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AfriqueDuZuid:
Zuma was our last true president... They made us believe believe he's a bad guy, they even manipulated our currency to discredit him.

He went east instead west alightment why they didn't want him, in his tenure more black dollar millionaires were created etc

Guy built 2 new universities from scratch

built a nice R200 mil mansion as well with R30mil fire pool

chrisooblog:
Looks the smartest and logical choice but the black man will F it up.

Sentiments of "Zuma and Malema were once part of the ANC so understand the struggle" will probably hold sway.

Will be glad to be proved wrong.

DA and ANC will form a Government of national unity, the IFP and PA are smaller parties that have been included in the GNU, personally I like both the PA and IFP............The part I find interesting is that out of the 4 parties in the GNU 3 are against expropriation of land without compensation

jl115:
I believe(hope) a DA/ANC coalition is on the cards, it will be by far the best outcome for the country and supporters since if you look at the polls more than 60% have voted for a more central leaning government rather than a radical(left) one.

And it has happened

AfriqueDuZuid:
Again its not GNU if leading party did not get more than 51% just a marriage of convinience

MK might find itself as main opposition in 2029 provided zuma is still there, people love the guy this is not a zulu nationalist thing that media is trying to make it to be.

I don't care what you call it really, coalition, agreement, GNU makes no difference.

MK is a one hit wonder, mostly just people that wanted to punish the ANC and had a Zuma party to do it...bookmark this for 2029

AfriqueDuZuid:
Seems like people speak on how bad nationist ideology is bad by quoting Venezuela as as example

However apartheid South Africa enriched the country with the same using state owned companies right? But now the same guys are saying privatisation because they don't benefit from them

China is biggest economy and one of fastest growing yet it has successful state companies just like apartheid government

I don't get how this has anything to do with what I said

AfriqueDuZuid:
If ANC goes into bed with the DA it will be the end of ANC... Those that are in will view it as betrayal to past leaders

Reality is no one wants ANC/DA except for the big business that's funding them, voters do not want it..... Ramaphosa is not liked even by people in the ANC

Big business /Wants to have invicible hand/Big brother to watch over the country by using the DA because the afraid SA may grow by aligning with BRICS

surveys suggest the opposite actually, most SAns would prefer a ANC/DA coalition, it would also make sense since both DA and ANC are more centre than the PA,MK and EFF.

Also the DA supports BRICS

AfriqueDuZuid:
ANC:40%
DA: 21%
EFF: 9%
MK: 14%
PA: 2.%
IFP: 3.8%
VF plus:1%
ACTIONSA: 1%


ONLY WINNER here is MK of zuma.. DA has reached the glass ceiling, its only going down from here a lot of truths coming out.

If MK was not there PA would have been around 7% along with ACTIONSA, DA will never grow in SA

The PA and MK have fundamental differences the PA is centre right leaning and the MK is 100% left leaning.....your statement doesn't make sense in this regard, why would people that voted MK have voted PA, when these parties share nothing in common?

As for the DA, it all boils down to the next 5 years, they could potentially grow a lot if they gain more control with the new GNU the ANC is suggesting and they preform well, They have also made good compromises that could mean a solid and stable ANC DA cooperation. The EFF agreement stated it will not form part of a GNU if the DA and FF is involved and the MK won't work with the ANC unless Ramaphosa steps down, this might be either a masterstroke or a death sentence to the MK EFF since that will leave a DA ANC option only and if the DA and ANC can turn SA around nobody is going to vote for those parties again.

kabe1:
Yes, I think you did.

Or you post the links.

@Shaytun read the articles....why are you lazy??

Shaytun:
You do know the mortar attack is a separate incident right??

I think what is more worrying is that the SANDF contingent in DRC has no Air asset whatsoever.

What it looks like is your soldiers are severely under equipped and your airforce is suffering from insufficient and fully operational aircrew and aircraft, and likely does not have enough ordnance.

- Yes, literally what I said

- Yes I agree 100%

- Debatable

kabe1:
Can you provide any credible links to back these claims?

where do you think I got it from? Sucked it out my thumb? Its all over the news

GeneralDae:
Would EFF also be in that coalition? What of Zuma’s party?

EFF/ANC coalition will not make up the majority required and thus there would need to be a third party, MK stated it would only work with the ANC if Ramaphosa isn't president

rvp2018:
Agreed - sensible thing to save South Africa from leftist communist.

There is talk about a secret coalition between the DA and ANC, both parties however do not want to enter an official coalition due to the fact that they are worried about their reputation thus they are calling it a working agreement but it is infact a coalition

kabe1:
That's not always the case.

The evidence we've seen are captured SANDF vehicles and at least 1 KIA.

No other evidence apart from these.

