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Politics / Re: Another Civil War Will Lead To The End Of Nigeria; Setting The Records Straight. by Joenz(m): 7:03pm On Jun 25, 2015
EUROBOMBER:
I want to start by saying that I am not in support of Biafra or any attempts to break Nigeria but decided to do this write up because of some comments I read on nairaland lately. I am not in support of war and bloodshed; I am a man of peace and justice.

Nigeria will not survive a second war. Any other full blown war would lead to the complete disintegration of Nigeria and here are my reasons:

The Igbos lost the Biafran war because we had to take on the rest of Nigeria largely alone, the North and SW fought against us supported by parts of the SS. The Nigerian military was heavily armed by the Soviet Union and Great Britain and had a limitless supply of weapons. We had no access to the sea and our people were starved to death which swelled our casualty figures.

Unlike in 1967, the SS will not give Nigeria the kind of support it did during the Biafran war. A lot of SS people are not happy with Nigeria and many are already calling for a referendum, some are even calling for outright war with Nigeria so that they can break away. The SS have realised their errors in frustrating the Biafran agenda and would do all they can to help ensure the collapse of Nigeria should another war break out. They might not join the Igbos, but they would give all their support to end this union first so that they might be on their own instead continuing to bear the dead weight of the Fulani from the North.

The people of the MB will not join the core north this time to fight against the Igbos. These people are being systematically wiped out by the invading fulanis who are planning to annex their lands for cattle grazing. I have personally interacted with a lot of MB people and they are full of regrets about their role in the civil war. In the event of another war, the MB will rise up against their killers from the far north. If the Fulanis continue to kill the MB people at the current rate, then it is a matter of when not how they would eventually wipe out the MB people and take their lands.

The Yoruba would not want to be involved in any fight against the Igbos again especially if the Eastern army makes no advance towards the west like what happened during the last civil war in the march to librate Lagos from northern occupier army which had occupied the west. I am not a Yoruba man but I doubt very much that the Yoruba would willingly just jump into battle to assist the core north. The Yoruba would do all they can to try and stay out of any fighting and would prefer to be on the fence. They might however be forced into the war from either flank.
The Nigerian military is currently tied down in a frustrating battle against boko haram in the NE. Boko haram has international dimensions to it and might not end any time soon. There are foreign powers that want Nigeria to split and these powers would ensure that with a full scale war, Nigeria breaks into different parts. The Nigerian military will not be able to fight on two or three major fronts because even the military itself will crumble considering the fact that our soldiers are drawn from the various tribes. The Fulani soldiers would be isolated; the Igbo and SS soldiers would withdraw to defend the East, Yoruba soldiers would withdraw to defend the West and the MB soldiers would use the opportunity to vent against their killers.

At the end of the day, there might not be much fighting before the centre crumbles and Nigeria breaks to parts. The Igbos lost in the 1967-1970 civil war but a repeat war would yield a completely different result and that result would be the end of Nigeria.

This is a message for all those writing rubbish on nairaland, running their mouths and boasting that we would be defeated in another war. I thought I should open this thread to set the records straight for those that cannot see the writings on the wall and not to create an avenue for tribal fighting.
Dear Op,what is wrong with you guys?y are u guys so blinded with emotions?y d cry all the time?are u d only group in Nigeria?y do u always want things to go your way alone?y are u blackmailing d whole Nigerian state with secession wen u will gladly stay if u are offered d leadership of d country on a platter?You went to war d last time because of d ambition of one man,u av started again by shamelessly attacking other tribes in ur region wen u av legions of ur kinsmen scattered all over d country,if such folks are attacked in retaliation,will genocide,do u take others for fools or what exactly.Ohaneze youths are already treathning war because of Ekweremadu,y do u always view everything from d tribal side?well,u av written beautifully about how Nigeria will not survive another civil war but pls,have u thought that d Igbo tribe might not survive another war?Remember you have made enemies out of every other tribe with your relentless,unprovoked attacks and name-calling.To every action,thr must be a reaction,why not think it through before you declare another war that you can't tell how it will end?Peace out mehnn!

