₦airaland Forum

andrewza:
you do know that not all comunist movements are the same and just because they have communist in the name does not make them comunist. are you saying the CCP is a marxist group.

Europe is center-right for the most part. or at least closer to the center than they are to the extreme.

FF+ are indeed right wing but all so pretty small.

Faithful007:
Please let's try as much as possible not to debate Western left wing / right wing politics here. Eventually It will take this thread completely off the tracks. Not forgetting that it is very divisive.

GreenandGold:
My man, I would say you're a lost soul, however understanding the kind that groomed you, I am not surprised.

Stating "reasons" why AfriForum is out there pushing misinformation and propaganda is actually supporting the very propaganda, if you were not THEN the reasons should have not mattered because you would have known their intentions......but I will assume you do, which is why you're working extra hard to spread it, like a true propaganda foot soldier.

A logical fallacy argument is what you have been engaged in the past week, shifting goal posts, attacking and using irrelevant points to look like you have an argument all in support of your built-in Boer nationalist $h!t.

Young sir, there's only one problem in South Africa and it claims to be a victim of the post Apartheid South Africa.

andrewza:
his polices

andrewza:
Not rally. We want to have a northern European system but we don't have the cash flow they have. The ANC and even the SACP for that matter are not Marxist. That is only the EFF and MK and both are minority parties.

the ANC is run by business people and is just your typical centre left party where the DA is a center right party. Both parties actually want south Africa to be closer to the Socialist European economy of the EU than the free market system f the USA. It why the ANC formed the GNU with the DA vs the EFF and MK.

andrewza:
He was just stating the truth. Aerica has the right to be upset about it but he did not lie.

GabrielYulaw:
Okay sir.

How you people do this though is something I can never comprehend. I mean loving people who have shown time after time that they hate you and consider you and your kind inferior in all parameters. Like how do you shove that aside and love these kinds of people and eagerly defend them online? Is it ccrack?

GabrielYulaw:
I did not agree to anything. I was merely putting an end to a very unproductive discourse.

andrewza:
yeah People don't realize south Africa is very neutral country that wants to be friends with every one and will deal with every on.

It why we have so many trade deals with different countries

GabrielYulaw:
Okay sir.

GabrielYulaw:
Lol. It's 2025. Do your own research. It's not that hard.

GabrielYulaw:
Lol. I am not gonna hold your hand and lead you to facts about a man who has repeatedly said he wants to fugg his own daughter.

GreenandGold:
I'm not the one on the internet justifying the actions of those polarising Right Wingers called the AfriForum, who are working behind the scenes with international Right Wingers and the Trump administration to undermine a democratically elected South African government.... I will clearly say, we DO have a f#ck3d up local security policy because if we didn't, your boys should be hang!ng for treason.

slimthugchimee2:
It's funny how him and his cohort Elon goes around saying that they are advocates of free speech

Meanwhile Trump has continued to attack free speech through the tenure

GabrielYulaw:
Trump IS a racist, conman, raapist, adulterer, m0ron and more. Saying the truth no be crime. Man was best buddies with Epstein and on Reddit and Quora, you will easily find tales of how he conned carpenters and others who worked in building and renovating his houses/hotels out of their money. Some of these workmen died bankrupt, because Donnie the bonespur fcvker doesn't pay his bills.

You sources are reddit and quora??

GreenandGold:
"I'm not a ra-ppist, but if I am, what difference does it make because my neighbour is also one".

That my friend is a self incriminating statement.


....and BTW, if you're going to use Penuel to justify your own membership, then let it be known that he's a f∆cked person, he's the same guy who brags about NOT raising any of his 6 kids with 4 different baby mamas..... So yeah, you probably have some common standards 😂

GreenandGold:
Bro, you're AfriForum/Solidarity....

GreenandGold:
You're smarter than that bro.... I listened to the whole interview/presentation. The man states that the West will accuse you of human rights when they want to do their dirty business, he goes on to say South Africa is now accused of human rights because of it's land policies.

Stop spreading misinformation with your AfriForum/Solidarity buddies.

GreenandGold:
Bro, are you kidding me? Nelson Mandela spoke against the occupation of Palestine, it's on record.

