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MaxInDHouse:
Ọ̀dẹ̀!
Michael is God's spokesman among the angels not just angels speaking to humans but one who is always speaking as the Holy one of God among the angels!

dum dum lost false jw mad max

post scriptures showing that michael is the only spokesperson for God among the angels
you cannot it's a lie, of course
i have already shown that gabriel spoke for God

MaxInDHouse: Despite putting on the appearance of a lesser being {Hebrews 2:9} a demon could still recognize him:
Saying, Let us alone; what have we to do with thee, thou Jesus of Nazareth? art thou come to destroy us? I know thee who thou art, the Holy One of God. Mark 1:24[/b]

most dum mad max, the Word became flesh not michael an angel became flesh
demons recognized Jesus not michael oh twister of God's word

MaxInDHouse: Why?
Jesus/Michael is God's spokesman among the angels in heaven: the WORD!

@bold, so you keep lying and saying oh fraud:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

achorladey:
If not for his madness and insanities peddling brains laced with lies. The very same thing he accuses others is what he does and champions the most.

The madness and insanities peddling brains says we are only after Jehovah’s witnesses. Yet his own ways on Nairaland is just about those not Jehovah’s witnesses that's why all his years on nairaland is just in religion section

very true if there wasn't Christians on nairaland forums
for mad max to chase after he wouldn't have a life

achorladey:
That arrogance of a so called Bible knowledge is cause of all this problem

much of what mad max says is nonsense made up in his head
if i was to reply to most of his lies i wouldn't have time for anything else in the day

cornelboy:
Lol na you get this moniker too
It wouldnt be a surprise if you manage this moniker too

lost false jw cornyboy

you satan's mob love to show off your lies and paranoia
which is fear, dont you:

rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.

Gabrielshow24:
They can't show from scripture, what they have or hold onto is "the correlation" of the personalities!!!

And they failed to accommodate for the fact that "correlation doesn't mean causation"!!!!

And this posit of theirs fails woefully as it doesn't pass the law of non-contradiction.

You can see the great length he is currently going to, just to defend or reconcile the supposed superiority of Michael to the fact he is ONE OF the chief princes.

CREATING SET Theory afresh🤣🤣🤣

gabriel spoke to mary for God, so according to false jw mad max's reasoning
gabriel must be qualified to be called the Word

they are dum frauds

MaxInDHouse:
As God's spokesman among the angels that's what qualifies Michael to be called "the WORD"

lost false jw mad max

those are just words made up in your head

show from scripture that michael is God's spokesman among the angels
as far as i've seen other angels speak for God as well

show from scripture that michael is qualified to be called the Word

gabriel spoke to mary for God, so according to your reasoning
gabriel must be qualified to be called the Word

false jw, u r so dum and a fraud, aren't you, making up lies and then preaching them

MaxInDHouse:
Johnny, prove you are a living creature by commenting meaningfully on other threads not just when JWs are mentioned.
It's like someone bewitched you with a spell or programmed you so that at the mention of Jehovah's Witnesses you kick off like an engine used to wining!

ecc_7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


very dum lost false jw mad max

it's true that i don't like you frauds/you satan's mob

Mat 7:15  Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

at these forums we see the wolves exposed under their sheep's clothing

MaxInDHouse:
Ọ̀dẹ̀!
Living but only comment on JW threads!

ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


lost false jw mad max

with my thing being mainly showing up lies, tells you why i mainly post to you and other false jw's

g u liars r dum, aren't you, of course

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

MaxInDHouse:
Tell yourself the truth.
If not for Jehovah's Witnesses are you a living creature on this forum or a dead dog who can't bite?

ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


lost false jw mad max

i will not only tell myself the truth, i will tell you the truth to oh dum one
being a saved Christian i am indeed a living man
and if the truths and scriptures i post don't bite you it's because you don't believe truth:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire

MaxInDHouse:
God's organized people!

lost false jw mad max

of course you forever fool yourself

according to you who loves to torment, you false jw's are satan's organised messangers:

2Co_12:7 Because of the surpassing greatness of the revelations, for this reason, to keep me from exalting myself, there was given me a thorn in the flesh, a messenger of Satan to torment me—to keep me from exalting myself!

