₦airaland Forum

I seem to struggle to figure out where we got it wrong as a country. This is sad, so all Fulanis are criminals now. I am of Yoruba ethnicity but even within the Yorubas, there are Omo-ales: the bad heads. This is same for every other tribes. How do we get here, when did being Fulani become a crime? Oh my God!

FreeSpirited:
Apostasy kor... Lol
You cut people's head for both blasphemy and apostasy... Even Judaism that was being practised during Christ period has stopped killing for apostasy.. But will u guys ever stop spilling blood and cutting arms and leg in the name of Allah while exonerating your hypocritic rich folks?
Jesus and the Apostle has no such ruling against apostasy... Jesus taught us to wait for judgement day. But u all turn judge beheading for fun

As I stated earlier, you are not ready for a serious discussion. You don't need to prevaricate the facts here. I, like any other discerning folks expected that you will answer the questions.

FreeSpirited:
Nothing intellectual about a person who can't see the contradiction in 'religion of peace, but capital punishment via sharia' where is the peace..
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The next card u guys play as quid quo pro is saying Crusader and Inquisition history were Christian ideal like Jihad that is a tenet and command in ur scripture... Isn't that being dishonest and ignorant of Teaching of Christ and the Apostles? Pls don't reply... No one is ready for baseless argument

Let's assume you know what you are saying, so educate us.
Who were the Crusaders?
In the Bible, or rather Bibles, what is the punishment for apostasy?
What was the teaching of Jesus and the practices of the Apostles regarding apostasy?
When was the ruling on apostasy changed in the Bible and why? Did your "God" change his mind, and he wasn't thinking straight at first?
Talking about Jihad, what do you know about it? When do apply Jihad on a Nation?

FreeSpirited:
What do you mean childish.. Isn't that the truth of your religion?
Wasn't Islam spread through conquest and brainwashing and beating of young children?

Nope. It wasn't. You know absolutely nothing about Islam and, more worryingly, Christianity, your religion as well. So, I won't waste my time educating or debating with you on this subject. Clearly, you are not ready and mature enough for such an intellectual discussion.

TheBillyonaire:
This is just one of multiple of reasons I do not share space with a muslim community, the noise, the roadside kneeling and hitting heads, the dirtiness of the environs after pouring water from kettles disgust me.

The loud speakers and noise, does not make sense in a generation that has phone alarms to know time.

Are you guys ever going to evolve?

How about the noises from the loudspeaker or those made by congregants in the church? HYPOCRATE!

FreeSpirited:
Islam is a contradiction perpetuated through threat and brainwashing from infancy before the logical faculty is developed in adulthood.

Please, is there a way the published article has attacked or hurt you or your religion? Instead of commending the writer for his thoughtfulness, you decided to attack his religion. This attitude is uncivil and childish.

For example if I want to get BTC, I should get it for the price it is worth in the market with my USDT, if the seller is adding interest, then it is haram. same way I should get yhe price of dollars for what it is worth in the market.

This is the little I know.[/quote]You have spoken well, except here. Look the hadith said like for like, USDT and BTC aren't the same. So it is okay if a seller want to sell at his or her price so far you are not forced to buy from him or her. Please read the hadith again.

Also the concept of hand-to-hand is a subject for possession like you explained. So far the possession of the traded items have changed from the seller to the buyer and vice verse.

This is my understanding of the subject matter

truthCoder:
This is a quote from the OP:
‘ But when the deal is concerning the same type of currency, such as selling one dollar for two dollars, that is not permissible because it is a type of riba.’

Any deal that involves me getting less or more than my monetary investment is riba.

A POS merchant collects funds from my bank account and gives me an amount lesser than the amount he has collected. That is riba according to this definition.

A bank collects cash from me as deposits but gives me access to a lesser amount. That too is riba.

Any deal (including services) should return my exact amount to me else it turns into riba.

That is the clear interpretation from the OP’s post.

Even in islamic banking, it is seen as riba to collect interest (which is a service charge for lending out) so your justification holds no water.

In relation to cultural relativism, i am using islam to explain islam and not using another culture. If islam says something is riba, why are you trying to say itnis not riba?

You get it wrong in my opinion, like you said the POS merchant withdraws for you or whatever thing they do. it is a service, not a trade. They helped you to withdraw with the POS machine. That's a service, my respected friend.

Bintabisiriyu2:
Muslims are fools, one day fucking your wife would be prohibited, then your foolish imam can now secretly bang her for you

How so? There are foolish people everywhere and in every religion. The other day a pastor recommended 30 or 60 days of fasting for his followers and also told the married among them not to have sex within that period.

I don't understand his reasoning may you can be of help. What I know is it okay to abstain from food and drink and even sex in the recommended days. What of the evening when you break your fast, when you eat and drink. Can't you have sex with your wife at that time too?

Dybala11:
That scenario is wrong nao, selling old notes for new is all shades of wrong. What I meant by my question is that POS agents help to do transaction in the same currency and they get paid for that e.g Say I want to withdraw money from my account, if I place a withdrawal of 10k at a POS terminal of course the POS agent will deduct some token from the 10k. That's like giving in 10k to get say 9,500.

That can be categorized as the cost of service rendered. Although it is expensive, one can only imagine the stress the POS agent also went through to get those cash. The POS agents are ordinary Nigerians like me and you. They don't own a bank nor do they print the money. It is well, may the Lord help our country.

Dybala11:
So all POS operators are going to hell right??

Wait, do they sell new naira notes for old naira notes? Is that even legal according to the Nigerian constitution?

truthCoder:
Pray thee explain this scenario in light of this, then.

Okay let me help you understand. If you go to a bank or a POS merchant, are you going there to exchange your Naira (pre naira swapping period) or going to seek the use of a service. Services in the case of a POS merchant could be helping you to send funds to your account or that of another person or withdrawing funds from your account. In the case of banks, well you can imagine that yourself. If collects charges for using their services it doesn't equate to trading same currency.

Pls, we all need to be educated and embrace what is called "cultural relativisms". Muslims should respect the religion of others, and others should respect Islam as well.

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As I was reading your post, I almost clicked your link to read further. Nonsense

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