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Baddestguyp:
I've actually edited what you quoted to add and rearrange stuff

@bolded---- Mr Nobody was threatened...
That is fact

Proof below:

Thats fine doesn't really change my whole point does it?

Baddestguyp:
I also don't remember too much of chapter 3 but I recall they had no problem tracking Wick

how did Mr Nobody track John Wick?
There seems to be no confirmed sequel...so what is the answer?

Are we back to Mr Nobody being a mere plot convenience?

Mr Nobody was threatened by the Marquis to kill John Wick....

Mr Nobody then competed with Killa and Caine in a Poker game for the right to kill John Wick. Next thing he's actively saving John Wick again.

Then he tries to kill John Wick again, but Wick defeats him but saves his dog...and Mr Nobody is grateful

Then Mr Nobody actively helps to increase John Wick's bounty...only to later choose to save Wick and not kill him because Wick earlier saved his dog


Mr Nobody is a prime example of a confused character that serves no purpose except as a plot convenience...
He motives are constantly changing to a point he's practically comical as a character

I believed I stated it clearly that he never said how he tracked John? If he did maybe I wasn't paying attention

Mr Nobody wasn't threatened by the Marquis to kill John. Marquis told him if he wanted to get paid, kill John. Mr Nobody didnt go in wanting to kill John. Rather since he is a good tracker he wanted to take advantage of the situation to get paid without actually having to kill John. Thats what he offered the Marquis. After the Marquis forced his hand, he almost killed John in Berlin but Cain stopped him. After the duel was agreed his services were no longer needed so he made sure his services would be needed and did what every right thinking business man will do at that point raise the price.

For the dog thing, its not something you will understand if you dont have a pet you really like. Heck it was the death of John's dog that started this whole madness. So with that as a precedence I see no reason why he wont let John live because of that one act of kindness. Also factoring the fact he could have killed Mr Nobody there too but instead saved his dog. And if you watched closely on the stairs Mr Nobody was still conflicted, it was his dog's face that pushed him over the edge to let John be.

Baddestguyp:
so Mr Nobody chose to let Wick walk free and ignored over $26m after spending months tracking Wick...because Wick saved his dog from the same situation he led his dog to?

Quite ironical since even after his dog was saved, he kept pushing the Marquis to increase the bounty...which put John Wick in even more trouble than before...

If you're so grateful to someone for saving your dog that you'd walk away from over $20m...
Then why do you keep pushing for his bounty to be increased so that even more bounty hunters will be after him?

Thank you for opening another can of worms

Where did you watch the bolded from

Baddestguyp:
how did they track him throughout Chapter 3?

And if they had Caine and Mr Nobody to keep tracking him what was the point of accepting the duel?

I can't speak to chapter 3 as I have forgotten what happened there. But in chapter 4 its very clear how they found him at Osaka. Cain didn't know about the bowery king. I am guessing base on how the movie went so no, Cain won't have been able to locate him after Osaka. Only Mr Nobody could track him somehow, how though he never said.

Mr Nobody didn't always know where John was. To claim otherwise is just a total disregard as to what you just watched. By extension same can be said of the Marquis. I don't like repeating myself. I have already established why the Marquis agreed to the duel. Go back and challenges the points there or lets move on.

ShaqFu:
You like to dribble alot whenever hard fact is shoved down your throat. How did Mr Nobody know about the rule? Wasn't it the same Mr Nobody that tried to kill John but stopped because John Wick saved his dog?

How did everyone know about the rule, didn't you watch were the head of the Ruska Roma (the woman) didn't even know about High Table duels until the priest explained it to her? And you're here saying everybody knows about the rule.

John Wick have heard of High Table duels but thought it a myth until Winston told him it's a fact. If Winston had not told him about it and how to go about it, would he have known what to do.

Stop this nonsense you always like to do in this thread. I'm getting convinced you just watch movies for nothing more than peesun peesun and to argue blindly.