MaxInDHouse:
One funny thing about some people is how lifeless they are without JWs on this forum yet they will not admit it's only that gives them oxygen to breathe!

Job_15:12  Why doth thine heart carry thee away? and what do thy eyes wink at



lost false jw mad max forever lying and puffed up:

Pro 16:5 Everyone who is proud in heart is an abomination to the LORD;
you puffed up/proud in heart false jw's are an abomination to Jehovah
and of course you don't care about that

and forever making up lies of course taking after your father the devil:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire

MaxInDHouse:
I often love tormenting him

lost false jw mad max

paul was given a messanger of the devil to torment him,
you are a messanger of the devil, loving to torment, you admit:

2Co_12:7  Because of the surpassing greatness of the revelations, for this reason, to keep me from exalting myself, there was given me a thorn in the flesh, a messenger of Satan to torment me—to keep me from exalting myself!

so called Jehovah's witnesses = satan's messengers

MaxInDHouse:
Great thread!

lost false jw mad max

no one has posted in this thread for nearly 3 years,
and you come and post your very much repeated folly

false jw mad max, Jehovah says that you are a fool:
Pro_26:11 Like a dog that returns to its vomit Is a fool who repeats his folly

MaxInDHouse:
See frustration!
Always begging for the attention of JWs

false jw mad max

i'm not always begging jw's, but i point out some of false jw's many lies,
you of course like your father the devil find it impossible to stop lying, don't you:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

MaxInDHouse: mumu is quoting a post and responding to the same post for more than three times!
Na wah o!

ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool

and even so you are still to fearful to reply to me personally:

rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.

and talk about a mumu, you fraud jw's take the cake on that

MaxInDHouse:
I often love tormenting him because he's dumb throughout the forum for the past few years only Jehovah's Witnesses makes him talk.
But because of you i will leave him!

false jw mad max

because i have often shown you to be very dum
you come back with your lies and false accusations following your father the devil, of course:

Jehovah is witness to your never ending lies and false accusations, and of course you false jw's don't care about that:
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Rev_12:10  Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, "Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, he who accuses them before our God day and night.

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire

Aemmyjah:
Pls sir
Let that sleeping dog lie
His head is too hot
Before he starts barking all over NL

false jw aemmy

u coward are often too fearful to post to me directly ,
instead you cowardly post about me in lies, to other,
mad max and janosky and corny boy and other false jw's do the same:

rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.

false jw's:
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.


lost false jw, of course you call the truth i post > "barking all over NL"

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire

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MaxInDHouse:
Evidence God's Holy Spirit is Active!

oh duh, false jw mad max who sayeth anything

did someone say the Holy Spirit is sleeping

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints

false prophecies and false date settings of so called Jehovah's witnesses

1829

1829 was the start of the Miller movement, as supposedly prophesied by the 1290 days of Daniel 12:11. This was 1290 years from the beginning of papal rule in 539 A.D, as explained in Studies in the Scriptures - Thy Kingdom Come p.84 and Studies in the Scriptures - The Finished Mystery pp.40, 60, 163.

"The Prophet Daniel's statement that "the wise shall understand" apparently refers to the end of the 1290 days mentioned in the same chapter. This period terminated in 1829. Shortly after 1829 the message of the nearness of the Second Advent of Christ began especially to be promulgated by William Miller. As a result of the exaltation of the Word of God, certain doctrines were brought forth in a very prominent way." Watchtower 1914 Nov 1 p.326

1840

Sounding of the Seventh Trumpet.

