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Christianity EtcRe: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by johnw47: 9:10pm On Jan 21, 2025
Mental Illness Amongst Jehovah's Witnesses - continue
jwfacts..com

"From my own research, I met Jehovah's Witnesses who do celebrate birthdays, vote for political candidates, sit around Christmas trees (albeit with the closed curtains), have premarital sex, let off fireworks at New Year's Eve and smoke an occasional cigar after a good meal. So, drawing conclusions from the movement's literature (particularly back editions) to evaluate the day-to-day practices of a specific family may render an inaccurate picture of their proper religious involvement (Wah 1997b: 306)."

Singelenberg proceeds to quote Wilson in regard to the sometime unfair perception of people towards sects;

"Because sectarians do not choose what others choose, holds themselves apart in their use of leisure time and ... associate only with each other rather than with non-members, that sects elicit some of the strongest reactions from the general public. The child-centered society is inclined to see prohibitions respecting children's play activities as wilful deprivation. We live in a tolerant society. There is no reason at all why the mother should not espouse the beliefs and practices of Jehovah's Witnesses There is nothing immoral or socially obnoxious in the beliefs and practice of the sect... (Wilson 1990: 37, 38, 51)

Due to the negative perception of a Witness upbringing, two court custody cases discussed by Singelenberg found against the Witness parent. The reasoning is worth consideration and highlights the negative viewpoints inculcated into Witness children.

Case i The Netherlands, 1991

In this custody case the husband left the wife after she became a Jehovah's Witness. The wife initially won custody but later this was overturned and given to the husband.

"Of course, the Board does not render an opinion about the religious conviction of the mother. However, the Board cannot ignore the fact that mother's active involvement in this community will have consequences for the upbringing of the children.

… though mother is able to put herself in the experience of the children, it remains to be seen if she, from her univocal view on the world and on mankind, can give the children enough opportunity to form an opinion of their own and enable them to unfold and develop their talents.

It remains to be seen if [the mother] can give enough room to the children, so they can unfold according to their nature. The fundamental as well as the relational anchorage of the children in the group of Jehovah's Witnesses give reason for some concern, because in case they react against this belief there is a danger they end up in a social vacuum."

Case ii Germany, 1993

In case ii a husband was disfellowshipped and the wife took custody. The Jehovah's Witness wife started to beat the child, one time an eyewitness found the child unconscious. The wife's reason was that he was turning out like the husband and she was frustrated due to the divorce. An expert on 'Cults and World Views' from the Evangelical Lutheran Church was called to provide information about the type of harm that comes from being raised as a Witness;

"[1] The educational target of the Jehovah's Witnesses is subordination by coercion and uncritical acceptance of religious doctrines and teachings, in order to break the free will of the growing child and to mould it into an uncritical and dependent individual.

[2] It should be made clear that the outside world is a hostile environment, which has harmful effects on children of Jehovah's Witnesses. But more than that, Jehovah's Witnesses should fear a vengeful God and an imminent Armageddon. Unbelievers, including unbelieving children will be victims of a 'bloody liquidation' in that final battle.

When, for example, the child is being cast off from the community, family members are not allowed to have any spiritual contact with the child. The relationship between parents and child will be strictly limited to satisfy the biological needs of the child. The child will be treated as an outcast.

Secondary education is looked upon with suspicion because 'it has been proved that this will lead to a preference of satanic material things' and a gradual withdrawal from the religious sphere."

The court found "that the child, brought up with these views (as explained by the expert on cults), will probably be mentally harmed for the rest of his life." People in general hold concern for Witness children, specifically due to segregation from the world, coercion based on fear of Armageddon and possible shunning, and being dissuaded from critical thinking and individual development.
Christianity EtcRe: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by johnw47: 5:29am On Jan 21, 2025
continued from above regarding so called Jehovah's witnesses foolish laughter at nothing funny =

Mental Illness Amongst Jehovah's Witnesses

There are many intelligent, well balanced and successful Jehovah's Witnesses and there is no intention in this article to suggest a Witness needs to have any mental or emotional problems to hold to their beliefs. This is an attempt to clarify whether existing studies prove higher levels of mental illness amongst Jehovah's Witnesses and identify reasons why this could be the case.

Singelenberg

In Child Custody Decisions and Jehovah's Witness Parenthood, Richard Singelenberg has produced a balanced look at the evidence. He concludes that as yet there are no true scientific studies that can be used legitimately;

"In general, scientific research of socialisation practices in religious movements is still in its infancy. Although specific data from Jehovah's Witnesses are lacking, results from similarly controversial religious movements such as Hare Krishna, the Rajneesh Movement and The Family (the former Children of God) indicate that child-rearing practices in these groups have no adverse effects on the child's general well-being (Lilliston & Shepherd 1994; Palmer & Hardman 1999)."

