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Christianity EtcRe: Are Men And Women Equal In God's Eyes? by johntredon: 5:48pm On Mar 16, 2017
OLAADEGBU:
Do you believe in the Bible you just quoted is true? undecided
don't tell me you don't read your bible
Foreign AffairsRe: Christianity Honours Women, Unlike Islamic Countries Where Women Have No Rights by johntredon: 5:40pm On Mar 16, 2017
If a woman gives birth to a baby boy, then she becomes unclean for 7 days. But if she gives birth to a baby girl, then she becomes unclean for 14 days.


N:B.So in other words, the birth of any female causes double the pollution:


Leviticus 12:2-5 "Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, If a woman have conceived seed, and born a MALE child: then she shall be unclean SEVEN DAYS; according to the days of the separation for her infirmity shall she be unclean. And in the eighth day the flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised. And she shall then continue in the blood of her purifying THIRTY THREE days; she shall touch no hallowed thing, nor come into the sanctuary, until the days of her purifying be fulfilled. But if she bear a FEMALE child, then she shall be unclean TWO WEEKS, as in her separation: and she shall continue in the blood of her purifying SIXTY SIX days."
Foreign AffairsRe: Christianity Honours Women, Unlike Islamic Countries Where Women Have No Rights by johntredon: 5:36pm On Mar 16, 2017
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OLAADEGBU:
You quoted the OT that guides the Jews in the middle east. Click on the suggested link to see how Israel is ranked as the best country for women in the Middle East. http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/178504
You are me telling that Old Testament not part of the Bible again but whenever you want to quote the tithe verses you people would remember Old Testament but when it comes to atrocities in the bible that's when it belongs to jews custom
Remember that Jesus said;
Jesus said he was sent to preach the Jewish Law (Matt. 5:17-20), and that was the purpose of his mission (Luk. 4:43, 19:10, Mk. 1:38) He praised the Jewish Law (Matt. 23:23
Foreign AffairsRe: Christianity Honours Women, Unlike Islamic Countries Where Women Have No Rights by johntredon: 5:19pm On Mar 15, 2017
1) Jesus considers women as dirt that defiles men (since Jesus, the GOD, is the one who supposedly inspired the New Testament as Christians claim):

Revelation 14:4 "Those are those (men) who did not defile themselves with women , for they kept themselves pure. They follow the Lamb wherever he goes. They were purchased from among men and offered as first fruits to God and the Lamb.


2). Women are not only spiritually defiling to men as Jesus put it, but they're also physically defiling when they have their menses. Anything they touch becomes unclean:

Leviticus 15:19-30 "And if a woman have an issue (her period/menses), [and] her issue in her flesh be blood, she shall be put apart seven days: and whosoever toucheth her shall be unclean until the even. And every thing that she lieth upon in her separation shall be unclean: every thing also that she sitteth upon shall be unclean. And whosoever toucheth her bed shall wash his clothes, and bathe [himself] in water, and be unclean until the even. And whosoever toucheth any thing that she sat upon shall wash his clothes, and bathe [himself] in water, and be unclean until the even. And if it [be] on [her] bed, or on any thing whereon she sitteth, when he toucheth it, he shall be unclean until the even. And if any man lie with her at all, and her flowers be upon him, he shall be unclean seven days; and all the bed whereon he lieth shall be unclean. And if a woman have an issue of her blood many days out of the time of her separation, or if it run beyond the time of her separation; all the days of the issue of her uncleanness shall be as the days of her separation: she [shall be] unclean. Every bed whereon she lieth all the days of her issue shall be unto her as the bed of her separation: and whatsoever she sitteth upon shall be unclean, as the uncleanness of her separation. And whosoever toucheth those things shall be unclean, and shall wash his clothes, and bathe [himself] in water, and be unclean until the even. But if she be cleansed of her issue, then she shall number to herself seven days, and after that she shall be clean. And on the eighth day she shall take unto her two turtles, or two young pigeons, and bring them unto the priest, to the door of the tabernacle of the congregation. And the priest shall offer the one [for] a sin offering, and the other [for] a burnt offering; and the priest shall make an atonement for her before the LORD for the issue of her uncleanness."
Foreign AffairsRe: Christianity Honours Women, Unlike Islamic Countries Where Women Have No Rights by johntredon: 10:00am On Mar 15, 2017
Let us look at how the Bible view women, and see in real Truth how terrible the women's status would be if they were living under a true Christian state that follows the Bible 100%.

