Yes. But it is easier to go with your signed and stamped statement of result from the school.

This one you are asking in Nairaland, hope you are not owing the school or were you among the stubborn students?

mryoungdon:
Source

Source: go to EFCC or meet Abia Indebted Pensioners and Civil Servants.

Fabrolistic:
Op. If na joke stop am.

It is not a joke oh. It is real. The EFCC Official was sounding like someone whose relation was sacked during Abia State Non-indigenes saga.

bewla:
How come b4 this story no salt no record only mouth talk pls get us prove ok

Prove that Abia Governor and the son are saints or prove by providing you with the picture of my source that we met few minutes in a public bus?

Just go to Abia and get prove yourself.

After Ohakim, Lamido, EFCC Moves To Arrest Ex- Abia Gov. T. Orji

There are strong indications that the Economic and Finacial crimes Commision(EFCC) has moved to invite the Former Governor of Abia State and Senator representing Abia Central Senatorial District in the National Assembly Chief Theodore Orji over embezzlement of public funds meant for the development in the State.

A close source within the Headquaters of the Anti-graft body told PUO REPORTS that the commision had received not fewer than 12 Petitions against the former governor,praying it to investiagte how Sen.T A Orji managed the affairs of Abia State from MAY 29 2007 till MAY 29th 2015 when he piloted the affairs of the state.

Another issue raised by the petitioners included how the Son of the former Governor,who is now a member Representing Umuahai Central in the State Assembly Hon.Chinedum Eyninnaya Orji managed the sum of 67 Billion Naira,which he was alleged to have collected via frivolous contracts,he was reported to have awarded to himself during the reign of his father as Abia State Governor.

Recalled that there had been several allegation of finacial misappropriation and Embezzlement levelled against the former Governor during his days as Abia State Governor,but efforts to get him proved abortive due the immunity he constitutionally enjoyed as a governor.

It will be recalled that Chief Theodore Orji won the Abia Central Senatorial seat in a controversial circumstances,which his close rival Barr. Ahamdi Nweke is challenging at the Tribunal,because the former Governor, now Senator lost at his own Polling unit during the March 28th Presidential and National Assembly elections,but was declared winner in a shocking manner.

PUO REPORTS was unable to verify the particular date the EFCC will extend its letter of invitation,which has being already compiled.

President Mohammadu Buhari had during his inaugural speech maintained that no corrupt politician will go unpunished under his watch as President of Nigeria.

Source: http://www.igberetvnews.com/?p=236

I was lucky to meet an official of EFCC in a public bus here in Abuja yesterday and he told me that EFCC have some petitions filed against Ex-Abia Governor T.A.Orji and his Son Chinedu Orji.

He further stated that nothing will stop them from probing them only that they have too many cases in law court now.

He advised that people should file more petitions through EFCC office nearest to them to increase their count charges against them.

I am not Abian but I know much about their sufferings.

Bollove:
You have certificates you don't know their meaning and implications . This is embarrassing.

This is like a carpenter fighting a mechanic .... both of you no dey trained on the same thing na.

MBA is a professional course (You will be equipped with pragmatics issues in the business world) not an academic course .... so there is nothing like university MBA as you stated above because there is no Polytechnic MBA in the first place.

Master Business Administration (MBA) is even different from M.sc Business Administration ......

We just have to understand our certificates ... don't just go to school and take them because of money you will collect as a result of possessing one ...... kindly try to ascertain what you are trained for.

To measure people like you is very easy. One can easy note that you are arrogant and pompous.

We Nigerias fail because once we think we are at a better position or office, we forget about others.

Note: I am only agitating for a change not that I have not been placed fine. That Christ died for you and I does not mean that he was a sinner.

histemple:
Op, please respect the intelligence of your fellow polytechnic graduates by correcting this DANGERIOUS to DANGEROUS. Please also note that your indirect insistence as regards the correctness of the spelling could be justifying the discrimination.
Also note that nairaland has subscribers all over the world.

A community is said to be incomplete without a mad man/woman, maybe you came to complete this Nairaland Community.

When true B.Sc/HND graduates are serious talking constructively fools like you are busy checking the "I" and the "t". I blaim Nigeria that is based on paper qualifications.

redcliff:


Lmao.. i said this the other time when this topic came on fp and everybody wanted to kill me that day. I still maintain my stand that poly students are not well refined graduates of higher institutions of learning.

