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..yes.... Now I am God so I will tell him how Jesus was begotten.. I have a penis on my right thigh and vagina on my left thigh, and then after I did myself I layed egg, and out of the egg Jesus came out... .... such stupidity.....

which leads me to the question,
which came first, the chicken or the egg

answer
Gen 1:20  And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.

the writer could have been talking about the false jw's of his day

Pro 6:16  These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: 
Pro 6:17  A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, 
Pro 6:18  An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, 
Pro 6:19  A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

YAHWEH is LORD of lords:
Deu 10:17  For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible, which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward: 

Jesus is Lord of lords:
Rev 17:14  These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

and of course there cannot be a lord above the Lord of lords
showing once again that Father and Jesus is God, john 1:1
there is no Lord above Father, there is no Lord above Jesus, = there is no Lord above God

Jesus said He will raise His body:
Joh 2:19  Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. 
Joh 2:20  Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days? 
Joh 2:21  But he spake of the temple of his body.



Jesus showed that His same flesh body was raised:
Luk_24:39  Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

Joh 20:27  Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.

zodiakzax:
don't worry I will respond....let me get some free time... and let's see if you will cc me again

patience is a virtue

they don't have it:

Luk_8:15  But that on the good ground are they, which in an honest and good heart, having heard the word, keep it, and bring forth fruit with patience.

and how could they:
they are not honest
they don't keep the word but change it
they bring forth bad fruit from their daddy

the LORD God-the Holy Spirit is omnipresent-everywhere

concerning the Lord
Jeremiah 23:23-24
"Can a man hide himself in hiding places So I do not see him?" declares the LORD "Do I not fill the heavens and the earth?" declares the LORD. "Am I a God who is near," declares the LORD, "And not a God far off?

concerning the Holy Spirit
Psalm 139:7-10
Where can I go from Your Spirit? Or where can I flee from Your presence? If I ascend to heaven, You are there; If I make my bed in Sheol, behold, You are there. If I take the wings of the dawn, If I dwell in the remotest part of the sea,


false jw's believe it's just God's power that is everywhere
but the Lord Himself is everywhere, and of course the Lord is all powerful
there is no parting God from His power as if they should be seperate from each other
but then false jw's have two false god's, a almighty god father, and a mighty god son

OneJ:
[\quote author =zodiakzax post=73346492]


About Abraham and his begotten son Isaac,

I said

Monogenes : begotten

Beget is to procreate or generate 

Isaac was Abrahams begotten Son, Abraham brought forth Isaac, Abraham generated Isaac. He asks how did Abraham beget Isaac,
My answer

through sexual intercourse of course, and I said BUT ABRAHAM DID NOT CREATE ISAAC. 

[b]
Ignoring that He asked a rather stupid and irrelevant question, is Isaac created?

To answer that:

Isaac was Abraham's begotten Son and not Yahweh's begotten Son, Abraham brought forth Isaac, Abraham generated Isaac. ABRAHAM DID NOT CREATE ISAAC. YAHWEH CREATED ABRAHAM SO YES YAHWEH CREATED ISAAC. Using the same analogy

GOD BROUGHT FORTH THE SON, GENERATED THE SON, BEGET THE SON. GOD DID NOT CREATE THE SON.YAHWEH IS NOT CREATED SO THE SON CANNOT BE CREATED.


zodiakzax your LIES & verbal somersaults are like Siamese twins. Let's see....

A)
https://yourdictionary.com/bring-forth
Bring forth definition
*Past participle: brought forth
2. to give birth
3. to CREATE, generate, bring into existence.

B)
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/ english/generate
Generate, definition
1. to produce or bring into being, CREATE
Synonyms for generate
Produce, CREATE, make

C)
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ beget
1 to procreate ,as the Father
to cause to exist.
Synonyms for beget
CREATE, cause, generate,produce
*Begotten- past participle of beget.

Yahweh CREATED (generated, made, beget, produced) Jesus Christ, his "first begotten", first born of creation.
Yahweh caused Jesus to exist via creation.
(Col 1:15. Rev 3:14,. Prov 8:22).
For that reason, in heaven and on the earth, Jesus called Yahweh. "my Father and my God". John 20:17. Rev 3:12, 21.

