₦airaland Forum

richiemcgold:
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Buhari borrowed and we condemned him for that.

Tinubu is currently borrowing and we're also condemning him for it.

.. now Obi says he too would've borrowed.

This simply means that Nigeria is a VERY POOR COUNTRY.

There is no way u will take borrowing out of running our economy, we are already in debt as a nation. Even without defending the naira, govt is still borrowing. How the borrowed funds is being utilized is what matters here & that depend on the person at the helm of affairs.

twosquare:
Transport, fuel, food, and electricity, have some connections. If there is good transport system to convey agro produce, electricity (people spend fuel on what they shouldn't to run business), it will reduce cost. PMS is a strong strand in our economy that if you pull it, it affects most things...

You are just disturbing my mentions, what kind of person are u?? Previous govt when civil servants were able to afford cements & build houses, was the transport system & megawatts different from what we have now?? Who is talking about about development, take Nigeria back to pre May 2023, so people can afford basic things. 2023 allawee was 33k, fuel was 198, rice 30k & all other goods, now fuel is 1200, rice is 107k, corpers are still earning 33k? Do u think that is fair?? Even the so called 70k minimum wage, they refused to pay. This is not about the system, it is about compassion & the mind of the person at the helm of affairs. Stop using the system as smokescreen to defend incompetence. You are making it seem like Nigerians want something extra ordinary from this govt. Pls don't mention me again if u don't want to be reasonable!

twosquare:
If you like, bring Osinbajo there with all the prof, Nigeria will still continue in its trajectory. Pikin wey no read wan pass exam. While Dubai, Saudi, and Singapore were going to tutorials and studying overnight, Nigeria dey go nightclub spend on olosho, eat peppered snail and big odeku....come talk say lecturer wicked.

I don't like talking about politics because people use emotions instead of facing reality. If the 60s structure were intact and improved, we wouldn't even discuss some things.

How many megawatts of electricity will 250 billion dollars produce? How many sound public transport systems could be produced by that amount? Rail?Just those 2/3 things.

Check the screenshot above.

If u think electing an intelligent man into office will not bring relief & succour to the average Nigerian, it means u are not being sincere. Who is talking about megawatts & transport system?? We are talking about food & price of basic commodities! I don't want to continue engaging u guys because i can see some of u are just talking on the basis of cryppto earnings because dollar is high, u have no idea what people are really going through under this govt. Things are out of reach for the common man out there!! People can no longer afford basic food stuffs & drugs!

twosquare:
Nigeria's time bomb they have been shouting all these days has already exploded; now we are seeing the aftereffects. If you like put Obi there, Atiku o, another one wey better, nothing will work because the devils that are feeding from the dysfunctioned system are gatekeepers and they can fight to the death to keep it that way. They are principalities of another order who are men. See how ordinary fuel turn to soap opera.

Nobody is saying Nigeria will automatically become an Eldorado if we overlook tribalism & put competent people in office, but it will be far better than this. Are u saying if someone like Osinbanjo was in power, the country will be in such a mess & confused state?? Be honest with yourself. The kind of tribalism we practice in this country is different from what obtains in other part of the world. Not until we put Nigeria as a nation first above tribe, we can never make progress. Tribalism is the root cause, because voting is the selection process. Whatever u select as a citizen during voting will determine the direction the nation will go. Some persons are corrupt, but others are extremely corrupt. The binance guy is still locked up till this moment, while naira is still dwindling, how is that a fair approach to resolving issue? Put an intelligent man there & see how all these things get resolved.

Tflex01:
Anytime we try to talk about tribalism in Nigeria and we decided to directly or indirectly look in a particular direction, or try to blame a particular group or tribe , I always see the conversation as a waste of time.

ALL Nigerian politicians use religion and ethnicism/tribalism as tools when it favours them and most core followers are usually motivated by either or both.

Until we understand that it's a general problem and take meaningful step to address it, we will never get anything out of the numerous complaints. That is why superpack comment make more sense to me.

See what u are saying??
Are u not part of this problem??
Haven't u be supporting this govt right from day one even with their anti people policies?? Those of u coming here to say tribalism isn't the problem are saying so because u are part of those that plunge this nation into this mess because of Tribalism. Mind u Politicians don't use tribalism, u people allowed yourselves to be used. You can't make a wrong decision by voting an incompetent candidate because he comes from your tribe or political party & expect me to start addressing issues with u when reality hits!

crazymommy:
Many Nigerians first of all look at tribalism first before now bringing in religion...scale of preference!!tribalism remains number one..the major problem

God bless u, u have said it all.
The problem with Nigerians is that we are not even sincere with ourselves! Imagine someone still trying to downplay tribalism, when what we are suffering today is directly as a result of tribalism. Mentioning greedy leaders, who put the greedy leaders there? Is it not the people? Let 2027 come, they will still come out to vote him saying he is their son. We are not serious in this country.

