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traffwire:
True. But that doesn't mean they can't preach if that's what the spirit of God is demanding at the moment!

they can preach but running the church affair is another thing entirely, out of 100%family run by women 97% of them are failure and disastrous while few survived the same thing church.

traffwire:
Okay, I would agree. Now, we can better say when God calls a woman, she should also involve men as front supporters for the ministry.

yes! some wise women will employed a man as preacher.

traffwire:
Hmmm... I think you need to describe the ruling you mean. Meanwhile, I have a question. Do you consider someone who's being ruled by the spirit of God to be at the same time ruled by the spirit of man?

Really, I don't mean to overwrite submissiveness but as long as the spirit is in control of the called. If God never wants women in His kingdom, then He wouldn't call and give them authority.

Maybe I don't understand. Tell describe the ruling you meant

A woman should not allow to take charge of a church. ask yourself why Jesus Christ did not have female as a disciple !!! the way they handle things then you will understand what I mean.

ayenika1:
The jury was wise enough to send her back home which lots us don't know. The case happened in 2011 and this is 2019 which is 8yrs apart and if we get the months it really happened, it may be 7yrs and some months. Remember, all these while she has been in the prison because such case are not bailable. Now, she has been sentenced to 14years in prison and prison dates are not calculated as normal date. 1days make a 2days (morning and night) in prison, automatically, the 14years is just 7years and judgment like this usually commence when the case was brought before the court. Invariably, all the 7years she spent in prison was just the number of years the jury pronounced. She would be back home before you know.

God might have protected her for this 7years for things more worse than this. The bibble says, (forgotten the verse), you will face tribulations, and it will be what you would be able to handle. To us,it was wrong but to God, he knows better. Also,it may be because she's paying for sins of her father and grandfather as the bibble also states, I'd beckon the sins of 3 generations on everyone. (Not good in bibble,I guess you understand). Which sin(s) is she paying for, only God knows if at all she's paying for any.

Life...It is well.

God bless you for this explanation.

traffwire:
Exactly!

yes you are right Paul did not say woman can't be used by God but they should be submissive to the authority of the man in the church that's woman should be not allow to lead in the church. God see His church as a Kingdom and in the kingdom of God woman is not allowed to be a ruler . Now check the story of the Israelite since the day they became kingdom no woman has ever rule them till date so check it well.

HitSong:
Shut up your mouth!
Stop fooling yourselves
Christianity is not a religion? It's a movie then. Go school, u nor gree, PLEASE TELL US THE DEFINITION OF A RELIGION.

heyah don't be angry when gods of the land want to kill someone they will make him to run mad first before they strike him to death so bros you need deliverance from spirit of insanity.

NigeriaIsDoomed:
I dey laugh una wey dey call themselves christian but to abide by the word of christ na wahala.
Wetin dey hard here? Bible don talk am say make women dey keep quiet for church but una mumu and over sabi no gree una.
I swear na on 0.1% go enter that heaven and I no go dey surprise if muslim plenty for heaven pass the so called christians.

we have different heavens ! Allah have its own and Jesus have His own
Muslims will go to Allah's heaven where brothels are allowed to be filled with strippers

HitSong:


Confused people
Engage them in any argument and they will turn the whole thing around and they'll start digressing into something else.

How can people who claims to be "Chrislike" share so many differences and believes?

They can't even agree among themselves

They'll tell you that "the Bible says" as if the Bible is the only religious book in this world.
You can't make any sense using your Bible to prove a point to someone who doesn't believe in it.

you are not making sense sir! Christian is not religion where you have same way of practice but is a personal relationship between you and your creator. if Christianity is a religion we can easily judge ourselves but bible have given us a warning not to judge anyone except the God who you have the relationship with determine how you relate with Him.

elated177:
2 Peter 2:1-3 But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Master who bought them - bringing swift destruction on themselves. Many will follow their depraved conduct and will bring the way of truth to disrepute. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with the fabricated stories. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.