Zodiakzax & your trinity crew (modern day Pharisees who upgraded Jesus to God), the rug has been pulled off your feet, stop grasping at straws.
U are standing on quicksand.
U either sink or press exit mode to receive sense.
Shalom

Father Jehovah said: "Thy throne O God is forever and ever"
you false jw onej replied agreeing with wikipedia that it's lies:

OneJ: "Wikipedia gives exposure to your lies"

in so doing you evil onej call Father Jehovah a liar

you false jw play with words, dictionarys, wikipedia etc.
but they cannot overide God's word as evil jw tries to do

many christians just believe God and accept that the Word - the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ is God

for those who believe:

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Rev 1:8  I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Joh 10:30  I and my Father are one. 
Joh 10:31  Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. 
Joh 10:32  Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? 
Joh 10:33  The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.

^^^ the jews knew Jesus was showing He is God 
and of course Jesus never denied their claim

Joh 20:28  And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
false jw's have problems with words of course, the actual greek that the english is translated from says:
"the" Lord, "the" God
"answered thomas and said to him the Lord of me and the God of me"
"the" is "ho" in the greek, meaning "the definite article", as someone pointed out earlier
like thomas, Jesus is my Lord and my God, and is the Lord and the God of all christians,
but of course Jesus is not the Lord and God of false jw's, there lord and god is:
Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Mat 1:23  Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

Heb 1:8  But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. 
Heb 1:9  Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

@underline, further shows that Father and the Word is God:
Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

false jw's believe in two gods, a father who is almighty God and a jesus who is mighty god
however almighty and mighty are names for the one true God who false jw's do not know:

God is the Almighty God:
Gen_17:1  And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect.

God is the mighty God:
Jer_32:18  Thou shewest lovingkindness unto thousands, and recompensest the iniquity of the fathers into the bosom of their children after them: the Great, the Mighty God, the LORD of hosts, is his name

OneJ:
www.nairaland.com/attachments/8229568_82279098169624download75jpeg900ef51a34839df995aefe575322bb28jpeg16d0839a958ad1bddab32682b6b62a1c_jpeg_jpegaa0660e2639758a001a746c49d26f5c7

of course lies don't bother you
when you speak lies you are just speaking naturally like your daddy:

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.


intelligence that is not there cannot be insulted

OneJ:
.

"The revelation of Jesus Christ which God (Yahweh) gave him..... ". Rev 1:1

Father Yahweh gave Jesus Christ a revelation, kool ?

OneJ: In heaven, Jesus calls Yahweh , "my Father".

in heaven or on earth Father YAHWEH is Jesus Father, laugh

OneJ: REV 3:21
" To him who overcomes, I will give. the right to sit down with me on my throne, JUST AS I OVERCAME AND SAT DOWN WITH MY FATHER ON HIS THRONE"
Jesus sits on YAHWEH'S throne. His Father owns the throne.

oh duh, Jesus sits on the Fathers throne which makes it also Jesus throne, just like Father said:

Heb 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

OneJ: For your mumu mind, U think U are wise but U are the crown king of FALSEHOOD & FOOLISHNESS..

says evil false jw onej who calls Father Jehovah a liar:

Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.








2Pe 1:11 For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ

our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ in His everlasting Kingdom would have a throne that is forever and ever
just like Father God said to Him:
Heb 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. 



the throne of the Father is the throne of God
Father and the Word Jesus Christ is God (many scriptures have been given)


the Bible is full of verses showing that Jesus is God,
and even heb 1:8 in this post showing that Father and Son sit on the throne of God,
who sits on the throne of God but God?
and false jw are blinded to it all:
2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

OneJ:
Wikipedia gives exposure to your lies & forgeries in the holy scriptures U are sharing to deceive gullible people
Mr Twister,
The son sits on Yahweh's throne, don't twist it there.
Jesus said the throne is for Yahweh his Father(Rev 3:12,21) & "therefore Yahweh, your God anointed. thee (Jesus) with the oil of gladness above thy fellows" (companions, sons of God, ( Angels) Heb 1:8,9& Ps 45:7
1 chr 28:5. Luke 1:31-33

the psalmist said referring to Jesus Christ "Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever"