He shows concern that perceptions about Jehovah's Witnesses may unjustly lead to an unfavourable judgement against them in custody cases:

"Analysis of two court cases focusing on child custody disputes among members of this religious movement indicates that misconceptions about religious tenets, consideration of pseudo-scientific claims and emphasis on the ideological realm rather than individual circumstances may influence judicial decisions. It should be noted, however, that certain statements that have emanated from the umbrella organization of the Jehovah's Witnesses might have contributed to these misinterpretations."

Singelenberg also highlights the variance of beliefs and practices of Witnesses when behind closed doors;

jwfacts..com

to continue
Christianity EtcRe: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by johnw47: 5:20am On Jan 21, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
So it's no longer dictionary but scientists shey? cheesy
Now it's scientists that's determining the meaning of English language! grin
ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


lost false jw mad max, blasphemer of Jehovah and Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit

you are not only confused at what is said
but you say things that are not humurous and then you laugh
that is a sign of insanity, i will post a little here soon
on mental disease among you so called Jehovah's witnesses:

James 1:8
A double minded man is unstable in all his ways

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints
Christianity EtcRe: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by johnw47: 1:15am On Jan 21, 2025
johnw47:
lost fraud jw janosky

as always you cannot stop falsely accusing like the devil:
Rev_12:10  Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, "Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, he who accuses them before our God day and night.

and as usual of course, you cannot stop lying like the devil:
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire
and as usual lost fraud jw janosky

whenever i come to a thread and post to you, you soon run like hell away:
rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.
Christianity EtcRe: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by johnw47: 12:45am On Jan 21, 2025
Joh 1:3  All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being. 

Joh 1:3  All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

through Him or by Him, it shows that the Word didn't come into being/wasn't made
Christianity EtcRe: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by johnw47: 12:28am On Jan 21, 2025
Janosky:
You pretend that the expression " through him" @ John 1:3 has no relevance in the passage.
Trinitarian devotees avoid it because it counters their TWISTING of verse 3 of John chapter 1.
"Through him ". is the same meaning as I built my house through him.
The house doesn't not belong to the one through whom that house was built.
lost fraud jw janosky

Joh 1:3  All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being. 

everything came into being through The Word, showing that The Word never came into being:

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints
Christianity EtcRe: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by johnw47:
Janosky:
Continue in your folly.
Desperate attention seeker.
lost fraud jw janosky

as always you cannot stop falsely accusing like the devil:
Rev_12:10  Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, "Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, he who accuses them before our God day and night.

and as usual of course, you cannot stop lying like the devil:
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire
Christianity EtcRe: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by johnw47: 11:16pm On Jan 20, 2025
GothamCities:
You've clearly described yourself.

Where are the curses, abuses, etc you're ascribing to me?

Christianity without proof is not Christianity. All those outward shows of Piety are just hogwash.

I am a living proof of the God i serve.
those false jw's are the great false accusers like their god the devil:
Rev_12:10  Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, "Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, he who accuses them before our God day and night.

and those gods people lie like hell, which again shows who their god really is

so called jehovah's witnesses:
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Christianity EtcRe: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by johnw47: 12:53am On Jan 19, 2025
Janosky:
Tueh !
grin grin
ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


lost fraud jw janosky

people like you spat at Jesus Christ too, for saying the truth:

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire


Mat 26:67  Then they spat in His face and beat Him with their fists; and others slapped Him,
Christianity EtcRe: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47: 12:02am On Jan 19, 2025
Death Camps, Hard Labor, Abductions, Executions And Burned Churches – 380 Million Christians Are Facing “High Levels Of Persecution”


Are you willing to die for what you believe? This is a question that hundreds of millions of Christians have to ask themselves every single day. The things that you are going to read about in this article are absolutely horrifying, but you won’t hear about them from the corporate media, because the corporate media hates to share stories that put Christians in a sympathetic light. The Christian faith is the most persecuted faith on the entire planet, and every single day Christians are being beaten, tortured, taken to death camps and executed. According to the latest report from Open Doors, a staggering 380 million Christians are currently facing high levels of persecution…


Christian persecution spiked around the globe in 2024, with more than 380 million Christians suffering high levels of persecution and discrimination, according to a report released Wednesday.

