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of course

nattyspice:
Yahweh inclusive

0temSapien:
Actually, dead gods all exist in other places. Living souls don't ceasebto exist. Once you exist, you exist forever and ever. Currently, Yahweh is captured, alongside thousands of gods of religions, in a spiritual cage.

the ramblings of the deluded

Isa_43:10  Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD(YAHWEH), and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.

^^^ speaking of the true God
of course there are many false gods
otem is one of them, nutty could be another

nattyspice:
My brother we plenty,but seriously otem is a genius.All the gods mentioned in his writing existed.

now they are dead, no longer exist, some gods

there are many false god's
your dog can be your god if you want

OneJ:
Jesus himself said Yahweh is "the Only true God, (John 17:3) The Most High God, Yahweh/ Jehovah (Psalms 83:18),

yes YAHWEH is the only true God, the Most High
God and the Word is the only true God, the Most High, john 1:1

OneJ: the ALMIGHTY God.
Has Yahweh said his sons are Almighty God?

Jesus said I am the Alpha and Omega, and He-God inspired john to call Him the Almighty:

Rev 1:8  I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.


you false jw's: onej, cry, tat, love to ignore-disbelieve God's word
oh you people-church of satan

TATIME:
Just say "Jehovah's Witnesses doctrines contradicts that of today's churches" but regarding what the Bible REALLY teach, there is nothing as in NOTHING that Jehovah's Witnesses omitted!
All those churches are following the pattern of their human founder and when the founder dies his/her predecessors continues with whatever he/she lays down as doctrines for them,they only opt for other fast money making techniques and filling the places of worship with crowd.
But Jehovah's Witnesses have changed so many things that the said founder started with during the late nineteenth centuries, this made me believe that the group belongs not to Russell but to someone far greater than Charles Taze Russell!
Certainly the group is following ONE invisible person who is changing all the manmade doctrines that those forerunners of the group couldn't figure out during their lifetime! That's why Jehovah's Witnesses have been able to standout as the One and Only different group from all the religions of the world! John 17:14-19

false jw do stand out from all the other religions
no other religions have made all the failed false prophecies as false jw church have made

want to see some? you can read them yourself in old false jw publications

OneJ:
Did U actually read the crap U just posted ? Yahweh said his sons are gods. Ps82:6.
A fact confirmed by Apostle Paul
1 Cor7:5,6.
Did Yahweh call his sons false gods? No
Yahweh alone is the only true God , Jesus Christ said so (John 17:3).

the Father is the only true God
the Father and the Word is the only true God, john 1:1 and much more
but you not believing God's word will clearly never understand or know

OneJ: Because Yahweh is the Most High God,the ALMIGHTY God.
OMG, what happened to your brain ?

I'm not surprised..
Apostle Paul said " not everyone knows this" (1 Cor 8:7a).

he was talking about you, you don't know this, or anything

TATIME:
I don't worry about whatever they say my brother because i've been a Muslim before and i can remember how i usually treat evangelizers back then. But now that i'm a Christian, i only pity them because i can testify that they have burning zeal for God but not according to accurate knowledge. Just imagine Christians arguing furiously but can't point to a religious group that's practicing what they want the person they're arguing with to notice their activities and get the sense of true Christianity. Yet they're arguing bitterly with intense annoyance. Romans 10:2,3

i have heard of people leaving a false faith just to go to another false faith
it's amazing, antichrists will never find the truth

OneJ:
Yahweh said "You are gods",you are all sons of the Most High" Psalms 82:6. (sons ,plural)
Jesus Christ quoted Psalms 82:6 and said "I am God's Son" John 10:34-36.
Therefore, Jesus Christ. is a god because God's sons are gods.
Yahweh never said his sons are false gods.
Because U refused to swallow your pride & accept the bitter pill of truth, U & your crew of LIARS are the ones who "makes Jesus a false god"
Una mumu done do !!

oh false jw onej of no understanding
the word in the flesh is called the Son of God
His Spirit is of course God, not "a god" hence "a false god"
a child could understand that, but not the blinded false jw's

