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Technology MarketRe: Dell Alienware M15.. SOLD by Ipsum(op): 8:32am On Nov 28, 2020
Morning
Technology MarketRe: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by Ipsum: 8:27am On Nov 28, 2020
Elbreezy:
1. He doesn't inspect and I have never asked him to do so. His job is to collect the items and then waybill them to the appropriate locations.

2. Hotdealz didn't bubble wrap the laptops. He just put them together in a BAGCO sac. My dispatch always bubble wrap before waybilling.

3. Yes, he confirmed the delivery of the laptops before waybilling.

4. I'm not in Lagos, so he picks all my items for me. I've known him for quite sometime and he has never disappointed me.

5. He sent two pictures that he later claimed to be stock images (pictures attached). Please note that he was supposed to send the real pictures.
2.. Since your dispatch bubble wraps before waybilling, he must have seen all the items in the course of waybilling. Did you later try to confirm from him, after receiving the package, how it was when he saw them? If yes, what did he say?

5. Hotdealz, why did you send stock images of laptops in your possession to a buyer interested in buying them, and worse of all, you never told him those weren't pics of the actual laptops? Haba.

You're a dealhunter yourself so it means you're familiar with the terrains of offerup. Will you send picker to go pick items from a seller who uploaded stock images without asking for real images?

Mehn, this is shady as hell honestly.

Plus look at those laptops. While it is true that damage can occur during waybiill, those things are not even mint in the first place. Yes, a mint item can damage during transit if it wasn't properly packaged but buyer has said they were even bubble wrapped before the waybill (which now reduces the possibility of damage to almost zero), & secondly the items are not even mint condition.

You not sending pics of actual items which were in your possession sef, preferring to use stock images, coupled with the condition buyer received items in does not help your case in anyway. It sends a strong message that it was premeditated on your part.

I can see vampire bite marks, zombie scruffs & scratches, & so many demonic defects that it's almost as if those laptops were lead characters in The Walking Dead.

Abeg do the right thing so this can be over.
Technology MarketRe: The Sacred Deals Of Ipsum!! Come In--->>> by Ipsum(op): 8:29pm On Nov 27, 2020
Ipsum:
AIN
Macbook Air 2015 13.3inch
Core i5
4gb ram
256ssd
Charger

220k
___________________________________________
AIN(pickup Lagos)

Hp Elitebook 840 G7
(New, no box.....verrry recent release)
Corei7-10th gen
16gig ram
512ssd
Fingerprint scanner
Backlit keyboard

449k firm
___________________________________
[s]AIN (pickup, Lagos

2019 HP Spectre (gem cut edition)
13.3 4K IPS BrightView micro-edge display
Core™ i7-8565U, up to 4.6 GHz
16 GB DDR4 RAM
512 GB PCIe® NVMe™ M.2 SSD
Backlit keyboard // Touchscreen // Fingerprint
Color: Poseidon blue(god of no-nonsense, like this laptop)

Box & everything (including the pen)..

370k firm[/s]
_____________________________________
AIN (pickup Lagos)
iPhone 12(64gb)
Brand new, open box(black)
Factory unlocked
With box & "complete accessory" ..

395k firm
____________________________________
AIN(pickup in Lagos)

Dell inspiron 7773
17.3 Full HD touchscreen IPS LED backlight.
Core i7-8550U( with 4 Cores, 8 Threads, 8M Cache, up to 4.00 GHz)
16GB ram // 2TB HDD
360 degree flip-and-fold into tablet mode
2GB NVIDIA GeForce MX150 graphics
Backlight keyboard

Charger + ihome full keyboard + logitech mouse + razer firefly mouse pad..

screen cracked (touchscreen still works)

238k firm
Technology MarketRe: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by Ipsum:
1..Elbreezy, the person you directed hotdealz to drop the laptops with in Lagos didn't see the laptops when it was delivered to him?

2.. Was it bubbled wrapped, or sealed, or delivered in a packaged way that made physically accessing or even quickly glacing at the contents of what was delivered, impossible?

3. Did you get confirmation, prior to waybiill, from the person that hotdealz has delivered the laptops?

4. I don't know if this is too personal or irrelevant, but what relationship do you share with the person who these laptops were delivered to?