Jude 14-15 Enoch,the seventh from Adam, prophesied about them: 'See, YHVH is coming with thousands upon thousands of his holy ones to judge everyone, and to convict all of them of all the ungodly acts they have committed in their ungodliness, and of all the defiant words ungodly sinners have spoken against him.

Where did Peter and Jude denounce Enoch or the book of Enoch?

that's what I have been asking him but he refused to give me an answer . am still waiting .

MuttleyLaff:
You are behaving like a Bible illiterate, answer questions, you won't. I don't know what you are afraid of answering questions or what is scaring you.

Big heavyweight like you, rather prefers to be spoon-fed and for someone else do the heavy lifting for you. I am sorry, it doesn't work like that Mr Bigshot. I didn't learn that way.

Answer the questions as put to you and stop looking for fast track straight to the answer handed on a platter of gold information.

ahahahahahah ahahah am laughing in Swahili funny !!! you started this argument yourself asked you a question you did not answer me rather than asking me a question now I don't know the answer to your question okay tell me the answer to clear my doubt. any answer you give will effect on the book of Jude .

MuttleyLaff:
The guy hasn't answered a single question. He slides past questions without answering them, dodges and ignores every question asked him.

you have an understanding problem,is talking to you.

MuttleyLaff:
Can you see who really is being funny here?

Another the latest that you again have decided to ignore, is the, jcross19 please state here who the Bible said will judge and whom they will be judging, thanks?

At least, we now know, courtesy of OpenYourEyes1 what 1 Enoch 1:9 says, that Jude and Peter referenced from in their letters. If not for OpenYourEyes1 that came to the rescue, you aren't prepared to lift a finger, everything has to be done for your lazy bones self.

Try for size, answer my last question request now, if not you'll see whether or not this book written after over 4000 years of Enoch passing is a hoax or not

Do you remember me first telling you:
Please tell me, in your understanding, what is the purpose of that Jude letter, what is Jude's concern and bone of contention in it jcross19?

you claimed you know it then show it to me you refused . you keep on repeating the same thing. point the hoax out basic. my own issue is that why did Jude quote from the book of hoax is either something is wrong with the book of Jude and if not tell me what you see.

MuttleyLaff:
Maybe it's because you are behaving like a Bible illiterate and you are afraid of doing heavy lifting yourself

OK, let's do it this way.

jcross19 please state here who the Bible said will judge and whom they will be judging, thanks?

you are just funny!! Enoch is talking heresy why would Jude did the same that's my concern here so that I can be able to know the genuine of the source of Enoch.

MuttleyLaff:
Thank you for helping jcross19 out, lifting up 1 Enoch 1:9 that was too heavy for him to lift up here.

I know you have some interest in all this, as you wouldn't have assisted jcross19 if you hadn't, but what's your stance in the whole matter how OpenYourEyes1?

you have not made any valid point here. why did Jude refer him as a prophet at the same time as an historical Enoch that's my question if the book is not authentic.

OpenYourEyes1:
Jude 1:14-15 :
"And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these [men], saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him."


Compare this with Enoch 1:9,:

"And behold! He cometh with ten thousands of His holy ones To execute judgement upon all, And to destroy all the ungodly: And to convict all flesh Of all the works of their ungodliness which they have ungodly committed, And of all the hard things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him"

and please tell me what you see that I don't to clear my doubt.

MuttleyLaff:
You really need the chill pill jcross19.

How many times have you read the Book of Enoch and when was the last time you read it?

Now, please type in here, what 1 Enoch 1:9 says jcross19

I earlier told you, to please, tell me, in your understanding, what is the purpose of that Jude letter, what is Jude's concern and bone of contention in it jcross19? But you ignored it, only to then come to say "Jude don't need to quote such book before he can condemn the book" Then my question that you didn't answer, you coyly now slide it back at me.

Stop behaving like a Bible illiterate and going about this blindly please.

me I don't know, you tell me.

MuttleyLaff:
Until you calm down or go have a cold shoulder, the more you look, the less you'll see.

As I earlier said, don't you see the inconsistency in Jude 1:14-15 showing up in there, like a red throbbing sore thumb?