"The seventh trumpet sounds from Aug. 1840, until "the time of trouble," or day of wrath is ended. Hence, it doubtless ends with the times of the Gentiles, and this forty years of conquest; and therefore, sounds until A. D. 1914; at the end of which, Babylon the great, will have fallen, and the "dragon" be bound: that is, the nations will be subdued, and "the prince of this world cast out."" Three Worlds and the Harvest of This World (1877) p.27

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cornelboy:
Where is Emusan
You don tire to run both monikers at the same time

false jw cornyboy

u loving to join other false jw's paranoia and lies, of course,
your paranoia is fear:
rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.

MaxInDHouse:
Great thread!

false jw mad max, Jehovah say's you are a fool:

Pro_26:11  Like a dog that returns to its vomit Is a fool who repeats his folly

Aemmyjah:
Pls sir
Let that sleeping dog lie
His head is too hot
Before he starts barking all over NL

MaxInDHouse: I often love tormenting him because he's dumb throughout the forum for the past few years only Jehovah's Witnesses makes him talk.
But because of you i will leave him!

false jw's aemmy and mad max

you people are not game to say "boo", face to face in the streets and at peoples doors,
are you:

rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.

"The time of the end" embraces a period from A.D. 1799, as above indicated, to the time of the complete overthrow of Satan's empire and the establishment of the kingdom of the Messiah." The Harp of God p.231

"Twelve-hundred sixty years from A.D. 539 brings us to 1799-another proof that 1799 definitely marks the beginning of "the time of the end"." The Harp of God p.230

"How is the beginning of the “time of the end” definitely fixed at 1799 A. D.?" The Harp of God p.269

"This great increase in knowledge and the tremendous running to and fro of the people in various parts of the earth without question is a fulfilment of the prophecy testifying as to "the time of the end"." The Harp of God p.234

It is amusing to see the lengthy list of inventions The Harp of God used as proof that the 1800's was the time of the end. The locomotive and "flying machine" (p.231) were considered fulfilment of the "day of God's preparation" spoken of in Nahum 2:1-6. Evidence the Lord's presence commenced 1874 included - adding machines, aeroplanes, aluminium, antiseptic surgery, artificial dyes, automatic couplers, automobiles, barbed wire, bicycles, carborundum, cash registers, celluloid, correspondence schools, cream separators, Darkest Africa, fireless cookers, shoe-sewing machines, the telegraph, the telephone, Panama Canal, Pasteurization, and vacuum cleaners (page 235).

This teaching continued throughout the nineteen twenties in other publications.

"The indisputable facts, therefore, show that the "time of the end" began in 1799; that the Lord's second presence began in 1874." Watchtower 1922 Mar 1 p.73

"Napoleon began this Egyptian campaign in 1798, finished it, and then returned to France on October 1, 1799. The campaign is briefly, yet graphically described in the prophecy, verses 40-44; and its being completed in 1799 marks, according to the prophet's own words, the beginning of "the time of the end. Twelve hundred and sixty years from 539 A.D. brings us to 1799, which is another proof that 1799 definitely marks the beginning of "the time of the end." This also shows that it is from the date 539 A.D. that the other prophetic days of Daniel must be counted." Creation (1927) 2,175,000 ed. p.293

"These physical facts cannot be disputed and are sufficient to convince any reasonable mind that we have been in "the time of the end" since 1799." The Harp of God p.234

Then as now, Watchtower resorted to insult, with Rutherford indicating above that a person is not of "reasonable mind" if they do not believe the time of the end started in 1799. Today, a Witness that does not believe 1914 was the start of the end is labelled as apostate or even the antichrist and disfellowshipped.

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MaxInDHouse: Great thread!

MaxInDHouse: But because of you i will leave him!

lost false jw mad max, it is a great thread with the posts showing you so called Jehovah's witnesses
to be false prophets/frauds


more:

so called Jehovah's witnesses are false prophets just to mention one thing

1799

Few Witnesses today are aware of the relevance of the year 1799, that this year is pivotal to the very existence of Jehovah's Witnesses. 1799 was the beginning of "the time of the end." This concept started the era of enlightenment and Adventist movement of the 1800's, resulting in Russell's end time belief system.