If a husband finds at his wedding night that his wife is not a virgin, she will be stoned to death

Deuteronomy 22:13-21

13 “If any man takes a wife, and goes in to her, and then spurns her,
14 and charges her with shameful conduct, and brings an evil name upon her, saying, ‘I took this woman, and when I came near her, I did not find in her the tokens of virginity,’
15 then the father of the young woman and her mother shall take and bring out the tokens of her virginity to the elders of the city in the gate;
16 and the father of the young woman shall say to the elders, ‘I gave my daughter to this man to wife, and he spurns her;
17 and lo, he has made shameful charges against her, saying, “I did not find in your daughter the tokens of virginity.” And yet these are the tokens of my daughter’s virginity.’ And they shall spread the garment before the elders of the city.
18 Then the elders of that city shall take the man and whip him;
19 and they shall fine him a hundred shekels of silver, and give them to the father of the young woman, because he has brought an evil name upon a virgin of Israel; and she shall be his wife; he may not put her away all his days.
20 But if the thing is true, that the tokens of virginity were not found in the young woman,
21 then they shall bring out the young woman to the door of her father’s house, and the men of her city shall stone her to death with stones, because she has wrought folly in Israel by playing the harlot in her father’s house; so you shall purge the evil from the midst of you.
Christianity EtcRe: Are Men And Women Equal In God's Eyes? by johntredon: 8:48pm On Mar 14, 2017
Women and men are not equal in the bible, for example in Exodus 21:7-8 "

"And in case a man should sell his daughter as a slave girl , she will not go out in the way that the slave men go out. If she is displeasing in the eyes of her master so that he doesn't designate her as a concubine but causes her to be redeemed, he will not be entitled to sell her to a foreign people in his treacherously dealing with her."

N:B:
Here in this verse we can see that fathers can easily and freely sell their daughters as slaves to other men.
Christianity EtcRe: What Religion Did Jesus Practice? by johntredon: 7:51pm On Mar 13, 2017
jerrywill:
Na the christ na
ISLAM is arabic word which means surrender to d will of God, Those who practice religion of islam are called Muslim. Muslim is an arabic word and which means worshiper of none except Allah alone.

Also Allah is an Arabic word which means God, Supreme Being. In Hebrew language God means ELOHA but jews use plural form ELOHIM. It is not subject to plurality or gender. It is confusing to use the word God as many English-speaking Christian still consider Jesus as God, even the word creator is also confusing, as many christians still maintain that jesus had created the world.

If u can access to Arabic Bible that those christian arabs are using, you will see that God in that bible translate to Allah

Not only the name of Allah is strange, but also the way muslims worship Allah with ablution, bowing, kneeling, prostration and fasting is strange to non-muslim, but not strange to all prophets.

While ablution (washing of face, arms, feet and moistening of d hair) prior to worship is abandoned by modern christian, it is still required by muslim and previous prophets, as seen in the following passages of the Bible: Exodus 40:31-32
31 And Moses and Aaron and his sons washed their hands and their feet thereat:
32 When they went into the tent of the congregation, and when they came near unto the altar, they washed; as the Lord commanded Moses.

John 13:12-15
12 So after he had washed their feet, and had taken his garments, and was set down again, he said unto them, Know ye what I have done to you?
13 Ye call me Master and Lord: and ye say well; for so I am.
14 If I then, your Lord and Master, have washed your feet; ye also ought to wash one another's feet.
15 For I have given you an example, that ye should do as I have done to you.


Although Paul made many changes in jesus teaching, he was still faithful in respect to ablution(purification) as seen in Act 21:26;
26 Then Paul took the men, and the next day purifying himself with them entered into the temple, to signify the accomplishment of the days of purification, until that an offering should be offered for every one of them.


Muslim Women perform their prayer with their head covered as 1 cor 11:5, 6 and 13;
5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.

6 For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered.

13 Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto God uncovered?


Muslims worship with bowing, kneeling, prostration and without shoes as done by previous Prophet;
Psalm 95:6
6 O come, let us worship and bow down: let us kneel before the Lord our maker.

