escodotman: It's confirmed that you are a nonentity. Have you been to my hospital and saw homosexual people like you? Your mind is so twisted that you think there are other people also like you who are a disappointment to their family by choosing to be homosexual. I can't imagine the gorry and horror thought of how you insert your manhood into where the body is designed to ONLY pass out body waste (excreta & gas), yet you claim you are in medical school. If truly you are, then you are a disagrace to the medical profession because I'm sure your amiable teachers must have taught you in anatomy what the rectum and anus are meant for and not for sex, you must have been taught what the vag*na is also meant for. I wish you all the best in the wrong and disastrous homosexual path you've chosen. Just don't try your devlish act in the open in Nigeria because jail term awaits you.
Lol, I laugh at you seriously because you think there are no gay doctors that everything revolves around your heteronormative homophobic world. I know gay doctors personally and a couple online on different groups I belong to who are advocating for homosexuals.
I have explained to you countless time though out this thread that homosexuality is not about sex and certainly not anal sex, I hope you are teachable like this or homophobia has so blinded you. There are Gay's and Lesbians who have never wrong has anal sex and in fact heterosexual men have had anal sex with their wives and Girlfriends, even MouthAction and intracrural sex too. Please go and preach your organ for sex theory to them. I never saw where you were taught in medicine that vaginal sex is the only kind of sex and vagina is the only organ for sex, because I know we have penetrative and non penetrative sex, vaginal sex, MouthAction and anal sex in medicine. so I don't know why homophobia is blinding you... To think that anal sex is your last point against Homosexuality as a valid sexual orientation which has nothing to do with sex, makes me wonder why most of you here just keep thinking of gays and lesbians in terms of sex. I fear most here condemning gays are fornicators, adulterers and sexually immoral people.
And again your continuous insulting me does not give weight to your already non existent arguments, as an advice, continuous insulting makes you look less in an argument.
escodotman: I just don't know why some nonentities can't pass their message across without using their fungi-infested fingers to type abusive and/or insulting words! You are a shameless human being if you think you can bend other people's opinions to suit your own beliefs. Immediately I saw a word of insult in your write-up, I knew I should stop any further discussions with you. Next time, pass your opinion across, devoid of any insultive words whatsoever. Low lifes all over the social media.
Now you've called me a nonentity, you have said my fingers are fungi infested and that I'm a low life in addition to previously calling me foolish but it's all fine. I will still not reply your insults. However I hold that what I said about your opinion on "you chose to not be attracted to same sex no matter how fine they are" is A SILLY OPINION because gays do not become gays because they chose to be attracted to a same sex who is too fine for them to resist. I'm sure I've explained this before and you understand so I will not go over it again.
Now you still for the third time did not answer my question. *When exactly did you chose to be heterosexual, when exactly, when was that CONSCIOUS EFFORT.*
For all the people who say I'm gay as an insult. Well I don't know how that is an insult. I will graduate from me d school next year and I will join the pool of doctors who happen to be LGBT that are in your hospitals saving lives of homophobic people like yourselves buy it's fine, no grudge and no malice intended, it is our job and calling, I mean we all have a role to play on life. Whether I be Tim Cooks-Apple CEO, Sir Elton John, or Sir Ian McClellan of the X-men or multiple Grammy winning Sam Smith or Empire Executive Producer-award winning Lee Daniels, or whoever, I will be proud to be gay as long as my life is not endangered by INHUMAN persons who can take a life.
And yes there will be the heterosexuals who support rights and health for all, like IRyan and Oprah winfery, then are usually better than the homophobic lot.
my brother don't cook up statistics oo. I only know Holland has good economy and they are free of serious natural disaster. although they aren't suffering from any disease more than any country, its steal a popular consensus that homosexuality is complicit in many serious sexual disease.
Like I said you can go and check indexes of HIV/AIDS in Holland, Belgium, Denmark, France, UK and most of the countries that have legalised Homosexuality and come back and tell me the levels. I'm sure the disease you are talking of is not more than HIV. These countries have shown with their natural stories that legalising homosexuality does not increase any disease, does not degrade economy or creates natural disasters, does not destroy heterosexual marriages, does not increase the normal amount of homosexuals and surely does not make God hate a country.
escodotman: Being foolish has been ingrained in the way you reason for calling someone else's opinion 'silly'. The last time I checked, everyone is entitled to their opinion... Who do you think you are to call someone's opinion silly? These misguided fellows hiding behind the keyboard to disrespect people on social media, based on simple arguments. You've chosen to be a homosexual, so good luck to you and stop trying hard to make people buy into your twisted world.