5. Asides his verbal assurance of neatness, how many sample pictures did he send to you before payment was made?
Technology MarketRe: Dell Alienware M15.. SOLD by Ipsum(op): 7:59pm On Nov 27, 2020
E dey
Technology MarketRe: Brand New Iphone 12(SOLD) by Ipsum(op): 3:51pm On Nov 27, 2020
Ipsum:
Already in Nigeria (pickup Lagos)

Brand New iPhone 12
64gb Black
Factory unlocked
With box & complete accessories.. sorry cable grin

412,888naira..... 395k
Available
Technology MarketRe: All Offerup, Letgo, Craigslist, 5miles, Ebay, Amazon Deals.*READ FIRST PAGE* by Ipsum: 3:49pm On Nov 27, 2020
Ipsum:
AIN
Macbook Air 2015 13.3inch
Core i5
4gb ram
256ssd
Charger

227k
___________________________________________
AIN(pickup Lagos)

Hp Elitebook 840 G7
(New, no box.....verrry recent release)
Corei7-10th gen
16gig ram
512ssd
Fingerprint scanner
Backlit keyboard

449k firm
___________________________________
[s]AIN (pickup, Lagos

2019 HP Spectre (gem cut edition)
13.3 4K IPS BrightView micro-edge display
Core™ i7-8565U, up to 4.6 GHz
16 GB DDR4 RAM
512 GB PCIe® NVMe™ M.2 SSD
Backlit keyboard // Touchscreen // Fingerprint
Color: Poseidon blue(god of no-nonsense, like this laptop)

Box & everything (including the pen)..

370k firm[/s]
_____________________________________
AIN (pickup Lagos)
iPhone 12(64gb)
Brand new, open box(black)
Factory unlocked
With box & "complete accessory" ..

395k firm
____________________________________
AIN(pickup in Lagos)

Dell inspiron 7773
17.3 Full HD touchscreen IPS LED backlight.
Core i7-8550U( with 4 Cores, 8 Threads, 8M Cache, up to 4.00 GHz)
16GB ram // 2TB HDD
360 degree flip-and-fold into tablet mode
2GB NVIDIA GeForce MX150 graphics
Backlight keyboard

Charger + ihome full keyboard + logitech mouse + razer firefly mouse pad..

screen cracked (touchscreen still works)

238k firm
Technology MarketRe: The Sacred Deals Of Ipsum!! Come In--->>> by Ipsum(op): 1:34pm On Nov 27, 2020
Ipsum:
Already in Nigeria (pickup Lagos)

Alienware M15

Core i7-9750h (6-Core, 12MB Cache, up to 4. 5GHz w/Turbo Boost)

15.6" Fhd (144Hz IPS) narrow border display, narrow-border - Epic silver
16 GB ram
256ssd + 1tb hdd
Nvidia GeForce GTX 1660ti 6GB GDDR6
comes in box(it is not brand new pls)

493k
Technology MarketRe: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by Ipsum: 1:24pm On Nov 27, 2020
And while being born, raised & throughly rinsed in the starchy depths of Sapele water or River ethiope is absolutely no excuse to be uncouth, a peddler of false narratives & a proud agent of chaos --- given the fact some of us here were raised in even murkier waters ---- it should however still be looked into if the man from Delta state has fulfilled the 6months probation rule with no current pending transgressions & the appropriate measure taken in accordance with the agreement.

Same thing for Chisom.

Thanks to everyone collectively putting in the work, even with thier necks on the line, to make this a safe place. Three gbooosaaaa for una!! gbosa!! gboosa!! gbooooosaaaa!!!

Kreamie, Wildchild, etc
& everyone here..
Technology MarketRe: Hp Elitebook 840 G7(latest Release) Corei7-10th Gen, 16gig Ram, 512ssd .. SOLD by Ipsum(op): 11:58am On Nov 27, 2020
E dey
Technology MarketRe: Dell Inspiron 7773.. (corei7-8th Gen,nvidia Geforce) Make An Offer by Ipsum(op): 11:57am On Nov 27, 2020
Available
Technology MarketRe: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by Ipsum: 11:11am On Nov 27, 2020
D4donxxx:
Thanks a lot my bosses for your input , if he agrees to send me 10k I'll be fine with it

And also he should send me all the correspondence he had with the buyer a because that is very important to me , to know how best to resolve issues with him .

