Michellekabod1:

Gone through the post the umpteenth time and yet to discover where Christianity or prayer was insulted,when you find one please do alert me...
It could be my eyes are failing me...

Hahn, lordreed, hardmirror,martinez39,jesusjnr, CAPSLOCKED,happypagan,jesusjnr

I absolutely agree with you Mich!

For instead I see a case where religion is being given its due respects, which further buttresses my position that religion is the air or breath that Nairaland atheism survives on.

For if not for religion, wetin nairaland atheists go get to talk about?

For the worst thing one can do to them would be to isolate them from the religion section and leave them all by themselves, ol boy, na boredom to hell things, for that day na hin a lot of atheists go by force convert to Christ for anything wey go make dem no dey alone by themselves, na tufia kwa, meaning God forbid!

For even the atheists prayer, was borrowed from a religious book, so what else would atheist have to talk about if not something that pertains to religion?

So it should not be seen as an insult when your junior admits that you pass am, by copy copy things, for that one na sign say them dey pay you respect say "you na our senior bros", "bros we dey hail oh", "master we dey for back dey follow small, small oh".

But of course as the saying goes, "if e no be panadol, e no fit be like panadol!"

IAmSabrina:

Your argument doesn't compute. Perhaps an illustration will suffice...

IAmSabrina: "Are you allergic to peanuts?"
jjresurrected: "No, I'm not allergic to anything."
IAmSabrina: "Are you allergic to shellfish?"
jjresurrected: "No, I'm not allergic to anything."

Clearly, not having any allergies is a kind of allergy, huh jj?

Atheism has no tenets, no dogma, no rituals, no teachings, nothing to be taken on faith. It's a single position on a single claim.

Yeah! It is your illustration that does!

For instead of digging you out of the hole that of your unwarranted position has gotten you, it has only pushed you much further inside, that for you to come out of it would now require a more complex rescue mission.

As it has only further exposed your futile attempts to restrict the definition of belief to religion or belief in God or any other gods.

And to illustrate my point I gonna be using your own illustration if you permit.

Now you spoke about not being allergic to anything, but only gave instances of food allergies.

So does it mean that one not having any food allergy is a proof that one is not allergic to anything?

If anything, that's only trying to box the definition of allergies into the definition of food allergies, which would not be possible because the definition of allergies span beyond the limits of the definition of food allergies.

For while food allergy is a type of allergy, there are other types of allergies, such as drug allergy, skin allergy, respiratory allergy, insect-sting allergy etc.

Therefore for one not to be allergic to anything, one has to cover the whole span of allergies not to be allergic to any thing, and not just that of which was food related.

So that's my point with respect to the definition of belief, for trying to restrict it's definition to religion or belief in God, or any gods is tantamount to putting it into the box of religion.

Because belief in the sense of religion is just an aspect of all beliefs, so that one does not believe in God, or any other gods, or does not believe in the existence of God, or any other gods, does not mean that one does not believe in anything.

For it must have to do with all forms or definitions of beliefs before one would be said not to believe in anything, or have any beliefs at all.

But that's not atheism, for atheism is just the lack of belief in God or His existence, or any other gods or their existence, which itself ironically is already a belief.

And moreover even in the sense of religion, it may not even be restricted to the belief in God or any other gods alone, for you must have heard of football being a religion, yes, there's an extent to which belief in something else that is not God or gods would get to, that it would also be deemed a religion.

And so it's understandable the concern of that guy who wasn't comfortable with the atheists prayer to the brain, despite that most atheists here are saying amen to it, for it was bordering on religion.

And also the extent to which atheists believe in science could also pass as it being a religion to the atheists.

Sorry guys. Antispam bot hates this message so much it doesn't want to even smell, needless say I, see it.

For it's so far become a mission impossible for me to post this topic since on 26th of last month, but nothing spoil.

Moving unto other things.

p.s. Yes I just got an idea and would effect it tomorrow. Thanks.

IAmSabrina:

Just in case you're not joking...... it's not as deep as you're taking it


Sorry to bust your bubbles but atheism IS THE lack of belief in any god.