And you still did not answer my question. Well avoidance tactics I get. I said the opinion was silly, not your person, but if it makes you feel better you can call me foolish, it doesn't change the fact that your logic of saying that one chooses not to be attracted to someone of the same sex irrespective of HOW FINE they are is just plain silly, because Heterosexuals will never be sexually or romantically attracted to the same sex irrespective of how fine they are and so for Homosexuals and the opposite sex. I hope you get it anyway rather than claim I insulted you or resulting to insulting me.
escodotman: What do you mean ''straight''... Oh you mean being 'normal' right? Ok, I chose to be straight because it is natural and the very normal thing to do. I chose not to be developing 'feelings' for my fellow man no matter how handsome he is, I chose not be 'sleeping' with my fellow man because they don't have the opposite sex's genitals. So yes, being 'staright' is psychological, inborn, natural and the normal thing to do as humans.
Lol, "being normal" oya now be feeling fly, for your mind you better pass gay people. So you think same sex men and women fall in love because of how handsome or how beautiful the person is. So by your silly logic a same sex person will have to chose not to develop feelings for the opposite sex because they are very fine. Well lemme tell you most gays will not be moved if you like bring Miss World to them; they are not attracted to the opposite sex. Boss you ate heterosexual you don't have to chose or not chose to be attracted to the same sex.
Meanwhile you've not told us the day you chose that happened I want to be attracted to the opposite sex and not same sex, the day you were given the choice, we are waiting.
Iqguy: So how has the Netherlands coped since legalizing gay marriage? Even some of its fiercest Dutch critics now say it was a good move. " At the time I opposed same -sex marriage, I was led by fear ," Hannie van Leeuwen, leader of the Christian Democrat party and opponent to the gay marriage law , was reported to have said just a few years later. " Having seen so many happy gay and lesbian couples getting married , I realize I was wrong. I don' t understand anymore what made me treat gays and lesbians differently from other citizens ." And evidence suggests that while discrimination was far from totally eradicated by the Netherland ' s gay marriage law , the institution of marriage has suffered no ill effects at all . " Heterosexual couples did not turn away from the institution of marriage, nor did the world isolate my country , " Boris Dittrich, a former member of Netherland ' s parliament, wrote in 2011. " Civilization as we know it did not end . And, as far as I can tell , God did not punish the Netherlands ."
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So how has the Netherlands coped since legalizing gay marriage? Even some of its fiercest Dutch critics now say it was a good move. " At the time I opposed same -sex marriage, I was led by fear ," Hannie van Leeuwen, leader of the Christian Democrat party and opponent to the gay marriage law , was reported to have said just a few years later. " Having seen so many happy gay and lesbian couples getting married , I realize I was wrong. I don' t understand anymore what made me treat gays and lesbians differently from other citizens ." And evidence suggests that while discrimination was far from totally eradicated by the Netherland ' s gay marriage law , the institution of marriage has suffered no ill effects at all . " Heterosexual couples did not turn away from the institution of marriage, nor did the world isolate my country , " Boris Dittrich, a former member of Netherland ' s parliament, wrote in 2011. " Civilization as we know it did not end . And, as far as I can tell , God did not punish the Netherlands ."
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you are right, Netherland is very peaceful compare to most countries. But do you take note of the different diseases linked to homosexuality? moreover, if you admit the fact that human beings are still very limited in the way we can diagnose societal ills and the way they are linked. that is why we must trust the one that knows the end from the beginning- God. history as also taught us its best to follow is advice. you will of course dismiss my argument if you think there is no God.
Except that since all these years the Netherlands still have very low rates for any disease, natural disaster or economic meltdown.
Doctormarrvin: Some scientists might have accepted homosexuality as one of the many enigmas of nature but trust me,some scientists did,not all. I've copied some proofs from the net as I can't copy all so you can request for the link if you're interested in reading more about it. "Biomedical Treatments of Homosexuality Storm clouds are growing in the treatment literature. Although it may seem that the battle over the diagnoses and treatment of homosexuality is over, that is an illusion. A new threat to gay people has arisen resulting from the work of biomedical research in the United States and Germany. These researchers have introduced a whole range of theories and treatments that can be used either to prevent the development of homosexuality or to eliminate it in adults. Three techniques for identifying the cause of, and then eliminating, homosexuality has been described: surgical techniques, use of hormones, and prenatal research. Each derives from the belief that biology is destiny." This shows effort were been made to cure it and some researchers are still actively interested in finding a cure.