Father God said referring to Jesus Christ "Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever"

the psalmist and Father God said Jesus throne is forever and ever
and the psalmist and Father God called Jesus "God"

you false jw onej, say that is "lies & forgeries in the holy scriptures"


2Pe 1:11  For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ

above, Jesus kingdom is a everlasting kingdom, which means His throne is for ever and ever as well, just like Father God said in heb 1:8 below:

Heb 1:8  But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.


Psa 45:6  Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre. 
Psa 45:7  Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.


you false jw falsely call God's word "lies & forgeries", when it's false jw org. that does lies and forgeries to the Bible,
in your love for changing God's word you call Father God a liar
they don''t come any more evil than you false jw onej 


in your love for doing lies & forgeries on God's word you also call the Saviour of the world "a god"

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Geoffreymgk:
Are you a Former JW

no

Geoffreymgk:
Nigerian JWs are the worst!
Some man was disfellowshipped publicly at the assembly some years Ago. So much for Holy Spirit and Protocol or repentance checking Rubbish!

they are all bad, they all have the same satanic beliefs


false jw's haven't got the Holy Spirit, they don't know Him, they think the Holy Spirit is a non personable power

God is omnipotent - all powerful, but false jw's think God's power is something seperate from God
God speaks and worlds come into being, that's power



john 1:1, God and the word is God,

God and the Word is the Holy Spirit:

Joh_14:23  Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

^^^ Father and Son is Holy Spirit,

vvv Jesus is Holy Spirit

Joh 14:17  Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

^^^ Jesus clearly showing His apostles and disciples that He is God the Holy Spirit

Jesus dwelleth with His apostles and disciples and shall be in them




1Co 2:14  But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

^^^ describing false jw exactly

mumu man, if you want to post something without confusion on Jesus and the Throne
do it, and i will show up your lies there also

@bold, what am i saying, laugh

OneJ:
Wikipedia gives exposure to your lies & forgeries in the holy scriptures U are sharing to deceive gullible people
Mr Twister,
The son sits on Yahweh's throne, don't twist it there.
Jesus said the throne is for Yahweh his Father(Rev 3:12,21) & "therefore Yahweh, your God anointed. thee (Jesus) with the oil of gladness above thy fellows" (companions, sons of God, ( Angels) Heb 1:8,9& Ps 45:7
1 chr 28:5. Luke 1:31-33

laughing,
my post wasn't about the throne of God, but is about showing that Jesus is God
the psalmist and the Father saying to Jesus " Thy throne, O God"
is showing that Jesus is God, oh blinded onej, smile

lying leads to much confusion false jw onej
you really are talking about yourself all those times you call christians mumu brain

here is my post again, just follow the yellow brick road bolded words,
it's not to hard to see that the post is about Jesus being God, for those not mumu, but hard for you:

johnw47:
Crysthaniel

christians quote God's word
you false jw python man quote wikipedia
you believe wikipedia over the bible
but then you also believe that rainbows could be pythons, a little smile

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Psa 45:6  Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre. 
Psa 45:7  Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
^^^ Father God anointed the Word God

Heb_1:8  But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

stick with your wikipedia confused onej
i will stick with God's word

OneJ:
Mr Twister,
The son sits on Yahweh's throne, don't twist it there.
Jesus said the throne is for Yahweh his Father(Rev 3:12,21) & "therefore Yahweh, your God anointed. thee (Jesus) with the oil of gladness above thy fellows" (companions, sons of God, ( Angels) Heb 1:8,9& Ps 45:7
1 chr 28:5. Luke 1:31-33

confused mumu man onej, your confusion comes from having a head full of lies

oh duh, yes, Jesus and Father sit on the same throne, of course God and the Word = God,
sit on the throne of God



my point with posting the verses was to show that Jesus is God, smile

take a look at them again:

johnw47:
Crysthaniel

christians quote God's word
you false jw python man quote wikipedia
you believe wikipedia over the bible
but then you also believe that rainbows could be pythons, a little smile