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Education / Re: Unilag pg 2014 Discussion by Joenz(m): 7:32am On Oct 23, 2014
Hello guys,can anyone offer any assistance with heamatology and blood transfusion science past questions or anyone writing the exam?pls drop your number asap,thanks!
Health / Re: Go To Court, Lawyers Tell Sacked Doctors by Joenz(m): 8:26pm On Aug 18, 2014
Lolz,I jes pity u Phantom.You are surely not exempted from the general delusional feeling of self-importance that is so rampant among NMA members.Which commotion have you and your colleagues caused?heaven don fall?Residents were sacked n Nigeria is marching foward.Again,it was you that depended on NLC,TUC,NUPENG,PENGASSON even JOHESU to raise their voices n fight your course,you are the same person accusing and demonising TUC that has given you the prodigal son's traetment and come to your rescue.By the way,who proscribed NMA from NLC?

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Health / Re: Nma Strike: Sack Of Resident Doctors,laughable By Dr Paul John by Joenz(m): 7:59pm On Aug 18, 2014
Reasonable individuals have learnt to ignore this rabid dog called Paul John over time!Saint pope John Paul we all know,this wannabe I just a nonentity at best.Phantom how market?you didn't see the sack coming did you?@ least it will reduce the caos in the health sector to some point.lol

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Health / Re: Doctors Urges FG To Implement PPP Scheme In Hospitals by Joenz(m): 7:19pm On Aug 02, 2014
armadeo:
^^^^^
What does the pharmacy in the hospital do apart from what you listed. Please educate us.
You don't judge all by your immediate environment friend but more importantly,call for the privatization of ur department n let others decide what happens to theirs.
Health / Re: Doctors Urges FG To Implement PPP Scheme In Hospitals by Joenz(m): 5:01pm On Aug 02, 2014
thepathologist:

there is different between services and products. laboratories and pharmacy sell products. doctors sell services. professional services are difficult to quantify and measure.
So to you,pharmacy starts n ends with drug dispensing right?hence,all they do is sell products and the laboratory,biko which products do they sell in the laboratories.You see if I were you,I will limit myself to what I knw and join ma brother Zeus to tenaciously push for the privatization of the wards since I'm sure it will benefit the physicians a whole lot more.Physicians,leave other professionals alone to determine their individual fate and face yours.if privatization is d new toga,ask for the privatization of your dept n leave others to determine what happen to theirs.The earlier u realise that d hospital isn't the physicians estate whr everything must b structured to suit u,the better for the sector as a whole.

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Health / Re: Doctors Urges FG To Implement PPP Scheme In Hospitals by Joenz(m): 3:50pm On Aug 02, 2014
Nigerian greedy and unthinking physicians on the brink!Yesterday u canvassed for total privatization,today its PPP,what exactly do you want?or more appropriately,when exactly will you stop blaming others for what your greed,selfishness and delisional self-importance has led you?For your info.,all such schemes will be firmly resisted n fought to a standstill.if privatzation is d new magic wand for the health sector,it is to b total i.e all depts!Conversely,u want PPP?it has to start from d consulting room,down to d theatre n all other depts shikena.Anything short of dis is an open invitation to anarchy(borrowng d words of NMA).I wonder wen u guys will stop thing that d hospital was made solely for u,hence,every other pesrons n groups thr must b brought to subjection n servitude n I wondey why NMA has been foisted with leadership liabilities for so long,aint thr decent members that can pilot d fast-becoming hopeless association?Sigh!make I stop here for now,oya,attack me.

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NYSC / Re: Ebonyi State Batch B'14 Let's Meet Here by Joenz(m): 8:55am On Aug 02, 2014
Congrats to y'll on your call-up n welcome to Ebonyi state.Back in march 2014,I moved with okeysson from iyana ipaja in Lagos n got to Afikpo camp around 6pm or thereabout.Come with everything u'll need including all documents,b open-minded n enjoy ur stay in camp as much as u can cos its gonna b just dis once n it shall b part of ur life time experiences.Wish u'll very safe trip n happy stay in camp,enjoy yourselves n b safe!

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Health / Re: JOHESU Sues NMA, Says Doctors Strike Illegal by Joenz(m): 6:52pm On Jul 17, 2014
texazzpete:

Please leave me out of your petty kobo-kobo squabbles. As an Engineer, I have no bone in this fight. Strike doesn't affect me one bit since I'm robustly covered by a health Insurance scheme as well as a full medical coverage from my company. More often than not, i argue on the side of the Doctors because I've seen first-hand the improved output of Medical doctors whose welfare are well take care of.