Thanks a lot for your input my bosses

Wildchild1
Shelay
Kreamie
Rakitibarca
Protein0
Donbigi2
Joeysage

Means a lot to me , whether he agrees or not , but as long as you guys have contributed means that at the very least you did the best you possibly could to mitigate my suffering.
Well, whatever you both agree to is fine. And I do not want to be seen as stoking the flames of a dying fire, but in my personal opinion, trying to soil a middleman's repute behind the scenes is a grave sin -- as heavy as Adam & Eve taking a bite from the forbidden fruit.

Inshort it is sacrilege if one even begins to consider the fact that alot of guys on here will not see food on thier table if every orginal deal owner starts pulling the stunt -- or should I say abomination -- hotdealz attempted.

As a result, I wholeheartedly believe the penance should match the gravity of the sin. Or try to.

He should pay in full. No room for compromise here considering the gravity of the stunt he pulled.

House, abi how una reason am?
Technology MarketRe: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by Ipsum: 10:48am On Nov 27, 2020
hotdealz:
That man has issues with his waybill company not me.
Okay, the man has come out to explain & stand on his ground that the issue was from your end.

If indeed the issue was from his waybill company, we'll like you to explain how. Thanks

You should know a one-liner will not do it in this case.
Technology MarketRe: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by Ipsum: 10:44am On Nov 27, 2020
Elbreezy:
‌I purchased 4 pieces of hp elitebook laptops from hotdealz on the 31st of October. He clearly stated that the laptops were neat and of good condition. But when the laptops were delivered, they were not as he had described. Three out of the four laptops are rough and one was broken. He (hotdealz) claimed that the roughness was as a result of package issues during delivery and then refused to take responsibility for deceiving me with different images of the laptops. I tried to sell off the laptops but they are just too rough to sell.
‌All I want is for him to refund my money. I have proofs of the what he claimed that he sent and what was delivered. Please note that this isn't the first time that I'll be doing business with him.


The first two pictures are the pictures of what he sent
Last two are what I got
The pictures didn't load. Can you modify & reupload?
Technology MarketRe: Dell Alienware M15.. SOLD by Ipsum(op): 9:29am On Nov 27, 2020
Morning dear people of Earth.

Alienware says Hi.
Technology MarketRe: All Offerup, Letgo, Craigslist, 5miles, Ebay, Amazon Deals.*READ FIRST PAGE* by Ipsum: 7:12am On Nov 27, 2020
Ipsum:
AIN
Macbook Air 2015 13.3inch
Core i5
4gb ram
256ssd
Charger

227k
___________________________________________
AIN(pickup Lagos)

Hp Elitebook 840 G7
(New, no box.....verrry recent release)
Corei7-10th gen
16gig ram
512ssd
Fingerprint scanner
Backlit keyboard

449k firm
___________________________________
[s]AIN (pickup, Lagos

2019 HP Spectre (gem cut edition)
13.3 4K IPS BrightView micro-edge display
Core™ i7-8565U, up to 4.6 GHz
16 GB DDR4 RAM
512 GB PCIe® NVMe™ M.2 SSD
Backlit keyboard // Touchscreen // Fingerprint
Color: Poseidon blue(god of no-nonsense, like this laptop)

Box & everything (including the pen)..

370k firm[/s]
_____________________________________
AIN (pickup Lagos)
iPhone 12(64gb)
Brand new, open box(black)
Factory unlocked
With box & "complete accessory" ..

395k firm but will accept 390k just for today
____________________________________
AIN(pickup in Lagos)

Dell inspiron 7773
17.3 Full HD touchscreen IPS LED backlight.
Core i7-8550U( with 4 Cores, 8 Threads, 8M Cache, up to 4.00 GHz)
16GB ram // 2TB HDD
360 degree flip-and-fold into tablet mode
2GB NVIDIA GeForce MX150 graphics
Backlight keyboard

Charger + ihome full keyboard + logitech mouse + razer firefly mouse pad..

screen cracked (touchscreen still works)

238k firm
Technology MarketDell Alienware M15.. SOLD by Ipsum(op):
[s]Already in Nigeria (pickup Lagos)

Alienware M15

Core i7-9750h (6-Core, 12MB Cache, up to 4. 5GHz w/Turbo Boost)

15.6" Fhd (144Hz IPS) narrow border display, narrow-border - Epic silver
16 GB ram
256ssd + 1tb hdd
Nvidia GeForce GTX 1660ti 6GB GDDR6
comes in box

493k[/s]

Technology MarketRe: All Offerup, Letgo, Craigslist, 5miles, Ebay, Amazon Deals.*READ FIRST PAGE* by Ipsum: 6:25pm On Nov 26, 2020
Already in Nigeria (pickup Lagos)