B.Sc fools are the ones taking Nigeria backwards through looting and projecting issues like this other than bringing idea that could make youths have hope like leaders of tomorrow.
I have both Polytechnic (HND) and University (MBA) Certificates, which is expensive, what about those that can not afford it.
That is why you and I should join hands in ending this madness by publishing/broadcasting it and if possible relating it with our friends and relations in NASS because of its looming danger i

swimcash:
@op, y shld dey b equal? since wen A n B na same? comparin both is an insult 2 all proffessors n Bsc holders. if e no b panadol, e no fit b panadol...period

The professors are the ones taking Nigeria backwards through looting and projecting issues like this other than idea that could make us have hope like leaders of tomorrow.
I have both Polytechnic (HND) and University (MBA) Certificates, which is expensive, what about those that can not afford it.
That is why you and I should join hands in ending this madness by publishing/broadcasting it and if possible relating it with our friends and relations in NASS because of its looming danger in Nigeria.

GODAKPAN:
ADMITTION REQUIREMENTS: BSC=5 CREDIT PLUS 4 JAMB SUBJECTS AND HND=4 CREDIT PLUS 3 JAMB SUBJECTS, WHY THE NOISE? I HAVE BOTH AND I KNOW WHAT AM SAYING. I EVEN HAVE CITY ANG GUILDS LEVEL 4 WHICH IS EQUIVALENT TO HND. GUY GO TO SCHOOL AND STOP SCREAMING. LAW AND MEDICAL GRADUATE STARTS AT LEVEL 10 WHILE OTHERS START AT LEVEL 8. WHY ARE WE NOT KILLING OURSELVES. ENUFF OF DIS CERTIFICATE COMPARISM AS THEY DIDNT START TODAY, THEY WERE THERE BEFORE YOU STARTED SCHOOL.
EACH TIME YOU COME UP WITH ISSUES LIKE THIS, YOU END UP RIDDICULING THE HND GRADUATES. WE KNEW OUR FAITH BEFORE AND DURING SCHOOL. THEY WERE NEVER EQUALS THATS WHY YOU NEED HND TO DO A YEAR 3 DIRECT ENTRY PROGRAMME IN A UNIVERSITY PLUS YOUR MANDATORY BASIC O'LEVEL

I have both Polytechnic and University Certificates too, which is expensive, what about those that can not afford it. That is why you and I should join hands in ending this madness by publishing/broadcasting it and if possible relating it with our friends and relations in NASS because of its looming danger in Nigeria.

MsTIQ:
I don't think there is anything that can be done constitutionally as regards this! For better chances and to avoid discrimination, You should strive to achieve a University education even after the Diploma, atleast to be on safer side

I have both Polytechnic and University Certificates, which is expensive, what about those that can not afford it. That is why you and I should join hands in ending this madness by publishing/broadcasting it and if possible relating it with our friends and relations in NASS because of its looming danger in Nigeria.

Imokay:


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The truth of the matter is that such discrimination should not be witnessed by such paramilitary organisations that bear live firearms, it is not helping issues in Nigeria.

Does that mean that Ministry of Interior is more experienced than Nigerian Military, SSS, Police? Because this organisations do not discriminate between thir HND & B.Sc holders.

funnyme:
Op e dey pain yu? Then go university na,to go polytechnic no be by force o.

Funnyme, I know that Nigeria will be incomplete without mad people like you.
For your information I have gotten my MBA from FUTO.
What I am talking is for reasonable people to contribute to the betterment of this Nation due to the dangers associated with it.
Note: this topic is not for dafts like you. Please don't see it as an insult but as an advice

Imokay:
Is the entry requirement the same for Universities and Polytechnics? Is the course content the same?
So why expect them to handle the same job descriptions.

In Engineering the hierarchy is Engineers--Technologist--Technicians--Craftsmen--Artisans

The qualification for each is clear and the roles they play are quite different and one cannot be substituted for the other.There may be overlaps in reality, but Imagine Technicians insisting to also carry the title Engr.
HND/Technologist need not have inferiority complex, there is dignity in labour.