Please tell me, in your understanding, what is the purpose of that Jude letter, what is Jude's concern and bone of contention in it jcross19?

can you explain it to me let me see! Jude don't need to quote such book before he can condemn the book
if Jude referred to him as a prophet and 7th to Adam, we all know that first world was destroyed so how did this book survive ? that's should be the main concern why did Jude quoted from it.

bingbagbo:
Is the Book of Enoch really a lost book of the Bible? A born-again Christian who has been reading the Bible for several years only needs to read the "Book of Enoch" briefly to know that something is very wrong.

There are so many obvious flaws with this alleged missing book of God's Word. It is clear to me that someone copied from the Bible and wrote this garbage. The same type of mumbo-jumbo can be readily observed in the Qur'an. I do NOT believe that Enoch, who lived during the time period of Genesis, wrote this manuscript.

Evidently the King James translators didn't either, and for good reason. The Devil is working relentlessly to corrupt God's Word, as he has been doing since the Garden of Eden, when he caused Eve to doubt God's Word. Satan is so shrewd that he even tried to confuse our Lord by misinterpreting the Scriptures in Matthew 4:1-10. In these apostate times, the Word of God is under attack like never before. The reason why is simple... if Satan can pervert the Word of God into a lie, then he can control the masses!

⏺The Book of Enoch Teaches Heresy!

To the Biblically ignorant reader, the Book of Enoch might have an appeal; but to a believer grounded in the Scriptures, the Book of Enoch is packed full of heresy. For example:

We read in chapter 40 of the Book of Enoch.

(1) And after that I saw thousands of thousands and ten thousand times ten thousand, I saw a multitude (2) beyond number and reckoning, who stood before the Lord of Spirits. And on the four sides of the Lord of Spirits I saw four presences, different from those that sleep not, and I learnt their names: for the angel that went with me made known to me their names, and showed me all the hidden things. (3) And I heard the voices of those four presences as they uttered praises before the Lord of glory. (4) The first voice blesses the Lord of Spirits for ever and ever. (5) And the second voice I heard blessing (6) the Elect One and the elect ones who hang upon the Lord of Spirits. And the third voice I heard pray and intercede for those who dwell on the earth and supplicate in the name of the Lord of Spirits. (7) And I heard the fourth voice fending off the Satans and forbidding them to come before the Lord ( of Spirits to accuse them who dwell on the earth. After that I asked the angel of peace who went with me, who showed me everything that is hidden: ‘Who are these four presences which I have
(9) seen and whose words I have heard and written down?’ And he said to me: ‘This first is Michael, the merciful and long-suffering: and the second, who is set over all the diseases and all the wounds of the children of men, is Raphael: and the third, who is set over all the powers, is Gabriel: ▶and the fourth, who is set over the repentance unto hope of those who inherit eternal life, is named Phanuel.’◀(10) And these are the four angels of the Lord of Spirits and the four voices I heard in those days.

The Bible never mentions an angel named Phanuel, let alone an angel who is set over the repentance of those who inherit eternal life. What blasphemy! That statement in itself contradicts everything the Word of God teaches. We read in 1st Timothy 2:5 that Jesus Christ is the ONLY Mediator between God and men, not some angel named Phanuel... "For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus." Repentance is strictly between a man and Jesus Christ alone. Only Jesus died for our sins, and shed His blood to pay for them (1st Peter 1:18-19); therefore, we must be diligent to guard and defend against LIARS and imposters who would lead people to believe otherwise. 1st John 2:22 clearly indicts all Christ-deniers as LIARS, guilty before God.

Here's chapter 48:1-3.

(1) And in that place I saw the fountain of righteousness Which was inexhaustible: And around it were many fountains of wisdom: And all the thirsty drank of them, And were filled with wisdom, And their dwellings were with the righteous and holy and elect. (2) And at that hour that Son of Man was named In the presence of the Lord of Spirits, And his name before the Head of Days. (3) Yea, before the sun and the signs were created, Before the stars of the heaven were made, His name was named before the Lord of Spirits.

