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Christianity Etc › Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Jeromejnr(m): 11:12pm On Sep 11, 2015

dmandy:
Hahahahahhahahaha

I am enjoying this.... so permit is the same thing as command.

No change mouth.

But you said God Himself commanded the sculpturing. And you Showed me that scripture to show that because He commanded it, he permits Graven images isn't' it?

Christianity Etc › Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Jeromejnr(m): 11:09pm On Sep 11, 2015

dmandy:
Yes I do in recognition of the presence God and not to any image.

The building is called a tabernacle or sanctuary or chapel.

Taaaah!

Commot here.

Christianity Etc › Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Jeromejnr(m): 11:08pm On Sep 11, 2015

dmandy:
You have eye issues... go back to the post. I said permitted.

Whats the difference Oga. Command/Permit as applied to that scripture.

You tried to state that God Commanded the sculpturing of the ark therefore as a result He permits graven images.

I sabi English Oga.

Christianity Etc › Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Jeromejnr(m): 11:05pm On Sep 11, 2015

dmandy:
I can tell you what I know. I don't know what you have seen. The Catholic church has NEVER taught anybody to worship any images.

Anybody doing that is in error.

Yes I told you the use of the images. We use them to remember the persons therein contained. How do you mean I changed my mouth? I didn't. I stand by what I said.

The same way your girlfriends pix reminds of her life and times. The same way the ark reminded the people of Isreal of God and the covenant they had with Him. That's what the images does.

God is not a double standard Godm

Okay, lets get this straight.

Whenever you enter your (I have forgotten what they call that building now) to pray, do you bow down before entering or not?

Christianity Etc › Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Jeromejnr(m): 11:03pm On Sep 11, 2015

dmandy:
So y ask me about command?

Because you said God commanded in that scripture.

Christianity Etc › Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Jeromejnr(m): 10:51pm On Sep 11, 2015

dmandy:
Which scripture? Tankah? I couldn't see tsnkah in my bible.

But you saw Hebrew right. wink

The O.T was written in Hebrew and not Latin.

Christianity Etc › Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Jeromejnr(m): 10:50pm On Sep 11, 2015

dmandy:
Command? Read Heb 9:5 and show urself command.

I didn't see o. Maybe you could show me.

Christianity Etc › Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Jeromejnr(m): 10:50pm On Sep 11, 2015

dmandy:
What am I supposed to explain here, that ur selfie is golden.

Are u sleeping?

You have no point.

You've totally lost track of your own accusations.

Christianity Etc › Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Jeromejnr(m): 10:48pm On Sep 11, 2015

author=dmandy post=37920100

1. Yes it was an image of a cherubim, and cherubims are in heaven.

Praise the Lord!

2. Yes it was commanded by God.(the same God you said is against images) Get ur acts together. He is not a double standard God.

God also said thou shalt not kill, but He told the Israelites to go to war. It's called righlty dividing the word of truth.

3. No, they did not bow down to worship it for it was not God. But David danced in the presence of the ark. even like someone who was drunk.

Thank God you know they didn't bow down to worship it. But to show how confused some of you are, I can bring up a quote by one of your fellows that said they bowed to it as he was trying to justify bowing to Mary.

Now we have established that God allows images, Catholics don't bow down to worship or pray to any images.

You can't tell men this, I have seen it myself. And you also said the statue reminds you of them when you go to pray so why change mouth.

Christianity Etc › Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Jeromejnr(m): 10:37pm On Sep 11, 2015

dmandy:
Its an image and God allows us to make images.

I can see you're running out of explanations.

Let's carry on.

Christianity Etc › Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Jeromejnr(m): 10:36pm On Sep 11, 2015

dmandy:
Explain what oga.

Heb 9;5 God permits graven image.

Can you show us the command in that scripture please.

Christianity Etc › Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Jeromejnr(m): 10:34pm On Sep 11, 2015

dmandy:
Googled said yes. Made of pure gold.

So God can allow graven image afterall.

Come on with another lie. I am not working tomorrow.

So is my selfie a golden image? grin

Christianity Etc › Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Jeromejnr(m): 10:33pm On Sep 11, 2015

dmandy:
When you start playing around with translations?

Was the cherubim image on the ark graven?