What I will not do is copy you and send my brains away on holiday. I will not deny reality. The doctors have a very strong hand to play here. JOHESU really is on a weaker foot. Going to court will not make any difference.

it will be amusing seeing JOHESU's reaction when the FG gives the NMA what they want. Will JOHESU now go on a protest strike and stay in the risk of being accused of hypocrisy for abandoning patients?
U jes tempted me to release some bile on u,but no,I will not lest I descend to your disgraceful ebb of stupidity,difference is while u enjoy d tantrums cos of d pig u r,it'll be too embarrasing for a person of ma decent standing.One word for u,learn to say nothing about something you know nothing abt next time.it will b good for you!

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Health / Re: JOHESU Sues NMA, Says Doctors Strike Illegal by Joenz(m): 9:27am On Jul 17, 2014
texazzpete:



Don't be naive. The NMA has everyone over a barrel right now. No matter what happens in the courts, doctors are indispensable and thus will always be listened to. There's no 'big win' for JOHESU here, and I strongly doubt this will end the way they think it will.

Going to court to declare NMA strikes illegal will only serve to increase the tension. We'll see how it goes
lol,keep up with ur larger-than-life delusion holding to ur all-in-all believe.Let the tension increase,it has always been high,we r all in d sector n we will keep up with it

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Health / Re: JOHESU Sues NMA, Says Doctors Strike Illegal by Joenz(m): 9:20am On Jul 17, 2014
phantom: grin grin......the earlier you realise that JOHESU is inconsequential in this matter, the better for you.
your HOR are busy running helter skelter to save the situation.abi you no see elumelu dey shake like leaf for TV?
let me tell you what will happen.the money will eventually be released WITH APOLOGIES.
the issue of consultancy and directorship will be difficult for JOHESU.already the judg in the matter is hiding because the heat has become too much.
if you have not seen that NMA has the yam and the knife,then.........grin
Lol Phantom my Phantom,I believe u knw we r already becoming friends on here.Who says JOHESU has issues with the payment of the arrears?Everyone will be paid effective from january for ur info so who cares?On directorship n consultancy status,at least we r making progress,as u av said here,it will be difficult n not d former impossibility.We all wait n see.I also hp ur. Misguided supporters noted how use all manner of corrupt gimmicks to av ur way in d health sector,u jes admitted u guys r putting lotta pressure on d judge,we will see whr it ends.Lest I forget,I saw ur dubious n fraudulent table thead of earning of of d various professionals in the health sector,I can never undastand y u guys no dey fear God.we'll continue following d issues sha.

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Health / Re: JOHESU Sues NMA, Says Doctors Strike Illegal by Joenz(m): 9:09am On Jul 17, 2014
house37:

There is freedom of association guess that's the reason why pharmacists, lab scientists, optometrists,cleaners,clerks ,mortuary attendants etc can all come together to form an association.
While I ignore your predictable and very usual jibes,who says thisnt freedom of association?ofcos u can associate as you so wish but u av no right watsoeva to assume the status of a labour union,make demands and call for strikes when u are not one.If u don't understand the issue,that's why JOHESU went to court.It is then left to the court to make its pronouncement which all parties MUST comply with.I'm expecting an ex-parte order which will compel NMA to go back to work until d determination of the substantive suite tho.
Health / Re: JOHESU Sues NMA, Says Doctors Strike Illegal by Joenz(m): 9:00am On Jul 17, 2014
Anyone that says wetin concern JOHESU with NMA's strike needs to get his head examined asap.Where were you when MDCAN,inspired by NMA went to court to stop the implementation of FG's agreements with JOHESU?NMA and its sister associations are well aware they are fighting a lost battle.If you must stop the implementation of an issue a court of competent jurisdiction has given judgement over,should it not be by approaching the same court or a higher one?how come they wanted it by strike?I must commend the awareness of all the parent associations in JOHESU.We relax and watch as the issues unfold.

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Health / Re: JOHESU Sues NMA, Says Doctors Strike Illegal by Joenz(m): 8:46am On Jul 17, 2014
A very good move by JOHESU and this will put an end to this very issue that has lingered for far too long.Left to some of us,this would have been done a long time ago.I ask,is anything wrong in NMA and its allied associations vis ARD,MDCAN,ASSOPON etc registering as trade union?We await the decision of the court while reminding the NMA of the its probable humiliation if the court first order that status quo should be maintained.My olive branch to NMA,avert this impending public disgrace now by doing the needful,a stich in time saves nine they say!