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

plus read all the other scriptures i have posted showing that the Word Jesus Christ is God


you don't believe them mumu man, i know

TATIME:
If you can't point to the religious group that's unitedly following the pattern of the first century Christians today then you're either saying Jesus has no united subjects or Jesus is a confusionist.
We strongly believe that our Master,Lord and King Jesus Christ has been enthroned in heaven and He is directing the activities of His earthly followers,who are doing everything He commanded them with oneness of speech and thought. 1Corinthians 1:10 Philippians 2:2

you false jw tat of course cannot stop lying
the Master, Lord and King Jesus Christ is not "a god" hence "a false god" as you lie and say

you say anything to try and show yourself righteous
but you keep showing yourself to be a pharisee hypocrite

TATIME:
Hmmmmmmmmmm well,true Christianity is about maturity,deep respect and mild temper. 1Peter 3:15
You can say whatever you like since it's your nature of response to thought provoking questions, but if you're not ready to distinguish or point out the religious group that's following Jesus' footsteps today i guess there is no need disturbing your brains.
But know today that the only reason that the Pharisees and other religious groups in ancient Israel were persecuting the Christians is because they were claiming to be the one and only source to divine wisdom,therefore if you can't say the same thing but antagonising the group making such claim then i'll take it that you belong to that ancient persecutors of Christians. Because they can't point to a single platform for divine wisdom whereas the Christians on the other hand kept saying "ONLY we have the truth".

the false jw church are the modern day pharisees
pharisees blasphemed Jesus saying He did his miracled by the spirit of satan

false jw pharisees blaspheme Jesus saying He is "a god" hence "a false god"

Jesus said in three days i will raise this temple(His body)
false jw say Jesus body wasn't raised

no diffrence between lying pharisees then and now

Crysthaniel:
in Jesus Case at Revelation 1:​17, 18 and 2:8. In these verses, the context shows that the one referred to died and later returned to life. Thus, these verses cannot refer to God because he has never died. (Habakkuk 1:​12) However, Jesus died and was resurrected. (Acts 3:​13-​15) He was the first human to be resurrected to immortal spirit life in heaven, where he now lives “forever and ever.” (Revelation 1:​18; Colossians 1:​18) Jesus is the one who performs all resurrections thereafter. (John 6:​40, 44) Therefore, he was the last one to be resurrected directly by Jehovah. (Acts 10:40) In this sense, Jesus can properly be called “the First and the Last.

At Isaiah 44:6, Jehovah says: “I am the first and I am the last. There is no God but me.” Here Jehovah highlights that he is the everlasting true God; besides him, there is no other. (Deuteronomy 4:​35, 39) In this case, then, the expression “the first and the last” has the same meaning as “the Alpha and the Omega

oh very confused know nothing cry
you false jw's have said the Alpha and Omega is the Father only

now that i have shown that the Alpha and Omega is also the Son(God and the Word is God, john 1:1)

you now say the Alpha and Omega(one like the Son of man) is not God


you false jw's never stop lying, particularly concerning God's word



God of course never died, the man did-his flesh, not His Spirit,
the word became flesh duh

Crysthaniel:
that's it Bro .
Imagine this...
if Jesus is God..so when he died then Jehovah is Dead and Holy spirit is Dead too
so what now ressurect them all ?

ha ha

oh boy there is nothing between your ears at all

the man-Jesus died of course His Spirit-God never, and cannot

Crysthaniel:
Then Jesus said to him: “Go away, Satan! For it is written: ‘It is Jehovah your God you must worship, and it is to him alone you must render sacred service.’” Matt 4:10

Jesus can't say this things if he's the father(Jehovah)

python man
you blinded false jw's can never see it

duh, no the Son is not the Father, but both are God YAHWEH

God and the Word is God, john 1:1, and many other verses showing that the Word-Jesus Christ is God
which i have posted and which you cannot understand and don't believe because you have been blinded for hating the truth and loving the lies that satans mob teach you

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

OneJ:
The word had a beginning just as the heavens had a beginning.

oh duh false jw, you think there was a time when God was without Wisdom,
when he was without His Word
the Word may have had a beginning outside of God as a seperate person(theory)
but many christians say: first born and the beginning, means pre emminent etc. they may be right

but that He is "a god" hence "a false god" as false jw's say is only true of their god satan

the word Jesus cannot have been created when He Jesus, created all things that were created
get a brain mumu man

Joh 1:3  All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

maybe you think He made Himself 

but He certinally always existed in God

the Almighty(God and the Word) had no beginning, oh duh satans people

OneJ: Yahweh is not Jesus Christ.