Taking Israel to the ICC is a morally right thing to do, no one in his right mind should ignore a genocide taking place. Fortunately some of us in South Africa have not been bought off by Jewish money, our conscious is functional.
Diplomatic ties with Israel are not of any benefit to South Africa, Isreal is working with Paul Kagame to undermine South Africa in the DRC, not even something worth defending there.

So, if we South Africans should be "focused in building ourselves", then why is AfriForum and Solidarity working behind closed doors with a foreign power on South Africa's national affairs?

MiddleDimension:
I get your point. But please be proud of your governmen. They have been able to do what most people cannot. I am really proud of you.

GreenandGold:
Bro, are you kidding me? Nelson Mandela spoke against the occupation of Palestine, it's on record.

Taking Israel to the ICC is a morally right thing to do, no one in his right mind should ignore a genocide taking place. Fortunately some of us in South Africa have not been bought off by Jewish money, our conscious is functional.
Diplomatic ties with Israel are not of any benefit to South Africa, Isreal is working with Paul Kagame to undermine South Africa in the DRC, not even something worth defending there.

So, if we South Africans should be "focused in building ourselves", then why is AfriForum and Solidarity working behind closed doors with a foreign power on South Africa's national affairs?

GreenandGold:
I remember when Nelson Mandela came out of prison, there was pressure from the US to distance himself from countries like Cuba because they were the enemies of the US, he refused...In recent years, there has been talk about South Africa having good diplomatic relations with Iran and Russia and some Republicans went on to raise it in a meeting with AfriForum (I will ignore why Republicans and Afrikaner Nationalists are discussing South African international and national matters in Congress when we have diplomatic relations with the US).

My question is; should we hate Iran because the US and Israel hate them? Should we hate Russia because Republicans before Trump did? Should we hate Ukraine because Republicans suddenly hate Zelensky? Is communicating with all parties not neutral?... Do you or Republicans even know what being neutral even means?

In the scheme of things, we all lose alongside AfriForum and Solidarity who won't be exporting food to the US and the US will also lose a neutral country at the tip of Africa.

QuietMynd:
Wat re y'all patching.
That sound spineless
SA has not done anything wrong in my book.

GreenandGold:
In the list of countless things Trump has been saying about South Africa with no evidence?... Ok. I wonder if Israel and AfriForum has anything to do with it.

Anyways, the US has the right to keep and expell any individual in their country, we too have the right.... and that US Consulate in Sandton is prime location, maybe we should look into it. 😎

GreenandGold:
.... Republicans have gotten to this level, it's a new low every day. It's like they're racing to get see how quickly they'll get to the lowest. 🤔

kabe1:
I wish I had the time to start going back and forth with you.

It is delusional to think South-Africa has a larger industry than Nigeria. Perhaps in the past, but not anymore.

But Nigeria and South-Africa depend on parts imports for manufacturing, including in the Auto sector.

It is naive to say Nigeria just has oil, when we refine the crude oil to many different byproducts.

There are at least 8 functional refineries in Nigeria alone.

South-Africa will go bankrupt if it embarks on Nigeria's coastal road project, this is a fact.

rugged7:
The United Kingdom is the most evil & poisonous colonial relic of all other european countries.

Even France and Belgium pale in comparison.

This is why the americans fought them and beat them. Now they keep them at arm's length.

Everything directly or indirectly wrong and rotten with the country Nigeria can be traced to the five leperous fingers of the diabolical Brits.

rugged7:
Very easy to mouth off.

The present SANDF is nowhere comparable to the Apartheid South african Army.

Your army is ill-trained, ill paid, ill-equipped and inexperienced.

Your gripen fleet is practically grounded. The 1 or 2 that can fly will be quickly brought down by Rwandan SAM missiles.

The Rwandan army is a seasoned fighting force with recurrent exposure to the force doctrine right from the Ugandan Bush wars..

That small professional Rwandan army will bring the blundering south african army to it's knees.

Like Kagame told you, fuqq around and find out.

Lurker4Long:
How long before those 2 bases run out of supplies?

kabe1:
Dude, you are deliciously delusional!!!

Better go beg M23.