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Health / Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by Joenz(m): 7:14pm On Jul 10, 2014
joker5180: of course NMA did obtained circulars but we rejected them, ask you usual spy at FMOH
This is laughable!which circulars and why is NMA still on strike?can you provide copies?ur a clown as ur name rightly suggests!
Health / Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by Joenz(m): 7:02pm On Jul 10, 2014
bntY: First,let me commend her satire.it’s classical as
usual.Aunty funke,i appreciate your anger or is
it bitterness about d on-going strike.it
becomes worse when we loose someone to d
doctor’s tardiness.but let me add dt ur
approach is a simplistic or skewed view.The matter at hand is a step, though uncanny, to
forestall a looming bedlam in d health sector
or nig as a whole.The employer kindled the
fire when it acceded the request of one at the
expense of d other.when 2 employees are at
logger head d employer resolves it not by dancin to d tune of one without proper
scrutiny of d matter.The govt’s intervention is
a subtle way of encouraging apathy….why go
d hard way(studying and sacrificing as a
doctor) when you can get it d easy way(study
anything,just find ur way to the hospital and you will enjoy d same benefit as a doctor).
Why are you being decietful?Why are you economical with the truth?Prof Chukwu arbitrarily stopped consultancy of health workers,health workers took FG to court,court ordered that consultancy for health workers should be sustained,should FG disobey the court order?

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Health / Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by Joenz(m): 6:57pm On Jul 10, 2014
Mbediogu: the issue is not whether doctors are becoming gods like journalists who have been known to start and end wars thro the ages with what they write, it goes beyond that. Our calling is that of service, not speculation and unfortunately it is always a matter of life and death rather than of war and peace.
1.A consultant consults, in our case with patients. How will the convenient will it be for a sick and poor patient to serially consult from the medical doctor down to the consultant Johesu pharmacist, nurses, labman, cleaner etc? In terms of time, costs, convenience etc.
2. Differences sometimes arise between doctors approach to patient management but these are easily ressolved because of similarity in basic orientation and training. How are such differences (which are sure to be multiplied under Johesu plan), going to be ressolved?
3. The gang up against doctor is sure to start back-firing within hours should it be adopted and then journalists in their cavalier write-ups would remember who ought to have called others to order.
4. Maybe you dont know, all those clamoring to become 'consultants' already own big hospitals even in your village where all sorts of submedical things are done. The are just looking for a way to legalise things. Be informed.
pleas tell me,is the non-dr consultancy a new thing in Nigeria?Is it that they are just demanding it to start?Let us put things in perspective.

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Health / Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by Joenz(m): 6:44pm On Jul 10, 2014
joker5180: spot on; never grant any union's demands in isolation but federal ministry of health keeps issueing circulars full of confusion.
for example following threats by JOHESU the FMOH issued a circular last month for placement of medical lab. scientist pupils/interns at a salary level equal to that of a lab. scientist that has just joined the service after NYSC. ALL the federal hospitals are presently having difficulty inplementing this circular, when one of the MDs asked a minitry official the reply was " it is not meant to be inplemented but issued just to doused tension"
Why are you bringing another dimension to the discuss?If so,why hasn't NMA gotten a circularisation of an agreement to implement its 24 demands even if its for not implementation but merely to douse tension?You all keep misleading the public like non-drs have not always been appointed consultants before prof Onyebuchi Chukwu stopped it muttering words like consultancy is exclusively preserved for the drs.I believe you aware of NMA dropping 21 of its previous spurious demands,pursuing just three nw.We stay calm and await how the imbroglio ends.

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Health / Re: See The Prescription Of A Nurse During This Strike. by Joenz(m): 7:00pm On Jul 09, 2014
logic2014:

Are u really serious or just feigning ignorance. if i get u right one can't run FBS at 2.30am. when doctors look down on you people u would start complaining. if you were well schooled you would know that u can order for FBS at 2.30am. Rather than abuse you I choose to educate you. You can run fasting blood sugar (FBS) so long as the patient has not had a meal in the last 8 hours. This is where history taking( which the doctor takes: i don't know if you take history from samples sent to you.) so if the last time this patient in question had a meal was 6pm, the blood sugar level you would get is the fasting blood sugar. The reason why it is usually done first thing in the morning is for convenience sake because it is easier to abstain from food through the night. I don't blame you for not knowing this because you were not trained to know. it is ignorance and misinformation like this that would make u give misinformation to patients and why doctors are fighting hard to make sure you don't practice beyond your scope.
its obvious u r stl a student,ur seniors know better!
Health / Re: Johesu’s Claims Against Doctors In Nigeria; A Case Of Historic Amnesia by Joenz(m): 1:12pm On Jul 08, 2014
armadeo:


so first we agree that the Dr gloria whom you "googled" is not the same as the one that you are claiming to be pretending to be an MLS (meaning you are predisposed to telling half truths or outright lies).

secondly if a Dr Owolabi can come out publicly to declare his opinion AGAINST the on going strike for whatever reason does it not stand to reason that an MLS can also be against the stand of JOHESU.

