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Bkelly2:
It is unfortunate that majority of the people are seeing this whole Israeli war from one perspective. This a war between evil and good. The war is not on the people of Gaza but Hamas. What apartheid? If the people of Gaza behaves very well, you think there will be partitioning between Israel and Palestine? And it seems most people have not seen the gruesome and barbaric nature of what happened on Oct 7 in Israel. In Gaza, Israel supplies them with electricity, Israel gives them opportunity to come work in their farms and homes, Israel gives their children proper medical care. There are some foundations in Israel who practically are responsible in taking care of the most vulnerable in Gaza. So where is the apartheid. The problem is the Hamas and their extreme fundamental values. Israel never started this war. Hamas did and I support what Israel is doing to bring back those hostages and clean out or reduce to it's minimum Hamas. Israel has been telling the people of Gaza to leave the war zone and move to the south but Hamas won't let them. Hamas uses her citizens as human shield so to whip up global sentiment. And they in turn hide to do the worst of the worst barbaric killings. Hamas brought this upon her people. In war, there are usually collateral damages which is very unfortunate. Now for South Africa calling out their diplomat if this is true does not in anyway affect Israel so long US is behind Israel. Make una go watch wetin happen for October 7...una go understand why Israel dey vex.

With your first sentence I was expecting a good take but all I read after shows how you should take the advice of your first statement and widen your views from only the Isreali perspective.

Its just like saying that slaves should be happy because their masters give them food, shelter and health care. SMH

DaChosenOne:
Are you a muslim? Imagine believing that I care about the opinion of a muslim aboki. Israel will continue to win against the Arab terrorists. Igbos and other Africans stand with Israel over Arab terrorists. Abokis will stay mad. The important countries with stand will Israel. Coastal West Africans need to treat the Sahelian terrorists like Israel does Palestinians.

This is childish and not how to learn. You guys need to grow up I swear. Someone made a point and your response is to dismiss it not on its merit but base on religious madness.

Maybe an Ethiopian Jew own account will convince you. Google is free use it and learn. You are better than this.

https://www.brandeis.edu/jewish-experience/israel-middle-east/2023/january/ethiopia-israel-mola.html

Ewedegubbler:
Apart from Nelson Mandela. There hasn’t been any sensible soul that has come out from that family afterwards.
Most are either drunkards, drug addicts or impotent womanisers. So u shouldn’t expect much from them

Nelson Mandela stood with Palestine. So what's your point?

Officialenny1:
But Palestinians can orchestrate evil plans and kill thousands of Israeli then get away with it ?

Israel has been doing this for years and currently and they have gotten away with it. There are two sides to every story. SA, Nelson Mandela and so many others standing with Palestine can't all be mad people. Read about the number of Palestinians killed only this year before this war started. And they get away with it.

Many here have reduced fellow humans to terrorists because of the actions of a few. Those few by the way exist today because of Isreali aggression over the years. You can also read up on the atrocities many freedom fighting groups through out history committed for freedom. From Irish, to ANC in south Africa and many more. They weren't called terrorists because they weren't Arabs.

The monsters in Hamas didn't come from no where they were created by the actions of Israel over the years and even now. Imagine you and your family just trying to live a good life. You have never held a gun in your life but Isreal bombs your home killing your entire family. Won't it be easier for you to become a monster and fight them?

emmydee:
I am a private individual but the moment I heard of the Hamas attack on Israel, I felt bad. Not because Israel suffered some losses but because I knew how Israel will respond. Isreali policies on Palestinians have been brutal especially in this present day. They are quite inhumane but yet, attacking or staging a war against Israel was not the best option. Continued negotiations should have been better. Palestine cannot stand a physical war with Israel. So that is my point and I believe if Palestine sustain negotiations especially on the access to food, drugs, and household needs, the world would someday convince Israel to submission. I am not in anyway in support of war. Do not misunderstand me Abeg oo.

How do you negotiate with your oppressors that keep taking away your liberties. I remember what Obama said in his book that there won't be a 2 state solution or any other solution because both sides aren't on equal footing. A solution would mean both sides making concessions. What reason does Israel have to make concessions?