Was the Son of Man named? When was Jesus named in Heaven? This is an attack on the deity of Jesus. Jesus Himself claimed in Revelation 1:8, "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty." Jesus is Eternal, without beginning or end. Head of Days? Lord of Spirits? These terms are NOT found in the Bible. IF the Book of Enoch were valid, composing well over 100 chapters, there should be numerous New Testament references to it; but there aren't. Although some people claim that the Bible quotes the Book of Enoch over 100 times, this is simply not true. Just as the Qur'an, the Book of Enoch borrows from the Word of God. In sharp contrast to the Book of Enoch, the New Testament often quotes the Book of Genesis.

We read in the Book of Enoch, chapter 69:8-12.

( And the fourth was named Penemue: he taught the (9) children of men the bitter and the sweet, and he taught them all the secrets of their wisdom. And he instructed mankind in writing with ink and paper, and thereby many sinned from eternity to (10) eternity and until this day. For men were not created for such a purpose, to give confirmation (11) to their good faith with pen and ink. For men were created exactly like the angels, to the intent that they should continue pure and righteous, and death, which destroys everything, could not have taken hold of them, but through this their knowledge they are perishing, and through this power
(12) it is consuming me.

What. man's wisdom came from a demon named Penemue? That's crazy! Did ink and paper cause the fall of the human race? Whoa. I'd better through all my fine-point pens away immediately! It was Adam's sin that brought sin into the world (Romans 5:12); not evil literature. Mankind is inherently evil of himself, prone to the works of the flesh (Galatians 5:19-21). The Charismatics (Pentecostals) give far too much credit to demons for the sinful actions of men. They believe that every sin a person commits is evidence of demon-possession. That is absurd! Men and women sin because they are sinners! (Romans 3:10,23).

Although demons definitely influence mankind to do evil, the ultimate decision is OURS. The Devil cannot force anyone to sin. People need to stop blaming demons and the Devil for their sins, and start looking into the mirror. God has promised to help His children live right... "There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it" (1st Corinthians 10:13). No excuses!

⏺The Book of Enoch Speaks Mumbo-Jumbo

As you read the Book of Enoch, you will notice a big difference between it and the genuine Word of God. The Bible is readable, from cover to cover, it tells a story. In sharp contrast, the Book of Enoch appears to be mocking the Word of God, quoting phrases here-and-there from the Bible, without any meaningful logic or order. This, coupled with a bunch of added mumbo-jumbo, makes the Book of Enoch a ridiculous piece of literature to even consider inspired by God. As a person progresses deeper into the Book of Enoch, they will eventually find the Books of Adam and Eve fascinating as well, and then they will be into New Age occultism without even realizing it. Don't be fooled friend, the Book of Enoch is occult material that will lead you into the senseless mysticism of pagan religion. The fact that it's being paraded to the public nowadays on Walt Disney's History Station as a SHOCKING revelation, should be a clear warning sign where this is all headed. The credibility of the Word of God is under malicious attack.

The Book of Enoch uses unfamiliar terminology, referring to the "Lord of Spirits" and the "Head of Days." These terms are foreign to the Word of God. The messiah is NOT directly mentioned. The ambiguous mention of what may or may not be the Lord Jesus in the Book of Enoch, is eerily reminiscent of Freemasonry (who worship the "Great Architect" an undefined, ambiguous, universal god). This is the false god of New Age. It is worthy to note that Christ's deity is not evidenced in the Book of Enoch.

It appears that many statements in the Book of Enoch were taken from the Bible, and then built around with mumbo-jumbo. Many terms from the Biblical Book of Revelation are quoted in the Book of Enoch; but without any sense or reason (in sharp contrast to the Bible). All 66 Books of the Word of God perfectly intertwine with each other, presenting a clear prophetic picture. The Book of Enoch doesn't offer anything of doctrinal value, because it's bizarre teachings stand alone (i.e. unable to be supported with Scriptures). Some defenders of the Book of Enoch contend that Jesus often quoted from the Book of Enoch. Prove it!

