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Ichiato:
Not to statues. To Mary and other saints. Now pls answer my own question

You prostrate to the saints in front of the statues.

Second question: I don't know o, that's what I have been asking you to teach me.

Besides, I have answered you on this matter.

dmandy:
Bro, u can't live a lie.... We have proven to u that cathoĺics don't worship images.

Guy, its simple. I am sorry. What kind of Christianity do we practice?

Of course I know in your mind you don't worship those images.

The issue is with the scriptures. What does God think about it? That's what I have been trying to make you show me all along.

May you guys not be making a grave mistake.

So Ichiato and dmandy

after all said and done, none of you could provide me concrete and valid scriptures

You could not even defend the Rev Scripture. SMH

I knew the meaning all along. I just wanted to see how you guys will fare. You did woeful mehn. Is that how you would have explained it to an unbeliever or a baby christian?

dmandy:
We are done tee tee. Apologise to Catholics al over the world. You have lied against them or you continue in ur pride.

I didn't lie brother. I only asked you guys questions. And all of you were busy fumbling.

I could bring other quotes from some of your other fellows to show you where you err.

Ichiato:
but we also found out that prostrating is not only used in worship. didn't we?

So you prostrate to statues right?

Ichiato:
hehehe, So you can't answer my question.

Saints are going to be taking up to God but with God their is only one throne.

Haba! I always have my scriptures on standby.

'He who overcomes, I will grant to him to sit down with Me on My throne, as I also overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne."

AND HE SHALL RULE THEM WITH A ROD OF IRON, AS THE VESSELS OF THE POTTER ARE BROKEN TO PIECES, as I also have received authority from My Father;

Is that not your rod of Iron there, and the throne?

dmandy:
Na today I give up?

I am only waiting for an apology.

Catholics don't worship Mary or statues. An apology, be a Christian and act like one. Leave straws.

So you've raised the white flag.

dmandy:
Will you forever continue to lie?

You posted the link here. It said clearly Christians don't worship images.

And I never said you people worship images. We were talking of prostrating and we later even found out prostrating was used in worship also.

Ichiato:
you saw both In the passage I quoted, why are you trying to separate them?

So answer this question:

Are saints going to be taking up to God?

And are some saints going to have their own thrones?

dmandy:
Baba Jesus has the colt... I gat my voice and the branches. Next time I will post u my pix

Chai! dmandy has giving up. You don't even know what to explain again.

Go sleep ehn.

Ichiato:
And these saints were taken up to God and to their throne? Pls how did you arrive at that theory.

What theory? The throne or taking up to God?

dmandy:
Your male saint is the one who will rule all nations.
He is also the one prophesied about in Isaiah.
smh

Show me where it says Messiah there.

dmandy:
those were his disciples... I am one. I shout Hosanna In the Highest. Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord.

How will you be shouting with no colt.

dmandy:
The book said a male child.

There are male saints also. Isn't it?

dmandy:
No, some brought leaves. I bring what I have

Those where not the twelve. Which He gave that command to.

dmandy:
Funny you. A male child to u means many saints.

Nope! it could mean just one saint.

That's why I said prove to me it was the messiah. You never tell me the version of your own bible o. That you tried to deceive me with.

dmandy:
I don't have one, but as the disciples dropped leave branches.... I drop mine.

Don't you think you disobeyed by not bringing a colt?

dmandy:
Y won't they leave? Instead of apologising that u accused Catholics wrongly of worshipping statues you are holding fast unto straw.

I got it from your website na.

Ichiato:
I doubt you are a christian. You need proof that the won who his all nation with an iron scepter is Jesus? Have you ever opened the bible? Who else has a throne by right of God? I won't waste my time with frivolities

There are saints who are going to rule nations with a rod of Iron as Jesus said in Rev.

And also saints are also caught up to God's throne.

dmandy:
Says who?

You haven't seen where the feast of Triumphant entry of Jesus is celebrated before? You are learner

The question is do you do it? Do you bring a colt to Him? No is talking about feast here. After all we all celebrate Easter.

dmandy:
so?

I thought you said I would run.

I still have many things to ask. But as usual, you have not answered my basic questions.

dmandy:
1. Now you even miss the point in ur text. The rule is that 2 or 3 witnesses are valid. Note that 2 or 3 Will validate the rule. The rule is valid on its own.

2. That Jesus gave His mother to me is not any doctrine. It is a statement of fact weitten in the gospel of John. With the following witnesses

1. Jesus himself
2. Mary my mother
3. a beloved disciple
4. Mary's sister, Mary the wife od Clwopas
5. Mary Magdalene etc

If 5 witnesses cannot validate to u that the Bible is real. sorry

Yes, when Jesus gave the command to bring the donkey, the twelve disciples were there and even the donkey owner and maybe other followers.

So I don't know why you don't bring a colt to Jesus to ride on.

dmandy, your guys are giving up.

Ichiato:
I told you already that the woman is Mary and her son Jesus. You say otherwise? then tell us who they are.

I don't know , that's why I said tell me with proofs. And you've not given me any.

Ichiato:
Rev 12: 14-16
Who gave the woman wings?
where is this wilderness that is out of the serpents reach?

The only way you can care for your mother who is in heaven is to honor and respect her.

And for you to expect Rev 12 to still spell it out for that you are to take care of your mother shows how unwise you are. Every sane human will know that Rev 12 has said enough already.

But that first scripture you guys gave said the disciple took her to his house from that day..

I thought Mary was in your house? Why is she in heaven?

dmandy:
You have no point at all? Doctrine and killing, I don't get it.

Trying to change topic I see..

Jesus quoted an old testament scripture there. So I also gave you the O.T. and also one from the epistles.

Let me help your brain:

Doctrine: Rule or principle.

It was a principle or rule at some times in the O.T to stone someone to death. And that scripture says it has to be validated 2 or 3 witnesses.

In the N.T we have new rules and principles which also must have been validated before we can call it a doctrine.

dmandy:
What did u see in your own?

What you saw in your own.

dmandy:
You talk of doctrine then you quote killing someone. Are you high?

Do you want me to be low.

It's obvious you are out of points.

dmandy:
Rev 12:5

No Messiah there.

dmandy:
So how many messiahs are there?

Show me the word Messiah there.

dmandy:
What has putting somebody to death got to do with doctrine..... do you kill people in your church?

How did two or more witnesses change to many passages of the bible.

You are a clown.

That was why my last statement was written. And that was why the N.T scriptures was given. Enlighten yourself.

Ichiato:
Rev 12: 5 Please who is the woman and the child this passage is talking about. and Rev 12: 17 Is she different from the woman in this second passage?

That's what I want you to tell me na. Show me where it says Messiah as your friend said.