chrisooblog: i agree 100% Man U would have been ideal for Mikel. Chelsea and Mourinho were just desperate not to give Ferguson any ammunition to hurt them.
Dude the thing weak me sef. I mean look at someone like Carrick before he arrived Man U he was just another random jam body english midfielder but see how ferguson polished him. That's one of the reasons I'm not a huge fan of Jose respect his successes but as a developer of talents i rate him very low
Do you people think we don't watch ball here? Carrick another jam body? Somebody that was a top talent at spurs?
TheGoodJoe: Ferguson would have not. He flew to Norway three times to convince Mikel to turn down Chelsea. I watched two of them on MUTV.
He wanted and had a plan for Mikel. He would not have sold him.
I am telling you how desperate Ferguson wanted Mikel and his belief in him. You are just guessing and writing people are delusional without a reason to back it up.
TheGoodJoe: I watched it. They did not tell me. I used to be a died hard Manchester United fan from 1996 to 2010.
Ferguson went to Norway repeatedly. The last I watched, Mikel refused to attend to him.
Manchester United manager Alex Ferguson considered travelling to Oslo to visit Mikel, but decided against this after Mikel was reported to have left the country. (taken from Google)
12large1: You guys are seriously delusional saying Chelsea destroyed Mikel. Yes, mikel started his football as a CAM before signing for Chelsea and was utilized as a CDM initially and eventually. But please did Chelsea sign mikel on a lifetime contract? No. Mikel could had left the club even after 1 season if he felt unjustified at his position so please cut that crap. There are no guarantees that he would even had succeeded at man utd. A player that has 2 epl 4 fa cups 2 europa leagues 1 CL 2 carling cup
For Chelsea and even played in almost all finals is described as "failed"
You sabi, Ferguson could have loaned him or sell him to a dead British club, do they think he'll make Mikel the creative hub of the team? That is the height of being delusional
edi287: Yep. Plus I think Mou wanted to make him a 2 way midfielder...same with Pogba. But Mikel never had the stamina to play that kind of role. When you have a talent like that - you adjust.
Mikel would have faded out of the game pretty early or end up playing midtable teams/relegation battlers
TheGoodJoe: Mikel having or not having a problem with it is not the point. Mikel made a professional sacrifice but the World of football had a huge loss in that sacrifice too.
Until today we are yet to see a midfielder with such Grace and the destruction was huge.
Chelsea did not need him. Mourinho just wanted to destroy the union with Alex Ferguson, hoping to gain an edge. His selfishness destroyed a big impact in football.
If they did not need him how come he played so much? Even under Mou when it was easier to loan him out
TheSuperNerd: There's a reason why the Atlas Lions have been my second favorite African side after the Super Eagles for a long while now. They always boast beautifully technical players and they were also impressive at WC 2018.
They struggled to kill off games at the world cup (hallmark of all Renard teams)
TheSuperNerd: Ighalo wasn't better than Nacho at the WC. Your agenda stinks so much that you had to lie about the first goal vs Iceland. Etebo passed to Moses?? Etebo that was near the left side of the opponent box for our counter when Moses crossed the ball that Musa Intercepted and slotted past Haldorsson intelligently?? How in the world did Etebo send Moses a pass I pray thee?? Christ!!!
Musa won the ball off an Iceland set-piece(corner I believed) which landed near mid-field in our own half and set off on the run after seeing the ball fall kindly to Iheanacho. Iheanacho took few touches and found Moses sending Moses on his way to go deliver the assist for Musa. So what are you saying? Tell me just how insignificant that was!!
In same game, Iheanacho took a few corners one of which saw Balogun come close to scoring from. His staying high up the pitch with Musa against a Compact Iceland eventually paid off and caused Iceland's loss. The first goal was because Iceland threw about seven men forward for their set-piece and we hit them on the counter thanks to Musa's resilience in the air and follow-up sprint up the pitch and Iheanacho's pass to Moses.
Meanwhile, Iggy vs Croatia was all round piss poor. One insignificant shot on target doesn't change that fact.
He was benched and rightly so and Nacho paired with Musa in a 3-5-2. That yielded result. Nacho laid on the pass to Moses that led to the assist for the goal. Funny how you somehow dragged Etebo into this. Kaaiii. Etebo that was waiting for pass.