Every Scripture Jesus ever quoted is found in the Old Testament, without any reference to a Book of Enoch. The strongest argument in favor of the Book of Enoch is found in Jude 1:14, "And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints." Since this quote is NOT found in the Old Testament, some scholars have used this fact in an attempt to legitimize the entire Book of Enoch. We read in chapter 1:9 of the Book of Enoch.

"And behold! He cometh with ten thousands of His holy ones To execute judgment upon all, And to destroy all the ungodly: And to convict all flesh Of all the works of their ungodliness which they have ungodly committed, And of all the hard things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him."

However, there is no Biblical record of a "Book of Enoch." There is NO doubt that Enoch made these statements as Jude 1:14 confirms; but that doesn't necessarily mean that he authored the entire Book of Enoch (or ANY of it for that matter). It's a question of who copied who? And remember, the Author of the Bible is GOD; not men. "For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost" (2nd Peter 1:21). To elevate the Book of Enoch to the level of God's Word is dangerous, unless it is truly God's Word! If Enoch did write the Book of Enoch, it raises the natural question of whether or not the work was inspired by God? The King James translators, 48 scholarly men skilled in the Hebrew and Greek languages, DIDN'T! Many godly men today write good books; but they are still flawed human beings, prone to sin, who aren't always doctrinally correct in every area. It would be a great evil to recognize their writings as EQUAL with God's Word (the Bible).

Jesus condemned following the TRADITIONS of men over the commandments of God (Mark 7:6-13). Even king David warned against trusting men rather than God (Psalm 118:. This is why Seventh-Day Adventists are a false religion, because they elevate the writings of Ellen G. White as EQUAL with the Bible. Scientologists do the same, by elevating the writings of Ron Hubbard as EQUAL with the Bible. Catholics are woefully guilty of elevating the teaching of the Vatican, fabricated over the centuries, as EQUAL with God's Word. Regardless of whether Enoch wrote the Book of Enoch or not, it is abundantly clear to the Biblically-sound believer that it is NOT inspired by God. It is also possible that Enoch's preaching was exploited and deliberately misconstrued after his death. The FACT of the matter is that the Book of Enoch is clearly a watered-down, heretical, manuscript filled with mumbo-jumbo. Unlike the Bible, the Book of Enoch doesn't appear to be going anywhere.

The Book of Enoch is a square peg which just doesn't fit anywhere. The wording is vague—a popular method of deception which Satan uses! Listen to the average televangelist these days and you'll get a watered-down sermonette; but hear no clear Gospel presentation. The occult is all about confusing people, which is why so many otherwise decent men join such a Satanic organization as Freemasonry. Benny Hinn's website appears to present the basic Gospel; but he is a known Catholic, who believes good works are necessary for salvation.

You'll NEVER hear Benny Hinn condemn Catholicism or teach that ADDING good works to faith alone is a road to Hell. If you ADD anything to the simple Gospel, you've perverted it (Galatians 1:7). Every hellbound Catholic believes that Jesus died, was buried, and rose again, and that the blood of Jesus takes sin away. Tragically, they are also trusting the sacraments (baptism, Eucharist, etc), the Rosary, the Virgin Mary, the Church, good works, etc, etc, etc. Religion NEVER saved anybody. Don't give me the old-time religion—GIVE ME JESUS!

⏺People 450-Feet Tall?

Are you really gullible enough to believe that fallen angels had physical intimacy with earthly women that produced offspring 450-feet tall? I don't think so! We read in chapter 7:12-15 of the Book of Enoch.

7:12 Whose stature was each (three hundred cubits). These (devoured) all which the labor of men produced; until it became impossible to feed them;
7:13 When they turned themselves (against men), in order to devour them;
7:14 And began to injure birds, beasts, reptiles, and fishes, to eat their flesh one after another, and to drink their blood.
7:15 Then the earth reproved the unrighteous.

A "cubit" is 1.5 feet. The ark which Noah built was 300 cubits long (Genesis 6:15). Do you mean to tell me that some women had children who were as tall as the ark was long? You've got to be joking! Such foolish conjecture is a violation of the simplest teachings of the Bible. In Genesis 6: we read, "There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown." I think Pastor J. Vernon McGee interprets this Scripture exactly right.

