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tomakint: IJEBU ORIGIN & HISTORY

THE Ijebu People inhabit the South-Central part of Yoruba land - a territory that is bounded in the North by Ibadan, in the East by Ondo, Okitipupa and the West by Egbaland. . . .

Please source your post. Unless you, tomakint, published a book.

macof: Modern man evolved from ape-like mammals whom would have journeyed the world and settled in various places until evolution to man took place.

So I still stand that Ife is the main origin of Yoruba people.

In the absence of scientific proof. . . I personally prefer our own creation myth theories too, o jare.

[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]i disagree with the theory to some extent.

i believe evolution happened after the migration of a pre-human ancestor.[/quote]There's a lot of dates thrown around for human evolution. Lucy is supposed to be that human fossil from East Africa. Not sure how old she is.

So, if humanity started 5 million years ago, but modern humans (homo sapien sapiens) developed 40,000 years ago, how long would it have taken for Yorubas to be distinct from whatever group they came from?

BTW, I was just checking this (human evolution) again, and it annoys me to no end the inherent racism in this "scientific" conclusions. In one breath they say Neanderthals (white European ancestors) were separate from modern humans, then in another breath, they draw charts implying that Neanderthals grew into modern homo sapien sapiens! So much nonsense. They will find any way to label blacks as "less than." We are not fools!

human evolution
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0932663.html

chart (outdated?)
http://www.unmaskingevolution.com/images/imaginative.gif

P.S. I don't wish to derail. It might be too removed from the topic.

Katsumoto: Perhaps.

But I only made that point because Metaphysical stated that Johnson did not source Sultan Bello in Clapperton's book. If he had read Johnson's book, he would have known that.

Johnson is not the sole authority and that is why I have read books from other Yoruba historians and philosophers.

Okay. I did not mean to imply you have not.

Lemme catch up on new posts here since this thread was re-opened. . .

Katsumoto: Have you even read Samuel Johnson's book?

I am certain Samuel Johnson also had his own biases. I cannot accept him to be the sole authority on Yoruba history.

donphilopus: I've requested for the closure of some of these thread, but it seems none of the MODs want to close it..

If you know the work is too much, I'll request for the nomination of the 4th mod now, because people have volunteered to do it

I hereby crown you 4th mod! Don't abuse your position o.

caseless: i'm not saying age is a barrier; all i'm saying is that, d boys should be given chance to grow with other youth competitions. that boy in man u is jst 18, wat stops iheanacho frm playing at such level? nothing! he can even do better, but he shldn't be distracted.

I understand your concern. But, if managed properly, there is nothing wrong with a 17-year old playing with the senior team. Michael Owen at 18-years old was a revelation at the 1998 world cup. Messi, Rooney, Pele, all represented their countries in the senior team when they were teenagers. It's a great thing!

Unforgettable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fV7XxkqLjDE

kufreabasi2013: All of you that are saying men, you are yet to meet a woman that eats like a cow, some times I wonder if there is a big pot in the stomach of some women.

Yes. The uterus.

It holds on to all the food in case there's a baby to feed.

[quote author=Area-Fada].
I will not stoop to your uncouth level. We now live in a global village. Anyone can choose to represent country they're eligible to represent.

Bigotry has no place. Or maybe those Africans/their parents should have stayed in Africa?[/quote]You came in here blindly flinging mud. I was actually just having fun with you despite your asinine comments.

Stay the hell outta my way if you're gonna act like a punk!

sodium

bass

5:0. 5:0!

Done deal. See you in Brasil, Suarez!

I'd prefer the last qualifying match to be exciting and actually suspenseful. This is so anti-climactic.

Where's a replay of the Germs-Inglaterra friendly?


