there is an emission of semen , both of them must bathe with water, and they will be unclean till evening.

Leviticus 15:16-18

For those who truly understand scripture and teach the truth you will see from the verse above that two events were stated
1. Is when a man masturbates
2. When a man has sex with a woman

BOTH EVENTS ARE CALLED UNCLEAN

If you say uncleanliness is sin, and that is masturbation is sin, therefore SEX IS SIN (well Jesus did say there's no sex in heaven anyway this must break some people's heart )

Anyway Masturbation is permitted by scripture deal with it. Happy Sunday and have a happy week oh and don't forget to wash up after

before I counted you wise and one with understanding but ur false teaching runs contrary to the teaching of Christ where he pointed out lusting towards a woman in your heart is also committing adultery.

my question to you false teacher
when you masturbate; during that process what stimuli are u using in your mind to ejaculate ?

because certainly u can't achieve pleasure in masturbation if your heart isn't lustfully imagining another person which is thus a sin.
can you now take down that post if you know what's good for you

CHAP. XX.

Adam wishes to protect Eve .


THEN Adam wept and said, "O God,
remove us to some other place, that the
serpent may not come again near us, and
rise against us. Lest it find Thy handmaid
Eve alone and kill her; for its eyes are
hideous and evil."
2 But God said to Adam and Eve,
"Henceforth fear not, I will not let it come
near you; I have driven it away from you,
from this mountain; neither will I leave in it
aught to hurt you."
3 Then Adam and Eve worshipped before
God 'and gave Him thanks, and praised
Him for having delivered them from death.

CHAP. XIX.

Beasts made subject to Adam .


BUT Adam and Eve wept before God. And
Adam said unto Him:--
2 "O Lord, when I was in the cave, I said
this to Thee, my Lord, that the beasts of
the field would rise and devour me, and cut
off my life from the earth."
3 Then Adam, by reason of what had
befallen him, smote upon his breast, and
fell upon the earth like a corpse; then
came to him the Word of God,
p. 15
who raised him, and said unto him,
4 "O Adam, not one of these beasts will be
able to hurt thee; because when I made
the beasts and other moving things come
to thee in the cave, I did not let the
serpent come with them, lest it should rise
against you, make you tremble; and the
fear of it should fall into your hearts.
5 "For I knew that that accursed one is
wicked; therefore would I not let it come
near you with the other beasts.
6 "But now strengthen thy heart and fear
not. I am with thee unto the end of the
days I have determined on thee."


Next: Chapter XX

CHAP. XVIII.

The mortal combat with the serpent.


WHEN the accursed serpent saw Adam and
Eve, it swelled its head, stood on its tail,
and with eyes blood-red, did as if it would
kill them.
2 It made straight for Eve, and ran after
her; while Adam standing by, wept
because he had no stick in his hand
wherewith to smite the serpent, and knew
not how to put it to death.
3 But with a heart burning for Eve, Adam
approached the serpent, and held it by the
tail; when it turned towards him and said
unto him:--
4 "O Adam, because of thee and of Eve, I
am slippery, and go upon my belly." Then
by reason of its great strength, it threw
down Adam and Eve and pressed upon
them, as if it would kill them.
5 But God sent an angel who threw the
serpent away from them, and raised them
up.
6 Then the Word of God came to the
serpent, and said unto it, "In the first
instance I made thee glib, and made thee
to go upon thy belly; but I did not deprive
thee of speech.
7 "Now, however, be thou dumb; and
speak no more, thou and thy race;
because in the first place, has the ruin of
my creatures happened through thee, and
now thou wishest to kill them."
8 Then the serpent was struck dumb, and
spake no more.
9 And a wind came to blow from heaven
by command of God that carried away the
serpent from Adam and Eve, threw it on the
sea shore, and it landed in India.


Next: Chapter XIX

CHAP. XVII.

The Chapter of the Serpent.


THEN Adam and Eve came out at the
mouth of the cave, and went towards the
garden.
p. 14
2 But as they drew near to it, before the
western gate, from which Satan came
when he deceived Adam and Eve, they
found the. serpent that became Satan
coming at the gate, and sorrowfully licking
the dust, and wriggling on its breast on the
ground, by reason of the curse that fell
upon it from God.
3 And whereas aforetime the serpent was
the most exalted of all beasts, now it was
changed and become slippery, and the
meanest of them all, and it crept on its
breast and went on its belly.
4 And whereas it was the fairest of all
beasts, it had been changed, and was
become the ugliest of them all. Instead of
feeding on the best food, now it turned to
eat the dust. Instead of dwelling, as before,
in the best places, now it lived in the dust.
5 And, whereas it had been the most
beautiful of all beasts, all of which stood
dumb at its beauty, it was now abhorred of
them.
6 And, again, whereas it dwelt in one
beautiful abode, to which all other animals
came from elsewhere; and where it drank,
they drank also of the same; now, after it
had become venomous, by reason of
God's curse, all beasts fled from its abode,
and would not drink of the water it drank;
but fled from it.


Next: Chapter XVIII

CHAP. XVI.

The first sunrise. Adam and Eve think it is
a fire coming to burn them .


AFTER this Adam and Eve ceased not to
stand in the cave, praying and weeping,
until the morning dawned upon them.
2 And when they saw the light returned to
them, they restrained from fear, and
strengthened their hearts.
3 Then Adam began to come out of the
cave. And when he came to the mouth of
it, and stood and turned his face towards
the east, and saw the sun rise in glowing
rays, and felt the heat thereof on his body,
he was afraid of it, and thought in his heart
that this flame came forth to plague him.
4 He wept then, and smote upon his
breast, and fell upon the earth on his face,
and made his request, saying:--
5 "O Lord, plague me not, neither consume
me, nor yet take away my life from the
earth."
6 For he thought the sun was God.
7 Inasmuch as while he was in the garden
and heard the voice of God and the sound
He made in the garden, and feared Him,
Adam never saw the brilliant light of the
sun, neither did the flaming heat thereof
touch his body.
8 Therefore was he afraid of the sun when
flaming rays of it reached him. He thought
God meant to plague him therewith all the
days He had decreed for him.
9 For Adam also said in his thoughts, as
God did not plague us with darkness,
behold, He has caused this sun to rise and
to plague us with burning heat.
10 But while he was thus thinking in his
heart, the Word of God came unto him and
said:--
11 "O Adam, arise and stand up. This sun
is not God; but it has been created to give
light by day, of which I spake unto thee in
the cave saying, 'that the dawn would
break forth, and there would be light by
day.'
12 "But I am God who comforted thee in
the night."
13 And God ceased to commune with
Adam.


Next: Chapter XVII

Anwons:
Where did you get this? Just been curious

Research The Forgotten Books of Eden edited by
Rutherford H. Platt, Jr. [1926]