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Psa 45:6  Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre. 
Psa 45:7  Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
^^^ Father God anointed the Word God

Heb_1:8  But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

john 1:1 says "and the Word was God"
psalms 45:6 says to Jesus "Thy throne, O God"
next verse 7 says to Jesus "therefore God"
hebrews 1:8 says to Jesus "Thy throne, O God"

OneJ:
The satanic spirit of falsehood , confusion& contradiction dwells in U.

talking about yourself again mumu man

OneJ: The word ( one spirit being) was with God (a spirit being), two distinct spirit beings can not be the same spirit being except U get room at Uselu/ Yaba.
Mumu brain.

ha ha, talk about mumu brain
let's show your lies yet again false jw, that are in most if not all of your posts

God and the Word are indeed two Spirit beings, but not two diffrent spirits
they are that one Spirit that is God, just as john 1:1 and scores of other bible verses show, but you don't believe any of them oh son of your daddy the devil:
Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

OneJ: That's definitely not Yahweh, the ONLY TRUE God.

God and the Word Jesus Christ surely is Yahweh the only true God
look at the YAHWEH Jesus verses i posted in above post to lie lie

but of course you false jw don't believe any of them, and change many, such are the liars of the world,
liars against God

OneJ: The head of Christ is God" Yahweh his Father (1 cor 11:3)
Jesus had gone back to heaven to live with Yahweh when Paul wrote that scripture.
U no go fit twist 1 cor 11:3. Rev 3:12,14,21.
"begotten of the Father" means created by the Father,Yahweh.
Mumu brain glued to mumu doctrine.

ha ha, oh know nothing onej
of course the head of the Son is His Father

cannot stop lying false jw onej,
begotten means to bring forth out of pre-existing substance,
Jesus Christ has come from His Father God and His mother mary, the Father is a Spirit, mary is flesh,
Jesus's substance is mary's flesh and Father God's eternal Spirit, Jesus Christ is both God and man:

Joh_4:24  God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
 

oh duh lying false jw

Crysthaniel

christians quote God's word
you false jw python man quote wikipedia
you believe wikipedia over the bible
but then you also believe that rainbows could be pythons, a little smile

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Psa 45:6  Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre. 
Psa 45:7  Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
^^^ Father God anointed the Word God

Heb_1:8  But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

Barristter07:
Matt 11:25
At that time Jesus said, "I praise You, Father, Lord


Yahweh remains the Most High ( Psalm 83:18) ,

YAHWEH is the most high, Yahweh is a name for God
God, is God and the Word, john 1:1 plus many others, God and the Word is YAHWEH

Barristter07: The Most HiGh will never call anyone Lord. Higher persons don't refer to subordinate as Lord. Jesus pointed this out. Jesus refer to Yahweh as Lord in the above verse because Jesus is not Yahweh, he is subordinate to him

lie lie barristter, you still lying and not believing YAHWEH

some verses showing that the Word Jesus Christ is YAHWEH, for you to not believe:

YAHWEH
Psa 102:25 Of old hast thou laid the foundation of the earth: and the heavens are the work of thy hands.

Jesus
Heb 1:10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:


....


YAHWEH
Isa 45:23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.

Jesus
Php 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
Php 2:11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.


....


YAHWEH
Deu 10:17 For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible, which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward:

Jesus
Rev 17:14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

Incidentally, see at Deut 17:14 God is referred to as a mighty God, and we know that God is also referred to as Almighty God, they are not two gods, a mighty god and an almighty God as false jw say.


....


YAHWEH
Isa 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.

Jesus
Joh 1:49 Nathanael answered and saith unto him, Rabbi, thou art the Son of God; thou art the King of Israel.

Rev 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
Rev 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.


....



YAHWEH
Psa 130:7 Let Israel hope in the LORD: for with the LORD there is mercy, and with him is plenteous redemption.
Psa 130:8 And he shall redeem Israel from all his iniquities.