Imokay, you spoke fine and I must commend you for a constructive point. My question is, where in Nigerian law or constitution is it written that you pay HND lower than B.Sc or that Nigerians should discriminate among the two certificate holders. The same group of B.Sc holder that brought about this discrimination for their selfish interest, are the same people that projects corruption in Nigeria.
Nigeria should do away with this selfish interest and look for intellectuals & ideas that could save Nigeria from its state.

tonytony208:
Your spelling of "dangerous" is enough to show you off as a poly student. Many of them cant speak or write simple and correct English; just like you have displayed here. Now, which polytechnic did you graduate from? Your school's standard must have been very poor! "Dangerious"? Queen Elizabeth must hear this!

Tonytony208 you might be an educated illiterate or enlightened coward. You are a big disappointment to B.Sc Holders. Consult your dictionary before calling champion "shampion". I don't mean inault but advice.

Damfostopper:
Polytechnic and university aint d same...so dnt expect Bsc n Hnd to be d same.....if u no like am...go open university of polytechnic na

Learn to read well before contributing. Which constitution stated that they should be discriminated in Labour Market more expecially in a place where people bear live arms. I pray that you or your family becomes a direct victim or fall casualty to this unconstitutional and irrelevant discrimination.
Say Amen to my prayers above if you are still sure that B.Sc is constitutionally above HND.

Federal Government should please end this certificate discrimination between HND & B.Sc. holders in Federal Ministry of Interior (Prisons, Immigration, Civil Defence) and others in order to increase their productivity.

This discrimination is irrelevant, dangerious, unethical and unconstitutional.

There is a looming bloody clash between these two cadres at fields of operation due to live arms/ammunition they bear and that is why every well meaning Nigerian should help towards scrapping out this because you/ your family will become victim directly/indirectly & never ask God why because you caused it by not publishing or broadcasting this message.

Few of the discriminations witnessed in Min. of Interior are;
? HND (Inspectorate Cadre), while B.Sc. (Superintendent Cadre).
? Entry Level for HND is G/L 7, while a fellow Graduate with B.Sc. is G/L 8.
? HND G/L 7 earns (#70,000 pm), while B.Sc. G/L 8 earns (#120,000 pm).
? Terminal Point for HND is G/L 13, while B.Sc. is to the highest G/L.
? HND/ inspectorate cadre ranks are confusing, while superintendent
ranks are normal ranks/recognized ranks in military/paramilitary
agencies.
? B.Sc Holder hardly pay complement to his superior officer with HND certificate.
? HND graduates are denied one Grade Level during rank conversation.
? Above all, HND holder in this Ministry of Interior are regarded and treated as artisans with WASC or Trade Test qualifications.

It is shameful that staff of Ministry of Interior and others as affected no longer concentrate on their duties or bring ideas that could help the job, rather they focuse on getting more certificates by hook or by crook in order to be converted to superintendent cadre.

It is obvious that other well recognised security agencies like; Nigeria Military, DSS, Nigerian Police, etc do not discriminate
in ranking between HND & B.Sc. Holders.

Federal Government should merge Ministry of Interior with Police to stop this nonsense if they persists in this evil act called discrimination.

" ... The Abia State number one citizen stressed that he has the backing of the military high command for the restoration of military checkpoints across the state...."

So Abia Governor wey em case still dey for court no dey fear Buhari order. which military high command pass Buhari.

Let him start by paying up all Abia Workers and Pensioners their debts owed by his predisasor Senator T.A.Orji (formal Abia Governor).

Military road blocks will return to Abia – Ikpeazu
By Seun Opejobi on July 2, 2015

dailypost.ng/2015/07/02/military-road-blocks-will-return-to-abia-ikpeazu/

Despite the directive by President Mohammadu Buhari that all military checkpoints across the country be removed, Governor Okezie Ikpeazu of Abia State on Thursday announced the restoration of military checkpoints in the state.

The Abia State number one citizen stressed that he has the backing of the military high command for the restoration of military checkpoints across the state.

This information was contained in a press statement signed by the governor’s Chief Press Secretary, Mr. Godwin Adindu, in Umuahia. The statement quoted the governor as saying that the return of the roadblocks in the State was a proactive measure in tackling the rising cases of kidnapping activities in the state and other criminal activities.