Joshua 5:14
14 And he said, Nay; but as captain of the host of the Lord am I now come. And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship, and said unto him, What saith my Lord unto his servant?

Nehemiah 8:4-6
4 And Ezra the scribe stood upon a pulpit of wood, which they had made for the purpose; and beside him stood Mattithiah, and Shema, and Anaiah, and Urijah, and Hilkiah, and Maaseiah, on his right hand; and on his left hand, Pedaiah, and Mishael, and Malchiah, and Hashum, and Hashbadana, Zechariah, and Meshullam.

5 And Ezra opened the book in the sight of all the people; (for he was above all the peoplewink and when he opened it, all the people stood up:

6 And Ezra blessed the Lord, the great God. And all the people answered, Amen, Amen, with lifting up their hands: and they bowed their heads, and worshipped the Lord with their faces to the ground.

Matthew 4:10
10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
Christianity EtcRe: What Religion Did Jesus Practice? by johntredon: 2:49pm On Mar 12, 2017
jerrywill:
Goodmorning and happy sunday to you all.
.
Who was Jesus? Was he a christian? A muslim? A jew? An athiest?
.
Give reasons for your answer
Which of the Jesus bcoz we have many Jesus in the bible ;

Acts 13:6-- And when they had gone through the isle unto Paphos, they found a certain sorcerer, a false prophet, a Jew, whose name was Barjesus:

OR

Colossians 4:11--And Jesus, which is called Justus, who are of the circumcision. These only are my fellowworkers unto the kingdom of God, which have been a comfort unto me.

OR

Matthew 1:1--The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.
CelebritiesRe: Is This Apostle Suleman's Car Parked At Daniella Okeke's House? (December 2016) by johntredon: 7:00am On Mar 11, 2017
Front page materials, let people see how men of god patronise prostitute woman and spend lavishly on them with members sweat
Christianity EtcRe: Men of God and women in bible by johntredon(op): 6:25am On Mar 11, 2017
Pls don't judge apostle sulaymon that's what Bible preached
IslamRe: Forms Of Gambling In Our Society Today by johntredon: 8:37pm On Dec 16, 2016
Borrowing airtime on your phone from Telecom's provider is also harram
CrimeRe: Ogun Pastor Rapes Teenager During "Anointing" by johntredon(op): 7:02pm On Nov 26, 2016
The pastor practically act according to what bibble preached,if you doubt me pls feel free to entertain yourself here:
https://www.nairaland.com/3355956/how-bible-view-women
CrimeOgun Pastor Rapes Teenager During "Anointing" by johntredon(op): 9:10am On Nov 26, 2016
The Ogun State Police Command has arrested a pastor, identified as Adekunle Francis, for allegedly raping a 17-year-old girl, simply identified as Dolapo.

Francis was arrested on November 22 at Ipamesan, Sango Ota, after he allegedly lured his victim into an uncompleted building under the pretext of praying for and anointing her.

He was said to have raped her until she passed out.


The pastor was paraded on Thursday before newsmen at the state police command headquarters.

Parading the suspect, the Police Public Relations Officer, PPRO, in the state, Abimbola Oyeyemi, said the victim reported her ordeal at the Sango Police Station.

According to him, the Divisional Police Officer, DPO, Akinsola Ogunwale, dispatched a team of detectives to the scene where the suspect was arrested.

The PPRO said, “On interrogation, the suspect confessed to the crime. He told policemen at the Sango Police Division that the act was the work of the devil.


“The state Commissioner of Police, CP, Ahmed Iliyasu, had ordered the immediate transfer of the case to the Anti-Human Trafficking and Child Labour Unit of the State Criminal Investigation and Intelligence Department, SCIID, Abeokuta, for further investigation,” he added.
http://dailypost.ng/2016/11/25/teenager-passes-pastor-raped-anointing-ogun/

CrimeOgun Pastor Rapes Teenager To Death During Annointing by johntredon(op): 8:49am On Nov 26, 2016
Ogun Pastor Rapes Teenager To Death During Annointing

November 26, 2016

The Ogun State Police Command has arrested a pastor, identified as Adekunle Francis, for allegedly raping a 17-year-old girl, simply identified as Dolapo.