Superpack589:
Whenever we talk about the situation of Nigeria, some people just bring up the word "japa" as if it is some kind of antidote to solve the problem. Yeah, we should all just run away to greenery pastures and leave our ancestral lands just because we want to live good lives.

I quoted u earlier & stated tribalism was the bane of this nation, u quoted me with greedy leader being the cause, I just didn't want to respond so as not to derail the thread until I saw this. If u read what the crazymommy lady posted u will notice a very salient point where she stated the tribalism she experienced in Nigeria is worst than the racism in UK. Go read her post again. Many of u trivialize the negative consequences of tribalism, forgetting no nation can experience progress with it. The negative effects of tribalism is bigger than corruption, becos it makes people to put square pegs in round holes & makes them protect their own, even when sth is wrong.

A country where people will always vote for their own, even when it is glaring such a person is incapable to rule, so long he comes from their region or village, they decide to vote for him, how do u want such a nation to make progress?? People don't vote the best hands, they vote their own, no matter how bad the person is, so long he is from their region, they will vote him. So what do u want the average Nigerian who has an opportunity to Japa to do in such case? To stay back & start suffering for the wrong decisions made by others on the basis of tribalism??

Superpack589:
Bro, what do we do with the deteriorating situation of things in this country? Naira is on its way to being worthless and it's happening so fast. Why now wey pesin wan start life? Why must it be my own generation?

This is a huge mess we need to start talking about. Why are we all quiet about this?

It is a huge mess, but no one is talking about it because there is never going to be a solution to it, so long as tribalism exist. Tribalism is the bane of this nation, nothing is ever going to work because of it.

seanwilliam:
abi nah, since I don stop DCA-ing I no too dey reason the market again and I’m willing to hodl.
Somehow somehow I feel they are trying to shake people off ni, cos how do you explain a coin that moved from 1800$ to 3900$ earlier this year now finding it hard to break 3k for months now. Until I make considerable gains , I ain’t selling shït.

Eth is like that @bold, it doesn't move with the crowd, it moves on its own & when it does, it can do crazzy numbers. 2020 my brother told me to buy eth, I was reluctant because btcee was gradually moving, but eth was slow, he insisted & told me that will be the last time I will see eth below $500, so I entered eth at 300$, from 2020, eth rose from 300 to around $4.3k in 2021, so u can imagine how many X it did. This may likely be the last time we'll see eth at this price too.

Mindlog:
Gowon created the 12 states out of the regions, ending regionalism but dem hang for Ironsi head.

Forget about 12 States, this man is just speaking English. Ironsi take over as military head of State after foiling the coup automatically ended the regional system of govt. Military don't share power!

JASONjnr:
Burna boy should stop intimidating people.....


We all heard P.diddy said he was ungrateful for not giving him the accolades he deserve after making Burna boy a winner of Grammys...

We don't know exactly what transpired between them.

But as the story is unveiling, it's a common believe that everyone that Diddy helped actually climbed his bed...

Burna boy getting angry is childish. It shows that the story is true after all....

If what burna boy did is childish, what about speed Darlington attitude?? Stop looking at this from one perspective, except u hate burna boy. If burna boy was your blood brother u won't be talking like this. I don't see what burna boy has done that warrant speed Darlington going about all over the internet defaming his name, it doesn't make sense.

Sonfethopia:
Which one is throw back and which one is throw front. This is the reality of Nigeria, not just ibadan.

Exactly!
In short it is the reality of West Africa.

Na wa o
No form of development at all...
What is really wrong with the black man??
If it were to be a white man land, u will see contrast in comparison.

Hotspurs:
rather the whutes are the one causing confussions,African lived a communal life with kings as head,they white came and brought parliament and democracy...do you know haita people are there as a result of slave that were been trasported,they revolted on the ship and killed the slave masters on the ship and landed in an island known às haiti today

We are still saying the samething
White are causing confusion among us because they are of higher reasoning & mental capacity. Can a black man go to a white man's land & convince him to sell his brother as slave? Do u ever think the white man will agree to such? Think! You can argue all u want, but the Blackman do not have same mental capacity with the white. From technology, education to medicine, anything u can think of at all, the Blackman is always behind & needs the supervision of a white man to do anything right. Our major roads & bridge construction will collapse without the supervision of the whites.