In no uncertain terms, Watchtower presented "proof" that 1799 was "definitely" the start of the time of the end.

"THE "Time of the End," a period of one hundred and fifteen (115) years, from A.D. 1799 to A.D. 1914, is particularly marked in the Scriptures. "The Day of His Preparation" is another name given to the same period." Studies in the Scriptures - Thy Kingdom Come p.23

In 1796, George Bell postulated that the Pope was the Antichrist and would fall in 1797. The war that started shortly afterwards, along with Napoleon debasing the Pope, was seen as evidence of the fulfilment of this. So dramatic was the apparent fulfilment of this prophecy that it led to the start of the Adventist movement and belief that the last days started 1799. The reasoning was related to Daniel's prophecy of the King of the North and prophecies of the 1260 days in Daniel 7:25, Revelation 12:7 and 11:1-3.

Studies in the Scriptures - The Time is as Hand and Zion's Watch Tower 1889 discussed this as relating to the 1799 date.

Catholic Papal rule started in 539 A.D. and was said to have ended 1260 years later in 1799, thus starting the beginning of the time of the end. The prophecy of the 1355 days was similarly calculated to extend from 539 A.D. to 1874, another key date in Russell's understanding of the end times. Although Russell did not get involved in the Adventist movement until the 1870's, he accepted this date as truth and felt that God had chosen him as his mouthpiece to preach the urgency of the times.

Despite Russell's death, and the failure of his teaching that Jesus earthly rulership would commence 1914, Watchtower continued with this doctrine, and even well after Jesus apparent cleansing of Watchtower in 1919.

"Napoleon began this Egyptian campaign in 1798, ... and being completed in 1799, marks, according to the Prophet's own words, the beginning of the "time of the end". The Harp of God (1921) pp.228,229

Aemmyjah:
Pls sir
Let that sleeping dog lie
His head is too hot
Before he starts barking all over NL

MaxInDHouse: I often love tormenting him because he's dumb throughout the forum for the past few years only Jehovah's Witnesses makes him talk.
But because of you i will leave him!

@bold, how queer

false jw's aemmy and mad max, forever gossiping to each other like old women over the backyard fence,
u people r queer as can be, of course, aren't you

fancy u mad max calling anyone dumb, u mad max who teaches:
that Jesus Christ is a deceiver
that Jehovah isn't Almighty
that Jehovah isn't all knowing
that the Holy Spirit lies, etc.

u false jw's r always lying thinking Jehovah doesn't know:
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

u blasphemers are of course lost:
Mat 12:31  Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. 
Mat 12:32  Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire

so called Jehovah's witnesses are false prophets just to mention one thing

1798

"And, perhaps we can answer: the "time, times, and a-half," ended in 1798, at the taking away of the papal dominion, and is one of the great landmarks of prophecy." Three Worlds and The Harvest of This World (1877) p.158

The 1260 days in Revelation 12:7 were said to extend from 538 A.D. to 1798 A.D. and marked by the end of Papal rule. In 1889, Russell changed the last days from 1798 to 1799, based on a new understanding that papal rule started in 539 A.D.

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false prophets are not true christians

1798

"And, perhaps we can answer: the "time, times, and a-half," ended in 1798, at the taking away of the papal dominion, and is one of the great landmarks of prophecy." Three Worlds and The Harvest of This World (1877) p.158

The 1260 days in Revelation 12:7 were said to extend from 538 A.D. to 1798 A.D. and marked by the end of Papal rule. In 1889, Russell changed the last days from 1798 to 1799, based on a new understanding that papal rule started in 539 A.D.

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1780

May 19, 1780 was the date for the first sign of the last days, "The Dark Day." Certain Adventists still hold to this date. It was said by Ellen that "Since the time of Moses no period of darkness of equal density, extent, and duration, has ever been recorded." (Great Controversy, p. 308) This was touched on in Studies in the Scriptures - The Day Of Vengeance (1897) p.604;

"Reckoning a hundred years from 1780, the date of the first sign, the limit would reach to 1880; and, to our understanding, every item predicted had begun to be fulfilled at that date"

The time of darkness, the first sign of the end, was caused by fires in New England and was confined mostly to the North-Eastern part of the United States. Quite typically a new religion will think their country is predicted in prophecy. The Adventists, Mormons and Watchtower Society all began as US centric religions.