JESUS
Act 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

YAHWEH
Isa 43:11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.

OneJ:
Mumu LIAR.

"To him (Jesus) who loves us & has made us... to serve his God and Father" Rev 1:5,6.

Rev 1:8 says the Lord God, Yahweh , the Almighty. who has "given all authority in heaven and on the earth " (Matt28:18) to Jesus Christ to bear the same title( Rev22:13)

Mumu LIAR.
Yahweh is not Jesus Christ.

"To him (Jesus) who loves us & has made us... to serve his God and Father" Rev 1:5,6.

Rev 1:8 says the Lord God, Yahweh , the Almighty. who has "given all authority in heaven and on the earth " (Matt28:18) to Jesus Christ to bear the same title( Rev22:13. )

lost jw onej, it's common for you who love to lie to say the same thing twice
it makes you think iit's the truth

i posted this:

johnw47:
mumu man onej, i copy God's word, and of course you don't believe it

Alpha and Omega is Jesus Christ, john called Him "the Almighty"
Rev 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

and i have given other verses showing it to be true

and your reply to the truth and to God's word is "MUMU LIAR"

of course i don't matter, but who but satans people - satans church would call God MUMU LIAR



once again for the blinded onej:

verse 8, Jesus said I am Alpha and Omega, John added "the Almighty"

Rev 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

verses 9 & 10, john was in patmos for the testimony of Jesus Christ and heard a voice behind Him

verse 11, the voice-Jesus again said: I am Alpha and Omega

Rev 1:11  Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.

verses 12 & 13 john turned to see who was speaking and saw one like the Son of man  

Rev 1:12  And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks; 
Rev 1:13  And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man


okay satans people onej, you are now free again to call God and His word "MUMU LIAR"

OneJ:
cc : @ zodiakzax , U done run away ?

from you!

delusion

OneJ:
"Brought Forth" is synonymous with "parturition" ( to produce offspring) put that sense into your mumu brain.
Your last paragraph ( " God bringing forth Wisdom ...is not described as creating him.". is proof that U & where U copy the stuff, una be confirmed mumu.

How did Yahweh bring forth creation ?

https://biblehub.com/greek/5453.htm
Definition: Bring forth, produce.
2. to beget,bring forth,produce, to be born

Jesus is "the beginning of the creation of God," Rev 3:14. (Prov 8:22-30)
"(Jesus Christ) is the FIRST BORN of all creation" ( Col 1:15 ) created by Yahweh, his God & Father.

Be humble and let the truth reset your mumu brain .

mumu man onej, i copy God's word, and of course you don't believe it

Alpha and Omega is Jesus Christ, john called Him "the Almighty"
Rev 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

OneJ:
"Brought Forth" is synonymous with "parturition" ( to produce offspring) put that sense into your mumu brain.
Your last paragraph ( " God bringing forth Wisdom ...is not described as creating him.". is proof that U & where U copy the stuff, una be confirmed mumu.

How did Yahweh bring forth creation ?

https://biblehub.com/greek/5453.htm
Definition: Bring forth, produce.
2. to beget,bring forth,produce, to be born

Jesus is "the beginning of the creation of God," Rev 3:14. (Prov 8:22-30)
"(Jesus Christ) is the FIRST BORN of all creation" ( Col 1:15 ) created by Yahweh, his God & Father.

Be humble and let the truth reset your mumu brain .

ha ha you have no understanding at all oh confused false jw onej

first you said that the word was created
now you say that the Word was the first born, that is begat pea brain, not created
which is the theory i put forth and which you of course couldn't understand
even if you had half a brain

you are confused, blinded, without true knowledge,
and most of all mumu man you false jw's are your god satans people, and you are your god satans church