Winnin009:
bro, don't be dumb... it says worldly passions not possessions... it encompasses alot of things... Don't bother, you have no idea what you're talking about.. It will be one failed attempt after another.

Worldly passions doesn't include worldly possessions?? You are very f00lish & I honestly regret wasting my time on a dunce like u. Below is the definition of worldly passion. I didn't bother to read the rest of the nonsense u wrote.

"They are things like prominent and preeminent desires to be rich, foolish and harmful desires, taking advantage of weaker people, impulsivity, various lusts, malice, envy, hate, the lust of the flesh and the lust of the eyes and the boastful pride of life."

Wizardslayer:
Haiti is another example why black people always trying to rule over themselves always amount to disaster.

Black people are actually mentally sub human.

God bless u bro
I have always opined that the black man & white man don't have same mental & reasoning capacity. There is something fundamentally wrong with the black man. Without the supervision of the whites, blacks hardly ever do anything right.

Winnin009:
Lol... You're quoting one verse like that's all you can say while I've given you plenty other references when God is clearly not against having wealth... Bro, people still say Solomon is one of the wealthiest people to have ever lived... was he serving satan when he was bestowed with enormous wealth?

You're just a clown that needs justification to hate on wealth in the house of the Lord. Na still people like you go say where their God if christians are living in penury.

Titus 2:12
It teaches us to say “No” to ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright and godly lives in this present age.

I can produce more than 10 verses on the Bible stands on wealth, which is very simple & clear! Say no to worldly lust, i don't understand how a Christian will be accumulating worldly possessions & yet talking about heaven? How deceitful does that sound?? What wealth did Christ accumulate while on earth?? Even when Satan offered to give him the whole world, he refused, but your pastors are striving to get the whole world? Buying private jets that end up covered in dusts? Yet they have poor members in their churches struggling to feed? Like I said, u can only deceive yourself.

Winnin009:
Well, take it or leave it.. People do go to churches and have their lives turned around. If yours hasn't ask yourself why. I can tell you for free tho; it's cause you possess the mindset of the majority. Hence why you're in the 85% that see no breakthrough.

Just humor me and indeed go to church to seek the face of the lord and fellowship with the brethren.

Stop being delusional pls & think like a reasonable human for once! Even with the number of churches all over the country, our nation is one of the most corrupt all over the world??

Winnin009:
Clown! The streets of heaven are made of gold. Don't be silly. Lol.

He said you shouldn't accumulate or hoard it... same way He said you shouldn't decorate yourself with jewelries... he never said you shouldn't aspire for wealth; seek and ye shall find He said. Lol... Same God that says he will bless you with the good of the land? What is the good of the land? Or is it I will make open to you the wealth in high places...

Bro, you no get talk.

Read what u wrote & compare with the bold to see u are the bigger clown??
Mark 10:21
"Jesus looked at him and loved him. “One thing you lack,” he said. “Go, sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”

Why would Jesus tell the man to sell everything he has & give it to the poor if it is was about accumulating wealth?? If the goal is heaven, why are u bothered about accumulating worldly treasures on earth? Quote me when u are ready to face the truth, u people hate the truth, yet parade yourselves as Christ like?? You can only deceive yourself!

Salt06:
My brother read verse 30 of Mark 10 u quoted

You don't even know what that verse means, It doesn't mean Christians will be rich! The verse summarizes all he has been saying, he is talking about community of the Church which is designed to share & show love(Acts 2:45) & again reemphasizing those who are willing to sacrifice their earthly comforts and their lives for Jesus, the rewards of eternal life are more than we could imagine (1 Corinthians 2:9).

That verse 30 summarized the bold part of 21
"Jesus looked at him and loved him. “One thing you lack,” he said. “Go, sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”

You people just read the Bible to suit your selfish interests, no wonder one of them went as far as saying if one doesn't pay tithe, such a person won't make heaven?? What makes u people different from politicians?? Smh

Gerrylyndon:
Someone gave a gift to Bishop, with his own money, and some people are angry, spewing trash.

Vent that frustration on the government you voted for and leave Bishop and his church pls.

So a pastor should not have anything good because he is a pastor abi.

Hypocrites.

Many of u don't know the meaning of worldly passions! Your bishop already have many of those gifts, he should sell this & use it to feed the poor! That's what the Bible teaches! Because he is promoting God's kingdom & such things contradicts what he stands for. Nobody will be talking if your bishop was a politician, but since he is a man representing God's kingdom, he ought to do with Jesus would do, sell it to feed the poor! You Christians have no idea of what it is to be Christ like.

CodeTemplarr:
I hope you reject earthly chairs, hall and sound system while insisting any church you find yourself provides the heavenly version of those? Clown.