Look at the west bank Israel has continued to encroach and eat away at the small lands the Palestinians are managing, doing so with violence. Feeding this monsters in Palestine that they are so happy to label terrorists. If the Palestinians wait like you say by the time international community get its act together there won't be anything for them to negotiate for.

US is the problem, Trump and the republicans will never cave for the Palestinians only the Democrats can even begin to help but as you can see with Biden nothing comot. Obama tried to find a lasting solution but faced resistance everywhere. So say people like Ben Shapiro if you know him called Obama names.

US is the problem, with US there the international community is toothless. Hopefully if Isreal don't kill everyone in Gaza we will be back here again years from now with the Palestinians with less land and Isreal bombing whats left to bits. With part of the world condemning and holding protest again and with the other half edging Israel on to complete their ethnic cleansing of the 'terrorists'.

emmydee:
Hamas was totally wrong in choosing to attack Israel. Hamas should have continued with the negotiation option rather than brutally attacking Israel. What were they thinking? Now some people are condemning Israel’s impunity. This is war. When you are brutally attacked by an enemy, you are expected to deploy all in your arsenal to defend yourself and to ensure the enemy does not attack you again. That is exactly what Israel is doing. Do not blame them, blame Hamas!

When Palestine were brutally attacked throughout this year you said nothing? When Palestine attack you start to talk tough. But its fine we all enjoy the blood of children because we support Israel. I'd say God will judge but its the same God who ordered the ethnic cleansing of people by Saul in the Bible.

I am not a creator but even I know the importance of each human life. The day you reduce humans to nothing just because of one thing or other say religion, race, or whatever you can easily kill and treat them like slaves. I used to wonder how the world could excuse slavery for so long but when I see how you guys reduce yourselves to nothing base on religious beliefs I understand.

When you kill, abuse and oppress people for so long obviously you will create monsters. Its the way it works acting surprised that these monsters are causing destruction in response is just you shelving responsibility. Yes Hamas made a mistake but Hamas is a small faction of Palestine people less than 5% yet you kill and maine the other 95%. Now if those who survive this great loss join Hamas and commit another gruesome attack again everyone will be shocked and start saying Isreal are the victims. But they have constantly create an environment that fosters such hatred and the creation of these monsters.

Someone gave a good example of boko haram going to the US and bombing it or committed atrocious acts then the US instead of finding them they start bombing all of Nigeria with impunity saying they want to kill boko haram.

That one self is not a perfect example but it does hold some water a more perfect example would be in the colonial times when we were colonised and we have a small rebel gtoup fighting the British. Instead of the British to deal with the rebels they begin to kill every Nigerian in sight. How will this not create more rebels and not repeat the same circle of violence?

But again its fine we are happy when people die so I am not surprised

JustPowerApps:
Sorry ehn 😂😂😂

Pele

JustPowerApps:
Be like e don dey pain you Sorry chief, I am only expressing my opinion, I didn't mean to make you feel bad

Its your shitty brain nain dey pain me. How can someone be this dumb haba. People who relate with you daily dey try abeg. Because omo

JustPowerApps:
Let me educate you a bit before you leave this thread. First, don't trust anyone. How certain are you that those guys are what you believe they are? Do you see them 24/7 and engage in their day-to-day activities with them?

Second, don't take the fall for anyone. Protesting for a fellow classmate in the face of a rifle after what happened in EndSars is blatant stupidity. They are fellow students like you, and their protection in Ife is under the guardianship of the school management, not you.

I am still surprised that any reasonable individual would put their chest in front of a gun after what happened in EndSars. Do you guys learn from history at all? Haba!

What if something unexpected happened that day? Is that how you want to show your gratitude to your guardians for sending you to school?

Have some empathy for the older folks at home and gain some wisdom.

See who dey educate, someone that can't use his head well to understand simple English. What a joke.