Qualified Teams: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_FIFA_World_Cup_qualification

Team - Method of qualif. - Date of qualif. - Finals appearance - Last app. - Prev. best perform. - FIFA Ranking
Brazil Host 30 October 2007 20th 2010 Winners (1958, 1962, 1970, 1994, 2002) 11
Japan AFC Fourth Round Group B Winners 4 June 2013 5th 2010 Round of 16 (2002, 2010) 44
Australia AFC Fourth Round Group B Runners-up 18 June 2013 4th 2010 Round of 16 (2006) 57
Iran AFC Fourth Round Group A Winners 18 June 2013 4th 2006 Group stage (1978, 1998, 2006) 49
South Korea AFC Fourth Round Group A Runners-up 18 June 2013 9th 2010 Fourth place (2002) 56
Netherlands UEFA Group D Winners 10 September 2013 10th 2010 Runners-up (1974, 1978, 2010) 8
Italy UEFA Group B Winners 10 September 2013 18th 2010 Winners (1934, 1938, 1982, 2006) 9
Costa Rica CONCACAF Fourth Round Runners-up 10 September 2013 4th 2006 Round of 16 (1990) 31
United States CONCACAF Fourth Round Winners 10 September 2013 10th 2010 Third place (1930) 13
Argentina CONMEBOL Round Robin Winners 10 September 2013 16th 2010 Winners (1978, 1986) 3
Belgium UEFA Group A Winners 11 October 2013 12th 2002 Fourth place (1986) 5
Switzerland UEFA Group E Winners 11 October 2013 10th 2010 Quarterfinals (1934, 1938, 1954) 7
Germany UEFA Group C Winners 11 October 2013 18th 2010 Winners (1954, 1974, 1990) 2
Colombia CONMEBOL Round Robin Runners-up 11 October 2013 5th 1998 Round of 16 (1990) 4
Russia UEFA Group F Winners 15 October 2013 10th[6] 2002 Fourth place (1966)[7] 19
Bosnia and Herzegovina UEFA Group G Winners 15 October 2013 1st - - 16
England UEFA Group H Winners 15 October 2013 14th 2010 Winners (1966) 10
Spain UEFA Group I Winners 15 October 2013 14th 2010 Winners (2010) 1
Chile CONMEBOL Round Robin 3rd place 15 October 2013 9th 2010 Third place (1962) 12
Ecuador CONMEBOL Round Robin 4th place 15 October 2013 3rd 2006 Round of 16 (2006) 22
Honduras CONCACAF Fourth Round 3rd place 15 October 2013 3rd 2010 Group stage (1982, 2010) 34
Nigeria CAF Third Round Winners 16 November 2013 5th 2010 Round of 16 (1994, 1998) 33
Ivory Coast CAF Third Round Winners 16 November 2013 3rd 2010 Group stage (2006, 2010) 17
Cameroon CAF Third Round Winners 17 November 2013 7th 2010 Quarter-finals (1990) 59
Ghana CAF Third Round Winners 19 November 2013 3rd 2010 Quarter-finals (2010) 23
Algeria CAF Third Round Winners 19 November 2013 4th 2010 Group stage (1982, 1986, 2010) 32
Greece UEFA Play-off Winners 19 November 2013 3rd 2010 Group stage (1994, 2010) 15
Croatia UEFA Play-off Winners 19 November 2013 4th 2006 Third place (1998) 18
Portugal UEFA Play-off Winners 19 November 2013 6th 2010 Third place (1966) 14
France UEFA Play-off Winners 19 November 2013 14th 2010 Winners (1998) 21
Mexico CONCACAF v OFC play-off Winners 20 November 2013 15th 2010 Quarter-finals (1970, 1986) 24

URUGUAY

URU
Line-ups
1Martin SILVA (GK)
2Diego LUGANO (C)
3Diego GODIN
7Cristian RODRIGUEZ
9Luis SUAREZ
11Cristian STUANI
14Nicolas LODEIRO
16Maximiliano PEREIRA
17Egidio AREVALO
21Edinson CAVANI
22Martin CACERES

JOR
Line-ups
12Mohamad SHATNAWI (GK)
2Sharif NASSAR
6Tareq KHATTAB
8Moh dkhair ALJAMMAL
9Adnan HASAN
10Ahmad IBRAHIM
11Oday ZAHRAN
14Abdallah SALIM
15Shadi ABU HASHHASH
17Hatem AQEL (C)
21Mohammad ALDMEIRI

URU - JOR
Welcome to today's match commentary for Uruguay and Jordan's Intercontinental play-off second leg in Montevideo! Oscar Tabarez's Uruguay have a commanding 5-0 advantage after their dominant display in Amman last week. Stay with us for match updates as Uruguay look all but set for a berth at next summer's FIFA World Cup at neighbours Brazil.