Baddestguyp:
plot convenience?
They had no problem finding Wick in Chapter 3...
They had no problem tracking Wick to the Osaka Continental

They had thousands or even millions of assassins all over the world, on literally every street looking for John Wick...
John Wick made no effort to hide his face...

I don't think Mr Nobody was needed at all...his entire existence in the movie is pointless

They tracked him in Osaka after involving Caine. Who knew John and his friends. Thats not hard to figure out. If they didn't have a problem why will Mr Nobody offer such a large amount and why will the Marquis waste his time meeting him?

Baddestguyp:
I think I've established that they never had a problem finding John Wick's whereabouts...

Yet the Marquis offered Mr Nobody 23 million to find him after Osaka. Why do you think he rescinded his offer after the duel was agreed on only to offer it again when it seems his assassins would fail?

Baddestguyp:
I disagree...

John Wick was more likely to die than the Marquis...
He had thousands of assassins ready to kill Wick...
He kept increasing the bounty...
In fact Wick would have died if not for help from Caine and Mr Nobody...
Wick would have died on his way to the venue

Exactly thats the point of him accepting the duel. I mean its not rocket science. Accepting the duel gave the many assassins location and the exact time he will be there.

Increasing the chances of success as opposed to blindly looking for him. Or waiting for John to come for him. Take a breath and think it over. Its not hard.

Baddestguyp:
and Winston too knew it was a dûmb idea that would obviously fail and John Wick would die...that's why he told Wick about the duel

So yeah...it's more of a 100% chance that Wick would be killed without the duel...same way killing the Marquis normally would have changed nothing just like killing the Elder changed nothing



Now wait...what are you all jumping around?
First you guys said the Marquis had a choice, later you said he didn't have a choice...now again, he had a choice to accept or refuse the duel?


Which is it exactly?

You need to know how to differentiate who you are talking with.

And I am not talking about the outcome for John. I am talking about the reasoning of the Marquis. Its not that hard. He doesn't want to risk dieing. Because that's what would have 100% happened if he refused the duel. Accepting the duel was his way to control the outcome.

Baddestguyp:
if he refused the duel (assuming he could refuse)...he would certainly kill John Wick without the risk of Wick winning the duel and walking away a free man...

So why would he leave an option with 100% guaranteed success for one with a 50% guaranteed success?

That's because you are only looking at it from one way.

You seem to have forgotten what John told Winston before he brought up the Duel. He's plans were to kill the Marquis and every member of the high table. Dude will just go on picking them off one by one. In the end the 100% guaranteed success won't be anything more than - 1%. Accepting the duel was how the Marquis could have full control of the outcome. The alternative was open to wider array of uncertainty. And it was a sound plan. That did work in the end. If only he had shown more restraint. The high table would have been licking his ass now.

Sultan5:


Poster A: US won the war

Poster B: No body said US won the war

E be things

Some people just want to argue for the sake of it. Bringing points from thin air. I nor get time for pointless back and forth again.

blueAgent:
Meaning?

Read my replies to Tiopii, thats below my initial message to you. Or just scroll up and scan through. Life is not hard

Tiopii:
No one said the US did it alone. Russia has a May 9 victory day celebration, where they celebrate the victory over Germany and end to the WW2.

Is Russia wrong for celebrating May 9 as they didn't win the war alone?

Oversimplification but def. not falsea

Oga read the original post and don't stress me. Can't be clarifying something that has already been stated I have better things to do

blueAgent:
Then Disprove it.

I have read my subsequent replies

mysticwarrior:
She is not a man but a Nigerian American woman, her father is a Nigerian and her mother is an African American.

I could care less. Man, woman, trans, whats there again queer or whatever. The person should learn to read what is actually written and not what she/he/they/them/it think is written.

Tiopii:
Possibly oversimplified but not false

US alone didn't win WW2. It was a collective effort. The fall of Germany wasn't a US only affair even battles against Japan before the nukes wasn't only US forces. Heck if it was US alone vs the Axis, US won't be standing today.