1. Was the Cherubim real according to what was in heaven?

2. Was it commanded by God for Moses to make that Cherubim?

3. Did they bow and pray to the Cherubim?

Answer that in regard to your Mary Statue.

Christianity Etc › Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Jeromejnr(m): 10:28pm On Sep 11, 2015

dmandy:
Was it s graven image?

Ask google.

Christianity Etc › Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Jeromejnr(m): 10:27pm On Sep 11, 2015

dmandy:
I laugh in tongues...JPS Tanakh. lolx.

Na him write the book of Hebrews?

you believe him more than the Bible now.

Okay, since you don't like that one, why don't we go with the more authorised King James.

Lest you corrupt yourselves, and make you a graven image, the form of any figure, the likeness of male or female,

Wow! Amazing! The word graven is still there.

Or do you still want more?? cool

Christianity Etc › Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Jeromejnr(m): 10:24pm On Sep 11, 2015

dmandy:
The very moment when the Bible texts are exhausted and you start quoting Tanka and Tipper.

Haha. Come up with something else.

Explain that scripture and don't run away from it.

We are waiting.

Christianity Etc › Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Jeromejnr(m): 10:23pm On Sep 11, 2015

dmandy:
Jeez,

How funny can you be thats ur Hebrew text.

smh.

Heb 9:5 Above the ark were cherubim of Glory, overshadowing thr atonement cover.

Now that is a carved image of an angel in heaven.

Tell me God committed idolatry.

As for you ark:
"39"It shall be made from a talent of pure gold, with all these utensils. 40"See that you make them after the pattern for them, which was shown to you on the mountain."

Acts 7:44
"Our ancestors had the tabernacle of the covenant law with them in the wilderness. It had been made as God directed Moses, according to the pattern he had seen."

Heb 8:5
They serve at a sanctuary that is a copy and shadow of what is in heaven. This is why Moses was warned when he was about to build the tabernacle: "See to it that you make everything according to the pattern shown you on the mountain."

Ex 26:30
Set up the tabernacle according to the plan shown you on the mountain.

As you can see. God showed Moses the mercy seat and Cherubims in the heavens. And he made it according to that pattern. The writer of Hebrews later says, those things where a shadow of what is in the heavenlies.

But your Mary statue, I don't know where you got it from. Did God also show you? grin

Christianity Etc › Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Jeromejnr(m): 10:09pm On Sep 11, 2015

dmandy:
I have never pulled out of any thread... that's your thing.

Quote ur Hebrew text na. is it difficult? You have been quoting others. Go ahead.

To help you more.

JPS Tanakh 1917
lest ye deal corruptly, and make you a graven image, even the form of any figure, the likeness of male or female,

Christianity Etc › Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Jeromejnr(m): 10:07pm On Sep 11, 2015

dmandy:
I have never pulled out of any thread... that's your thing.

Quote ur Hebrew text na. is it difficult? You have been quoting others. Go ahead.

http://biblehub.com/text/deuteronomy/4-16.htm

Come back with your testimony. cool

Christianity Etc › Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Jeromejnr(m): 10:03pm On Sep 11, 2015

dmandy:
Quote your text.

Out of words I see. cheesy

Its me and you today. Since you pulled my legs. And this time don't run like you do other threads.

Christianity Etc › Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Jeromejnr(m): 9:59pm On Sep 11, 2015

dmandy:
Don't make me laugh.

I just did.... the bible said any image be it man or woman. Is your picture an image? Are you a man?

Try again. cool

refer to above.

Christianity Etc › Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Jeromejnr(m): 9:57pm On Sep 11, 2015

dmandy:
I am not twisting anything sir.

Your picture is also involved in the scripture for it says 'image of any shape ..... formed like a man'. Are you not a man?

The Hebrew of that verse says graven image.

Graven: carved; sculptured:
a graven idol.

So taking a picture with a phone or camera is not carved or sculptured.

Still waiting for your exposition.

If you like, I can bring out the Hebrew text.

grin

Christianity Etc › Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Jeromejnr(m): 9:52pm On Sep 11, 2015

dmandy:
I am not twisting anything sir.

Your picture is also involved in the scripture for it says 'image of any shape ..... formed like a man'. Are you not a man?

You've not said anything na grin

Explain it to us.