The human rights watchdog group Open Doors has published its World Watch List 2025, which ranks the fifty countries where it is most dangerous to be a Christian.

But we aren’t supposed to talk about this, are we?

In fact, this article will probably get a lot less attention than some of my other articles, because we have been trained to ignore the systematic persecution of Christians that is happening on the other side of the globe.

In Africa, one out of every five Christians is facing severe persecution, and in Asia it is two out of every five Christians…

Worldwide, one in seven Christians is persecuted. For Christians in Africa, the number is higher still: a full 20 percent live in persecution. Meanwhile in Asia, two in five Christians are persecuted for their faith, an astonishing 40 percent.

North Korea claimed the number one spot in the report. According to Open Doors, if you are identified as a Christian in North Korea “you could be killed on the spot”…

If your Christian faith is discovered in North Korea, you could be killed on the spot. If you aren’t killed, you will be deported to a labour camp and treated as a political criminal. You will be punished with years of hard labour that few survive. And it’s not only you who will be punished: North Korean authorities are likely to round up your extended family and punish them too, even if your family members aren’t Christians.

The concentration camps in North Korea are some of the most brutal that the world has ever seen.

But we don’t really talk about them anymore, and so most people don’t even know that they exist.

Somalia claimed the number two spot in the report. A radical Islamic terror group that controls much of the country is absolutely obsessed with eradicating the Christian faith…

In Somalia, following Jesus is a matter of life and death. Al-Shabab, a violent Islamist militant group, is at war with the government and controls large swathes of the country. This group enforces a strict form of Sharia (Islamic law) and is committed to eradicating Christianity from Somalia. They have often killed Somali Christians on the spot. The dangers have increased over the years, as the militants have increasingly focused on finding and eliminating Christian leaders.

Yemen claimed the number three spot in the report. Sadly, the Houthis have absolutely no tolerance for Christians…

If someone is reported to be a Christian and or involved in Christian activities, they could face severe monitoring, arbitrary detention, torture, ill-treatment and even murder. In Houthi-controlled areas it’s dangerous to possess a Bible or other Christian books. Leaving Islam to follow Christ is seen as a huge betrayal of the native tribe—punishment by the community can include being disowned, disinherited, divorced and losing custody of their children, being banished or even murdered.

Libya claimed the number four spot in the report. The U.S. went to a great deal of effort to overthrow the government of Libya a number of years ago, but now it has become one of the most anti-Christian nations on the entire planet…

In Libya, following Jesus is a huge risk for anyone. Libyan Christians with a Muslim background face violent pressure from their families and communities to renounce their faith. Foreign Christians, especially those from sub-Saharan Africa, are targeted by Islamist militant and criminal groups. These groups kidnap and sometimes brutally kill Christians. Even if they avoid such a fate, sub-Saharan Christians face harassment and threats from radical Muslims.

Sudan claimed the number five spot in the report. A nightmarish civil war is raging in Sudan, and both sides seriously hate Christians…

After a year and a half of war, Sudan is now home to the world’s largest displacement crisis and the world’s largest hunger crisis, with nearly nine million people having been forced to flee their homes. Neither side is sympathetic to Christians, and the conflict has given Islamist extremists more opportunity to target them. More than 100 churches have been damaged so far, and Christians have been abducted and killed. Sudanese Christians who have come to faith from a Muslim background face severe backlash from their families and communities. These believers tend to keep their faith secret, even from their own children.

There are two countries that didn’t even make the top ten that I think deserve special mention.

More than a billion people live in China, and over the past several years the persecution of Christians in China has greatly intensified…

China, where persecution is also intense, has also moved up the “World Watch List,” ranking 15th on the 2025 ranking as the most difficult nation for believers; it was previously in the 19th spot.

Brown said much of the growth of the Christian church in China has been centered on small house churches — unregistered houses of worship.

“And the Chinese government, over the last couple of years, has had a very intentional and deliberate effort to stamp out many of those unregistered churches,” he said. “For those churches that are registered, there is a lot of ideological control that the state is looking to exert, looking for your pledges to the Communist Party there.”

Unless you attend one of the churches that has agreed to full ideological control by the communist government, it is very difficult to be a Christian in China these days.

More than a billion people also live in India, and more churches are being attacked in India than anywhere else in the world…

Property crimes are a key concern in India, which topped GCR’s list for targeted attacks on Christian property with 4,949 attacks. The ancient Christian community in the region of Kerala believe the Apostle Thomas planted the Christian faith during his apostolic ministry in the first century. But today, the Malankara Orthodox Church and Syro-Malabar Catholic Church face targeted assaults.