Please and please try upgrade yourself this is just so shameful haba. How can someone be this slow? When they say people dey carry empty skull dey waka I nor 1 believe but I swear you have made me a believer

JustPowerApps:
Rest bruh, you're obviously deluded. Anyway incase of another time, don't try struggle with verified security outfits. Resisting arrest is a crime on its own.

Lol shows how miserable your level of comprehension is

@asanausana91 come see human been abeg. Do well to educate him on your take on this. But I'd say don't bother self because he is too slow can't comprehend simple English.

JustPowerApps:
Don't mind the mugu, nah so dem dey do aluta for their village, fighting police with confidence🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.

Chai this is just very shameful. I have never seen this level of cluelessness on display omo!

Your just showing your low level IQ. If you have any atom of comprehension skills you will realise the guy you quoted was the one advocating for violence by students on police and other security agencies. I essentially said he should put up or shut up. He wants students to attack security agents he should lead by example and bring video evidence.

How did you development your brain self. Because omo talking with you I feel so ashamed how can someone reason like this omo. Like this is the 21st century with so much access to educative materials and you dey reason like cave man. Chai

JustPowerApps:
The alumni making waves in the Nigerian Tech Environment were products of the then OAU, not the new urchins' experiments. Imagine students marching into a law enforcement office without any legal permit. I am appalled that this is coming from students, anyway. Typical Agberoism

Is it that you find it hard to comprehend or maybe I am just wasting my time because I am tired of repeating myself. I literally stated the and show you a link of the success of one of the current students in tech and you dey talk alumni. I mean wetin be this?

I can go on list the achievements or many other current OAU students in tech including those kidnapped but whats the point its like talking to a brick wall. Nothing enters.

Peaceful protect na Agberoism, my God your a joke. Expressing fundamental human rights is Agberoism . Ha people dey this country I swear.

Omo I can't waste my breath again I have better things to do. Enjoy

JustPowerApps:
What OAU is fast becoming these days is unbelievable, I presume you are a student of the institution, I can see it from the way you express yourself. What sort of school raises touts anyway?

What is unbelievable there oga talking again with no facts. What touts has oau raised? Defend your slander. You will just open mouth waaa dey talk with no evidence. Its sad to see.

Just do small research on the school with the highest tech products in the country. One of the students kidnapped by efcc got an award 3 days prior for his 3d art work. And yet he is a tout according to you SMH. You guys are the problem of this country I swear.

Follow this link https://twitter.com/StearsInsights/status/1650847475836637186?t=x0d8-UMZ19knI7gIt4oLwg&s=19

https://twitter.com/fordavid22/status/1719755438873280512?t=7EmAhBbpD1FnwbemPrDBQA&s=19

I guess the 2 doctors who just signed out are touts too. The 4 other medical students were tout as well. Sometimes eh I wonder how you guys brain works it baffles me not gonna lie. Maybe its because I talk more with educated people on a daily basis so I have come to assume everyone will reason with such high predegree but reality as always is disappointing.

membranus:
I don't have the patience to read through your long turenchi, but anyway thanks for your insults. But I repeat, stop supporting criminality in our youths.

The gains of criminality only lasts for a short time, ask Escobar. We parents sent them to go and study in their schools, and graduate to bring positive change to the society. And not to be extorting innocent foreigners and living like celebrities in their campuses.

Well when you lack comprehension skills, not in the least surprised! Your reply is well inline with my profiling of you. Easily proving my point . Reminds me of the saying "He who knows not and doesn't know is a fool"

Enjoy!

Greattha:
You don't know these twats...

Look at the imp saying streets are raided worldwide...

Try it abroad and they'll sue your pants off you.

That's why it's called "actionable intelligence "...before you act, there's absolutely no doubt...not this crass trial and error efcc does everytime...it's lazy policing.

Sure there are bad eggs among them but the purpose of intelligence gathering is to fish out those ones and arrest them. Not arresting everyone in the building then sorting.

But leave the imbeciles...when him or his close loved one falls victim then you'll see him crying for justice.