You are the clown here if you don't know the meaning of worldly lust!

Winnin009:
The bible teaches us to deny worldly possesions but said He will position you before kings and not mean men.. or was it the part about seeking and you shall find? Even the bible further says seek ye first the kingdom and everyother will I add on to you... what do you think is the every other... The gold and silver that God put on earth was for what?

Una no go understand something but na una go first judge.

See the nonsense u just wrote??
You don't need to even be a Christian to know riches & pursuit of God's kingdom don't mix! But because u people are weak, u will always find a way to justify your worldly lust! What did Jesus tell the man that approached him in the region of Judea?? Why did Jesus asked the man to sell all his properties to the poor?? Why can't your bishop sell his rolls Royce to feed the poor??

Mark 10:21
"Jesus looked at him and loved him. “One thing you lack,” he said. “Go, sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”

The same Jesus now said this; Mark 10:25
"It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.”

Here u are arguing about possessing worldly passions. You people are just pretenders, really don't know what it is to be Christ like!

CodeTemplarr:
Heavenly reward comes by using earthly riches to promote the heavenly.
Even Paul delayed his crossing over just to win more souls.

Oga stop twisting the Bible!
You don't need earthly riches to promote God's Kingdom. The Bible strictly teaches us to deny worldly passions, but u Christians are so after worldly passions & yet talk about heaven?

Mandate2023:
Mr falana anger should be channelled to bobrisky who made those statements in that recorded call.......
Two facts from VDM claim

1. Bobrisky called falz
2. Bobrisky made unauthorised calls from prison

Exactly!
With these two facts, they are had no case with vdm, but with Bob.

Kukutenla:
VDM is just a clueless clout chaser
He has now taken to dishing relationship advice after fumbling badly
He's lucky Falana is a lenient and restrained man
Imagine dragging a reputation that existed before you were born in the mud with some stupid unverified audio
Hogwash!!

Oga shut up pls!
Are u saying the voice audio was fake??
Falana just confirmed his son had a phone conversion with bobrisky, that was what vdm reacted to, so what are u saying?? You would have only be talking about defamation if there was no phone call between falz and Bob!

elitper:
To be frank, how can Bobrisky who needed a loan shimself even pay Falana? The story nor just join

You people still don't get it?
There is no way bobrisky would have met with someone like falana, Falz was the connector here. Falz brought his father name into this. If not for Falz, nothing concerns falana with someone like bobrisky. The man has also confirmed there was a call between falz & Bob!

chukwuibuipob:
The fame wey VDM dey hustling for,go land him I. kuje

Vdm is not the problem, the problem was Falz! He was the one that brought his father name into this, vdm only reacted to the voice audio. The question should be why would Falz be close to a questionable character like Bob to the extent of asking him for financial assistant?? The dad just confirmed they both had a conversation?

lexy2014:
that still leaves my questions unanswered. kindly answer as enumerated.

1. How will corruption be shorter for the people in 6years?
*corruption for 6 years is shorter than 8 years, because 6 years is shorter than 8.

2. After the shortened 6year suffering, will there be enjoyment thereafter?
*is there enjoyment after 8 years??

.3 How is it better for Nigerians to suffer even if it's for one year?
*Do Nigerians have a choice?
A nation where votes don't count, the citizens don't have a choice.

4. Should suffering be a part of the Nigerian experience?
*Are u asking me this??
Was i the one that rigged the last elections?
When people manipulate their way into office, u should know definitely the people will suffer. Because the leaders are going to recoup the money they spent on election rigging.

5. If you feel tenure of office reduces suffering, why don't you advocate for 1year tenure?
*There is no 1 year tenure for president any where, least is 4 years. If we can have a house that will approve a single term of 4 years, it will be the best news ever. Imagine if this govt was only to rule for 4 years? We would have just 2 years left, but now we are going to continue in this for next 6 years!

Ojiofor:
My own is that they should make the ruining of Nigeria rotational by the six geo political regions constitutional.
Yoruba and Fulani have had their turns in ruining this country they should allow other regions contribute in ruining Nigeria like they have done.

I agree with u
It should be rotational & short too!
Not only one region staying there for 8 years in the name of two tenure with woeful performance.

Ojiofor:
No Nigeria president can be like useless Buhari's 8 years in office and potential useless 4 to 8 years of Tinubu presidency.

Exactly this is my point!
Whether we like it or not, our two tenure of 4 years is almost same as single tenure of 8 years. How many governors or president rule for only 4 years as compared to those that rule 8 years. Seating president or governors always find a way to rig their way into office. Left for me a single 5 year term is better than this 8 years nonsense.