Francis was arrested on November 22 at Ipamesan, Sango Ota, after he allegedly lured his victim into an uncompleted building under the pretext of praying for and anointing her.

He was said to have raped her until she passed out.

The pastor was paraded on Thursday before newsmen at the state police command headquarters.

Parading the suspect, the Police Public Relations Officer, PPRO, in the state, Abimbola Oyeyemi, said the victim reported her ordeal at the Sango Police Station.

According to him, the Divisional Police Officer, DPO, Akinsola Ogunwale, dispatched a team of detectives to the scene where the suspect was arrested.

The PPRO said, “On interrogation, the suspect confessed to the crime. He told policemen at the Sango Police Division that the act was the work of the devil.

“The state Commissioner of Police, CP, Ahmed Iliyasu, had ordered the immediate transfer of the case to the Anti-Human Trafficking and Child Labour Unit of the State Criminal Investigation and Intelligence Department, SCIID, Abeokuta, for further investigation,” he added




http://spynigeria.com/2016/11/26/ogun-pastor-rapes-teenager-death-annointing/
Foreign AffairsRe: . by johntredon: 10:42pm On Nov 24, 2016
Islamization of Canada on loading
Christianity EtcRe: US Election: TB Joshua Trending On Twitter by johntredon: 10:05am On Nov 09, 2016
Christianity and lies is like bread and butter
Foreign AffairsSaudi Arabia: Prince Executed For Murder by johntredon(op): 4:03pm On Oct 19, 2016
Saudi Arabia: Prince executed for murder

A statement from Saudi Arabia’s Ministry of Interior has confirmed on Tuesday it has carried out the execution orders on Prince Turki bin Saud al-Kabir.

The prince was found guilty three years ago by a Saudi court for murdering a young Saudi man following a group fight in al-Thumama region in the outskirts of Riyadh.

The statement said that "Turki bin Saud al-Kabir killed Saudi citizen Adel bin Suleiman bin Abdul Karim Mohaimeed."

The statement added that "authorities were able to arrest the above mentioned offender. After the investigations, they charged him of committing the crime and his indictment was sent to the General Court. He was charged with what was attributed to him and sentenced to death as retribution."

The Court of Appeal and the Supreme Court both agreed on the indictment. A Royal Decree was issued for the implementation of the court’s rule.

The victim’s family refused offers of ‘blood money’ and demanded justice be carried out.

The statement added that the Interior Ministry confirmed “King Salman’s keenness on enforcement of security, justice and God's judgments.”

It also warned “that legitimate punishment would be the fate of whoever tries to assault innocent people and shed their blood”.



http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2016/10/18/Saudi-Arabia-Prince-executed-for-murder-crime.html#.WAZrVp_5XKs.facebook
Christianity EtcRe: Question For Muslim by johntredon: 2:00pm On Oct 02, 2016
ajiboye007:
u said .....

Deuteronomy 21:15 clearly states: "If a man has two wives , and he loves one but not the other, and both bear him sons...."

And also Exodus 21:10 allows a man to marry an infinite amount of women without any limits to how many he can have.

#RESPONSE

have addressed this before . God is addressing issues of polygamy among Israelite which they have been into before the law was given.
[[this is where you shoot yourself, when Jesus said he comes to follow the law of Israelite Jesus said: "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law (the Old Testament) or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke or a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law (the Old Testament) until everything is accomplished. (Matthew 5:17-18) "

and also he said: He [Jesus] answered, ' I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel. 'Matthew 15:22-28)]
ajiboye007:
u said .....

Deuteronomy 21:15 clearly states: "If a man has two wives , and he loves one but not the other, and both bear him sons...."

And also Exodus 21:10 allows a man to marry an infinite amount of women without any limits to how many he can have.

#RESPONSE

have addressed this before . God is addressing issues of polygamy among Israelite which they have been into before the law was given.
[this is where you shoot yourself, when Jesus said he comes to follow the law of Israelite Jesus said: "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law (the Old Testament) or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke or a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law (the Old Testament) until everything is accomplished. (Matthew 5:17-18) "

and also he said: He [Jesus] answered, ' I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel. 'Matthew 15:22-28)
ajiboye007:
u said .....

Deuteronomy 21:15 clearly states: "If a man has two wives , and he loves one but not the other, and both bear him sons...."