It says, “There were giants in the earth in those days,” but it does not say they are the offspring of the sons of God and the daughters of men. It does say this about the offspring: “the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.” These were not monstrosities; they were men. The record here makes it very clear that the giants were in the earth before this took place, and it simply means that these offspring were outstanding individuals.

Humanity has a tremendous capacity. Man is fearfully and wonderfully made—that is a great truth we have lost sight of. This idea that man has come up from some protoplasm out of a garbage can or seaweed is utterly preposterous. It is the belief of some scientists that evolution will be repudiated, and some folk are going to look ridiculous at that time.

Evolution is nothing in the world but a theory as far as science is concerned. Nothing has been conclusive about it. It is a philosophy like any other philosophy, and it can be accepted or rejected. When it is accepted, it certainly leads to some very crazy solutions to the problems of the world, and it has gotten my country into trouble throughout the world. Anyone would think that we are the white knight riding through the world straightening out wrongs. We are wrong on the inside ourselves! I do not know why in this country today we have an intelligentsia in our colleges, our government, our news media, and our military who think they are super, that somehow or another they have arrived. It is the delusion of the hour that men think that they are greater than they really are. Man is suffering from a fall, an awful fall. He is totally depraved today, and until that is taken into consideration, we are in trouble all the way along.

Then what do we have here in verse 4? As I see it, Genesis is a book of genealogies—it is a book of the families. The sons of God are the godly line who have come down from Adam through Seth, and the daughters of men belong to the line of Cain. What you have here now is an intermingling and intermarriage of these two lines, until finally the entire line is totally corrupted (well, not totally; there is one exception). That is the picture that is presented to us here.

SOURCE: McGee, J. Vernon, Thru the Bible with J. Vernon McGee, (Nashville: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 2000, c1981.


(⏺Conclusion:

The reason why the early church fathers and the King James Bible translator rejected the Book of Enoch as inspired of God, WASN'T to hide the truth; BUT, because it isn't the truth. The Book of Enoch is a fraud, an imposter, and straight from Hell. I triple-dog dare you to try cross-referencing the Book of Enoch with the Word of God. good luck! When I read in chapter 1:9 of the Book of Enoch that an angel named Phanuel is "set over the repentance unto hope of those who inherit eternal life". I knew the Book of Enoch was fraudulent.

Salvation is found ONLY in Christ Jesus, "Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole. This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved." King David said in Psalm 62:6, "He (Jesus) only is my rock and my salvation: he is my defence; I shall not be moved." Phanuel. you're a fraud! Jesus is t

It is NO coincidence nowadays, in this time of great apostasy—when homosexuals are being given in marriage, when babies are being murdered by the hundreds-of-millions worldwide through abortion, when witchcraft is all around us, when booze and gambling are commonplace, when sexual sins and lasciviousness have saturated society, when churches are silent concerning sin and false religion—that we should see

From Counterfeit Christianity Exposed

bros. whenever we tried to defend some flaws in the bible it makes us look stupid! in old testament whenever they referred a subject as 'son' of God it simply mean an Angel or spirit they don't refer an earthly man in such way please they refer mortal man as servant,slave or maid but in that genesis 6vs1-9, and Daniel 3vs25 I quote "he answered and said , lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire , and they have no hurt ; and the form of the fourth is like son of God" can you see that description there the fourth IN FORM OF SON OF GOD meaning the look of the FORTH is different. they called him Son of God. in Genesis 6 , the sons of God in that chapter are the same of that Daniel . some even believe that son of God in furnace is Jesus very funny. in old mesopotamia where Nebuchadnezzar ruled that was believe any spirit is a son of God or gods well. and you mentioned that why was that case that happened in Genesis 6 did not repeat itself go and revelation and some places in book of Peter that says if God can't spare those angels that left place in heaven bound them for eternal judgement. please go and read your bible and forget that white that know nothing about holy spirit. you are quoting from a man who claimed that Seth blood line are sons of God there is no where in old testament referring a man as a son of God is not possible Jesu give the grace to be called such in John 1 vs 12 no body from book of Genesis to Malachi don't be deceived .