Is this beyond your comprehension


[b][/b]

If this is your opinion I wonder just how far you will go to prove your point. as I said above we only see the world the way we are.
NO!Until this phantom MLS comes out publicly like dr Owolabi did,everything credited to her remain mere tissue of lies and figment of the imagination of whoever cooked that up.I av no comments for ur other tantrums.
Health / Re: See The Prescription Of A Nurse During This Strike. by Joenz(m): 12:39pm On Jul 08, 2014
Phantomm Phantomm,presumably one of the all-knowing drs we have around,well-done o!So tell me,what do you have to say abt a dr requested for FBS @ 2.30 am.the request was sent back to him and he insisted till he appropriately schooled.so how is he gonna make a better consultant than this very Nurse?I dey laff o,try again bro.

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Health / Re: Johesu’s Claims Against Doctors In Nigeria; A Case Of Historic Amnesia by Joenz(m): 12:21pm On Jul 08, 2014
armadeo:



Check the spelling of the name you googled and the one the op you quoted wrote.


PS do you actually think a fellowship holder in newyork will come to naira land and pretend to be a lab scientist in order to make a point.


Anyway we never see the world the way it is we only see the world the way we are.
Do you actually think a Lab Scientist can say what was credited to the said Gloria?All is fair in war they say.Many Nigerian physicians can go to any level n do the ridiculous to drive home their egoistic points.I'm not suprised at all.
Health / Re: Johesu’s Claims Against Doctors In Nigeria; A Case Of Historic Amnesia by Joenz(m): 8:10pm On Jul 07, 2014
tunesoft: Gloria Iheanacho writes. And i found it interesting.

I am a Medical lab scientist in one of the state hospitals. I have this strange feeling for doctors, hatred is the extreme form of what i feel about them. Its nothing personal. My family are JOHESU-mother is a nurse practising in the US for more than 16yrs, father is a pharmacist. 2 of my siblings are pharmacist and one a nurse. My mother watched the sunrise daily yesterday and kept on screaming. Theres no place in the US in which the other health workers heads. They are usually headed by doctors. Not all nurses are made consultants. You talk about consultant nurse when you talk about the legal aspect and they dont work in hospitals. Relativity is maintained everywhere in the health sector. Whats the debate about?
As hard as it is for me to write this, i want to be on the side of truth. The doctors in this country are not given the necessary respect that they need. Personally, i have read the 24 point demands and i think theres so much sense in it. The FG needs to do something about this. Lets join our hands and build our health sector. Health they say is wealth
You see I just did a google search on the name Gloria Ihenacho and the results showed her to be a medical doctor,masquerading here as a Scientist.This sadly is a classical example of how low most Nigerian drs can go to mislead the public and sabotage their colleagues to protect their overbloated ego.This fool s here lying to deride the public to her constituency's advantage,a big disgrace to the noble profession if u ask me.It is therefore left to our policy makers to verify all claims n ascertain their veracity b4 dis chalatans mislead the whole nation as many of us do no have the luxury of time to continue exposing these ignoble maniacs.You claim to be the most brilliant of all,why are u afraid of competing to head the hospital?You a fellowship program of ur council n became a consultant,another man wants to do the fellowship of his council to become a consultant n you said no,is it ur business?This surely is far from being over,the faint-hearted should opt out now when they can!

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Health / Re: JOHESU Press Release on the NMA STRIKE by Joenz(m): 9:21pm On Jul 03, 2014
[quote author=infolekan]

It's a pity that the Pharmacist and the Nurses have allowed themselves to be drawn into this riftraft of a group called JOHESU as the core health professions still remain Medicine, Nursing and Pharmacy.Quite heart-warming u acknowledged d Pharmacists n Nurses as Core health professionals n d whole thing not about d all-knowing doctors.But isn't is disgraceful dat ur very NMA hasn't stopped making calls for d out-soucing of dis very set of core health professionals(Pharmacists)?If we say ur NMA is irresponsible,u will say we are abusing you,u keep feeding on d ignorance of our govt n d masses to ur own advantage.May be,just may be thr is smfin for d masses in d whole of dis.