And also Exodus 21:10 allows a man to marry an infinite amount of women without any limits to how many he can have.

#RESPONSE


have show what God said in genesis 2:24 ,but u think that is not ur business . i show u from PROVERBS 5:17-19 and MALACHI 2:14 those verses doesn't concern you, yet u are still asking me to show us where God prohibited polygamy! what do u make out of verses i have presented you ?
those verses were not prohibited polygamy
Christianity EtcRe: Question For Muslim by johntredon: 11:34am On Oct 02, 2016
M
ajiboye007:
u said ........

My question now is can you show me where in the Bible where God prohibits polygamy

#RESPONSE

genesis 2:23-24
unless u want tag God as a lair ........

also

PROVERBS 5:17-19
17 Let them be yours ALONE And not for strangers with you. 18 Let your fountain be blessed, And rejoice
in the WIFE(not wives) of your youth. 19 As a loving hind and a graceful doe, Let her breasts satisfy you at all times; Be exhilarated always with her love.

MALACHI 2:14
But you ask, "Why [aren't our offerings accepted]?" It is because the LORD is a witness between you and the WIFE (not wives) of your youth, to whom you have been unfaithful. Yet, she is your companion, the wife of your marriage vows.
Show me direct verses where God prohibits polygamy

Beside, how can you suggest that the Bible prohibited polygamy when for instance

Deuteronomy 21:15 clearly states: "If a man has two wives , and he loves one but not the other, and both bear him sons...."

And also Exodus 21:10 allows a man to marry an infinite amount of women without any limits to how many he can have.

Do Paul's 1 Timothy 3:2 and 1 Timothy 3:12 prove that polygamy is prohibited in the Bible?
Christianity EtcRe: Question For Muslim by johntredon: 10:48am On Oct 02, 2016
ajiboye007:
in quran there is a place allah commended muslims on the number of wives they can marry .................
but muslim have beengoing around misinterpreting mis quoting the bible on issue of polygamy, they claim bible and God support polygamy..............

my question is, if God true support polygamy , it will be my pleasure if any muslim could show me where God in bible give commands on numbers of wives to be marry as suppose god of quran did ?

in the beginning God create one man and one woman clearly says one man one woman and the two become one .......if God want or support polygamy as muslim want us to believe, God would have lay the foundation by creating more than one woman for adam .

ITS A SERIOUS MATTER ...........
The only place I really see polygamy prohibited is in the requirements to be a bishop and a deacon where Paul mentions that to hold either office a man must only be married to one wife (1Tim. 3:1-12).

Here, Paul does not label polygamy as sinful but simply prohibits a polygamist from holding these two offices. Simple rational could account for the banning of polygamists from these offices, since a man with only one wife would be much more available to the responsibilities versus a man with more than one wife.

The fact that Paul did not make a general statement condemning polygamy tells me that it is allowed for others if they are not leaders in the Church or deacons (read verse 12):
12 Let deacons be the husband of one wife, and let them manage their children and their households well;


My question now is can you show me where in the Bible where God prohibits polygamy
Christianity EtcRe: [video]i Am A Virgin. When I Pray To God, It Goes Straight To Him He Answers Me. by johntredon:
I don't blame the pastor o because Bible said they should stone the woman who is not virgin at d wedding night

Deuteronomy 22:13-21

13 “If any man takes a wife, and goes in to her, and then spurns her, 14 and charges her with shameful conduct, and brings an evil name upon her, saying, ‘I took this woman, and when I came near her, I did not find in her the tokens of virginity,’ 15 then the father of the young woman and her mother shall take and bring out the tokens of her virginity to the elders of the city in the gate; 16 and the father of the young woman shall say to the elders, ‘I gave my daughter to this man to wife, and he spurns her; 17 and lo, he has made shameful charges against her, saying, “I did not find in your daughter the tokens of virginity.” And yet these are the tokens of my daughter’s virginity.’ And they shall spread the garment before the elders of the city. 18 Then the elders of that city shall take the man and whip him; 19 and they shall fine him a hundred shekels of silver, and give them to the father of the young woman, because he has brought an evil name upon a virgin of Israel; and she shall be his wife; he may not put her away all his days. 20 But if the thing is true, that the tokens of virginity were not found in the young woman, 21 then they shall bring out the young woman to the door of her father’s house, and the men of her city shall stone her to death with stones, because she has wrought folly in Israel by playing the harlot in her father’s house; so you shall purge the evil from the midst of you.
Christianity EtcRe: Men of God and women in bible by johntredon(op): 5:19pm On Oct 01, 2016
If a husband finds at his wedding night that his wife is not a virgin, she will be stoned to death