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MaxInDHouse:
God warmns against blasphemy against His Holy Spirit! Matthew 12:31-32

which you do anyway oh deceiver


blasphemer of the Holy Spirit lost false jw mad max

anyone who tells a lie and say's that the Holy Spirit told them that, like you did,
has sinned a unforgivable sin against the Holy Spirit,
truly the Holy Spirit is not a liar as you people are:

Mat 12:31  Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. 
Mat 12:32  Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire



this thread was originally called something like: "blasphemy against the Holy Spirit"

false prophecies and false date settings of so called Jehovah's witnesses


It is claimed that Jesus found a cleansed Slave Class dispensing truthful food in 1919. However, Rutherford continued to promote Russell's interpretation of the dates for the 1700's, 1800's and 1914 until the 1930's. Many of the date prophecies were re-explained between 1930 and 1932; the remainder were adjusted in 1943. Rutherford even dismissed the majority of his own 1900's predictions.

Chapter 10 of Jehovah's Witnesses - Proclaimers of God's Kingdom is devoted to the subject "Growing in Accurate Knowledge of the Truth". This discusses that truth is progressive, yet makes little reference to the failed dates. Relegated to a footnote on page 133 is the statement that;

"A clearer understanding of Biblical chronology was published in 1943, in the book "The Truth Shall Make You Free" and it was then refined the following year in the book "The Kingdom Is at Hand," as well as in later publications.

Scant mention is made of the incredible list of dates that had been abandoned. Nor does it clarify that it was not until 1943 that the beginning of Christ's presence was specifically changed from the year 1874 to 1914. This change was in The Truth Shall Make You Free, released in the time of Knorr and the first book to be printed that did not list the author's name. This was after the death of Rutherford and well after 1919 when Jesus inspection supposedly found a spiritually cleansed Organization.

One can imagine that over time most of the current doctrine describing events of the 1900's will eventually be seen to be of little relevance and relegated to the forgotten annals of Watchtower history. It is yet to be seen what will become of 1914; being the most significant doctrine it will be the most difficult to eradicate without overwhelming consequences.

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the so called Jehovah's witnesses are not Christians like the rest of us
they are false prophets etc.


For Rutherford the important dates were:

"WE HAVE no doubt whatever in regard to the chronology relating to the dates of 1874, 1914, 1918, and 1925." Watchtower 1922 May 15 p.147
Over time, Rutherford replaced 1874, such that his time line was as follows in pictures below.

Other significant dates the Watchtower no longer refer to are;

1799 A.D. - The beginning of the Last Days.
539 A.D. - Thought to be the start of Catholic Papal rule and the start point of many prophetic interpretations.

Of these above dates only 1914 is still considered significant, and even then, mostly for different reasons than originally prescribed. Though part of Watchtower lore for 60 years, most current Jehovah's Witnesses are unaware of their significance and that each one failed to eventuate as predicted.

Each time the Watchtower has predicted an occurrence, it has not eventuated as foretold, a 100% failure rate. Does this inspire confidence in Watchtower interpretation? Jehovah's Witnesses promoted these falsehoods in the past, and continue to zealously advocate current doctrine as unfailing truths.

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Janosky:
Omo ,As e dey sweet us nah so e dey pain Dem.
Sifia pains all over dem triune deities devotees.

MaxInDHouse: Ọmọ dem go cry tire o, because i go dey giv dem wotowoto!

ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


false jw's nosky and mad max

just your usual puffed up pride and lies, of course:

Pro 16:5 Everyone who is proud in heart is an abomination to the LORD;
you puffed up/proud in heart false jw's are an abomination to Jehovah - fact,
Jehovah doesn't lie like you people do

false jw's:
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.