Christianity Etc › Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Jeromejnr(m): 9:50pm On Sep 11, 2015

dmandy:
You make me laugh in tongues.

Hahahhahahahahhahahahahahhahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahaha

Now that u have answered my silly question. Doesn't it answer your wise question?

*facepalm*

Well answer my second post.

Or is it giving you a hard time. Trying to come up with something.

You've never seen that scripture before abi. cool

Christianity Etc › Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Jeromejnr(m): 9:45pm On Sep 11, 2015

dmandy:
Maradona,
You don run come here?

No, I didn't take picture of Mary or Jesus.

Now answer mine. But try to read the full response I gave your second about images.

You make images of yourself who is on earth, are you worshiping idol?

Deuteronomy 4:16
so that you do not become corrupt and make for yourselves an idol, an image of any shape, whether formed like a man or a woman,

The statue of Mary is involved in that scripture. I want to see how you will twist scriptures and explain this verse.

Christianity Etc › Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Jeromejnr(m): 9:42pm On Sep 11, 2015

dmandy:
Maradona,
You don run come here?

No, I didn't take picture of Mary or Jesus.

Now answer mine. But try to read the full response I gave your second about images.

So let me answer your silly question.

"You shall have no other gods before Me. 4"You shall not make for yourself an idol, or any likeness of what is in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the water under the earth. 5"You shall not worship them or serve them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children, on the third..."

So how does me taking a picture of myself mean I want to bow down and worship myself?

Don't you see its talking of images to worship? You are interpreting the scriptures the same way you did for those ants.

I employ you to speak in tongues at least 5hours every day so you could understand scriptures clearly.

Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Adam And Eve Story To Be Understood Literally? by Jeromejnr(m): 9:36pm On Sep 11, 2015

misreal:
mtchhww...OK oh..calling me a hypocrite or even abusing me won't make me worship Mary..I guess your pope holds the sole right of bible interpretation... Mine is the holy ghost.. If you dont believe in the holy ghost,then we have nothing to argue about?? I have tried to avoid argument but you keep pushing it..a beg I don't tire......please go worship Mary while I pray for you.

Epic ending. grin

Christianity Etc › Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Jeromejnr(m): 9:33pm On Sep 11, 2015

dmandy:
okay.

No, there is nothing to answer above.

Okay, this is for you to answer, hope you can manufacture a little time.

You believe making images is paganism, and you take pictures of yourself. Are you a pagan?

So you took picture of Mary or Jesus?

Christianity Etc › Re: Mary Apparition- Confirming Our Election Part 3 by Jeromejnr(m): 8:40pm On Sep 11, 2015

italo:
Nameless invisible "witnesses."

Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Adam And Eve Story To Be Understood Literally? by Jeromejnr(m): 8:30pm On Sep 11, 2015

misreal:
hahahaa.she we agreed that you won the argument? Why quote me again? You claim you know the truth when you don't interpreted the bible with the help of the holy ghost,but rather with the aid of the pope..any form of biblical interpretation that doesn't exalt,honor,magnifies and portrays the lordship of Jesus is in error,yet you boast to know the scripture.. You pray the rosary which is a consequense of pagan customs yet you say you know the scriptures,You pray through Mary and other saints which is also a consequence of pagan custom that infiltrated the church.this pagan cultures,needs to be taken out of your places of worship,else you willbe promoting your church false teachings while you live a sinful life..please stop quoting me a beg..if my stance,annoys you I am sorry because sometimes we just have to be brutal.

He's not sure of what he believes in that's why he is quoting you.

Christianity Etc › Re: Mary Apparition- Confirming Our Election Part 3 by Jeromejnr(m): 8:20pm On Sep 11, 2015

italo:
@dmandy see how another one bites the dust.

Someone that has spent the whole day telling lies suddenly doesn't have time to defend one of his lies.

Meanwhile he will continue to have time telling lies on other threads.

@misreal, here's your kind.

Thank God I've witnesses. cool

Enjoy your queen of heaven.

Christianity Etc › Re: Mary Apparition- Confirming Our Election Part 3 by Jeromejnr(m): 8:01pm On Sep 11, 2015

italo:
Of course you can't quote where I said it...like you can't quote where the Pope said Jesus isn't coming back.

You just vomit lies for a living.

Of course you know I can quote it.

But I don't have your time.

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