Abia was, for the better parts of 2009 and 2011, besieged by kidnappers until they were flushed out by soldiers.

According to the statement, the State governor consulted with President Muhammadu Buhari, and the General Officer Commanding the 82 Division of the Nigerian Army Enugu before taking the decision.
The statement noted that the military roadblocks would be restored at designated points across the State.

Ikpeazu, who expressed sadness at the cases of insecurity witnessed over the last couple of weeks, promised to stamp out insecurity in the State.
The governor warned criminals to stay away from the State or be ready to face the long arms of the law.

A social critic has called on President
Muhammadu Buhari to help stop alleged discrimination between Higher National; Diploma (HND) and Bachelor’s Degree holders in Nigeria's paramilitary formations.

In an essay published by PM News » , Buhari was urged to take quick action in order to stop the 'dangerous discrimination.'

"President Muhammadu Buhari should please urgently end this certificate discrimination between HND and BSc. holders in Federal Ministry of Interior (Prisons, Immigration, Civil Defence) and others in order to increase productivity in fight against insecurity and insurgents," the report stated.
"This discrimination is dangerous, unethical, and unconstitutional."

The unnamed critic warned that the discrimination could lead to armed conflict is nothing is done urgently.

"There is a looming bloody clash between these two cadres at fields of operation due to live arms/ammunition they bear and that is why every well-meaning Nigerian should help towards scrapping out this discrimination because you or your family could be victim directly or indirectly."

Some of the alleged discrimination included:
HND (Inspectorate Cadre), while B.Sc. (Superintendent Cadre).
Entry Level for HND is G/L 7, while a fellow Graduate with B.Sc. is G/L 8.
Terminal Point for HND is G/L 13, while B.Sc. is to the highest G/L.
HND or inspectorate cadre ranks are confusing, while superintendent ranks are normal ranks/recognized ranks in military/paramilitary agencies.
B.Sc Holder do not pay complement to his superior officer with HND certificate.
HND graduates are denied one Grade Level during conversation.
Above all, HND holder in this Ministry of Interior are regarded and treated as artisans with WASC or Trade Test qualifications.

The writer noted also that personnel of paramilitary formations leave their duties and focus on "getting more certificates by hook or crook in order to be converted to the superintendent cadre."

He also noted that the "other well recognised security agencies like; Nigeria Military, DSS, Nigerian Police, etc do not discriminate in ranking between HND and BSc. holders."

The HND/BSc debate has been on on for a long time, signalling a battle of supremacy between polytechnic and university certificate holders.

In an interview with an Abuja based newspaper » , Dr. Kabiru Matazu, Rector of Hussaini Adamu Federal Polytechnic Kazaure, called for the removal of the dichotomy. »

Also, the National President of National Association of Polytechnic Students (NAPS) Com. Ogbonnaya Sunday, the problems of polytechnic students and graduate can be traced to the dichotomy. »

Even more recently, Professor Femi Mimiko, Vice Chancellor of Adekunle Ajasin University, Akungba-Akoko, Ondo State, described the dichotomy as unnecessary. »

pulse.ng/student/hnd-b-sc-dichotomy-hnd-b-sc-dichotomybuhari-urged-to-address-dangerous-certificate-discrimination-id3867476.html

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Yaradua once tried to abrogate the HND/BSc dichotomy before he died. Jonathan did nothing about it. It's just so unfortunate............


But wait o OP, the kind of graduates some of these polytechnics produce is heart-breaking. If some of them speak English to you, na die. I remember Tawa from Iree Poly, Kemi from Ibadan Poly and Chioma from Oko Poly, if those babes speak English, na to run hold something because ground dey always vibrate.

Na joke ooooo

To some people like you, this issue of HND/B.Sc dichotomy is irrelevant.

I know that this issue will be addressed by this present administration, but before that time, God will be punishing all the supporters of this dichotomy one by one in Jesus name. Amen.

President Muhammadu Buhari (GCFR) should please urgently end this certificate discrimination between HND & B.Sc. holders in Federal Ministry of Interior (Prisons, Immigration, Civil Defence) and others in order to increase productivity in fight against insecurity and insurgents .

This discrimination is dangerious, unethical and unconstitutional.