This phrase, "lack of belief in any god", is the only phrase that applies to all atheists.

Other phrases, such as: "rejects the existence of God or the gods", "claim that there is no afterlife", and "claim that the material universe is all that is real" simply do not describe all atheists.

Hence atheism is not a belief, it is a lack of a belief.

Is atheism not a belief that God does not exist?

It must not be in the respect of God for it to be a belief, that's my point sabrina.

For instance you believe in your brain up to the extent that you pray to it Lol!

You actually believe in something sis, even though it may be a lack of belief in God, for a belief is a belief!

Tover:
For weeks now, I hve been having this same dream almost 4 to 5 days in a week.. What does it mean to be dreaming about my old secondary sch.... I am a university graduate


Thanks in advance

Maybe there's not much in it, since you've been having it on a regular.

It's definitely not a sign of stagnation as some here have called it, for as you said you are a university graduate, so how can you dreaming of your old secondary school be a sign of redundancy when you've already passed that level?

It's possible that you have a lot of fun memories during your secondary school days that you recall a lot even when not in the subconscious world, so dreams are often a reflection of what dominates your consciousness.

For I could remember how many times when I used to be a kid, when I would keep dreaming about being very rich, or having a bicycle etc., for that was what dominated my conscious thoughts, becoming rich and having a bicycle etc., so I believe it rubbed off in my dreams.

But when those thoughts were replaced by some other things, i don't think I have ever had one single dream of being rich or having a bicycle etc., as it often was back in the day.

So I don't think you should attach much to that, but where you presently stand in the sight of God.

OpenYourEyes1:
Watch a confused GOD hater Richard Dawkins speak from both sides of his mouth on the issue of GOD and evolution

Short clips from the interview:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pi_CgnZDPQ

Full interview:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5XSBQHz7B8




A transcribed part of the exchanges between the TV presenter (Ben Sten) and Richard Dawkins


Ben Stein: What do you think is the possibility that Intelligent Design might turn out to be the answer to some issues in genetics or in Darwinian evolution?

Prof Dawkins: Well it could come about in the following way. It could be that, eh, at some earlier time somewhere in the universe a civilization evolved by probably some kind of Darwinian means to a very, very, high level of technology and designed a form of life that they seeded onto perhaps this planet. Ehm, now, that is a possibility and an intriguing possibility and I suppose it’s possible that you might find evidence for that if you look at the details, of biochemistry, molecular biology, you might find a signature of some sort of designer .

It's well obvious that the brain behind Creation would leave some kind of finger print in His creation to point it back in the direction of it's Creator.

So it might only require for His creation to look deeper and further, and it would eventually find Him.

No surprises there!

It now all about the money, and no mighty works!

When God first design clothes for man and woman in the aftermath of sin in the beginning, did He make trousers for man and skirts for the woman?

It really ridiculous how people tend to advance personal opinions in the name of God, I mean why not just say that this is my own opinion?

Both John the baptist and Jesus who were both clothed by God didn't put on trousers despite being men, so were they an abomination to the God that clothed them so?

God doesn't judge on the outward appearance, but on the heart, but it's only men that do, for that was the only reason God clothed man and woman in the beginning.

For if it were up to God alone, both man and woman would be naked as He intended for them to be when He first made them, which would have been the case had they not sinned and consequently lost their good judgment of their unclothedness.

Satan66:

Atheism isn't a belief
It's a LACK of belief in any deity

Just like religion ain't a belief, because it's a LACK of belief in the belief that there's no deity, Lol!

A lack of belief is also a belief!

Satan66:

Since when does union refer to religious beliefs?
Union is simply another meaning for a group people.
Learn something before spewing out rubbish

Yeah! Not religious beliefs, but a belief none the less!

bobowaja:
The resident clown

that makes you cry as a baby and have panic attacks Lol!

It's good to see you emerging from hardmirror's shadows though I must say, I mean what were you so scared of, I don't bite!

As you could see even if I had every other person against me, I have the belief or confidence to take them on as you may have already noticed.

So I would like you become that strong even in your atheistic beliefs, that it don't matter what any other person thinks or says, or if any man to be with you or against you, because your belief is stronger than whatsoever all of them combined could do to shake it or make it fall.