Alienware M15

Core i7-9750h (6-Core, 12MB Cache, up to 4. 5GHz w/Turbo Boost)

15.6" Fhd (144Hz IPS) narrow border display, narrow-border - Epic silver
16 GB ram
256ssd + 1tb hdd
Nvidia GeForce GTX 1660ti 6GB GDDR6
comes in box

493k

Technology MarketRe: The Sacred Deals Of Ipsum!! Come In--->>> by Ipsum(op):
[s]Already in Nigeria (pickup Lagos)

Alienware M15

Core i7-9750h (6-Core, 12MB Cache, up to 4. 5GHz w/Turbo Boost)

15.6" Fhd (144Hz IPS) narrow border display, narrow-border - Epic silver
16 GB ram
256ssd + 1tb hdd
Nvidia GeForce GTX 1660ti 6GB GDDR6
comes in box(it is not brand new pls)

487k[/s]

Technology MarketRe: All Offerup, Letgo, Craigslist, 5miles, Ebay, Amazon Deals.*READ FIRST PAGE* by Ipsum: 5:39pm On Nov 26, 2020
Ipsum:
AIN
Macbook Air 2015 13.3inch
Core i5
4gb ram
256ssd
Charger

227k
___________________________________________
AIN(pickup Lagos)

Hp Elitebook 840 G7
(New, no box.....verrry recent release)
Corei7-10th gen
16gig ram
512ssd
Fingerprint scanner
Backlit keyboard

449k firm
___________________________________
[s]AIN (pickup, Lagos

2019 HP Spectre (gem cut edition)
13.3 4K IPS BrightView micro-edge display
Core™ i7-8565U, up to 4.6 GHz
16 GB DDR4 RAM
512 GB PCIe® NVMe™ M.2 SSD
Backlit keyboard // Touchscreen // Fingerprint
Color: Poseidon blue(god of no-nonsense, like this laptop)

Box & everything (including the pen)..

370k firm[/s]
_____________________________________
AIN (pickup Lagos)
iPhone 12(64gb)
Brand new, open box(black)
Factory unlocked
With box & "complete accessory" ..

395k firm but will accept 390k just for today
____________________________________
AIN(pickup in Lagos)

Dell inspiron 7773
17.3 Full HD touchscreen IPS LED backlight.
Core i7-8550U( with 4 Cores, 8 Threads, 8M Cache, up to 4.00 GHz)
16GB ram // 2TB HDD
360 degree flip-and-fold into tablet mode
2GB NVIDIA GeForce MX150 graphics
Backlight keyboard

Charger + ihome full keyboard + logitech mouse + razer firefly mouse pad..

screen cracked (touchscreen still works)

238k firm
Technology MarketRe: Dell Inspiron 7773.. (corei7-8th Gen,nvidia Geforce) Make An Offer by Ipsum(op): 2:00pm On Nov 26, 2020
Ipsum:
AIN(pickup in Lagos)

Dell inspiron 7773

17.3 Full HD touchscreen IPS LED backlight.
Core i7-8550U( with 4 Cores, 8 Threads, 8M Cache, up to 4.00 GHz)
16GB ram
2TB HDD
360 degree flip-and-fold into tablet mode
2GB NVIDIA GeForce MX150 graphics
Backlight keyboard

Charger + ihome full keyboard + logitech mouse + razer firefly mouse pad..

screen cracked (touchscreen still works)
reasonable offers will be accepted..

Note: offers less than 228k will be considered a declaration of War. Lol

Modified: 238k firm
Selling
Technology MarketRe: Brand New Iphone 12(SOLD) by Ipsum(op): 1:58pm On Nov 26, 2020
Afternoon
Technology MarketRe: All Offerup, Letgo, Craigslist, 5miles, Ebay, Amazon Deals.*READ FIRST PAGE* by Ipsum: 12:03pm On Nov 26, 2020
Ipsum:
AIN
Macbook Air 2015 13.3inch
Core i5
4gb ram
256ssd
Charger

227k
___________________________________________
AIN(pickup Lagos)

Hp Elitebook 840 G7
(New, no box.....verrry recent release)
Corei7-10th gen
16gig ram
512ssd
Fingerprint scanner
Backlit keyboard

449k firm
___________________________________
[s]AIN (pickup, Lagos

2019 HP Spectre (gem cut edition)
13.3 4K IPS BrightView micro-edge display
Core™ i7-8565U, up to 4.6 GHz
16 GB DDR4 RAM
512 GB PCIe® NVMe™ M.2 SSD
Backlit keyboard // Touchscreen // Fingerprint
Color: Poseidon blue(god of no-nonsense, like this laptop)

Box & everything (including the pen)..