Except that this is not at all an accepted scientific research that has yielded any result. any body can be doing research but that's not the accepted position of the scientific community.
I will kindly refer you to my topic how I struggled with homosexuality for years.
Gods word told us to speak the truth with love. You are Gods creation, fearfully and wonderful made and very much in Gods eternal purpose. However am sorry to inform you that God never created anyone of us Gay including you and I. This is in simple terms the manifestation of the fallen man, or you can say Adamic nature. Jesus is the answer till. Gods grace has helped me not on this, I got married last year also and enjoying my marriage. My wife knows everything about me concerning this matter before she even accepted my proposal. You can ask anything further and I pray my testimony be a source of encouragement to you too. Remain blessed
I always have a few problems with the numerous "religious" especially Christian stories of people who claimed to be ex-gays probably because I've met a few and I've read a lot of stories on such online Christian forums. The first people I usually have problems are those who say they still have same-sex desire but have been fighting daily to abstain from such acts because like I said before homosexual orientation is not about sex but about emotions, feelings and attractions. Whether you do that till you die you are still as gay as the person who acted upon the desire. Some go on to marry(even gay non-christians do this) and some do not like the famous ex-gay Donnie mclurkin. The second people who don't so much surprise me are those who after years of claiming ex-gay revert back to being gay, their stories are littered everywhere. Finally, there are those who claim they are ex-gay when in fact they were never gay. They were just people who probably had gay sex. Because again being gay is about who you are attracted to and not about sex. a gay person is only attracted to members of the same sex, except of course they are bisexuals.
thinkmoney: my brother, this life has really gotten many problems. one of it is the prevalence of wrong and sometimes dangerous advice. this can be blamed on the social media, where everybody seems to have gotten a voice now. it is so serious that sound advice which is rare get rarer when its get drown out by this plethora other advice you get online. so my brother, this is my informed advice. the world is in constant degeneration and degradation, right from the time our first parents lost it. There are many anomalies, genetical, environmental and so on. however, it must be noted that God isn't responsible for this, rather, he should be credited for his program on bringing us back to that perfect state we lost. in the meantime we have to live with these many woes. everybody as their problems -although the degree to how it affects them varies - this too is a result of the state of the world today. its true there are people that are genetically predispose to homosexuality, but its also true that there are people that are genetically predispose to many other abnormalities, like kleptomania. but should a kleptomaniac say because he is wired that way just give in to the urge to be pilfering? no the kleptomaniac, the homosexual and other people suffering from other anomalies should keep fighting the urge! open up to people that you trust my brother. don't be depressed. the only person really that you have to please is God, and he is the only person that really understands and know your weaknesses. so if you sometimes seem to fail in your struggle against this ill, don't resign yourself, pick yourself up and continue fighting. one good advice again is that like somebody fighting addiction, you should shun places and people that might make engaging in 'the act' easy. live is constant fight my brother. embrace the lot life as dished you and deal with it. if at the end, God must judge you, I am certain he will consider your weaknesses and the prevailing conditions. that is why he is a better judge than any one. how often do you hear earthly judges referred to as A loving Judge? that is what Jehovah God is.
Can we just for sense sake stop comparing being a kleptomaniac with homosexuality. A kleptomaniac steals what does not belong to him and hurts others but a consensual relationship between two consenting adults of the same sex hurts no one, and does not affect society in any way. Netherlands the first country to legalize gay marriage, ( yes it wasn't the UK or the US-who are still struggling to legalize it that were the first like I'm sure most of you who don't read think) are one of the most peaceful nations in the world and there has been no societal anarchy or anything of the sort since they legalized it some 20 years ago.