Here's what we know, the vehicles a casspir and mamba of the sandf were captured by the m23 and were recaptured shortly after the ambush when SADC forces launched a counter attack, the vehicles however were damaged beyond repair since they were hit by antitank missiles and were blown up rather than being towed back to base, no casualties were recorded due to this ambush which is testament to the design and protection of the mamba and casspir.

The casualty is result of a mortar that hit the base.

kabe1:
Where's the evidence that many M23 were killed?

The fact that the ambush was repelled would logically mean they lost significant amount of men to retreat.

Shaytun:
It seems the SANDF is really getting whooped by M23 rebels.

It looks like they were able to get into the the SADC base and inflict casualties.

UNCONFIRMED: As per AFC-M23 rebel group, this occured at the SADC base near Mubambiro this evening. South African APC (Casspir?) damaged.

They say #SAMIDRC vehicles were then evacuated to the city center of Goma. pic.twitter.com/88AxBAfdy5

— Dean Wingrin (@deanwingrin) May 31, 2024

No South African base was captured or penetrated, South African vehicles supposedly captured don't have regular SANDF paint scheme makes me wonder if they are not that of other SAMIDRC countries, and 1 dead vs many m23 dead isn't getting whooped bru

rvp2018:
You nailed it.
So what next - will rest form coalition against ANC?
Or they MK or EFF will give ANC a majority
Or ANC will form a minority gov

I believe(hope) a DA/ANC coalition is on the cards, it will be by far the best outcome for the country and supporters since if you look at the polls more than 60% have voted for a more central leaning government rather than a radical(left) one.

jl115:
well obviously you did not look properly because the ANC only got 46% of the national vote, secondly the EFF didn't grow, they have reached their ceiling and their policies especially those on open borders has kept them from growing, ActionSA on the other hand only contested 6 municipalities... Only 6!! And it already got 2.5% of the national vote, the DA has recently lost white votes not black votes, neither is it a white party, simply looking at SAs demographics will prove that the DA isn't a white party you ignorantly call it, the DA has also done well in recent by elections and is currently controlling 4 of 7 major metros in Joburg, Tshwane,CT and Ekurhuleni.... They might have not grown in support but they have increased the number of metros they are controlling and they are doing very well at running those metros.

My predictions for 2024
ANC: 41%
DA:25%
EFF: 12%
ActionSA :7%
Others: 5%

Unless the EFF go into a coalition with the ANC which is very unlikely we will see a coalition government led by a DA president.

This was my prediction almost a 2 years ago....

How it's panning out:

ANC:42%
DA: 25%
EFF: 9%
MK:9%
PA: 3.5%
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ActionSA 1%

Things i didn't expect then: Formation of the MK which has taken votes from the EFF and and obviously a vast chunk of ANC votes, the PA that has grown tremendously, they had a great campaign and their leader Gayton McKenzie must be applauded, they have also certainly taken a chunk of ASA votes and DA colored votes .....ASA being a fart in the wind, there campaigning for these elections as been non existent, in fighting has also greatly damaged the party.

Things that are surprising me:
DA @ 25% although i predicted this then the actual PR of the DA is brain dead and personally i thought they wouldn't get more than 22%

MK taking 3rd spot, I knew Zuma was popular but dammmm....

EFF I honestly thought would've done better, not by much but better, they have certainly been hurt by the MK

Shaytun:
The US army, French army and Swedish wear gumboots in combat?

yeah when deployed in certain terrain....the more you know hey

Shaytun:
Lmao, so the incompetency of the Nigerian army is an excuse for the SANDF to be incompetent as well

I didn’t know your armed force manual is derived from the Nigerian Army.

I guess you missed the part where I also said US army, French army and Swedish army?

Shaytun:
I could care less if the gumboots is $1M, fact of the matter is , we are looking at a deployed soldier in an active combat zone with an inefficient equipment.

Since when are gumboots insufficient? You ever been on deployment in the DRC?

Im guessing the US army, French Army, Swedish army ect ect.....oh yes and off course the Nigerian army all have a shortage of boots? Well to be fair the Nigerian army it might be true

Shaytun:
Oh, sure, because of the terrain let’s choose a gumbo ots over a combat boot even though it has worse traction, does not fit well which will obviously lead to feet problem, less breathable also. Ignore the obvious that combat boot are made for all terrain even wet jungles and can be waterproof to.

Rational thinking there buddy

bro, you think he is wearing $10 gumboots?? Again use some of that gray matter!

Shaytun:
Lack of combat boot in SANDF?

That's the conclusion you got to?? Maybe use some gray matter and think where they are deployed, and weather wise what its like there....

neyobills:
This would be a game changer if the Nigeria Air Force can acquire a couple of this platforms especially in the fight against insurgents

There are better and cheaper CAS platforms

Goel:
Mauritius is a special case, it's a small island country with no say.

