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This is why atheists insult Christians.

Let's learn to get our facts right.

blackfase:
^^^^^^^^^^

The easiest way to keep facts from a black man?.........Hide it in a book or an essay!

Mr. Man, I have read what you wrote up there.

I didn't see how God was against prosperity message in the article.

Na wa for this generation of Christians.

OP please go back and ask them why it is wrong to use an iPad to preach.

Instead of many Christians to focus on being Christ like, they involve themselves with frivolous issues that never mean anything.

johnydon22:
Forgetting during Clinical death the brain is still very much alive. . As a matter of fact the brain is the last organ that dies in the body and lasts up to 7minutes after ACTUAL DEATH

That was why I gave the article above where scientists said that people had their experiences 2- 3 Minutes after the brain had shit down.

Aizenosa:
Same goes for u protestants, ever heard of Catholic Charismatic Reunion, each time dey organise a program it's filled with protestants

No 1: I am not a protestant.

No 2: Its a Catholics and Charismatic reunion two different movements why won't "protestants" be there. It's a reunion for crying out loud.

And BTW, they are not even protestants, they are known as Charismatics. You guys don't even know what protestant means.

The fact that someone like Hitler that killed millions of people cannot go unpunished.

Secondly read this article:

There is scientific evidence to suggest that life can continue after death, according to the largest ever medical study carried out on the subject.
A team based in the UK has spent the last four years seeking out cardiac arrest patients to analyse their experiences, and found that almost 40 per cent of survivors described having some form of “awareness” at a time when they were declared clinically dead.
Experts currently believe that the brain shuts down within 20 to 30 seconds of the heart stopping beating – and that it is not possible to be aware of anything at all once that has happened.

But scientists in the new study said they heard compelling evidence that patients experienced real events for up to three minutes after this had happened – and could recall them accurately once they had been resuscitated.
Dr Sam Parnia, an assistant professor at the State University of New York and a former research fellow at the University of Southampton who led the research, said that he previously that patients who described near-death experiences were only relating hallucinatory events.
One man, however, gave a “very credible” account of what was going on while doctors and nurses tried to bring him back to life – and says that he felt he was observing his resuscitation from the corner of the room.
Speaking to The Telegraph about the evidence provided by a 57-year-old social worker Southampton, Dr Parnia said: “We know the brain can’t function when the heart has stopped beating.
“But in this case, conscious awareness appears to have continued for up to three minutes.
“The man described everything that had happened in the room, but importantly, he heard two bleeps from a machine that makes a noise at three minute intervals. So we could time how long the experienced lasted for.
“He seemed very credible and everything that he said had happened to him had actually happened.”
Dr Parnia’s study involved 2,060 patients from 15 hospitals in the UK, US and Austria, and has been published in the journal Resuscitation.
Of those who survived, 46 per cent experienced a broad range of mental recollections, nine per cent had experiences compatible with traditional definitions of a near-death experience and two per cent exhibited full awareness with explicit recall of “seeing” and “hearing” events – or out-of-body experiences. Dr Parnia said that the findings of the study as a whole suggested that “the recalled experience surrounding death now merits further genuine investigation without prejudice”.
Dr Jerry Nolan, editor-in-chief of the journal which published the research, said: “The researchers are to be congratulated on the completion of a fascinating study that will open the door to more extensive research into what happens when we die.”

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/life-after-death-largestever-study-provides-evidence-that-out-of-body-and-neardeath-experiences-may-actually-be-real-9780195.html

cidieschat:
FYI, get your facts right, Bishop Oyedepo never prophesied that Gej would win. He only prayed for him.

If he only prayed for him, why didn't the prayers work?

And why did he not pray for Buhari whom God has already chosen. Just like Kings being prayed for in the Bible when chosen.

1. Blessing someone is different from praying that the person win an election.

2. The president came to him and not he to the president. So he would still pray for him whether it was God's will for him to win or not.

3. God never told him who the president would be. God does not tell men of God everything in case you didn't know. Just like when Elijah spoke of God not telling him that the child of the woman whom he had blessed had died.

God also did not tell Jesus that John the Baptist had been beheaded, it was some disciples that came to tell him.

The kings that got prayed for in the O.T happened because God specifically told the prophet to go anoint the person.

God has given every nation the solution to its problems centuries ago in His word. And people of the earth refuse to apply it. So what else are you looking for?

BTW, when Jesus came why didn't He go and meet the ruler of His nation and give him the solution to their economical problems?

FYI, get your facts right, Bishop Oyedepo never prophesied that Gej would win. He only prayed for him.

Why don't some of you read the bible for crying out loud. This is to add to the scripture sportsmaster gave above.

Romans 14 5One person considers one day more sacred than another; another considers every day alike. Each of them should be fully convinced in their own mind. 6Whoever regards one day as special does so to the Lord. Whoever eats meat does so to the Lord, for they give thanks to God; and whoever abstains does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God. 7For none of us lives for ourselves alone, and none of us dies for ourselves alone. 8If we live, we live for the Lord; and if we die, we die for the Lord. So, whether we live or die, we belong to the Lord.

So you'd better check if your so called revelation is of God.

ribbit:
and the meaningless posts continue ..

I'm done .


Next person with something meaningful to say please..

Its all God's plan na.

ribbit:
it seems you have problem with comprehension ..

If they say something is automatic and cannot be changed . it means you are stuck with it, it is forced on you by god .. A billion prayers won't change his plans ..

We all know even the plans you are making is already gods plan so what is there to nullify ?