They have no emotional intelligence, and no understanding of the right way to do things. No body is saying don't raid. But do it legally. And ensure its the right people you are raiding. How can you break into students rooms at 2am with no search or arrest warrant essentially taking away their fundamental human rights.

First get a search warrant from the court. Obviously no court in their right senses will give you search warrant for all the rooms in a hostel. They will ask you questions and limit the warrants to certain rooms which your so called intelligence can cover.

Obviously EFCC can't answer these questions so they bypass the legal way of doing things and went for the easy and criminal way. If they had a court order in form of search warrant it would have given them some cover. Because it will then be the judge that will face the majority of the heat when it comes. But no we are Nigerians we must do things illegally. Even fighting crime must be done illegally.

And since we are all use to illegalities we support it when security organisations do it, when politicians do it, when rich and influencial Nigerians do it. But when helpless Nigerians do illegality we suddenly activate our brain or when it happens to us or someone we know.

JustPowerApps:
They don release them already, my bad I judge too soon

And that's the problem you making judgement without all the facts. Someone with the facts is trying to even enlighten you and you claim its supporting criminality. Well just pray it doesn't happen to you and any of your family members because you self go explain tire.

With no student union, school or Governor to fight for you, who knows if or when you will be released.

membranus:
If you are supporting criminality in youths in the guise of studentship, then we don't need you to "fight for this country".

We only need honest and upright citizens to fight for this country, the rest should hide their faces.

No wonder you talk the way you do. You lack comprehension. My post was referring to the innocent students. But all your head could put together is I am supporting criminality. No single comprehension skills,

When I mentioned these words "innocent", "released" I guess they went over your tiny brain. If they had a case to answer why release them? Again I say you deserve anything your leaders do to you. Because you cant even bring your head to comprehend that they assaulted and arrested 58 innocent students, medical students inclusive, hardworking students excelling in various tech fields. even 2 doctors who just signed out. Only to release them later and you now want these doctors to stay in this country or even the medical students. One of the student in engineering won an award for his 3d art work 3 days prior. These are students of sound minds trying to make a way for themselves and you support how they were treated just because they were released. My initial statements still stands people like you are the problem of this country

And yes these students will hide their face and take their talents else where. Where they will be appreciated and respected while you guys will still be here struggling because you succeeded in chasing people who would have helped the country one way or the other if they stay. When you cannot condemn what is wrong you lose good people. And it will continue because of people like YOU. So enjoy!

SoNature:
There's nothing wrong with that.

They found out the students were clean and released them

Security operatives raid streets and areas everywhere in the world.

So the trauma and damages inflicted on the innocent students you are fine with it? Its people like you that made me decide never to fight for this country. I mean How will someone read this and say there's nothing wrong with it. You destroyed these students rooms, assaulted them point guns to their heads. Kidnapped them and their belongings took them to another state question and release them without those belongings for them to trek back if not for the student union who were there. And in your head there is nothing wrong with it. You really deserve your leaders I swear

JustPowerApps:
Say whatever you like, all I know is, fraud is crime, and crime is bad.

So is breaking and entering and kidnapping innocent students both aren't mutually exclusive its that simple. If they were all criminals y did they release over 90% of them in less than 24 hours.

When you see bad thing condemn am

JustPowerApps:
The guys arrested are not the only rich guys in that area, get your facts right before you defend crime

Oga is English hard for you or you don't have comprehension skills? Please do well and give someone who do to explain what I wrote. Because this your reply is not in line with what I wrote.

See him mouth like defend crime SMH

asanausana91:
I wish you know who you are talking with. Police? Hahahaaaa!! Pls don't make me laugh.

Please do and send video evidence

asanausana91:
fear of the unknown kill 1000 times before you die.
70 students follow efcc enter bus like malu.
What a shame to those students, they are not worthy to be called students. 70!

Right they shouldn't be called students because of you. If that's why I am very fine with that because you are of no significance. When you see police ba do well to fight them make sure fear of unknown nor catch you take pictures of your victory then come back to quote me with evidence then you will have some significance.

Till then rabbling, after all everyone na strong man online.