Jesus
Tit 2:14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.


....


YAHWEH
Zec 12:10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

Jesus
Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

YAHWEH-Jesus was pierced


....


YAHWEH
Joe 2:32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.

Jesus
Rom 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

OneJ:
U are missing the point.
The Bible is inspired by God,YAHWEH.
2 tim3:16.
For this reason, Yahweh can not lie nor contradict himself. Num23:19. John 17:17
Jesus confirmed he is the son of God, Yahweh revealed it to Simon Peter. Matt 16:13-17.
Yahweh himself ,again spoke from heaven that Jesus is his beloved son. matt 3:16,17.

it's very simple except for the blinded who of course have not the Spirit
if some cannot understand they should at least believe the Bible
but you fales jw's neither understand or believe God, and change what He says

God the Word(Spirit) became man(flesh)
the Word(Spirit) is God
the man(flesh) is the Son of God
Jesus is both God(Spirit) and man(flesh):

the Father is also God, and false jw's cannot understand that, or anything, of course

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Joh 1:14  And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. 

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Crysthaniel:
what is there is that The Bible is inspired by Jehovah and it's perfect and Harmonious.. so
if John 1:1 say that Word is God why does John 12: 49-50 and 16:28 points that there is one who sent Jesus(The word) and this person is commanding him and greater than him 14:28 ? with this we Percive that something is wrong somewhere..and it's The fact that John 1:1 has been manipulated ..you can research on the Account on your own..too @wikipedia you will see The. History of the account.. (John 1:1)

brain like a sieve cry
i'm here to point out your false jw lies, not to teach satans mob
i post many scriptures pointing out your lies, and of course you don't believe any of them

now if you were to address what i say then i could reply to you with scriptures
and be showing up your lies at the same time
but you don't address my posts and the scriptures i post because you cannot
you run away from it and come back with a question

but let me point out one of your lies yet again @bold,
would you like me to post again verses showing John 1:1 to be true?

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Crysthaniel:
is Jesus the father?

is the son the Father oh confused one, i don't have enough duh's for you, again you didn't address my post but just ask a question
address my posts and then i will show up the stupidity of your questions

Crysthaniel:
so the question read 1corinthians 11:3 is Christ God?

of course you false jw cry cannot address my post or believe the scriptures i gave reference to
but in reply you ask a question,
typical false jw running away from the truth


1Co 11:3  But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God. 

of course Father is the head of Jesus, the verse is not about Christ being God or no,
oh duh duh

Crysthaniel:
I want them trinitarians to explain the account of John 12 :49-50
For I have not spoken of my own initiative, but the Father who sent me has himself given me a commandment about what to say and what to speak. 50 And I know that his commandment means everlasting life. So whatever I speak, I speak just as the Father has told me

with their claim of John 1:1(of which most of the modern translations have distorted the earliest reproduce of the original scriptures according To reasearch #wikipedia)

python man
would you like me to post again other bible verses showing that the below version of John 1:1 is true?

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

OneJ:
The words of Yahweh himself, that's the proverbial horse's mouth (matt 3:16,17.) & Jesus Christ direct statements ( John 3:16. 7:16,17. Matt 16:13 -17. John 20:17 ) & what his apostles confessed (Acts 3:13. John 20:30,31. Rev 3:12,14,21. 1 cor 8:5,6 &11:3) carries more weight than your famous forgeries & inserted fiction (John 1:1. 1 John 5:7, Rev 1:11 etc) to promote falsehood.

(Afterthought...)
" Jesus was calling God (YAHWEH) his FATHER "John 5:18 (' I am God's son,', Jesus said. John 10:34-36)
But the Pharisees lied that Jesus was " making himself equal to God" John 5:18. but Christ disagreed ( " the Father (Yahweh) is greater than I". John 14:28)

Today, the modern day Pharisees (brocab , Johnw47 ,solite3, Prime sky,Anas09 et al) have upgraded that lie & installed Jesus as Almighty God.
Trinity is a fundamental lie fit for the dustbin.
That's where it belongs.
Shalom

ha ha, bible verses don't show other bible verses to be wrong,
that's just your lack of understanding, mumu man

johnw47:
ha ha, oh duh false jw,
and Jesus never corrected Him, because it's true
so Jesus is God of not just thomas, but of the apostles and disciples and all christians
Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
just pointing out your lies onej

Crysthaniel:
but at Psalms 89:6 the Bible says For who in the skies can compare to Jehovah? Who among the SONS of God is like Jehovah?