So yea its an over simplification and very false. And a disrespect to the brave men and women from the Allied forces who aren't Americans who fought hard for this victory. To dismiss their struggle and sacrifice and just sit down in your house and be crediting only the US is just not something I can ever agree with.

1stGenAmerican:
Just false? You’re saying that Japan didn’t surrender on September 2, 1945? When a country surrenders, they are admitting and accepting defeat. Since you’re saying that moniker’s information is false, tell us which country surrendered, ending WWII.

When did I say Japan didn't surrender oga.

blueAgent:
True.
US won the 2nd World War.

This is an over simplification and just false tbh

Babaj145:
Honestly she's got one of the best tits in the industry, even that Nun attire couldn't hide dem beauties from shinning😌

Ah!

Bloomsbury:
My brother, you deserve an award for this your reply to I too know person above.
If I had full knowledge of how it works, will I come here to ask questions if it's a feasible idea? Like I said earlier, it's a crazy idea I wanted to test out the hypothesis.

I pity people that reason like him or her ( I don't even know the sex of the person even insulting me and Nigerians).

He purpose of education is to have a free mind to explore your interests and unfortunately this person is trying to inhibit the mins of those who wants to explore their interest. Like Paul Graham of YC once said" criticism is easy. You just have to do nothing, look for people trying to criticize".

Some people just lack common sense no matter how you admonish them nothing will enter. All na coconut nain them carry for head. Go to that thread I posted earlier and ask civilised human beings questions there, nor be the I too know individual you dey waste energy ontop. I mean everything nor be fight. Simple question answer move on noo, because I too know I must insult and belittle you. Just so I can feel better about myself.

airsaylongcome:
Stating a fact about Nigerians is an insult? We always look for the loopholes in a system and you consider that insulting Nigerians? And then looking for the loopholes without a sound knowledge of how the technology works?

Everyone looks for loop hole in a system not only Nigerians. Its a global thing. About having no sound knowledge did he ever claim to have sound knowledge on starlink? Like you are just running your mouth.

How can someone who is asking questions to know more about how something works to see if what he wants to do is feasible claiming to have sound knowledge like I don't get the madness. He literally came stated this is a crazy idea he thought of. Then went ahead to make inquiries about how possible it will be. Isn't that not how research works or do you just decide to be a dimwit or something.

If he had gone ahead and started it you will be the one to say why didn't he ask questions. He is asking questions now and you are hyperventilating. All these insult first and ask questions later reaction should stop. Someone is asking questions you are insulting him for not knowing what he is asking about. If he knows why ask?

Melanin07:
Come to think of it, the average IT person spend aleast 10K in data per month (which is horrible slow)

If the maximum number of connected devices can be 128.
Charging 128 people , 10K/mo is a lot of money to make as a side hustle.

But the thing is, is this feasible? 🤔

Go to this thread, and ask your questions there. There are a couple of starlink active users there so they can give you all the information you need.

https://www.nairaland.com/7588187/starlink-unboxing-speedtest-nigeria/14

opalu:
Your response doesn't make you sound intelligent. Why not give an objective response instead of insulting him and Nigeria?

Like? These people just hate themselves. This guy saw something and thought about how he can earn from it. Yes he is ignorant of the facts but that's why he created the thread to get opinions from people who are more knowledgeable. Instead of giving constructive criticism na insult just dey him head. Na these kind of colleagues you don't want to work with. If you bring a programming problem to them they will insult you but if a white person bring same problem they will calm down and explain. Self hatred.

Kennyking1234:
answer boss?

Send funds and get your answer

Kennyking1234:
Do you support Biafra?

Will you send me money either way?

SARSCoV2:
Russia knows the night of Ukraines allies before going to war. Stop giving excuses for the failed Russian military.

Oga I am not giving excuses I am tackling your shortsighted comparison. Wetin concern me concern give excuse for Putin. My point has always been comparing Afghanistan to Ukraine is pure ignorance of the facts.