Iqguy: The basic conclusion of the argument of “against nature”—as thrown around by Anti-LGBTQIA+ proponents is that non-heterosexual orientations are not natural. Allow me to reiterate that this argument is however fallacious and built up simply to support discrimination against sexual minorities. But before I start discounting this fallacy, I will briefly discuss the term Natural. Natural is defined in the Oxford English Dictionary as: 1. existing in or derived from nature; not made or caused by humankind , 2. in accordance with the nature of or circumstances surrounding someone or something. Dictionary.com defines Natural as: 1. existing or formed by nature 2. based on the state of things in nature; constituted by nature. It is based on the above definitions and many others which are beyond the length of this write-up that the argument that other minority sexual orientations are unnatural sits: That queer sexual orientations are not found in nature, not formed by nature, and, ultimately, are not part and parcel of the make-up of individuals who identify as queer. One of the basic tenets of the “against nature” argument is that homosexuality cannot be natural because the basic requirement of nature from sexuality is procreation; so nature could not have created homosexuals because they cannot procreate. A question I once heard asked at a conference which goes thus: “How can you say ‘contrary’ sexual orientations are natural when nature requires heterosexual orientation to prevent humans from going extinct?” exemplifies this belief. First, there is no such thing as a ‘contrary sexual orientation’ -as evidenced by the absence of this term in any modern scientific journal on the topic of sexual orientation. Indeed there is a common sexual orientation and other less common but equally valid ones. The phrase ‘contrary sexual orientation’ is totally heteronormative—assuming that everyone is/was born heterosexual and everything is about heterosexuality—and connotes a Heterosexual versus Non-Heterosexual war of orientations—the one striving to end the other. This is not so. Also, Species do not ONLY need to procreate to ensure their survival but must function as a community to transfer genes that are overall favourable onto the next generation. That is procreation is not the ONLY contribution that members of a species have to make to prevent the extinction of the species. This is explained by the concepts of the gene-centered theory of evolution, and the “Helper in the Nest” hypothesis. These theories hold that the genetic contribution to homosexuality has been preserved through time because this helps support other related genes that favour propagation of the human species. My point here is that there is no need for nature to procreate numerous offsprings without favouring them for survival, they will just die off and this is evidenced by the fact that Neanderthal man and other older fossil records of man showed smaller skulls (corresponding to smaller brain size) and were less intelligent. A study done by Andrea Camperio Ciani and Elena Pellizzari in 2012, [http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0051088.] found that non-parental females (aunts and grandmothers) in the maternal lines of homosexual males were more fertile than those of heterosexual males, suggesting that the genetic contribution to fertility in women was being carried along by nature with male homosexuality. This study agreed with other similar studies (http://www.nytimes.com/1993/07/16/us/report-suggests-homosexuality-is-linked-to-genes.html?pagewanted=all, http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2014/11/study-gay-brothers-may-confirm-x-chromosome-link-homosexuality, https://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/feb/14/genes-influence-male-sexual-orientation-study) which found out homosexual males were more related on the maternal side and also found similar genetic regions in about 97% of gay men in a locus on the X chromosome(Xq28) which was usually contributed by the mother for genotypic males. The research helps throw some light on the fact that female fertility and homosexual tendencies are relevant to preventing extinction as a pair. It is evident therefore that nature has persistently preserved both heterosexual and other sexual orientations through generations because NATURE REQUIRES HETEROSEXUAL, HOMOSEXUAL, BISEXUAL and OTHER SEXUAL ORIENTATIONS TO PREVENT HUMANS FROM GOING EXTINCT. This is because other orientations obviously contribute to the propagation of the Homo sapiens species and no way results in its extinction because they exist in balance with heterosexual orientation which can still procreate. This, however, doesn’t even mean that people of other sexual orientations are infertile and cannot reproduce. In the US 37% of LGBT people have a child, about 60% of which are biological. If we know anything about nature and science, it is that history has shown how much of nature science is still yet to uncover. So I can imagine there are many more unknown contributions of the diverse minority sexual orientations in nature that science is even yet to explore. Another basis of this argument comes from the direction of the anatomical forms of male and female animal species. It states that animals are usually heterosexual male and female in nature and there are no Homosexual or Bisexual animals. Examples of this part of the argument include statements like: “Have you seen two male dogs having sex before?” “Even animals have male and female, and its male lion mating with female lion, not male and male or female and female.” “God made man with penis and woman with vagina for a reason.” This argument has long been refuted by nature itself which has offered more than enough examples of Homosexual and Bisexual behaviours in the animal kingdom. Nature has also fortunately blessed our diverse world with intersex members of species (regarded in certain parlances as haemaphrodites) who have natural anatomical sexual organs conforming to neither Male nor Female strictly (ambiguous Instruments) or having both. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behavior , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animalshttp://community.lovenature.com/wild/why-do-some-animals-exhibit-homosexual-behaviour When the Anti-LGBTQIA+ proponents see these scientific facts stacked against them, they say, ‘Just because animals do it doesn’t mean we should adopt animal behaviours.’ Well, the point is: Homosexuals, Bisexuals and Other sexual minorities are not “doing it” because animals do it, they are just being their innate self while referring Anti-LGBTQIA+ proponents to the animal kingdom as a genuine and untampered—at least in this aspect, unless someone is of the opinion that people are converting animals in the wild into gay animals— part of nature. Finally, scientifically speaking, man is classified under the Kingdom animalia and If the Homo sapiens species were the only member of the kingdom to exhibit non-heterosexual orientations we would have questioned the scientific validity of these orientations being natural but this is not so. What is however impossible to find in the Kingdom Animalia is the hate directed against people of minority sexual orientations. Heterosexuals always say they “came into” their sexual orientations naturally irrespective of how they first explored sex and they are believed but yet promoters of the “against nature” argument find it hard to believe Homosexuals, Bisexuals and Other sexual minorities when they say they “came into” their attractions not from any learned conscious behaviour and irrespective of what their first sexual explorations were. If heterosexuality is natural and not learned, then other variations of sexuality should be easily understood to be natural and not learnt. The funniest thing is that some Anti LGBTQIA+ supporters say homosexual tendencies are strong desires with genetic predispositions—so are stealing, murder and criminal behaviours. The comparison however, is not apt because it is trying to equate Homosexuality, Bisexuality and Other sexual orientations to behaviours that are harmful to society. The flaws of this argument are exposed below. 1. OTHER SEXUAL ORIENTATIONS (proven genetic contributions); “may indeed be natural” 2. MURDER, THEFT (might have genetic predispositions; “may indeed be natural but are harmful and so are considered immoral’ 3. CONCLUSION OF THE ARGUMENT IS, “Other Sexual orientations are harmful and also immoral too” (AN UNTRUE STATEMENT THAT IS INFERRED IN THE ARGUMENT), “so surely you cannot say they are natural if not you are also saying Murder and Theft are natural”.
Again, no orientation is in itself harmful and several studies have shown that Homosexuality, Bisexuality and Other Sexual orientations are no more harmful than Heterosexual orientation. My point here is that, if you can prove that genetics supports predisposition to stealing, murder and other crimes, then those behaviours can be said to be natural but are not acceptable because they are harmful. However, non-heterosexual orientations are both natural and harmless and are not crimes against humanity. Whether they are harmful or harmless is by the way another debate. Bringing it into the argument of “against nature” just shows that the Anti-LGBTQIA+ proponents are in a hurry to get to their real intention of this argument which is to have any reason at all to hate and discriminate minority sexual orientations. I also hear supporters of the “against nature” argument claim that there is no gay gene and so there is no genetic support for other sexual orientations. Permit me to say that people who say this are just brandishing their ignorance on the subject of genetics and its research. In medicine there are numerous conditions and traits with known genetic predisposition for which there are no pin-point single gene culprits. The absence of a particular gene culprit for all cases in conditions such as Schizophrenia, Down’s syndrome and Parkinson’s disease does not dispute the fact that it has inheritance and genetics as a major contributor in its aetiology. In the area of sexual orientation, research has not been extensive for obvious social reasons but the evidence in support of a genetic predisposition is just as strong as that for other conditions in the science of medicine so this ‘show me the exact gay gene’ argument is as invalid as ‘show me the exact straight gene’. One very common type of genetic research which helps scientist to understand the impact of nature and nurture in a situation is the twin studies. One such study by J. Michael Bailey and Richard Pillard studied male homosexuality among Monozygotic twins (MZ), Dizygotic twins (DZ) and non-related adopted brothers. The study found that 52% of MZ twins both identified as gay, while 22% of DZ twins and only 5% of non-related adopted brothers were so. This showed that the more closely genetically linked people are, the more likely they exhibit the same sexuality. This evidence was repeated by another study and found to be true however not in the same percentages. Obviously, nurture also contributes to what an individual becomes albeit as far as sexuality is concerned nature surely contributes a great quota. This video link gives a rounded view of the genetic theories that support innate homosexual predispositions. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pP-yZ9jOVnk. Perhaps in another discourse, I will debunk the Anti-LGBTQIA+ argument which say that Homosexual, Bisexual and other sexual orientations are learned behaviours from the media and Pro-LGBTQIA+ societies. The shocking truth is, in many extremely homophobic countries like Uganda, Nigeria and many countries in the Middle East where there is almost zero show of Homosexual affection in the media and most representations of any non heterosexual orientation is usually negative, there exist a significant LGBTQIA population. Even in Nazi Germany where homosexuality was punishable by death, love letters were still recently unearthed of two gay veterans from the German army. In many places, being queer is a cultural taboo and also criminalized. So the big question is, why would so many people ‘choose’ to be hated outcasts? My only plausible answer is NATURE, NATURE, AND NATURE.
escodotman: Your explaination has no basis at all. Where did you see me mention the Bible? There's a reason humans exist in opposites sexes, when you want to justify a wrong and immoral occurence in the society, then you quickly rush to describe people as being Biblical. Homosexuality is immoral, so as Paedophiles and those addicted to stealing and so. Or should you aslo justify those who like to sleep with children and babies, and say we should wait till science prove they are right and not evil? Don't be funny please.