370k firm[/s]
_____________________________________
AIN (pickup Lagos)
iPhone 12(64gb)
Brand new, open box(black)
Factory unlocked
With box & "complete accessory" ..

395k firm but will accept 390k just for today
____________________________________
AIN(pickup in Lagos)

Dell inspiron 7773
17.3 Full HD touchscreen IPS LED backlight.
Core i7-8550U( with 4 Cores, 8 Threads, 8M Cache, up to 4.00 GHz)
16GB ram // 2TB HDD
360 degree flip-and-fold into tablet mode
2GB NVIDIA GeForce MX150 graphics
Backlight keyboard

Charger + ihome full keyboard + logitech mouse + razer firefly mouse pad..

screen cracked (touchscreen still works)

238k firm
Hp spectre sold
Technology MarketRe: 2019 HP Spectre Gem Cut Edition.. Corei7-8th Gen, Ram, 512ssd...SOLD by Ipsum(op): 12:02pm On Nov 26, 2020
Ipsum:
[s]Already In Nigeria(pickup, Lagos)

2019 HP Spectre (gem cut edition)

13.3 4K IPS BrightView micro-edge display
Core™ i7-8565U, up to 4.6 GHz
16 GB DDR4 RAM
512 GB PCIe® NVMe™ M.2 SSD
Backlit keyboard
Touchscreen
Fingerprint
Color: Poseidon blue(god of no-nonsense, like this laptop)

Box & everything (including the pen)..

375k firm[/s]
SOLD
Technology MarketRe: All Offerup, Letgo, Craigslist, 5miles, Ebay, Amazon Deals.*READ FIRST PAGE* by Ipsum:
AIN(pickup Lagos)

Hp Elitebook 840 G7
(New, no box.....verrry recent release)
Corei7-10th gen
16gig ram
512ssd
Fingerprint scanner
Backlit keyboard

449k firm
___________________________________
[s]AIN (pickup, Lagos

2019 HP Spectre (gem cut edition)
13.3 4K IPS BrightView micro-edge display
Core™ i7-8565U, up to 4.6 GHz
16 GB DDR4 RAM
512 GB PCIe® NVMe™ M.2 SSD
Backlit keyboard // Touchscreen // Fingerprint
Color: Poseidon blue(god of no-nonsense, like this laptop)

Box & everything (including the pen)..

370k firm[/s]
_____________________________________
[s]AIN (pickup Lagos)
iPhone 12(64gb)
Brand new, open box(black)
Factory unlocked
With box & "complete accessory" ..

395k firm [/s]
____________________________________
AIN(pickup in Lagos)

Dell inspiron 7773
17.3 Full HD touchscreen IPS LED backlight.
Core i7-8550U( with 4 Cores, 8 Threads, 8M Cache, up to 4.00 GHz)
16GB ram // 2TB HDD
360 degree flip-and-fold into tablet mode
2GB NVIDIA GeForce MX150 graphics
Backlight keyboard

Charger + ihome full keyboard + logitech mouse + razer firefly mouse pad..

screen cracked (touchscreen still works)

238k firm
Technology MarketRe: All Offerup, Letgo, Craigslist, 5miles, Ebay, Amazon Deals.*READ FIRST PAGE* by Ipsum: 9:33pm On Nov 25, 2020
ikembz:
My daddy..when I said back up..I never meant​ that NL is not working..If you had read the part in Ipsum'a speech where he stated that NL crashed and some certain details was lost and blah blah..And no backup to follow up....So that's what I meant by backup,if in the future NL does crash(Which I hope won't happen)..coz we ain't the owner nor we both don't manage this Site..
We just tenants making.money in a free house..
Sho get....
Forget about crash sef. NL's crash or not, People should have the choice to do business through whatever legal means works best for them without feeling bad.

There are plenty risks everywhere. The best you can do is let people understand those risks & allow them choose what works best for them. And it seems the luck & blessing of genuine pickers we've had so far had made us temporarily forget how risky this our business model even is. NL, whatsapp or wherever, a picker can wake-up one morning and vanish with people's money. It has happened on this same NL before. We all know that story.