And you have not said anything tangible to that effect in all your response. And I said as much in my prev reply. Like I said if you really want to use that comparison, that not only the US but NATO will be worse of in that argument. Because there's no way you compare the taliban with Ukraine military in terms of equipment, manpower and funding.

Smartguyboy:
You think if Russia invade Ukraine 🇺🇦 the way USA invaded Iraq 🇮🇶 killing thousands of children Ukraine will still be standing or fighting now?

Like its what I was saying. If Russia showed the ruthlessness of the US omo Zelensky and Ukraine for become history. Even in war the Russians have shown the highest level of restraint. I was surprised when I saw a parliamentary meeting in Ukraine being televised. If na US, them for done bomb everything and everyone with reckless abandon.

SARSCoV2:
So that’s the excuse for Russia’s show of shame?

Hello! It’s an art of war. Even during the Biafra war, Nigeria and Biafra got funding from supporting countries.

It’s not an excuse for failure! Every country definitely would have considered allies before going to war. That excuse won’t fly.

The US fought a geurilla warfare in Afghanistan. Their were no uniformed targets or location. And the US never shared boarder with Afghanistan, and had deployments from North America.

You have not said anything different. You hand picked facts and I showed you your facts are in complete. You are now even bringing Biafra. Pray tell how much funding did Biafra get? Its not about running your mouth upandan. NATO forces attacked Afghanistan not only US. But what did they achieve? And you want to talk about failure lmao.

Two scenarios aren't comparable, heck if you try to the US will look even weaker. Art of war do you even know what that means? Anyone who knows war knows Russia isn't fighting only Ukraine one. And Russia are not determine to exterminate Ukraine. Same cannot be said of the US and Afghanistan.

SARSCoV2:
Hello America deployed from North America to the Middle-East and did not lose the number of soldiers Russia lost in just one year.

Moreover, Afghanistan was a guerilla warfare. Their were no uniform targets like Ukraine.

Did Afghanistan have half of the advance weaponry Ukraine have? Did they have anywhere near the funding Ukraine has enjoyed. Its very easy to hand pick facts that favours your argument. Could their leaders walk in daylight without fears of being bombed to bits? Ukraine and Afghanistan aren't comparable. If Russia had the ruthlessness and reckless abandon the US displayed in Afghanistan. Zelensky wouldn't have been alive pass the first week of the conflict.

Jokerman:
If USA wanted to clear Afghanistan, it won't take 30 mins.

Ask Japan

Japan kor the only thing the allied forces could do against Japan was nuke. The Japanese never backed down even after the fall of Germany.

If na nuke be your argument. Then it won't take Russia 10mins to clear Ukraine. So goan sit down.

LordAdam16:
Queen Cleopatra was Greek. A bona fide Caucasian Greek to be exact.

The evidence is conclusive.

There has been nothing in mainstream Egyptology to remotely suggest that Cleopatra was black. Nothing new to that effect has emerged in recent years either.

It is premium BS to suggest that this is "touchy" or "hotly debated" or in anyway related to the wacko "Jesus was Black" theories.

In fact, Ptolemaic Egypt is described in history circles as a Greek civilization. For more in-depth information, look up the "Hellenistic Period".

The truly astonishing part is that this is being billed as a documentary. Not a fictional story loosely based on an historical account. An actual effing documentary. I find it insulting.

If a filmmaker tried to make a documentary about Lady Slessor and depicts her as a Black African woman, what would be your response? Would you describe it as "touchy" or "hotly debated"? What about Lady Khama?

If skin color is so important, there are other Egyptian Queens that fit the bill. Queen Nefertiti and Pharaoh Hatshepsut come to mind. Pharaoh Hatshepsut dressed like a man with fake beards according to some accounts. That could fit their trans ideology or whatever. But they had to go pick an unmistakable Greek icon to make a mockery of black excellence.

-Lord

Saying Cleopatra was black is like saying Jada Pinkett Smith is a loving wife