Xwizard:
Now let’s be realistic here, can EFCC officials really apprehend 70 Nigerian able students without a riot all of you are mad……. 70 of you

Oga go here and find reality https://web.facebook.com/officialefcc

UptownVibes:
Anybody who comes breaking your door at 2am without a search warrant or proper identification is a criminal.And should be treated as such.. If those students had raised alarm that criminals wearing efcc vest are in the hood,other students would have joined,to chase those criminals away. Yes,some students are from rich homes,but there are still some who are from poor homes,driving Amg in school..

You just dey talk because nothing like this has happened to you before. You think alarm wasn't raised? You think the police weren't called? Other students would join what? If na you, you go commot your room? These didn't come with pistol or local guns they came fully armored and heavily armed again and in numbers what do you want students to do at 2am? We are not talking about militants here or armed insurgence, These are students ffs come out and do what? I have it on good authority that two people there wont have been taken but why were they taken because they came out. Instead of just chilling in their room

UptownVibes:
Probably to ask them,how they got their cars,while in school.. 70boys. How many the thieves called efcc be,and they matched you guys,una follow? Anyways,maybe the officials were more than 70

You do know not everyone is poor in this country. I have a friend who was taken his is from a rich family driving 1 of his dad's car. And what do you want students to do against armed EFCC? Fight them and be shot and labeled whatever they want to label you? This is just injustice at 2am with no search or arrest warrant.

KseniKru:
I'm personally now replaying DinoCrisis 2 , probably the hundredth time it passes, as sat down in the new update Cyberpunk2077. Sometimes dabble in online slots NineCasino https://ninecasinobonus.com/, but so far I have not won anything . I plan to play soon in Dune 2000 on the PC, maybe who remembers it, I want to replay the company for the Harkonnens .

Ha Dino Crisis 2 brings back fun memories! Those where simpler times

sagitariusbaby:
It's a shame to think that you support the Arabs to fully take over Jewish homeland because of religion. I'm happy you know that that is never going to work. The Jews are fully back home this time around and nothing can stop them from claiming their ancestral given land. Let them face each other and stop crying, the bigger power will eventually usurp all the available lands are dominate it

Are you high or something? because I don't get your confusion I literally said put all religious bias aside and answer a simple scenario I painted for you. how is that me supporting Arabs? Or do you just want to be disingenuous just for the sake of it? This is not how to have a discussion. pulling conclusions out of nowhere. My stance has always been lets have a discussion by putting away all religious bias. So I don't know where you got your conclusions from. And I am a Christain by the way

I have never said Arabs should fully take over anything. Go through my messages to you and quote where I said this, please. See why I ask if you are high or something. Like I am talking about "A" you start claiming out of nowhere putting words in my mouth that I said "B". Haba na nor be so. Simple question I ask, you refuse to answer na to put words for my mouth remain? I am disappointed not gonna lie. Thought I was having a conversation with someone knowledgable

sagitariusbaby:
You still haven't answered my question, where is Jewish homeland? There is where it is written that the Jews completely left Palestine, they had remnant who stayed and watched over their ancestral land. A sole Jewish state is vital and important like the Arabs have theirs in numbers.

Taking people's home and claiming their most religious sacred temple as Islam's second most important site is a call to anarchy that is now in full display.

If you say the Arabs took over the land through war and what not, the Jews are back to fight and claim as much of the land as possible. It is recognised in international law, lands cab be taken as a spoil of war. Russia did in Ukraine just recently when they took Cremea after waring. The Muslim world is just being greedy to say the least by coveting such tiny land that know belongs to their distant cousins.

If the Palestinians want it back then they should fight for it and as the fight owners are now doing. There is no point being emotional about this. Wars over lands will continue all over the world and innocent human casualty must be recorded. Peace

love how you ignored my very straightforward question and tagged it emotional . Jewish have no homeland that's the point. they lost it. At least we agree Israel are fighting Palestine for their land that's common ground at least

Realguyman1:
Oga I nor be English teacher and I nor beg u to teach me English. Na u cone know weda over sabi dey do u or not. since u already got my point, is either u give ur own opinion or fvck off. I nor beg u make u teach me English.