There is a looming bloody clash between these two cadres at fields of operation due to live arms/ammunition they bear and that is why every well meaning Nigerian should help towards scrapping out this discrimination because you or your family could be victim directly or indirectly.

Few of the discriminations are;

• HND (Inspectorate Cadre), while B.Sc. (Superintendent Cadre).

• Entry Level for HND is G/L 7, while a fellow Graduate with B.Sc. is G/L 8.

• Terminal Point for HND is G/L 13, while B.Sc. is to the highest G/L.

• HND or inspectorate cadre ranks are confusing, while superintendent ranks are normal ranks/recognized ranks in military/paramilitary agencies.

• B.Sc Holder do not pay complement to his superior officer with HND certificate.

• HND graduates are denied one Grade Level during conversation.

• Above all, HND holder in this Ministry of Interior are regarded and treated as artisans with WASC or Trade Test qualifications.

It is shameful that staff of Ministry of Interior and others as affected no longer concentrate on their duties or bring ideas that could help the job, rather they focuse on getting more certificates by hook or by crook in order to be converted to superintendent cadre.

It is obvious to state that other well recognised security agencies like; Nigeria Military, DSS, Nigerian Police, etc do not discriminate in ranking between HND & B.Sc. Holders.
Merge Ministry of Interior with Police to stop this nonsense if they persists in the discrimination.

Yes, if you are seduced or cheated on your trusted partner (if your conscience is not dead).

It is true that Nigeria needs total change which will definitely affect many political criminals, but Osibanjo should be carried along "were necessary" to avoid disunity & misunderstanding.
Osibanjo might not be bothered, but his Godfathers are seriously scouting for information to know when to run out of the country over their atrocities.

FG ABOLISH HND/B.SC DISCRIMINATION IN FEDERAL MINISTRY OF INTERIOR; IT IS DANGEROUS, UNETHICAL AND UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

Federal Government should end the discrimination witnessed between HND & B.Sc. holders in federal ministry of interior (Prisons, Immigration, Civil Defence) in order to increase productivity and discourage unforeseen dangers among these two graduates.

• HND (Inspectorate Cadre), while B.Sc. (Superintendent Cadre).
• Entry Level for HND is G/L 7, while a fellow Graduate with B.Sc. is G/L 8.
• Terminal Point for HND is G/L 13 while B.Sc. is to the highest G/L.
• HND or inspectorate cadre ranks are confusing, while superintendent ranks are normal ranks/recognized ranks in military/paramilitary agencies.
• Above all, HND holder in this Ministry of Interior are regarded as artisans with WASC or Trade Test.

It is shameful that staff of Ministry of Interior no longer concentrate on their duties, rather focuses on getting more certificates by hook or by crook in order to get more ranks or to be in superintendent cadre.

It is obvious to state that other security agencies like; Nigeria Military, DSS, Nigerian Police, etc do not discriminate in ranking between HND & B.Sc. Holders.

There might be a bloody clash one day between these two cadres if federal government fails to urgently address this discrimination.

FG ABOLISH HND/B.SC DISCRIMINATION IN FEDERAL MINISTRY OF INTERIOR; IT IS DANGEROUS, UNETHICAL AND UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

Federal Government should end the discrimination witnessed between HND & B.Sc. holders in federal ministry of interior (Prisons, Immigration, Civil Defence) in order to increase productivity and discourage unforeseen dangers among these two graduates.

• HND (Inspectorate Cadre), while B.Sc. (Superintendent Cadre).
• Entry Level for HND is G/L 7, while a fellow Graduate with B.Sc. is G/L 8.
• Terminal Point for HND is G/L 13 while B.Sc. is to the highest G/L.
• HND or inspectorate cadre ranks are confusing, while superintendent ranks are normal ranks/recognized ranks in military/paramilitary agencies.
• Above all, HND holder in this Ministry of Interior are regarded as artisans with WASC or Trade Test.

It is shameful that staff of Ministry of Interior no longer concentrate on their duties, rather focuses on getting more certificates by hook or by crook in order to get more ranks or to be in superintendent cadre.

It is obvious to state that other security agencies like; Nigeria Military, DSS, Nigerian Police, etc do not discriminate in ranking between HND & B.Sc. Holders.

There might be a bloody clash one day between these two cadres if federal government fails to urgently address this discrimination.