And like i told him, no one is leaving. How can people who were never here before leave?. Isn't that illogical? There are new pickers who don't even do it full time, some do not want much crowd & prefer managing a small group etc. Let people who want to explore those areas do. The whole gadgets coming into Nigeria cannot come through NL.

The pickers we already have here in multiple cities that continuously serve people here, none of them has any whatsapp group sef, so the narrative of segregation of this community that's beginning to be peddled is even cold dead on arrival. All of them, to the best of my knowledge, carry out thier biz 100% on here.

Anyways,make we just forget this thing & just go back to posting deals like everybody else biko. Time will tell I guess.

My Hp Spectre, iPhone 12, macbook, Dell etc will not sell themselves oo... ** carries tray on head** lol
Technology MarketRe: All Offerup, Letgo, Craigslist, 5miles, Ebay, Amazon Deals.*READ FIRST PAGE* by Ipsum: 6:46pm On Nov 25, 2020
Ipsum:
Already in Nigeria (pickup Lagos)

Brand New open box iPhone 12
64gb Black
Factory unlocked
With box & complete accessories.. sorry cable

395k firm... offer valid just for 24hrs
Technology MarketRe: All Offerup, Letgo, Craigslist, 5miles, Ebay, Amazon Deals.*READ FIRST PAGE* by Ipsum: 6:37pm On Nov 25, 2020
ikembz:
I understand your point of view....
All what you clamouring for just like a backup, for this forum....For biznez to kwantinue...
Of course, but let's all pretend as if I'm yapping dust. Once someone makes a complaint, na Wildchild everybody go dey wait for while the rest look away as if nothing. In the days of dispute resolution thread, things were even better but now even that has been taken away by God knows who... Why??

We all don't want to make a collective effort to preserve this community we've painstakingly built over the years, we just want to relax thinking it'll last for forever. Even the walls of jericho eventually fell down flat. That's how life works. No time for emotions.

I never even thought a day would come when the sacred power of a vouch, which is like the voice of Amadioha, would gradually begin to lose its steam.... but here we are because most of us have become so lazy & don't want to put in the collective work to send a strong message that WE ALL are watching & nonsense will not be tolerated.

Make we all better wakeup, tighten up, & stop basking in the euphoria of past Glory cos we are becoming too lazy & I don't like it.
Technology MarketRe: All Offerup, Letgo, Craigslist, 5miles, Ebay, Amazon Deals.*READ FIRST PAGE* by Ipsum: 6:16pm On Nov 25, 2020
timijoseph01:
I Disagree... And will support with few points..

What's the authenticity of these group creators...??
When a new picker wants to open shop here, who verifes them? As in who says "it's okay to do business with this person?" before everyone follows suit?

The same people who verify new pickers here are responsible for the authenticity. You welcome

Unlike NL background cgcek can be done on their profile and posts..
Tell me what NL background checks you have done on new pickers who opened new accounts for the sole purpose of this business?

Also who vouch or validate them..? How do we know them..? since unlike NL it's not easy scrolling through prev msg..
And how can background check be done on their who vouch, to cofirm aunthencity also..?
Who vouched for people like Lionlee, Daaz, yalhaji & bukimore ( who had no previous history on NL) before everyone was confident enough to start doing business with them. It is the same people. You welcome once again

**It very easy to miss out on critical information on whatsapp groups, as against NL where threads are numbered, pages bookmarked and prev chats easily accessible
This is interesting because like I said earlier, NL was attacked by cyber criminals who caused catastrophic loss of data & valuable information that have never been recovered till today. No platform is infallible. Understand that.

**Whatsapp groups give Pickers a from of autonomous power on his groups and dealers are at his mercy. As no regulation or moderators. For anyone who attempts to blow the whistle on any fowl play,, all he needs do is remove/block the person.
You're talking about autonomous power when the dispute resolution thread that holds so much data vanished without explanation or dialogue. If the mods decide to lock this section for a month or so, what can you do? You talk about foul play as if a popular picker here, who's no longer in business now, didn't vanish with people's hard earned money & investment before popping out of the blue to sort it. Every platform has it dangers. None is infallible.