MuttleyLaff:
You need to calm yourself down because I typed: "Peter and Jude, where they were denouncing it and funnily enough the heresy(ies) in the book" and never talked about any Peter and James condemned it please

You can find Peter, in 2 Peter 2:1-3 talking to warn about made up stories to secretly introduce destructive heresies and find Peter further, in 2 Peter 2:15-16, taking the example of Balaam (i.e. from Numbers 22-24) to talk about those saying things that God hadnt sanctioned or authored. I can go on more, but I am curious of the reason why you asked and questioning the motive behind you asking to be shown. Is it because you believe in the Book of Enoch ni?

The only counterfeit is the Book of Enoch and not Jude. I can detect that you dont see what Jude did there in Jude 1:14-19, and that is in particular to Jude 1:14-15. The red flag should have raised to warn you, if you had being in the spirit and so spotted the inconsistence there in Jude 1:14-15

Jude quoted from the same in jude1vs 14 relating the Enoch to adam even calling him a prophet and you are here saying another thing ? in verse 15 Jude talks what the Holy one is coming down to do in reference to that verse 14 ooh . now why did Jude quoted from fake source even consolidated with reference to Adam. well bible is just like a view you can see anything you wish to see.

then book of Jude1 vs 15- 19 quoted from such book meaning Jude is a counterfeit right?

MuttleyLaff:
I admire this kind of spirit that scrutinizes and most especially when done under the guidance of the Holy Spirit

Mediocrity, is ignoring the big elephant in the room, pretending its not there and then be discussing the ants or playing the hot potato game, tossing it about even before the music begins.

Agrogbeide nwanne my dear brother and friend, you do know there are three sets of the book of Enoch. There is the First Book of Enoch, otherwise known as the Ethiopian Book of Enoch, there is the Second Book of Enoch, otherwise known as The Slavonic Enoch or Secrets of Enoch and there is Third Book of Enoch, which is an Extended Version and is otherwise known as The Hebrew Book of Enoch.

The First Book of Enoch, otherwise known as the Ethiopian Book of Enoch, is probably the one you most likely admitted to have read and not find heretical. It is the one referenced in the New Testament by Peter and Jude, where they were denouncing it and funnily enough the heresy(ies) in the book

Just like you, I too the other day, long time ago, sat down to begin read the Book of Enoch. I couldnt believe what tall tale narrative I was reading that I had to chuck it aside because what I was reading just wasnt adding up together. No wonder Peter and Jude re-echoing Peter were among other things, condemning the Book of Enoch in their letter

"Ha! What do You want with us, Jesus of Nazareth? Have You come to destroy us? I know who You are--the Holy One of God!" You say you have faith, for you believe that there is one God. Good for you! Even the demons believe this, and they tremble in terror," that by the way was Luke 4:34 and James 2:19, now Agrogbeide, in light of those two verses, are you going to say because demons recognise Jesus for whom He is, then we safely can say, those demons in Luke 4:34 and James 2:19 arent heretical?

can you just show me in the bible where peter and James condemned it . please I need to know.

kenechukwufrank:
Love specialists have propagated that broken relationships are better than broken marriages, however, the person at the receiving end of a broken relationship find it a tough pill to swallow.

The case of Mr. Marshall Benard is the case of detraught and devastation after his fiancee dumped him a week to his wedding. According to Mr. Marshall Benard, he tried to get his fiancee, Gloria Patrick to reconsider her decision but it was like speaking reasons to a brick wall.

Mr. Marshall Benard, however, didn't disclose the reason why his fiancee took the decision, he just called it "irreconcilable differences".

A heartbroken Mr. Marshall Benard announced the cancellation of the wedding on his Facebook page and apologized to the invited guests while insisting that the bachelor's eve will still hold as planned.

The post reads;

1. Today, Monday, April 15, I was supposed to do a bulk SMS reminding everyone about my wedding this Saturday, April 20. But yesterday, Sunday, April 14, my bride canceled the wedding. Let's just chuck it up on 'irreconcilable differences.'