"I also hear supporters of the “against nature” argument claim that there is no gay gene and so there is no genetic support for other sexual orientations. Permit me to say that people who say this are just brandishing their ignorance on the subject of genetics and its research. In medicine there are numerous conditions and traits with known genetic predisposition for which there are no pin-point single gene culprits. The absence of a particular gene culprit for all cases in conditions such as Schizophrenia, Down’s syndrome and Parkinson’s disease does not dispute the fact that it has inheritance and genetics as a major contributor in its aetiology. In the area of sexual orientation, research has not been extensive for obvious social reasons but the evidence in support of a genetic predisposition is just as strong as that for other conditions in the science of medicine so this ‘show me the exact gay gene’ argument is as invalid as ‘show me the exact straight gene’. One very common type of genetic research which helps scientist to understand the impact of nature and nurture in a situation is the twin studies. One such study by J. Michael Bailey and Richard Pillard studied male homosexuality among Monozygotic twins (MZ), Dizygotic twins (DZ) and non-related adopted brothers. The study found that 52% of MZ twins both identified as gay, while 22% of DZ twins and only 5% of non-related adopted brothers were so. This showed that the more closely genetically linked people are, the more likely they exhibit the same sexuality. This evidence was repeated by another study and found to be true however not in the same percentages. Obviously, nurture also contributes to what an individual becomes albeit as far as sexuality is concerned nature surely contributes a great quota. This video link gives a rounded view of the genetic theories that support innate homosexual predispositions.
You obviously didn't read my post on page 15 so I've brought out a part of that quote. And please don't try to bamboozle me with the fact that you went to medical school, I know a lot of Drs who despite haven taken the Hippocratic oath have allowed prejudice cloud their role to provide health for all irrespective of race, status, gender, sexual orientation or religious beliefs because I myself will graduate from medical school next year. And please stop clumping consensual relationship between two consenting individuals as immoral with "sex with children and animals who cannot give consent."
TributeLifeStyl: So you are supporting something that the Almighty God Is Against . Be careful about the statements you make or the things you defend . THINK OF JUDGEMENT DAY
I will be the least careful about what I say or defend. You are not my father, mother or my God, so just move along. Don't beat yourself or die of hypertension on judgement because it will never be the responsibility of incapable and imperfect humans like yourself. Let God do the judging. Why are you the one coming to say what God is against. When there are numerous gays, millions in his church. Even gay Christian leaders over the world. When Bishop Desmond Tutu is there supporting Gay rights fully clothed in the knowledge and robe of a Godly leader. Why hasn't he come to slay them, since according to you he is against them, why is he still prospering them when you have condemn them do you not see that you and God are in opposite action, unless they've told you some lies all the way and you need go check it yourself with an open mind.
Let me tell you what God is saying-"Don't use me to defend your hate. Even though you never knew me, you will still hate gay's. For a moment remove me from the picture and you will see that you hate gay's from your heart. the hate is from you because that's what is in your heart" This is the reason why perpertual fornicators, thieves in Naija and all the likes come out to condemn gays, � In the name of God!!!
I don't go onto argument when it comes to The Almighty God. The Creator of the Universe, The beginning and the End. One who there is none like that have ever existed or will ever exist. Like I said before this world is big enough for anyone to do whatever pleases them but please don't drag others into your shameful act hide in your lust until in hold a grib on you. If you are gay or lesbian you are Cursed by God Himself The Creator of the Universe. Believe me you will prefer you are cursed by man than to be Cursed by God Himself. Only His Son Jesus Christ can save you. And for you to list several gods that means you don't even know Christ. I pray you find change as you live your kind of life along the way.
Now just shut up, what about the Op that accepted Jesus probably very long ago. what about those that are Pastors, Youth Leaders, Choir Ministers that have accepted God and prays to him and he listens to them you will say. See you are only seeing your side of the narrative because we are in a Homophobic society. The gays blend in to the Christian ways, without you all knowing, they are in all the churches(the ones who can cope with the hate that some of you Nigerians spew in the name of a God who is love and has probably looked away from you as a Nation because of your level of hate) where they minister and nothing happens, fire does not fall on anyone's head as you would like to believe because I've seen such ministers.