**Recently a picker has gone rogue (won't mention name), holding on to millions of his customers, never ships or delays shipments of his clients.. If not for the alarm raised on his thread, more people would still have fallen victim.. I remember a new person coming there to ask for Vouch, thank God he asked.. And he was warned to stay back.
**For newcomers, having access to pickup threads, pickers profile and prev transaction can boost convindence.. Not to forget being able to access the Weekly Shipments Details to confirm aunthencity of deal hunters without necessarily asking the Picker directly (who may never respond or respond late)
**As a deal hunter, how do you check prev shipments and dates of arrivals if was done in a secrete group..? A few people love to do a check on like 3 to 5 past shipment of pickers and how long it took to arrival, before deciding to invest.. ETA history may not matter to some, but its a big deal to others..
First of, as a dealhunter, the moment you choose to deal with a picker that has only a whatsapp group, you must have medicated on the risks, done your due diligence, & come to the conclusion that it's okay for you. You make it seem as if all the goods being shipped into Nigeria are from this thread.

Like I said earlier, a platform is a platform. I believe there are people who also have thier fb groups, or whatever groups that has been working for them for years. What then makes here superior? Isn't that just nothing but pure emotion lol? Talking about searching for past shipments & all that, is it only NL that has a search feature to help track back or say a catalogue? Lol

**Imagine if Mikky or Lionlee haved moved to whatsapp group years ago, how many people will be here today.. Incase you don't know, these pickup thing is what gives some people their daily bread, some see it as side hustle, some it's the main hustle for some.. Why take that privilege and make it secrete??
Valid point, but nobody is moving to whatsapp groups & leaving lol. There are just new pickers who prefer the whatsapp platform cos it works better for them etc.. Will you now force them to come to NL or leave, most especially some who don't even have accounts here?

**The continued success of these pickup thing thrives on the numbers of people coming in here daily,, if this community stops growing.. Who will buy those TLC from deal hunters, who will buy those AIN from dealers.. how will those pickers keep getting orders... While I understand some people sell outside this forum (even myself), some don't have shops or customer base outside NL.. And these is where they do their thing.
Your fear is based on the erroneous assumption that the pickers who have been part of this community & buyers & dealhunters alike, are leaving for another platform, when as a matter of fact everyone plans to remain active here & continue business as usual like it has been over the years.

**NL as a forum has given SO MUCH to everyone on here, and I think the least we can pay back is the traffic generated from these pickup threads.
This last paragraph, is what I don't like about we Nigerians ( I'm also guilty atimes sef) --- deflecting from the main discourse & trying to use emotional blackmail to make the other party look like the devil in the absence of fact & evidence to help our case. Might not have been deliberate, but you still did it here sha.lol

Who said anything about taking away anything from NL? Besides, what does "pay back" even mean in this context? Lol So you think it's only the users that benefit from NL, and the forum itself doesn't?

You think NL as a forum, has been a victim of an abusive & parasitic relationship over the years that we must all now "pay back" by not utilizing the power of whatsapp on the side too, in an evolving 21st century technology driven world?

Snapchat stories gave people so much, yet people embraced instagram stories without having the need to "pay back" snapchat by refusing to use/test & explore a new thing. Lol

And lastly, let it be known that I am not in anyway clamoring for an exodus, but it would be totally unfair & maybe hilarious to not expect people to explore new technologies designed to make business somewhat faster & more efficient.

And fear not, no one is leaving. There are just new people who prefer the convinience & tools whatsapp now offers to businesses. Same way I believe there are people here who prefer buying from eBay than Offerup & those who have family members who ship items to them directly.

I believe whatever works for people should be respected, & not demonized, until proven otherwise maybe... It is well.
Technology MarketRe: All Offerup, Letgo, Craigslist, 5miles, Ebay, Amazon Deals.*READ FIRST PAGE* by Ipsum: 5:01pm On Nov 25, 2020
adisababa1234:
Boss wild child stressed what will be beneficial to the new babies in his write up and that ought to be considered.If everyone here and strong members collapsed into WhatsApp group then what will be the future of we that are just understanding the trend and the business.
I'll like to submit that with the idea above the strong members will continue to take their pace while the new babies might fade away in the business.
You say it as if this place throws fresher's welcome party for newbies from time to time to help them quickly absorb into the community. Most of the help newbie buyers & sellers have gotten here have been mostly from private dms to people here cos in most cases, nobody will answer you.

You say it as if this place is some sort of utopia. Okay for example, what will happen to the passionate pursuit of justice & accountability when Wildchild either becomes too busy due to work or something? Is it the same people who will skip complaints to post deals & lookway that will serve you justice? Tell me what the plan is in the event of that?