Lemme make it simple for you..
Let's say I'm your boss at work, and I have plans for every worker that works under me and no one can change these plans even if they desire or beg me from now till next week .. And my plan for you is sack you after a certain period of time and then make you rich .. What is the point of you wishing and begging when its not gonna change any thing ? I already forced my plan on you and nothing is gonna change it ..

It's not so hard to understand now .

So let's go by your logic. Since you say we are all doing God's plan and no one can nullify it.

You called his post a meaningless contribution...

What of it was God's plan for him to write the "meaningless contribution" on your thread? According to you that means it was God's plan. So why get annoyed at his post.

Or it was also God's plan for you also to reply his "meaningless post"?

After all everything is automatic, forced by God and cannot be changed as you said.

I am just here to observe.

But anyway, I remember I asked God this question about two to three years ago when someone died that prayed much. And He gave me the answer.

I will just summarise in this one sentence for you Spirit filled Christians:

"Labour to enter your rest, turn the ship of your life around with your words in consistency".

CaptainJune:
Hahahaha. Jeromejnr, have you seen this thread? My belle wan burst wit laughter here o. Sometimes I wonder if there is an end in sight to this display of ignorance?

So prayer is now useless because God's plans now translates to His bounden duty towards you whether you express a desire for it or not. It now justifies your PRIDE of expectation and INGRATITUDE since, in your opinion, it is God's plan, not yours, which He must fulfill and, as such, prayer is redundant. It means you can be lazy or irresponsible and still be rich and great - God's plans to the rescue. God is your robot that cleans your mess, tidies your bedroom, cooks for you and bathes you since it is His plan for you to be clean, to have a clean environment, and be well fed.

Scholar8200 and God2man, nice contributions.

My brother, From this, I think I have seen why most people I see every day that claim to be Christians are living such powerless and defeated lives. Their concept and version of God is very ludicrous.

Chai! Na wa o. Sometimes you wonder if people can read or not. Are the scriptures that hard to understand?

The ignorance I see here is extremely profound. Instead of them to read anointed books to aid their understanding, they won't.

SMH.

Firstly, Whether one tithes or not is never a problem. Either way God still blesses you.

Secondly, most pastors that support tithing do not do it out of selfish interest, even if tithing might not be commanded in the N.T, they do it out of what they learnt growing up, the culture they were inoculated into, in all honesty and sincerity of their hearts.

So because someone preaches tithing does not mean anyone should judge him cause God knows his heart.

shizzy7:
**AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL said.NA is Maltreating BH suspects --- YOU TALK SHIIT

**NA releases BH Suspects --- YOU TALK SHIIT

**NOW they want to punish the guilty officers --- YOU'RE STILL SAYING SHIIT

Don't mind the pessimistic wailer.

misreal:
k

K for kite.

Ichiato:
tell that to the isrealites who also revered the ark of the covenant the same way. Were they also idol worshippers?

So was Mary on the ark?

The ark was commanded by God. Your Mary statue was commanded by who?

No basis for your claim. Non whatsoever.

Ichiato:
stop talking nonsence my friend. At one point you're giving a suggestion at another point you knew the the meaning of the passage. Who gives suggestive meaning to a passage they really know the true meaning? A two faced lair those.

Where you not the one that wanted to educate me? O gave a suggestion for consideration because O wanted you to "enlighten" me. Which you couldn't.

So why didn't you show me where it said it was the Messiah as you guys said?

BTW, I never did tell you what I knew was the meaning. So don't jump to assumptions.

Those two guys you mentioned are the wrongest set of people for the discussion.

I would recommend Stephansmily.

misreal:
my brother I greet you this morning.

Bro!

Wadup.

So tomorrow is supposed to be rapture or wat?

dmandy:
Below are your words oga.

No worship there.

Dmandy

Whenever you find it, i will answer you later In the morning.

Ciao!

And they left one after the other.

3 against 1. Na wa o.

dmandy:
Is that an apology?

Nope. My quote first.

dmandy:
pride and arrogance

Bro!

I am still waiting for my quote.

I want to sleep now.

dmandy:
Sure.

But you know now that we don't? Make peace with your conscience

It might be different in God's eyes after all the commands He gave. And also some might be worshiping those statues while others are not.

So it is not about me.

dmandy:
Sure.

But you know now that we don't? Make peace with your conscience

It might be different in God's eyes after all the commands He gave. And also some might be worshiping those statue while others are not.

Ichiato:
Are you listening to the gibberish you are saying? You don't know the saint who you claim Rev 12 could have been referring to? And you can't even even provide an ample proof why you think so, yet you claimed to know the meaning of the passage all along. smh for you bro

I gave a suggestion not a dogma. I said it could be a saint.

That was why I wanted you to provide proof for me that it spoke of the Messiah. But you still couldn't.

dmandy:
Pride is evil.... if you knew the above and said otherwise you lied. An apology brother

Quote me where I said you guys worship Mary first.

Ichiato:
Lol, you knew the meaning but failed to enlighten us, instead you preferred to dodge questions with frivolities. I know whenever you decide to become a true christian these passages will arrest you like Christ arrested saint Paul.

From our discussions, it shows you don't even know what you have been talking about. You just gave a scripture out of context and still could not explain it.

Well, no one has shown me a second scripture where it says Jesus gave Mary to us.

When you have the scripture, come back.

dmandy:
Giant christian u lied against me and my brethren and God is watching. say sorry

Sorry for what first?