I never believe science. Most of it are cock and bull crap. About the one taught us as we grew up about man generated from monkey, the homo erectus, homosapien and all that do you believe in it especially when it only applies to blacks. I believe in the Word of God I believe in the bible. Everything that has to do with life both scientist are killing themselves over are all there. That is how powerful it is. Science is made by men studied by men and will die in this world. Read the bible in ROM 1:25-31 its simply written there. The bible said God has Cursed this people because of their sins in lust and it was tagged a shameful act. All this crab you are brining in will not change the fact that homosexuals are cursed people roaming about the earth. What pains me is when people are Cursed they are suppose to hide or find a way to break away from the Curse by finding a Cure. But what I see is a long sermon being preached in adoring the shameful lifestyle and even trying to be contented with it by luring others into the Curse.
And to think you typed this with a phone that years of scientific research produced, you must be full of cock and bull crap. And to think that you do not even understand what the principle of evolution is, all you have heard of it is that they said "black man came from monkey" like I said before you obviously don't read. If not you will thank your stars for all the privileges science has added to your life. Scientist are not killing themselves over anything, they can comfortably point to the thousand and one breakthroughs that they have used to make the world a better place, from computers to medical equipment to artificial intelligence to space exploration, geography. Science keeps evolving. O believe in God because even he believes in science and knowledge as ways to make man better, so just get your act together and stop speaking like God hates science.
I ASKED YOU A SIMPLE QUESTION SINCE, And until you answer stop commenting: How long did you have to practice before you entered into the habit of Heterosexuality because you claimed that it was doing the same thing for many times that makes it a habit( Even though this was among the scientific research you so hate, I want you to know it doesn't apply to sexuality, Homosexuality or Heterosexuality)
You obviously have not read Romans 1 carefully or you didn't get my comment. This people who are gay, some have been Christian all their lives, some have been gay since they were 7, always believed in God and we're never given to lust but we're still homosexual, THINK, Why will God curse them and leave all the heterosexual rapist, fornicators and lustful people who actually sleep around with different women. THINK...
And don't quite Romans 1 for me. The scripture clearly talks about people who did not acknowledge God or refused to retain him in their knowledge as God. AND NOTHING ABOUT AN ANCIENT CURSE THAT RESULTED BECAUSE OF LUST. Do you know there funny thing. MOST OF US WHO ARE GAY haven been born in Nigeria just like the Op have always acknowledged God as God. Fervent Christians, Choristers, Choir leaders, Pastors, Fellowship Leaders, I know a lot of them, probably personally over 150, some still serving some still leading. I was once a leader in my class fellowship. So this scripture is not supposed to apply to us. We are not supposed to be gay if this scripture is what makes people gay. I mean, after praying. fasting and shutting myself away from everything on the internet for close to 2 years, please, CONJURE another cause from your imagination and look for Bible passages interpreted by homophobes to support it.
Its a Curse from God and Curse goes from generation to generation ROM 1:25-31 When I said it was a habit I wasn't referring to this generation I was referring to when it all started. Years even dated BC. So yes people of this generation can be born into it all resulted from lust of the past.
Did you even think this through. What scientific facts do you have to spew what you just did. Scratch that, where in religious text did they write that people become gay because of the lust of ancient people. Ha I'm ashamed of such reasoning from a 1st century youth, no wonder someone will confidently tell you snake swallowed 36 million Naira, they've seen you as experts in believing delusions.
nothernstar: I said so cos she was supporting gay. That's why I suggested for her to give her husband or boyfriend to be satisfying him. Since she can give him an advice that can help him.
So she doesn't have a right to support her ideologies? and the reasonable way to argue in favour of your ideology is to make an obviously unreasonable statement?
Bro everything you have written here are all wrong mentally. Homosexuality heterosexuality is all mental degradation to satisfy lost. It doesn't mean it is right. Please listen to me. I don't know why I'm still continuing this conversation but my message is the act of it all. I love men I respect men so when I hear alot about this sexual behavior I don't seem to think much more about the females because I see thiers as an act or foley but when it comes to men especially young men it hurts me. Your orientation is wrong my dear. It does not account to anything natural to be involved sexually with your fellow man. This thing had been going on for generations now and the cause is lust. People go deep in lost and try to do things that are out of the natural and study have it that if you continue a habbit for more than 28days it will stick with you. Now coming to this generation people and nations are embracing this lifestyle simply because people are not deterring from it. Its an habbit generated from lost and you would agree with me that every habit can be detached from. Do not say anyone was born into homosexuality. The taught if sexual pleading in both male and female is what generated to this idea of having fun with a fellow of same sex in the first place. Get your priority right abandon sexual pleading, live life enjoy it, work hard, be happy and make others happy when its tine to get married get married and disassociate yourself from this man to man idea please.