We don't share tips to new sellers on how to dealhunt, negotiate, how to sell etc. Or even discuss market trends here. Neither do we share daily or weekly tips to newbies asides the usual warning to ask for vouch (which is enough) before buying.

So I want to know how people choosing to belong to a whatsapp group (same people who do business here) threatens newbies when the same people are still active here & are not leaving?

And like i said earlier, the existence of whatsapp groups is not a clamour for the demise of this place. Why can't both exist?
Technology MarketRe: All Offerup, Letgo, Craigslist, 5miles, Ebay, Amazon Deals.*READ FIRST PAGE* by Ipsum: 12:29pm On Nov 25, 2020
wildchild1:
Dragnet, kindly help us restore the dispute resolution thread. Also, we need someone who can be in charge of this thread full time, even if it means paying the person, i dont know how you can help us.

People need to stop dealing on whatsapp groups, if a picker/seller cant use this NL platform for their business especially for TLC items, such picker/buyer should be canceled. If everyone decides to run their business on whatsapp, how will this community grow? How will newbies understand whats going on? Its even more annoying that majority of the people that have benefitted from this section are the ones encouraging whatsapp groups for trading.

Anyone selling TLC should be mandated to put name and location of picker on their ads. A lot of popular people do this despite numerous comments that such should be stopped, its very sad that people who know rules are the ones breaking it sad

If you're having any unresolved issue with anyone, speak out now. I heard a lot of people were scammed lately but i dont have much information.

Elbreezy, have you resolved your issue with Hotdealz?
D4donnn have you resolved your issue with Hotdealz?

Cc Pradit Dragnet
While most of what you've said is factual & resonates with me too as It's coming from a good place, you also have to understand that "a platform is a platform." It is one thing to argue that we should preserve this place & continue to do business here 100% & nowhere else for the sake of nolstagia & the fact that we all started our journey here which I totally understand.

However, once we set emotions aside, can we prove that doing business here -- and nowhere else, like certain whatsapp groups for example -- is better & safer? If yes, then maybe we should allow evidence & fact speak for itself.

For example, most of us still do not even know why the dispute resolution thread was closed in the first place? Doesn't closing a tool that serves to protect the purity & safety of this community to a very large extent sends a strong signal the we ---- sellers & buyers whose life savings is being put at stake here daily-- are not in control at all or even have a say? Is that not a red flag?

The whatsapp group(s), atleast the one I know of, which aspersions have been cast on, I guarantee you is 100% safer for doing business, as every member goes through a rigorous vetting process which includes submission of sensitive, full-proof personal information that can be used to locate & track in the event of any misdoings.

It is unlike here where unremorseful ticking time bombs, who should cover thier heads in shame for trying to fleece innocent buyers, will come and give half-assed apologies while making it clear that this is an "anonymous forum", e no too pain them, then garnish it with a semi ffffuck-off in the air.

Oga Wildchild, thank you for always being a beacon of justice & authority of hope in this community, however some of us have also been taking notes of some things & strongly believe a plan B is not bad at all. It doesn't mean we have gone stray from our roots, we just want to have a backup plan, citing some red flags.

Like a said from the beginning, a platform is a platform. For one to be rubbished, the other must be proven to be better, in this case-- safer. And no platform is infallible. I'm sure you remember the period when NL crashed & cashed a catastrophic, painful loss of data & valuable information. A plan B is never a bad idea. And the existence of one should not catalyze the demise of the other. I dare say both can even complement eachother for more efficiency & robustness.

Until strong measures are taken to show everyone that this place is safer, expect people to continue to decentralize into whatsapp groups, which as I have said(using one as an example), has a strong vetting process that makes it much more safer sef, & the stakeholders all have full & equal control, & say. Not one where you wake-up one morning to see that the powers-that-be have erased your entire history, your Creation, or whatever it is they choose this time, without any dialogue , just cause they can or doesn't fit thier ideology.

It is very pertinent that as a businessman, woman, lesbian or gay, you own a stake, have a say, and some level of control too, especially in a venture where you stake & risk your life savings/ investments daily. It is suicidal to be happy to remain a tenant who dances to the horsewhip of his landlord.

It is well.

Plus if I have at any point peddled wrong & untrue information during the course of this epistle, I stand to be corrected. We can agree to disagree. Thanks
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Ipsum:
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Charger
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