Small island countries are dependent upon geopolitics for their situation and not on their own. They can extreme poor like Haiti or extreme rich like Singapore.

Your comparisons are horribly factually incorrect in any context be it comparison between differences in Nig and IND vs SA and US or direct facts.

1. Gap between India and US of income is over 25 times. Levels of SA and Nigeria in development is similar and both are far far behind US or India.

2. SA is far from being a developed country. Except per capita income and few cities (because of white population), SA is abysmally behind India in all development indicators, innovation index, IHDI and so forth. And the way India is growing and SA economy is collapsing, India will thrice as rich as SA by end of this decade.

3. SA is a not a diverisfied economy. US and India are highly diversified industrial economies. Reference their industrial sectors, innovation index, USPTO rankings and economic complexity index.

4. Economic Inequality: SA (Gini 63.0) has most Inequality, much more than India (Gini 35.7) and US (Gini 39.4).

5. Private sector: India's private sector in a month produces more than what is SA's GDP. US is in a different league. India is world's largest pool of startups with a 100 unicorns (start ups crossing 1 billion dollars revenue) and world's third largest FDI receipent. SA's private sector here is not even nut sized.

5. Wokeness: India is the only stable democracy of world with no civil wars, military rule, same sex rights and again, woke movement too has much longer.

6. Right to bear arms: That's a sign of lawlessness if SA takes pride in it.

I do not have to talk about space, scientific research, nuclear & aviation.
Second one

1. Developing economy: Nigeria is a Developing economy, India is a newly industrialized country.

2. Strong Diaspora: Indian Diaspora is not comparable to Nigerian Diaspora. I will remain silent on what Indian Diaspora does in other countries vs what Nigerian Diaspora does or I will look like racist.

3. Every democracy has Convoluted politics. Difference is Nigerian politics has brought civil wars and military rules. Indian politics most long lasting democracy in developing world with only 6 prime ministers ruling country for most history, a western style industrial system, and a system which ranks in line with best democracies in world.

4. Religious and Tribal tension: I won't repeat again. In India, communities do not clash daily. What happens daily in Nigeria would be called civil war in India. Just compare rankings of two countries in fragile stated index.

5. Worship of elite: Utter bullshit coming from you.


There is a no similarity and every country is specific on its own. China, India are Southeast Asian countries and highly industrialized developing countries at levels of developed world and will replace them soon. You cannot compare those to Africa where basic first industrial revolution has not properly started.

Nigeria and South Africa share no similarity with them just because a disgruntled BBC employee loves to yell at India.

1. ridiculous statement, SA is far ahead in all development indexes.

2. Excluding small island nations SA is the most developed African nation, it's also considered a NIC, Also SA is ahead of India wrt to Global innovation index, above India in terms of Quality of infrastructure index, above in HDI, above in LPI...should I go on?

3.Did you do any research at all before typing this? SA is not that far behind India in terms of diversification and ranks 42nd in the world

4. not disputed

5. What?

6. In SA you can own a gun if you get a license, right to bear arms isn't in the constitution

AskiaHarem:
lol

yeah still nothing .......always funny how people think they know when the second coming is....before Jesus even

NTSA:
In the Israel and Iran Fiasco.You've got to appreciate the display of interoperability between Israeli,US &UK militaries from the Navy ,ground to air assets.
They almost operate seamlessly together.

Israel also uses the same link16 data link that nato does, hence why the interoperability to this extent is possible.

Exnavyboy62:
GDP of 401 billion dollars but, but no money to give Eskom to maintain the power grid. I hope you have charged your phone with energy generated from solar panel

GDP of 401 billion dollars, meanwhile your military budget, is dwindling with each passing year, no significant acquisition in the past year, no money for maintenance of equipments and spare parts

Who said peace has been restored

@GreenandGold

See what you did now!!

Saddamochieng00:
@Jl115 I'm afraid you were right. That doesn't mean I don't have my reservations on musk himself. Saw a video of his family's former housemaid and she seems to confirm that he's indeed the antichrist.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umNSEBc5pBg?si=tjE-aeRaiOftDHLd

Don't worry bro, the original hebrew texts in the bible uses the word chuwg which means sphere in English thus the bible does not teach flat earth.

However Musk being the anti christ.....well ill not be surprised if he turned out to be man will one day control the worlds social media, internet , energy,transport, and even peoples brains.

P.s i might be exaggerating a bit

SANDF SVI Max 3 4x4 and 6x6 vehicles

AskiaHarem:
This is why nothing meaningful every gets accomplished in the field. You refuse to acknowledge the main problem.

I didn't say illegal immigrants are the main problem

AskiaHarem:
More like a drop in the bucket learn accountability.

nope a ''good deal"