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Health / Re: JOHESU Press Release on the NMA STRIKE by Joenz(m): 8:42pm On Jul 03, 2014
theexpected:

Yea yea grin i know i said i waz leaving, bt i just had to reply this b4 logging off

Lolz i'm laughin here u r trying too hard to impress with big terms.... So that u would be seen as intelligent ba, of course im nt sayin u r not ooh, cuz i can c u want to start throwing insults


I waz only tryin to explain that most times lab results are wrong and have to be repeated if it does not correspond with the clinical findings.........abi, havnt u heard of types of errors.....[/b] error of equipment, error of the reagent, error due to the lack of skill of the lab attendant, error caused by many other things e.t.c[b]

And u come here to talk about over loading and and haematopoietin andrenal failure like i'm one uninformed fellow that doesn'tknow what it means.
of course if d stuff u mentioned above happens, d doctor's licence can be revoked even if d patient does nt press charges..
How many times have u heard of a nurses' licence seized, or a lab technician sacked for wrong result? due to patients death....its always d doctors that suffer for whatever negative outcome in treatment. [/b]everyone blames the doctor[b]

P.s dnt bother to reply. I'm sorry if u r pained(i do not mean this as an insult pls) i get ur point abi, what more can i say....
Honestly u r nt doin d profession u practise any good.Babe u keep pulling stats outta ur bra n brandishing them as tho they r facts.the drs suffer any negative outcome in treatment?everyone blame d dr?for real?Tell me,who got sacked for the baby transfused with HIV infected blood in lagos?All u guys need are ppl that will make out time to engage u and u chicken out jes lyk u've done.It is too late to back out of d numerous struggles in d health sector,it is only a matter of time.But then,I pity d poor patients.good good nyt
Health / Re: JOHESU Press Release on the NMA STRIKE by Joenz(m): 8:07pm On Jul 03, 2014
phantom: as usual you have missed his point and already spinning a story around the little medicine you know.
u sure knw I av no business watsoever wit u,allow ur seniors to talk,listen n make ur notes,thr is seniority in d profession u r studying,ur lecturers will tell u dat if dey av never.
Health / Re: JOHESU Press Release on the NMA STRIKE by Joenz(m): 7:44pm On Jul 03, 2014
theexpected:

U r still making me laugh, in nigeria nothing works, most patients do not have the money to do tests so therefore only basic tests are done in most instances most times medical students and doctors contribute money to pay for patient's test.

Do u even come in contact with patients if u do u'd know that majority are the lower class and are nt financially bouyant


Thats why as a doctor u must be well grounded to be sure enough to diagnose ur patient based on clinical findings, so that any test that can be skipped is skipped and only d neccessary ones are done




For instance if i feel a patient has anaemia from my clinical finding of paleness, i také a bld sample and send to the lab if the lab report says he is normal, nd im nt satisfied i order a repeat which in most instances turn out to be different from the former report.

Bt if i také d initial report and do nothing about it, and my patient runs into complications later, no one will listen to me when i give d excuse that "afterall, d lab report says he is alright"
I will be sanctioned. Thats y as a doctor u would make ur diagnosis even before involving any lab
Another pathological lie typical of the lying egomaniac Nigerian physicians.whrever u practice in Nigeria,hw can u say med students n physicians pay for patients' tests MOST times,dnt u guys av conscience at all?And then to ur example,so cos d second test confirms ur suspesion of anaemia,u then load d patient with all sorts of heamatinics and supplement without caring to know wat d root cause is.let's assume d issue abt renal disorder leading to inadequate production of heamopoietin,then u continue loading ur patient with blood,patient suffers citrate toxicity n dies after massive blood tranfusion.This is exactly why u will b in jail in a sane society cos d will b thoroughly investigated n actsof incompetence or negligence severely punished!
Health / Re: JOHESU Press Release on the NMA STRIKE by Joenz(m): 7:07pm On Jul 03, 2014
theexpected:


smiley u r so funny, kai being in jail, for what if i may ask, na wa ooh u r one of those pple that threaten everybody they have a disagreement with jail time, being in jail for saying medical students wre drafted to fill in for nurses when they went on strike...... U r tempting me but i refuse to yield to the use of insultive terms
Who cares abt wat some over-zealous brain-washed MB.BS students do?d issue shld b 'did d striking Nurses achieve their aim or not?'Now to y I qouted u,u feel its ethical and beneficial to treat based on some vital signs and history and u talk of qualitative healthcare delivery?Heck u dnt even try that in well-structured Nigerian clinics,my brother u won't dare!I just pity d masses @ d receiving end of dis whole imbroglio.
Health / Re: JOHESU Press Release on the NMA STRIKE by Joenz(m): 6:31pm On Jul 03, 2014
[quote author=armadeo]



as would you.[/quote)And you are?
Health / Re: JOHESU Press Release on the NMA STRIKE by Joenz(m): 6:23pm On Jul 03, 2014
theexpected: During the last Nurses strike, medical students were drafted to také over the wards, they did all the nurses were supposed to do.
Change bedspreads, administer drugs, carry bedpans, name it d hospital ran very well


Even these lab pple u r talkin about self, most patients do not have money for the tests and they beg doctors to skip them. If a patients shows clinical signs of a disease i only confirm with a lab test not that i need it to make my diagnosis. And dt is if d patient has the money for it if not, i skip it
you my friend would have been in jail and your licence permanently revoked by now if ours was a sane society,you know it!

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Health / Re: JOHESU Press Release on the NMA STRIKE by Joenz(m): 5:12pm On Jul 03, 2014
FD_enigma: An Analysis of JOHESU (cont'd):

Medical Laboratory Scientists (Technologists?)

These are the arrow-heads of JOHESU. As a group, they have the free time, the resources and the lack of professionalism and empathy for suffering patients needed to start this controversy.

These staff are usually not university trained as their programmes are run by accredited teaching hospitals. They obtain memberships and fellowships of the institutes of Laboratory Science(or Technology) allowing them to work in Pathology laboratories.

Virtually all of these folks had the ambition of being medical doctors but could not meet the requirements.

In better countries than Nigeria, laboratories are headed by research scientists (in research institutes) and by consultant pathologists (in hospitals). Research scientists are typically Ph.D holders while consultant pathologists are medical doctors with postgraduate specializations in Pathology.

In Nigeria, they are quick to claim they do all the work in the laboratories o government hospitals. In their private practices, most masquerade as doctors, prescribing antibiotics and other drugs after spurious "Typhoid" tests.

Having grown wings, they fired the first salvo by declaring their right to perform accreditation for all labs in Nigeria including side-labs in private hospitals.

The next issue was preventing resident doctors in training from accessing the labs to carry out procedure (yet they claim they do all the work).

It got to the point, doctors were physically harassed and hounded by the Police and SSS on the instigation of these technologists. Luckily, most security agencies quickly washed their hands off this matter.

Nigeria is not the only country running a teaching hospital system. Let's look at the successful models in other countries and make things work. We shouldn't persons without direct involvement in patient care add to the many problems already facing our healthcare system.
hmmmmm,what can I say than to tell u to keep basking in the euphoria of ur delusion and idiocy.These same ppl were the ones u went humbly to to teach u many of the fings u knw today.This is d hallmark of trainees as I cn bet ur stl a student,but then hw do u reconcile this when even ur consultant pathologist cnt alter an ounce of all u spewed here coupled with d fact that these scientists av practically held d so called drs by hand,lifted them n showed the path to fulfilment in d medical field making them eternally greatful to d ones u av callously labelled technicians.Do continue in ur idiocy and we shall whr it lands u.
Health / Re: JOHESU Press Release on the NMA STRIKE by Joenz(m): 4:18pm On Jul 03, 2014
kennylawal: I swear all una never sick, na why u dey run mouth. If you wife wan born, carry am go lap radiology, physiotherapy or wetin u call am. All you hypocrites. If all johesu drop there work, doctors will do them, can they do doctors job. A doctor would hav done a posting in all those johesu fields as student too. they are working, respect. But the doctor and sirgeon are the most important experts in patient care. If you wana be like a doctor too, go take a jamb form and see that medical school no be beans
dis up thr is part of d public misinformatn upon wc d nigerian drs have fed so fat for far too long,a lot has to b done to properly inform n educate in masses on distinct responsibility of each profession.What is d business of a dr with a woman dat wan born biko?in one word,pls tell wat d mid-wives are being paid for. I await ur response if it will ever come.

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