It is not a habit, I cannot agree with you and it's simply because even when o was in primary 3, I liked a boy in my class, it wasn't anything sexual, it wasn't any learned habit, I was probably 6 or 7 years then, I probably had never seen a phone or watched any TV portrayal of anything gay, I was still in primary school in a relatively rural area of orhuwhorun in the year 2000. And stop making it sound like women are less than men because it is a lie.
Bro everything you have written here are all wrong mentally. Homosexuality heterosexuality is all mental degradation to satisfy lost. It doesn't mean it is right. Please listen to me. I don't know why I'm still continuing this conversation but my message is the act of it all. I love men I respect men so when I hear alot about this sexual behavior I don't seem to think much more about the females because I see thiers as an act or foley but when it comes to men especially young men it hurts me. Your orientation is wrong my dear. It does not account to anything natural to be involved sexually with your fellow man. This thing had been going on for generations now and the cause is lust. People go deep in lost and try to do things that are out of the natural and study have it that if you continue a habbit for more than 28days it will stick with you. Now coming to this generation people and nations are embracing this lifestyle simply because people are not deterring from it. Its an habbit generated from lost and you would agree with me that every habit can be detached from. Do not say anyone was born into homosexuality. The taught if sexual pleading in both male and female is what generated to this idea of having fun with a fellow of same sex in the first place. Get your priority right abandon sexual pleading, live life enjoy it, work hard, be happy and make others happy when its tine to get married get married and disassociate yourself from this man to man idea please.
How long did you have to practice for heterosexuality to be your lifestyle?
Do you even know what lust is. Do you know there are gay couples who've been with just each other for 40 years, even when laws of their country were against them.
TributeLifeStyl: Bros stare at a hot chick for hours , you will be healed
How old do you think this guy is, probably know his early twenties. Do you honestly think he has never seen a hot chick in his life. Depends on where he lives, he probably has seen hotter chicks than you, His brain is not just interested, his mind was made different from yours. We just have to accept all our differences.
lol of course he won't publicly Americans dont joke with their defense trust me when i tell ya u will never see a tranny combatant
And to think that there are thousands of Men to Women and Women to men who have served and currently serve in the US Armed Forces, all you just had to do was google. Last year, alot of them were even on the news channel speaking in courts as to why public funds (tax payers money) as part of their entitlement should cover for their gender reassignment surgery bills. And they won.
nothernstar: pls can give him your husband, brother or boyfriend to do it with.
Again hypocritical Nigerians who are obsessed with sex and think everyone is like them, that everything is about sex. Why will she give her husband, brother or boyfriend when they are not gay, Do you think at all? honest question.
escodotman: What do you mean how long did it take scientists to explain genetic anomalies?? I don't understand you at all because homosexuality had been in existence even before Jesus came to this world, during the time of Sodom and Gomorah, that was many thousands of years ago!! It would never take science that long to explain it if it has any Genetic or Anatomical inference. It means it is not and never will be a product of nature!
Do you read at all, do you even know how genetic studies are done. Do you know if those principles have been applied to the study of homosexuality. What if I tell you they have and that they prove that homosexuality is as genetic in basis as hypertension and Diabetes Mellitus or some other chronic illness.
LGBTQIA horde... You simply can imagine. Its so sad that tour lives are being run by the what you see on TV about the Americans and Europeans. So all this to make love to a fellow man. Infact this is nothing but sexual madness more than what even animals will indulge in. The write up you are quoting was written by someone like you trying to justify the reason for a man to have sex with another man. Nonsense.
Actually it was written by me, after I decided to read. I had tortured myself for 2 years trying to be straight and Christian until I decided to do a lot of reading. the more you become enlightened the more you decide to think for yourself and apply reason rather than act based on emotions, religious sentiments and all, that is exactly why Nigeria is not progressing; such thought patterns have been shown millions of times over NEVER TO CREATE PROGRESS. And like said before because all your hypocritical minds can see is sex, you believe this is all about wanting to have sex with someone or a butthole. You apparently do not know what homosexuality is maybe you should ask a gay person. Do you realise that heterosexuals take part in anal sex probably even more than gay people. Do you know there are gay people who have never had sex and some who have stopped having sex? but again I don't think you read at all so all these might be new to you.
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