poor tormented onej

TATIME:
Well it's like you don't get it.
Jesus is God or Jesus is god is not the problem my friend, the main problem is that thousands of religious groups are calling the same name whereas it is His TEACHING that matters!
So again,which of all those saying Jesus is Almighty God or god is PRACTICING exactly what Jesus asked His followers to be doing?
For your information Muslims believe in Jesus but are have nothing to do with His teaching, rather they're following the teaching of an Arabian whose name only appeared in the Qur'an 4 times whereas Jesus name appeared more than 25 times,His mother's name is the only female name that's given special attention and a chapter is called Surat Mariam in the Qur'an also another chapter is titled "the family of Mariam" therefore is a Muslim fails to ask what exactly did Jesus taught back then certainly such a person is fooling himself or herself.
Again "WHAT EXACTLY DID JESUS TEACH PEOPLE BACK THEN AND WHAT IS THE NAME OF THE RELIGIOUS GROUP FOLLOWING HIS FOOTSTEPS TODAY?" That's the most important question any right thinking individual would like to know the answer!

oh laughing fool tat
of course you don't believe the truth i say, and God's word that i post
and you don't respond to it, but rather talk bull which is typical of tatime

i will post more scriptures soon on Jesus being God,
and on almighty and mighty God being one God and not two,
and i will post on how Jesus body was resurrected, all for you false jw tat and OneJ to also reject

Ecc_7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool: this also is vanity.

TATIME:
The one who opened the thread has done his part and if he is right or wrong, ONLY God can judge him.
According to his post Jehovah's Witnesses are doing a fine work but if you're of a contrary opinion, then present a better religious group that's doing finer than the JWs!

well that's easy, all the religious groups that say the Word is God is doing a finer job than false jw's who say:
Jesus is "a god", and as there is only one true God then hence "a false god"

TATIME: When Jesus' disciples were directing people's attention to their Master's teachings what the Pharisees supposed to do is direct honesthearted individuals to a better source of divine wisdom but instead all they were doing is criticizing, antagonising and persecuting Christians.
So if you guys are for Jesus and you are aware that there are false religious groups claiming Christians everywhere just as Jesus Himself foretold, i suppose what you're to do is point to the group that's CLOSELY following Jesus' footsteps.
No right thinking banker will be wasting precious times on how to prove a currency or another is fake, all what a reasonable banker will do is PRESENT the ORIGINAL or legal tender before everyone so that any other currencies not having all its features is fake for certain.
The OP has presented the group that's accurately following Jesus' footsteps to the best of his understanding, why not present a better option instead of all these unwarranted and baseless arguments?
For your information, no sane individual will be interested when you're going out crying with all your voice and shouting "This is fake, that is fake"

ha ha lying dramatics, but expected from lying false jw tat
and exactly, no sane individual would say Jesus is a fake god, but you do tat

TATIME: rather what any intellectual will expect of you is "This is the ORIGINAL"

yes again, exactly, and here is the original:

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

and i have many verses to show that the Word the Lord Jesus Christ is God, but you false jw don't have a single verse to show that the Word is "a fake god"

TATIME:

^^^ the mark of the fool, a fool laughs and laughs and laughs at anything and everything:

Ecc_7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool: this also is vanity.

OneJ:
God brought him forth (The dictionary told me taught me "BROUGHT FORTH" means created,)
See your lies

@bold, i see yours


Pro 8:24  When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.


i was brought forth
H2342
חִיל    חוּל
chûl    chı̂yl
khool, kheel
A primitive root; properly to twist or whirl (in a circular or spiral manner), that is, (specifically) to dance, to writhe in pain (especially of parturition) or fear; figuratively to wait, to pervert: - bear, (make to) bring forth, (make to) calve, dance, drive away, fall grievously (with pain), fear, form, great, grieve, (be) grievous, hope, look, make, be in pain, be much (sore) pained, rest, shake, shapen, (be) sorrow (-ful), stay, tarry, travail (with pain), tremble, trust, wait carefully (patiently), be wounded.
Total KJV occurrences: 58


they are the meanings that chûl chı̂yl can be used for

God bringing forth Wisdom-the Word from Himself is not described as creating Him,
but is described figuratively as a painful event similar in some way to bringing a child forth out of a woman

OneJ:
U are " thinking Jesus had a beginning as a separate person"
God brought him forth (The dictionary told me taught me "BROUGHT FORTH" means created,)
See your lies " God brought him forth from himself, being God's own spirit , he has always existed"
Yet U are " (I'm ) thinking Jesus had a beginning"