“This isn’t just random violence. Persecutors use violence to drive out Christians to take control and capture the culture in some of these countries,” said Six. “This is a decade of systematic, planned, organized occupation of some Christian areas. And it’s now at the point where every single rung of civil society and government is armed against impoverished Christian communities,” which “have no recourse.”

India engages in “mass suppression of the church,” observed Six. Yet Perkins said India is “getting a pass from many in the West, because of its growing economic power.”

What would you do if you lived in one of these countries where the persecution of Christians is rampant?

If you were faced with a life or death choice, would you be willing to die for your faith?

It is so important to know why you believe what you believe, because someday you may be faced with such a choice.

Every day, more Christians are being arrested.

Every day, more Christians are being taken to secret prisons and concentration camps.

Every day, more Christians are being tortured, and every day more Christians are being killed for what they believe.

If we won’t speak up for them, who will?

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Christianity EtcRe: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by johnw47: 11:31pm On Jan 18, 2025
Janosky:
JW's didn't connect Armageddon to 1914.
lost fraud jw janosky

watchtower said that 1914 would be the end of the time of trouble
which includes armageddon:

"we have seen that God has a set time for every feature of his plan, and that we are even now in this "Day of Vengeance," which is a period of forty years; that it began in October, 1874, and will end in October, 1914." Studies In the Scriptures - The Day of Vengeance 1911ed pp.546,547

"These, already examined, show that the close of 1874 marked the beginning, as the close of 1914 will mark the end, of this 40 years of harvest; ..." Studies In the Scriptures - Thy Kingdom Come pp.149-150

"That the deliverance of the saints must take place some time before 1914 is manifest, since the deliverance of fleshly Israel, as we shall see, is appointed to take place at that time... Just how long before 1914 the last living members of the body of Christ will be glorified, we are not directly informed;..." Studies In the Scriptures - Thy Kingdom Come (1908 ed.) p.228

"But bear in mind that the end of 1914 is not the date for the beginning, but for the end of the time of trouble. Zion's Watch Tower 1894 Jul 15 p.226




in 1941 watchtower wrote that there is just months before armageddon:

"Receiving the gift, the marching children clasped it to them, not a toy or plaything for idle pleasure, but the Lord's provided instrument for most effective work in the remaining months before Armageddon." Watchtower 1941 Sep 15 p.288



there are very many more false prophecy quotes from watchtower and company
would you like to see more?



Pro 14:5  A trustworthy witness will not lie, But a false witness utters lies.
Christianity EtcRe: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by johnw47:
Janosky:
Wetin Musa no go see for gate?
This is the first time ever that a WAILING WAILER has made that claim.
Maybe the Armageddon in his head has been done and dusted,so he came online to inform us.
grin grin
ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool

as dum as they come, lost false jw old women; janosky and mad max

it's russell and your watchtower that made all the claims/false prophecies that i posted
you people are as dum as they come, aren't you:
1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints

don't be afraid jan and max, quote the parts that cause you confusion and i will put you straight
rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.


MaxInDHouse: How can Armageddon occurred yet
so confused and dum, of course
Christianity EtcRe: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by johnw47: 10:28pm On Jan 18, 2025
Janosky:
Wetin Musa no go see for gate?
This is the first time ever that a WAILING WAILER has made that claim.
Maybe the Armageddon in his head has been done and dusted,so he came online to inform us.
grin grin
ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


lost fraud jw janosky

confusion to the max
1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints

you queer false jw's are like old women gossiping over the backyard fence, aren't you
Christianity EtcRe: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by johnw47: 10:18pm On Jan 18, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
They now have thousands of churchians who don't agree with their Trinity God so it's better to allow them do their thing after all Jehovah's Witnesses stands out completely as no part of them! smiley
lost false jw mad max
blasphemer of Jehovah and Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit

you can post to me, don't be scared, and of course you fearful satan's mob can never stop repeating your lies:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.
Christianity EtcRe: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by johnw47: 9:57pm On Jan 18, 2025
Janosky:
John LYING miscreant, you don't have brain to comprehend anything in your screenshot post you
have made.
You are very desperate to derail this thread be bringing up another strange topic not intended by the Original Poster.
Tueh !
grin grin
ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


false accuser like your father the devil, lost fraud jw janosky

Rev_12:10  Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, "Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, he who accuses them before our God day and night.

false jw, you said your org. never connected armageddon with 1914
i showed that it indeed did, and you posted back to me with lies

don't post lies to me if you are fearful of my replies, dum dum

false jw, you are a liar like your father the devil:
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

false jw's, you fear the truth:
rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.
Christianity EtcRe: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by johnw47: 12:13pm On Jan 18, 2025
Janosky:
JW's didn't connect Armageddon to 1914.
lost fraud jw janosky

more confusion from so called jehovah's witnesses:


The End the "Day of Vengeance" (Armageddon)
Armageddon, also referred to as the Day of Vengeance, and the Battle of the Great Day, was to end in October 1914.