That's extent of resolve in one's belief is one of the major factors that make others to eventually begin to believe in one's belief, despite the initial mockery and opposition.

For they would begin to be like, there must be something to this person's belief that makes him/her to be so resolute in it, and so they'll want to give it a try.

And hence you'll win a soul to your belief, and then two, and that's the way it would be until your sole belief turns into a movement.

For that was how Jesus started, Mohammed same, etc and those two beliefs have the most following of any other beliefs.

So it begins with one belief.

bobowaja:

I will rather leave you to the bots. Even your fellow Christians hv left you to your condition.

Guy seek help asap

It obvious why you'd rather have a uneven playing field, because these are results that are being churned out in spite of that, so how much more when it becomes a level playing field?

Should I call hard mirror for you so you can cry on his shoulder, "oh please hard mirror this guy is too strong for us please come and help us...."

Now it seun you are begging, "oh please seun please don't listen to him oh..." beggy, beggy!

Yeah you are used to having people as the owner of Nairaland using his influence and leverage to back you up, well let me see how that matches up with someone who has the backing of God you say doesn't exist, if you win even here in the religious section of nairaland even with all of seun might, then I'd agree with you that God doesn't exist as you claim, deal?

Up till now, no explanation?

Ok let get ready to take it to the next level.

bobowaja:
I can see seun peeping. Sir ur attention is not needed here. He is a resident clown which all of us hv decided to share a space with.

Yeah when a Satan zombie calls someone a clown, that person must be something special indeed, and hence ought to be taken very seriously.

Wow! See fear, fear!

Showing signs of desperation not to have your worst nightmare back to give you more agony and trauma.

But well let's see what happens at the expiration of my ban, and then we'd see if you'd get your wish.

Mind you this is jesusjnrresurrected, so if jesusjnr dies, jesusjnr multiplies, kapish!

ThothHermes:
Okay.

By the way do you attend chosen

You sound like them.

What I would say is that you are definitely not among the "few are chosen", but the "many are called".

Because if you are not yet able to perceive the truth that the anti spam bot is just being used as a guise to advance the agenda of vested interests in Nairaland, then you are definitely not among the "few are chosen".

And when I speak of "few are chosen" I certainly ain't speaking of a denomination.

ThothHermes:


You don't know what a bot is. Google it.
You be mumu. (Couldn't resist)

Call me whatever you wish to, but it is definitely a googolplex times better than whatever you are.

ThothHermes:
You were banned by the spam bot.

Stop seeing demons everywhere.

Argggghhhhh... Religious people.
.Na so one woman dey roll for ground this morning say dem call her witch.

Yeah spam bot that didn't know my address until moments after I had a conversation with seun, you guys are really showing the devastating effect Satan zombism can have on human beings.

Spam bot kor, anti spam bot ni

sukerefakere:
Have a nice day ahead... thanks

You too dear, thank you very much, and God be with you.

sukerefakere:
it's actually a big joke of a club That statement gave you up... I also follow a very useless Club called Acmilan

So we kind of have some big joke club in common, only that my big joke club is possibly in better shape than yours, as we speak.

Though obviously there's no competition with respect to who is the big joke historically, for arsenal is the biggest joke of all time, never even won a single champions league trophy.

But it seems things are looking up for both clubs that have the letter A in common, as Emery is doing better than previously at arsenal, while gattuso is actually workings wonders as we speak at acmilan.

So maybe we got a lot of connection there.

sukerefakere:
I know it's Arsenal..

Is it the Spirit of God that revealed it to you, or another?

Because you are actually spot on!

And you deserve a round of applause, but sorry no Nairaland emoji for that.

So tell me how you came to that knowledge, eh?

sukerefakere:

No not chelsea oh!

I beg I know wan their violent nature wey dem inherit from Morinho!

sukerefakere:
Which club do you support?

It's actually a big joke of a club, so I'd leave you to take a guess.

sukerefakere:
The stage is yours....so own it!!

It seems you should have waited till you finished laughing at that joke, before commenting because your comment is actually very funny joke.