Deuteronomy 22:13-21

13 “If any man takes a wife, and goes in to her, and then spurns her,
14 and charges her with shameful conduct, and brings an evil name upon her, saying, ‘I took this woman, and when I came near her, I did not find in her the tokens of virginity,’
15 then the father of the young woman and her mother shall take and bring out the tokens of her virginity to the elders of the city in the gate;
16 and the father of the young woman shall say to the elders, ‘I gave my daughter to this man to wife, and he spurns her;
17 and lo, he has made shameful charges against her, saying, “I did not find in your daughter the tokens of virginity.” And yet these are the tokens of my daughter’s virginity.’ And they shall spread the garment before the elders of the city.
18 Then the elders of that city shall take the man and whip him;
19 and they shall fine him a hundred shekels of silver, and give them to the father of the young woman, because he has brought an evil name upon a virgin of Israel; and she shall be his wife; he may not put her away all his days.
20 But if the thing is true, that the tokens of virginity were not found in the young woman,
21 then they shall bring out the young woman to the door of her father’s house, and the men of her city shall stone her to death with stones, because she has wrought folly in Israel by playing the harlot in her father’s house; so you shall purge the evil from the midst of you.
Christianity EtcRe: My Favourite Bible Passage: The Palm Tree by johntredon: 6:50am On Sep 26, 2016
That's how Bible ridiculed women, I can imagine how GOd revealed those passages

https://www.nairaland.com/3355956/how-bible-view-women
Christianity EtcRe: The Work Of Jesus On Earth Assigned By God by johntredon(op): 6:48am On Sep 25, 2016
Jesus taught the very opposite of what Christianity teaches today. The purpose of Jesus’ mission was to preach the law, not to be crucified. He taught salvation came through observing the Law, and not by the ‘eloquent words’ of the later Church. Jesus declared in Matthew 5:17-20

Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach [them], the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Jesus came to uphold the Mosaic Law and restore its teachings which had been discarded; he never founded a new religion. The followers of Jesus regarded him as the ‘new Moses’ sent to the Children of Israel. Jesus declared he was only sent to the Jews.
Christianity EtcThe Work Of Jesus On Earth Assigned By God by johntredon(op): 8:01am On Sep 24, 2016
Most Christians today believe that if a person doesn't believe that Jesus died on the cross for his/her sins, then there is not even the least chance for that person to enter Paradise.

Let us look at what Jesus said in John 17:1-10:

1. After Jesus said this, he looked toward heaven and prayed:
2. "Father, the time has come. Glorify your Son, that your Son may glorify you. For you granted him authority over all people that he might give eternal life to all those you have given him.
3. Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.

4. I have brought you glory on earth by completing the work you gave me to do.

5. And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began.
6. "I have revealed you to those whom you gave me out of the world. They were yours; you gave them to me and they have obeyed your word.
7. Now they know that everything you have given me comes from you.
8. For I gave them the words you gave me and they accepted them. They knew with certainty that I came from you, and they believed that you sent me.
9. I pray for them. I am not praying for the world, but for those you have given me, for they are yours.
10. All I have is yours, and all you have is mine. And glory has come to me through them.


As we clearly see in John 17:4, Jesus declared the completion of his work that GOD Almighty had assigned to him on earth.

What were the work that God assigned to Jesus Christ on earth?
Christianity EtcRe: Men of God and women in bible by johntredon(op): 4:05pm On Sep 23, 2016
Numbers 31: 17-18

17. Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.

18. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.


The Jewish soldiers were commanded by “God” in the bible to keep the woman children (little girls) for themselves! In addition, they commanded to kill every woman that hath know a man by lying with him. How these soldiers in those days know if the girls are virgin or not? Simply they verify it by raping them and if the Jews discovered that they are non-virgins then they kill them as they commanded by “God”.
Christianity EtcRe: Men of God and women in bible by johntredon(op): 6:58am On Sep 23, 2016
Leviticus 20:15 "If a man has sexual relations with an animal, he must be put to death, and you must kill the animal."