Lol......
Leave your mumu doctrine make your brain reset your sense

ha ha oh false jw onej, God's Spirit was not created

and posting the same thing twice won't make you right oh duh one


@ bold, not "had a beginning" but "may have had a beginning as a seperate person"
oh confuse blinded mumu man with no understanding:

2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

OneJ:
What did Rev 3:12,14 & 21 say about your mumu doctrine, Trinity?
pls give your response to my posers :
Where in your Bible did Jesus give authority or command to Yahweh?
The God & Father of Jesus is Yahweh. John 20:17. Eph 1:2,3, Mr man, who is the God of Yahweh? Why is it that Yahweh has no God?

oh false jw onej of no understanding, also known as mr. mumu


and i have already replied about Rev 3:12,14 & 21, oh blinded one:

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

OneJ:
@johnw47,
the falsified KJV insertion in Rev 1:11 ,the fake verse u dey take parole your mumu doctrine.
A little research would have saved u from that forgery u are posted here.

john turned around to see who it was that said: "I am Alpha and Omega"
and He saw one like unto "the Son of man"

ha ha oh false jw onej

zodiakzax:
Yep just read your posts.. kindly do show them..I leave that to you
.. onej I guess went to Mumu class since all he knows is mumu, he can't accurately defend his case without calling someone mumu.. all he says is mumu, May be that's what you are being taught..

he just talking about himself

just a little to get started, this below is Jesus talking, actually it is the angel of the Lord, the angel of Jesus,
representing Jesus as if it were Jesus Himself speaking, just as the angel of the Lord represented God, speaking as if He were God to moses

Rev 1:11  Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.[/b]


Rev 1:12  And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks; 
Rev 1:13  And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man....

mind you the above alone is proof that Alpha and Omega is the Son of man



and the angel of the Lord representing Jesus further said:

Rev 1:18  I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

^^^ see again Alpha and Omega is Jesus




i missed a bit:

Rev 1:8  I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

^^^ john called Jesus "the Almighty" 

well it turns out that my intro. is basically it, i may add more later
as lying false jw disbelieve and change the meaning of God's word

zodiakzax, false jw's deny that the Word Jesus Christ is the Alpha and Omega
they say the Alpha and Omega is Almighty God

well He is, i will show that to
coming later this morning

zodiakzax:
So in effect they beleive in 2 gods, but that's a problem because Yahweh said He's the only God and apart from Him there's none.. so this then makes Christ a false god then...

yes, there is only one true God, so all other god's are false god's

false jw say Jesus is "a god" so that would make Him "a false god" to false jw's

OneJ:
Author of mumu posts.
U have cited Rev 3:7-22
What did Rev 3:12,14,21 say about your mumu doctrine, Trinity ?

oh duh false jw onej, father of mumu's

verse 12 Father is Jesus God, what is your problem with that?

verse 14 i'm thinking that Jesus had a beginning as a seperate person to god
God bought Him forth from Himself
being God's own spirit He has always existed,
other christians have diffrent and good ideas on that also,
but of course it's lengthy and i won't be wasting time on you unbelieving false jw onej

verse 21 Jesus sit's with Father on Fathers throne, supporting john 1:1 God and the Word is God

when paul was talking about churches of the saints, he certainly wasn't talking
of a prelude to the false jw church there

beliefs of Jesus being "a god" - "a false god"
and there being two god's, a almighty God and a mighty god
and Jesus body not being resurrected
these are all foreign to paul, and are not in God's word
paul would rightly like me, call that church the church of satan:

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

zodiakzax:
Where is OneJ

hiding, hoping you will go away

OneJ:
Cherry picking are duz U no good.
"By the power of his spirit, the LORD GOD has sent me". (CEV)

"And now the Sovereign Lord has sent me, endowed with his spirit" (NIV)

"The LORD GOD has sent me, accompanied by his spirit" (BSB)

" Now the Lord Yahweh has sent me, with his spirit" (WEB)

Isaiah 48:16 are pour San San for the garri of Trinitarian claims U dey yarn for here.
KJV has many forgeries & spurious insertions , that's why peddlers of Trinity fancy it so much.

of course cherry picking does no good, because you and tat have shown that
you don't believe any of what God said that goes against your false beliefs