4' Jordan will be looking for a vital opening goal to get on the right end of their 5-0 aggregate deficit.

11' Both sides have started out conservatively, neither creating clear-cut chances; something that will not worry Uruguay too much with their heavy aggregate advantage.

http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/preliminaries/matchcast/index.html?matchid=300260871

https://s.wsj.net/public/resources/images/OB-JC868_wcupUR_G_20100702171219.jpg

https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulfletcher/suarez595reuters.jpg

Yes, I am!

"aggregate 5:0"? No chance for Jordan then.

[img]http://www.soccerbyives.net/.a/6a00e54ef2975b88330133f20516d0970b-450wi[/img]

[img]http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/incoming/article511813.ece/ALTERNATES/gallery-large/Uruguay-Ghana-Luis-Suarez-Olegario-Benquerenca-World-Cup-2010-cropped[/img]

OK. I'm not really mad about 2010 anymore.

So the match has started. I didn't see a thread.

I'm rooting against Uruguay rabbit-toothed Suarez and his hand-ball against Ghana in 2010.

https://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01671/suarez2_1671849c.jpg

Macky Mac ti gbogbo wa!

The other story spelt the agent's name wrong. Here's his website. Hmmm.

http://henrygaleano.com/page1.php


https://henrygaleano.com/attachments/Image/HG_passport_photo.jpg

Iheanacho can be in the same class as Messi –Chukwu

NOVEMBER 16, 2013 BY FESTUS ABU 14 COMMENTS

https://edge.punchng.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Kelechi-Iheanacho.jpg
Kelechi Iheanacho

He felt a million things at the same time, including love for his teammates, family and country.

Kelechi Iheanacho was on a high after helping Nigeria beat defending champions Mexico 3-0 at the Mohammad Bin Zayed Stadium in Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates, to win the 2013 FIFA Under-17 World Cup on November 8. He capped off an amazing run in the three-week tournament with a goal in the final to take his tally to six goals and seven assists to emerge as the Golden Ball winner (Most Valuable Player of the competition).

Iheanacho becomes the second Nigerian to win the MVP award at the Under-17 World Cup after Philip Osondu, who won the award at the 1987 edition in Canada.

Like Iheanacho, Osondu was not the highest goal scorer at Canada ’87 but he was voted the best player of the championship.

Iheanacho, who started getting special media attention when he scored four goals in his first match (6-1 defeat of Mexico), has made more headlines since the competition ended.

The agent of the 17-year-old Taye Academy player confirmed during the week that Premier League giants Arsenal are interested in taking Iheanacho to the Emirates Stadium in London.

“I can confirm that Arsenal’s (Chief Scout) Steve Rowley, acknowledged Kelechi Iheanacho’s talents early in the World Cup and has said some very nice words about him,” Henry Galeano was quoted by the IBTimes as saying.

“We’re ecstatic to have another major club like Arsenal following him. That said, the attention is well deserved. Iheanacho’s performance at the World Cup was indeed remarkable.”

The young striker is said to have also attracted interests from Manchester United and Chelsea but former Super Eagles coach Christian Chukwu says the teenage sensation must be guided to reach his potential.

“Iheanacho is a technically gifted player, “ Chukwu told our correspondent on the telephone during the week.

“He is a great player, with proven quality. He showed that at the World Cup.

“Iheanacho can develop to be in the same class as (Lionel) Messi if properly managed. Messi is the best player in the world.

“Messi is a world-class player today because he was properly managed.

“He joined Barcelona at a tender age and the club made him a star. They didn’t rush him but allowed him develop gradually before playing him in the first team.

“Neymar is a big player today because he was also managed very well by his country (Brazil). After playing at Nigeria 2009 (FIFA Under-17 World Cup), he was allowed to grow in the Brazilian league for four years (with Santos) before he joined Barcelona in the summer.

“Iheanacho can be in the same class as Messi and Neymar if managed like them.