Also against Argentina, Rohr confirmed Nacho was playing with a knock (despite having Ighalo on the bench) which saw him drop his own disasterclass even before the Argentines kungfu kicked him outta the game. Then Ighalo came in and dropped more disasterclass by missing sitters. Yet Ighalo had a better WC?? Na wa.
Bia Jide... I know everyone's stance on this thread concerning most of our players and I have long known about yours on Nacho. I know you don't really rate the lad. Only thing is that you don't take it as far as Komekn or especially Curtis here who made it his daily mission to even insult the lad and label him as one who will never make it.
So ehmmm.. I suggest you refresh your WC 2018 memories. Coz it looks really messed up for you to even mention the Etebo to Moses pass.
Also check this out:
Ighalo at WC 2018: 1 chance created (1 key pass).
Iheanacho at WC 2018: 5 chances created (5 key passes). 1 vs Argentina even though he had a poor game. 1 vs Croatia after replacing a poor Iggy and 3 against Iceland where he had a very decent game.
Iheanacho had one good game at the WC. One decent sub role vs Croatia and a poor game vs Argentina thanks to a knock.
Thanks for the correction, thought it was Etebo, and we don't have to view things from the same lens so I'll take Ighalo over Nacho at the world cup. Yes I don't rate a player who hasn't done much and rightly so until you start performing consistently, but I don't hate him or have anything against him so I'm not pushing agenda the way you are going about it
TheSuperNerd: That was after sending Ighalo to the bench for his disaster class against Croatia.
Nacho had a hand in one of our goals at the WC. Ighalo had a hand in nothing but a WC Miss that cost us qualification. Say the truth instead of Agending. People. Smh.
First goal? How? Etebo in midfield passed to Moses who crossed to Musa. If he ever did anything then it's insignificant, must be something anybody on the pitch can do. No shot on target 1 blocked 1 off target. Ighalo against Croatia had 1 on target. Both had an awful world cup, nacho 3/10 Ighalo 4/10
TheSuperNerd: False. He actually started the move for Nigeria's first goal vs Iceland and his shift overall at the WC was much better compared to Ighalo. That's the truth.
Curtisaxel10: Easy now bro, you're treading on holy soil. You're touching the untouchable. On this thread, you may freely criticize any SE player except Iheanacho our God . Unless you want to run into serious trouble both now and in the hereafter . So you better retract your rash statement, plead for forgiveness and swear to post nothing but praise and worship about the God.
PS; Our dear resident detective, food is ready o. Somebody has dared criticize the sacred cow!. It is time to swoop down on him like a hungry hawk. Or would you rather save that for the future? I know you have already saved this comment in your archive of "hate speeches" for future reference . More grease to your elbow, Mr. Iheanacho's chief policeman!
lol, it's just the truth he had a disappointing world cup. He was actually our starting striker against Argentina and Iceland but he barely touched the ball in the box
smartsmith0907: Oh really if he is that poor I wonder what ighalo will be
Sebi Ighalo still get chance wey he miss, Nacho just dey ghost mode through out. The only remarkable thing he did was begging Musa to give him open net to score
smartsmith0907: ,truly there was a point nacho wasn't doing too well...that's normal everyone world class player have had these moment but as fans we are meant to support these players not body shaming them or bully them,I remember a moniker calling him pig mouthed nacho I mean that bad and I have never seen nacho having a bad game as far SE is concerned.
BascoVanVeli: He has no reason to insult him like that. This is too much Look playing for a national team is a personal choice, u can't bash a guy for his decision.
Seydou never said that, I tried to Google it nothing like that came up
AndSunGorilla: Why can't we invite Fred Onyedinma and Uche Ikpeazu, these guys are bossing it at the bottom of the Championship. If not for Onyedinma's naivety, he should be playing for ManCity, he has so much quality but the coach of Wycombe doesn't know what he has on his hands. Blistering pace to burn!!! Forget that he's a fully committed bench warmer for the worst team in the Championship. Dont forget, the Championship is at par with La Liga, better than the portugese league, French league and Bundesliga.