Let us look at Leviticus 20:16 "If a woman approaches an animal to have sexual relations with it, kill both the woman and the animal. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads."


Notice that in Leviticus 20:15 the man has to be caught having sex with an animal in order for him to be put to death. We have to be sure 100% beyond the shadow of the doubt to kill him.


Notice however in Leviticus 20:16 that if a woman only looks SUSPICIOUS and not necessarily get caught having sex with an animal, she would still be put to death. We do not have to be sure 100% beyond the shadow of the doubt with her in order for us to kill her.


It is beyond question that Leviticus 20:15 and
Leviticus 20:16 prove that the Bible prefers to put women to death whenever an opportunity presents itself!
Christianity EtcRe: Men of God and women in bible by johntredon(op): 10:09pm On Sep 22, 2016
The Jesus said in Matt 5:17-20:

Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.....)

The question now is, what are the law to follow according to Jesus Christ? That is another topic.
Christianity EtcRe: Men of God and women in bible by johntredon(op):
adjoviomole:
Jeramiah 31:31-34
Behold, days are coming," declares the LORD,
"when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and
with the house of Judah, not like the covenant which I made
with their fathers in the day I took them by the hand to bring
them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke,
although I was a husband to them," declares the LORD. "But this
is the covenant which I will make with the house of Israel after
those days," declares the LORD, "I will put My law within them
and on their heart I will write it; and I will be their God, and they
shall be My people. They will not teach again, each man his
neighbor and each man his brother, saying, 'Know the LORD,'
for they will all know Me, from the least of them to the greatest
of them," declares the LORD, "for I will forgive their iniquity,
and their sin I will remember no more." "
irrelevant to the topic.
adjoviomole:
We became dead to the
Old Law, so that we might be joined to a New Law (Romans
7:4-6).
Who reported this verses? I asked u to give me evidence where Jesus said law must not follow. I need Jesus statement ]
adjoviomole:
the Old Law
was nailed to the cross (Colossians 2:14). In Ephesians 2:15, we
are told that it was put to death on the cross.

Hence the law change when Jesus was nailed to the cross. Thank you.
If master says a word and servant says a word but both contradict each other, the best option is to take a word of the master.

Jesus is the master here bcoz you people believe him as God and son of God. The master (Jesus) now said in Matt 5:17-20:

Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.....)

The master didn't stop there and later said if christians want to enter paradise they must follow the law.

"So just as the tares are gathered up and burned with fire, so shall it be at the end of the age. The Son of Man will send forth His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all stumbling blocks, and those who commit lawlessness, and will throw them into the furnace of fire; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. (Matthew 13:40-42)


Also:
"And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE
LAWLESSNESS.' (Matthew 7:23,)

"So you, too, outwardly appear righteous to men, but inwardly you are full of hypocrisy and
lawlessness. (Matthew 23:28)


Please follow the law of Jesus and those law in Old Testament for you not to enter hell fire
Christianity EtcRe: Men of God and women in bible by johntredon(op): 2:10pm On Sep 22, 2016
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Christianity EtcRe: Men of God and women in bible by johntredon(op): 10:52pm On Sep 21, 2016
adjoviomole:
We are followers of Jesus the son of God and not moses.

Jesus said" I am the way the truth and the life, no man commeth unto the father (God) but by me. So since Jesus is the way, we don't need to start looking for a window when we have the key to the door (jesus)
Don't dodge my question, let me repeat it. Can you show me in the Bible where Jesus said you should not follow the law?
Christianity EtcRe: Men of God and women in bible by johntredon(op): 10:35pm On Sep 21, 2016
adjoviomole:
The 10 commandment shey? We are no longer in the time of the law n judgment, we are in the time of grace. During the time of the law, ppl caught in the act of adultery are stoned to death, but. When jesus came, he abolished that and instead wen a woman was caught in adultery and brot to him to be stoned to death, Jesus told the ppl dat bro her dat if der is anyone amongst dem who have nevr sinned, the person shld throw the 1st stone, but nobody could stone her because dey wer all guilty too. Jesus den told her dat he does nt condemn her,but she should go and sin no more.
can you tell me where Jesus said you should not follow the law in the Bible?

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