“He showed his quality in UAE. He’s not a selfish player. And he contributed to most of our goals.

“Iheanacho did everything at the right time at the tournament. He’s really gifted.

“I’m very happy that he’s being linked with top European clubs. There are reports in the media that Arsenal and Chelsea want to sign him.

“If the reports are true, I think he should seize the opportunity. But he needs proper guidance and the right manager.

“Iheanacho needs a club with the right manager to make it to the top. If he goes into the wrong hand and the wrong club, it may affect his future.”

Chukwu says Iheanacho must not get carried away with his achievements at the World Cup, maintaining that the youngster still has a lot to learn.

“Iheanacho has a bright future ahead of him in the game,” the Nigeria ’80 Africa Cup of Nations winner said.

“But he needs discipline in everything he does.

“He needs discipline to manage success. He must be disciplined when it comes to money and other things.

“Messi has won the World Player of the Year four times because of personal discipline. He has not allowed his money or fame to control him.

“He’s focused and respects his coaches and teammates. He gives his best performance in every game. Iheanacho should emulate him.”

Chukwu, who assisted Sebastine Brodricks-Imasuen to win the maiden edition of the Under-17 World Cup in China in 1985, feels Iheanacho is not mature enough for the Super Eagles.

There have been calls for Stephen Keshi to give the player the opportunity to fight for his place in the senior national team.

Jonathan Akpoborie, who won the China ’85 finals, believes Iheanacho can follow in the footsteps of Germany’s Mario Gotze and Brazil’s Neymar, who broke into their senior national teams after distinguishing themselves at the 2009 FIFA Under-17 World Cup in Nigeria.

“Yes, he should be given a chance to play in the Super Eagles – to prove himself. He has showed that he is a quality striker and when a player is ripe enough he should be moved up,” the former VfB Stuttgart and Wolfsburg striker told our correspondent on the telephone.

“It’s not about promoting him to the senior national team. The kind of football Iheanacho plays is good. He’s a modern striker and we shouldn’t deny him a chance to move up because he’s young.

“If he is unable to cope at the senior level, we can ask him to go to the Flying Eagles.

“Apart from him, there are other players in the Eaglets that should be given a chance to play in the Eagles.”

However, Chukwu suggested the player should be promoted to the Under-20 team to continue his development.

“If Iheanacho is needed by Keshi in the senior national team, he should go in immediately,” the ex-Kenya coach said.

“But for me, Iheanacho should go to the Flying Eagles.

“It’s true that Neymar and Gotze broke into their senior national teams after playing in Nigeria. But our players don’t have the opportunity they have to develop themselves.

“They (Neymar and Gotze) were regarded as big players after representing their countries at the Under-17 World Cup because they broke into the clubs’ first teams.

“Borussia Dortmund (Gotze’s club then) are a big club just like Santos (Neymar’s former club).

“Unfortunately we don’t regard our clubs as big clubs because of the standard of our league.

“If Iheanacho breaks into the first team at Enyimba, Rangers, Kano Pillars and Bayelsa United, that will not be regarded as an achievement because of the situation here.

“If he does that at Arsenal or Dortmund, it’s a big deal.”

Chukwu heaped praise on coach Manu Garba and his assistants – Nduka Ugbade and Emmanuel Amuneke – for guiding the Golden Eaglets to their fourth World Cup title in the UAE.

Nigeria were champions in 1985, 1993 and 2007 before they landed in the UAE for the 15th edition of the cadet tournament.

“Manu, Ugbade and Amuneke deserve credit for getting us a good team for the World Cup,” the ex-Nigeria captain said.

“Without them getting us a good team we won’t be talking about Iheanacho today.

“The players they selected for the competition merited their places in the squad. They are players who enjoy playing the game.

“They are not players who forced themselves to play football but decided to become footballers because they love the game.

“If they are well managed, some of them will play for the likes of Arsenal, Chelsea, Bayern Munich, Barcelona, Real Madid and Manchester United in the future.

“But they must be disciplined and should not be in a hurry to go to Europe. They should gain experience in the domestic league before travelling to Europe for professional football.

“They must ask questions and seek counseling before engaging agents to negotiate contracts on their behalf.