Psalms 89:6 For who in the skies can compare to Jehovah? Who among the sons of God is like Jehovah?

who in the skies, meaning the angels - the sons of the Almighty, can compare to Father GOD
none of the angels can compare to FATHER GOD
the verse is referring to angels-the sons of God, because we know Jesus Christ the Son of God compares to
Father God perfectly:

Jesus is the image of God, 2Co_4:4
Jesus is the image of the invisible God, Col_1:15
Jesus is the brightness of his glory, the express image of his person, Heb_1:3

Jesus the man is exactly like Father God

OneJ:
As regards Pharoah & Joseph, Gen41:39-41 is what I had in mind. Thanks for pointing it out. It's appreciated.

2). "so Christ even though was God did not consider himself equal to God", as U well know, it's a contradictory statement which the writer of Phil2:6,7 can not have written himself ,except his exact words were twisted to such an extent that it's contradictory


3) If Jesus is Almighty God and still consider himself inferior to God. John 14:28.
Thats not common sense , na mumu.

4) Phil 2:9-11, Jesus exalted position is to glory of God Yahweh, therefore, Yahweh is not under Christ's authority.
1 cor 15:24-27, sheds light on it in lucid details.
5) Thomas himself never called Jesus "our God". but "my God". Context is key.
Therefore, Christ is not Yahweh, whom Christ called the only true God John 17:3.
Shalom

ha ha, oh duh false jw,
and Jesus never corrected Him, because it's true
so Jesus is God of not just thomas, but of the apostles and disciples and all christians
Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
just pointing out your lies onej

OneJ:
Your fellow peddler of Trinity on this thread lied that he's "not defending the Trinity" your mumu doctrine & U are here shamelessly backing him. ..
I'm not in the least amazed.
Siamese twins of falsehood,na una way

here it is again for you confused and blinded mumu man
because i'm sure you won't understand it the first time, laughing:

johnw47: oh confused false jw onej

ha ha, truly i am not preaching trinity to you or anyone
but i do use verses showing Jesus is God etc, to show up all of your false jw lies

and i have said more than once that i'm not interisted in teaching false jw's anything
but just showing up their lies, and posting bible verses for the benefit of others that read here

but of course you cannot stop lying onej, you are false jw



yes confused onej, John 8:44-45 is concerning false jw, showing that your father is the devil, and how when you speak lies you are just speaking naturally like your daddy:

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. 
Joh 8:45  And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.

OneJ:
I"m not defending the Trinity"
Falsehood dey inside your blood.
What have U been doing on this thread?
"You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire.... for there is no truth in him. Yet , because (JWs) tell you the truth, you do not believe"
John 8:44,45.

oh confused false jw onej

ha ha, truly i am not preaching trinity to you or anyone
but i do use verses showing Jesus is God etc, to show up all of your false jw lies

and i have said more than once that i'm not interisted in teaching false jw's anything
but just showing up their lies, and posting bible verses for the benefit of others that read here

but of course you cannot stop lying onej, you are false jw



yes confused onej, John 8:44-45 is concerning false jw, showing that your father is the devil, and how when you speak lies you are just speaking naturally like your daddy:

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. 
Joh 8:45  And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.

OtemAtum:
Which of the gods can overpower me? I am Otem of truth.

me, and i'm only a man

OtemAtum:
Which of the gods can conquer me, god Otem? I have been placed over Yahweh, Allah, Moloch, El, Odin and other gods. They must bow at the sound of my name.

i'm only a man but i conquer you otem every time we meet

OtemAtum:
Here is the second reincarnation of Yahweh to the earth. He died prematurely this time around.

poor otem, you are really tormented over YAHWEH, good