Well, that's what we are communicating in and if you can't understand "scroll up I have answered your questions in my reply to someone else" who actually understands English, who replied and made a good points in response and that I didn't want to repeat myself. How can you understand anything else I say? So why even bother? Then you con off light with you didn't wrote na why I con dey laugh you. Obviously you didn't scroll up at all to read what I wrote but its fine we are all lazy at times even me self I am too lazy to type all that again so lets agree to disagree make I continue my conversation with person who fully get the language I am typing in. Take care

KennethEnyi:
Yes na
Any Muslim is subhuman as far as wear are concern

That says a lot about who you are. But I don't blame you though, it does take a lot to see people as people so I understand. It's why slavery happened in the first place so you are not the first to reduce people to subhuman and sadly you won't be the last. It is what it is I guess

sagitariusbaby:
The Arabs own 98 percent of the lands in the Middle East, We all know the Jews are a strong member of the semitic group who we all know originated from the Middle East. Now where is Jewish homeland if you keep calling them out for retaking their original homeland? Where in the Middle East is their original homeland? The Arabs were successful in eliminating almost all the smaller nations of the old Middle East but they couldn't successfully eliminate or assimilate the Jews into them, now they are back fighting for their home land you calling them settlers.

The Jews are about the most documented people on earth, they are minorities scattered across different territories, but we all know every people or race have an homeland, where is the Jewish homeland. Remove Christianity from this topic and let's be factual. You don't convert my land no matter how long and expect my children not to come back for it.

So we want to go to who own the land beautiful? Now like you said Israel as it seize to exist a long time ago and were pushed out of the land they conquered very important. Not their homeland but a land they conquered. Now others came and conquered it and eventually Palestine settled there. Made it their home. Several generations of these people lived and tolled this land. Then all of a sudden Israel came back after years with the help of the British I might add who even made it possible. To push these people who all they have ever known is this land as their home. Now on what grounds? On the grounds you conquered it thousands of years ago? Well you lost it and other people took it and made it their home just like you took it and made it yours. Why must it now be yours when neither Palestine nor Israel are the actual owners?

You see the problem. We all know through Nigeria history than many of our tribes travelled and settled where there are now. What happens if people who conquered the land long before our tribes got to our various lands came back. Lets use your tribe for example whatever it is I don't need to know but say your tribe is in this scenario. What do you do? Do you sit down and take it?

For a UN secretary-general to say the attack on Oct 7 didn't happen in a vacuum it says a lot. There isn't a clear cut good or bad guy in this conflict. To say otherwise is to be biased and that's the truth. Look at the scenario I painted on your tribe look at it objectively and remove all bias. What will you do? Will you support your people being forced to leave the only home they have ever known? Or will you agree to live together in the same land like some have suggested or will you agree to divide it into two. And note these people are stronger than you. They have stronger allies, so fighting them in an open war is of no use. Keep in mind these people are also keeping you prisoner. Because the way I have put it now if a Palestine sees this they may come for my head. And they slowly keep taking away your lands your liberties. What do you do? I really want to know.

Remove religious bias, and remove your hatred for Muslims/Arabs if you harbor such at all. I have tried to bring it close to home so you to relate with it more easily. What do you do

hotwax:
In this current age, only Muslims are fixated on Jews.

Like I wrote,many have done it in the past. Assyrian, Romans, Babylonians, Persians.

But reading is your problem. Don't just be mentally lazy. It won't harm you to actually take a book and read.

Nazi fight is more sociopolical competion...Islam own is an ideology..it's an instruction in the quran for them to eliminate Jews...

See I won't dignify a mentally laid back person like you with response. Hate is difference from competition.

Nazi just want to eliminate Jewish power

In the modern age, Nazism is still prevalent a little research will help you with this. And that's my entire point you are too narrow minded to even entertain the possibility of there being pple outside Muslims. Widen your mind dude limiting your horizons only limits you