2. All efforts to get her to reconsider until 1 am last night proved ineffective. I respect her decision, but I wept like a baby. I could have done the unthinkable at midnight yesterday, but there is someone in me, called the Holy Spirit. He wouldn't let me do that. Right now, I'm fine, believe me.

3. Part of the nightmare came from how I would be embarrassing the senior people in my life who I had invited to the wedding, some of who have already made financial commitments. The traditional rites would be held this Thursday, April 18, and more than 85% of everything was in place for both the tradition and white wedding. Again, I wept like a toddler.

4. This is an apology to the general public which I have invited to the wedding, some of who have already bought gifts, made flight and hotel reservations, etc. I respect you enough to give this explanation. I am truly sorry for this mess. To my sponsors, I am sorry.


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is not by kneeling down that make woman to love and be a good wife but by true love and loyalty to you own love.

blackpanda:
obviously it radiates all around me

sorry okay you need treatment.

NaijaOlosho:
Is Atiku dating this woman Now


Am just asking oo

Is like she don fget who Buhari be o

so we should be mute? God is bigger than buhari, his entire generation and all his cabals God punish them and their supporters.

Adinoyi2020:
Seeking unnecessary attention, go and contest in ur state if you think you are popular and make the difference let's see

instead we should support her for her boldness and you are here talking trash well God will visit every enemy of this great country one by one.

blackpanda:
reason and logic vs. emotions and village sense mentality smh

I can sense stupidity in that comment .

blackpanda:
when u are ignorant of something and someone is trying to teach u, pay attention instead of reacting blindly. Stop dwelling and jubilating in your ignorance ok. when u strike out a matter, the accused can be arrested and tried again the very next day. it is not an acquittal of the charges

efcc I know that's how they operate.

funmijoyb:
PDP was in power in imo when Herdsmen cut off a innocent woman's hand. PDP was there when innocent women were raped.. And lest I forget Enugu blood bath is still fresh in the memory.

What are you insinuating.. Bringing Tinubu matter to what doesn't correlated? Boy go and get wisdom bf chestbeating unnecessarily.

people never want the truth and good living !!you don't know the value of what you have until you loose it. now let's us enjoy this regime together. last year was the first time they called Nigeria the capital of poverty in the adminstration of people claiming they have achieved more than their predecessor what a joke. sister you might have someone in this administration but the truth is that this government is the worst in our history . Fulani's herdsmen kill at free will, police are doing theirs while soldiers were used tools to abused people in the last election still you see nothing wrong well I have one word for you! as buhari is handling this country like this may God Almighty handle your life in that manner so that every aspect of your life will face insecurities and scarcity of good living amen.

blackpanda:
there is a difference between striking out a matter and dismissing and acquiting an accused. Google is your friend

what they need to do is going back to their drawing board and look for another evidence . see efcc is people I know very well and I have had encountered with them . in their office they called them almighty efcc where is they need to do more. they loose cases on daily basis because their cases lack merits.

Oddsman:
Im not saying she should not speak. Let her speak but also, let her do something too. If she want to showcase her luxurious lifestyle, she will not remember that Nigeria is hellish right? Live your life. These celebrities are just attention seekers. Except she wants to go into political activism like Oby Ezekwesili, let her do her own assist to Nigerians than complain of government 24/7. We have been complaining Nigerian government is bad since 1960

Also, your signature does not reflect the last sentence.

she has her own right to do what she likes but she is Nigerian citizen right ah na wah oooh this sentiment is getting out of hand.

blackpanda:
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stop blabing. EFCC followed the law. Your pains are irritating pls

which law are they following? the court struck out their case and what are they suppose to do?

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The guilty are afraid!

Case closed!

that's how they used loose cases on daily basis . court have struck out the case and you went ahead to get her arrested ! can you see why they called Africa a shithole very bad no respect for the law and order anymore. mind she is only guilty if the court affirm it but the lacked genuine evidence to nail her so they should go and dig more than show that they are monkeys.