“I’m against our quality players moving to places like Qatar, Vietnam, Romania and India for professional football.

“The players we featured at the World Cup in the UAE are good enough to play for top clubs in England, Spain, Germany and Italy.”

Copyright PUNCH.

http://www.punchng.com/sports/iheanacho-can-be-in-the-same-class-as-messi-chukwu/

This is going to end in tears.

tbaba1234: hehehe, thank you ma!

You're very welcome. I have seen your posts. You're remarkable! I would want my little brother to be like you.

You definitely paid attention in Ile-Kewu. Don't blame me, o jare. They pulled us out of there too soon.


If anyone can suggest prayers that would be appropriate in that situation - when Salat Janazah is not required/appropriate.

I mean, I've already prayed for him, and he has been buried. Although, I couldn't be there.

Surah Yasin is one I hear of a lot that is recited for the dead. Also, it is used in other situations as well. (I read that when I think of my beloved grandfather.)

http://quran.com/36

Thank you, Tbaba. I knew you'd come through. You're awesome, young man!

In Islam, Muslims of their community gather to their collective prayers for the forgiveness of the dead, a prayer is recited and this prayer is known as the Salat al-Janazah (Janazah prayer).

I have a question about Salat-al-Janazah:

Can the prayer be done for a non-Muslim, if I wish? Can I do it alone?

Salaam Aleikum Wa Rahmat ul-Allah.

Recently, a very kind, thoughtful, giving and well-liked family friend unexpectedly passed away. Because of all the thoughts passing through my mind, I thought we might already have a pertinent thread that will provide a place of discussion/condolences for those going through the same thing. But I didn't see (a general) one.

I opened this topic to give us a place to share our feelings about the dearly departed.

If you want to pray for someone who is recently or long-ago deceased, please do so here.

If you simply want to voice out condolences that you can't hold inside, do that too.

Additionally, I very much welcome your suggestions of required or appropriate prayers to recite in memory of the dearly departed.

Shukran.


Note: This is not a condolence thread for me. It is for all of us to remember, share thoughts of, and pray for, deceased loved ones.

Deep Sight: In 2011, Ugandan gay rights activist David Kato was bludgeoned to death at his home after a newspaper splashed photos, names and addresses of gays in Uganda on the front page along with a yellow banner reading 'Hang Them'.

Uganda has repeatedly cracked down on gay activists, and proposed legislation - stalled but still awaiting a hearing before parliament, that would see the death penalty imposed for certain homosexual acts if passed.

http://news.ng.msn.com/africa-news/british-man-in-ugandan-court-for-gay-sex-charges-1

Wasn't Kato killed by another homosexual like himself, someone he knew and allowed to live in his home? We talked about his case extensively on another thread. The last I heard, an arrest of a companion of Kato's was made in the case. It wasn't any anti-homosexual sentiment that caused his death.

[quote author=Area-Fada]Nomski & Isale gan of French haters club

@Isale gan, have you ever expressed gratitude to the French for all these international sports you now enjoy?[/quote]I'm not a French-hater, Olodo. I just want the Africans in their team to play for their fatherland. Merci Beaucoup.

Reposting my comment from a similar thread:

He's just devastated and disappointed. He didn't say the tournament shouldn't take place or that others shouldn't watch. He just can't muster the courage to think of watching others doing what he spent his whole life wishing for. He's a footballer nau, not a speaker. I'm sure he's not very articulate.

"It was probably the last attempt to reach the World Cup with the national team for me. One thing is for sure, a World Cup without me is nothing to watch so it is not worth while to wait for the World Cup,"

Despite the above, I'm sure he'll try again in 4 years.

He's just devastated and disappointed. He didn't say the tournament shouldn't take place or that others shouldn't watch. He just can't muster the courage to think of watching others doing what he spent his whole life wishing for. He's a footballer nau, not a speaker. I'm sure he's not very articulate.

"It was probably the last attempt to reach the World Cup with the national team for me. One thing is for sure, a World Cup without me is nothing to watch so it is not worth while to wait for the World Cup,"

Despite the above, I'm sure he'll try again in 4 years.

I hope they have their second worst performance on the day we meet them in summer of 2014.