For something that is already mine, I would still have to own it, Lol!

Maybe if I own it, it would cease being mine Lol!

sukerefakere:
you need a stage name... You are a comedian

Really? Jesusjnr doesn't even make you laugh enough that you still need another one?

Hmmm......

Ok the name "sukerefakere" sounds very comedian to me, so I hope you just laughed at that joke!

bobowaja:

Seriously you need an urgent help. I hope you have lovely relatives that cares about your wellbeing.

Imagine fighting with everyone, Christians, Muslims and atheists (ofcourse we are your nightmares ). You even stoop so low to be fighting spambots. Like seriously?

Wow!

Like seriously, you are worried about me, wetin someone that's not of this world no go even hear from those of this world?

People that are spiritually dead are worried about the spiritually living, no wonder Jesus said, "let the dead worry of their dead"!

Does it really matter if I fight everybody, for as long as the strategy is working as the distinctive results have proven it to be, that has rocked the very foundations of nairaland atheism, that your oga at the top had to come to intervene in futility, then so be it.

Maybe that's the shock that religion actually needed for the winning and thumping streak of atheism over religion in Nairaland religion section to come to an end, that you in particular bobowaja have been peeing in your pants scared.

Therefore so long may the fighting everybody continue, and after you, who next, because i'm really in the mood to rescue some souls from the deep pit of hell, and so i'm not gonna stop till atheism in nairaland finally bites the dust!

Tic, Toc....

OpenYourEyes1:


Bro how long is the ban?

Good morning.

To be honest with you I don't even know as we speak because I would need to post a topic first upon it expiration today to confirm when it actually ends, as the given time of expiration seems to be a mirage.

For I thought it ended yesterday only to post a topic and immediately see me banned again.

They'd have to come and explain themselves what's actually going on, otherwise they'd have to deal with the consequences that emanates from their silence.

Thank a lot for your concern. Really appreciate.

bobowaja:

I am beginning to think you need mental help. Pls don't just pray alone, seek the help of professionals psychologist. Thank me later.

Ok hardmirror's shadow, you finally had the courage to come out of his shell, even without the air that your atheism breaths on, well I must sarcastically applaud your audacity to that extent.

Only that he's no longer going to be able to "drag some more" to hell even though he yet were here, while jesusjnr is here in Nairaland. Watch this space!

As for your thinking, it is absolutely in consonance with the symptoms of Satan zombism, so nothing new there to respond to Satan zombie.

frank317:
It was not seun that banned u, it was demons from the pit of hell, the ones u are always fighting with remember? They are after u, u need to do 40 days dry fasting and pay ur tithes to lordreed. That's the only way u can be free.

Lol!

Can't even remember when I last fasted, for fasting was not meant to be the destination itself but only a means to the destination which i've reached, and hence the distinguished extent of my threat to both satanism and atheism in nairaland, Lol!

Waste 40 days fasting on such powerless entities?

Nah! For i'm even going to make sure I go a 40 days wet, full to my satisfaction eating while I put them all satanic tools to the cleaners, to show that my God pass them all.

Keep watching Lol!

sukerefakere:
Jesusjnr the clown

And I hope that you keep laughing at this "clown" until you get to see who the real "clown" had been all along was actually you.

For only clowns see the truth as a jokes to be laughed at, and jokes as the truth to be taken seriously.

So let's see who truly gets to laugh last.

Was the Nairaland religion section designed Instead to spread satanism and atheism?

If not, then why is jesusjnr being unfairly targeted and banned without any justification whatsoever?

I heard this allegation at least once before, but didn't really take it seriously before this.

So those behind this injustice are going to have to clear this assumption, otherwise they would hence confirm it as true.

For I have given them considerable time to upturn the unfair ban inflicted upon my jesusjnr moniker but they have since turned a blind eye on it.

So they left me with no other choice but to take my quest for justice to the next level.

And this i'm going to keep doing unless I get justice for this unfair treatment.

So to continue to ignore my calls for explanation of this unwarranted ban by those behind this injustice would indeed be very unwise, for there are yet many levels to go as long this injustice persists.

Screen shot of my ban after posted just one topic