"we have seen that God has a set time for every feature of his plan, and that we are even now in this "Day of Vengeance," which is a period of forty years; that it began in October, 1874, and will end in October, 1914." Studies In the Scriptures - The Day of Vengeance 1911ed pp.546,547

144,000 Resurrected to Heaven
The 144,000, also known as the "body of Christ" or "the saints", were to all be in heaven by 1914, prior to the completion of Armageddon.

"That the deliverance of the saints must take place some time before 1914 is manifest, since the deliverance of fleshly Israel, as we shall see, is appointed to take place at that time... Just how long before 1914 the last living members of the body of Christ will be glorified, we are not directly informed;..." Studies In the Scriptures - Thy Kingdom Come (1908 ed.) p.228

Instead of being slated to "end in October 1914", rewrites claimed (still erroneously) that Armageddon was to "end very shortly" and "very soon after".

The following poster incorporates quotes from Studies in the Scriptures - The Battle of Armageddon (1897) with images from The Photo Drama of Creation (1914), concisely depicting that despite the doomsday similarities with current teachings, Watchtower prophetic interpretation was a complete failure.


jwfacts..com

to continue


Pro 14:5  A trustworthy witness will not lie, But a false witness utters lies.

Christianity EtcRe: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by johnw47: 11:58am On Jan 18, 2025
Janosky:
The bolded is proof of your LYING and IBERIBEISM.
MUMU LYING miscreant,When did Armageddon begin?
You are indeed confused by GIBBERISH you copied online .
grin cheesy
ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


lost and very dum fraud jw janosky
and the false accuser like your father the devil:

Rev_12:10  Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, "Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, he who accuses them before our God day and night.

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire


since 1904 russell said 1914 to be the start of armageddon
watchtower said 1914 is the end of armageddon
and in 1941 watchtower then said armageddon is months away

false jw, you are as confused as your false prophet forefathers:

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints
Christianity EtcRe: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by johnw47: 9:11am On Jan 18, 2025
Janosky:
JW's didn't connect Armageddon to 1914.
lost fraud jw janosky

here is more of your confusion and lies on armageddon and 1914, and other years too:


1874 to 1914 were described as the greatest period of trouble in human history, the period of Armageddon itself, with the end of trouble to be in 1914.

The following quotes during the lead up to 1914 show there could be no doubt as to what Watchtower followers expected. The end of the Last Days in 1914 was to initiate a number of endings and new beginnings.

1914 - the end of the preaching work
1914 - the end of all religion
1914 - the wholesale destruction of all government
1914 - the end of the Great Tribulation
1914 - the end of Armageddon
1914 - Russell and his followers to be raised to heaven
1914 - Jesus' Kingdom established as paradise on earth
1914 - commencement of the earthly resurrection

The following Watchtower quotes are just a small selection that highlight how they promoted these assertions.

Harvest Work (Preaching) Complete

"HARVEST" is a term which gives a general idea as to what work should be expected to transpire between the dates 1874 and 1914." Studies In the Scriptures - Thy Kingdom Come p.135

"These, already examined, show that the close of 1874 marked the beginning, as the close of 1914 will mark the end, of this 40 years of harvest; ..." Studies In the Scriptures - Thy Kingdom Come pp.149-150

jwfacts..com

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false jw, you lie as much as your devil, don't you:
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Christianity EtcRe: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by johnw47: 8:31am On Jan 18, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Is this a publication of JWs?
It's better to allow you do whatever you want at least you know now that JWs are not on the same page with you people.
lost false jw mad max, blasphemer of Jehovah and Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit

you people are not on the same page as saved Christians, that's for sure:

Mat 7:15  Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. 
Mat 7:16  You will know them by their fruits.

some of the fruits you people are known by:
your blasphemy, your paranoia, your lies, your puffed up pride, your false prophecies, etc.
Christianity EtcRe: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47: 8:09am On Jan 18, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Please brother let's avoid this churchian
lost false jw mad max, blasphemer of jehovah and Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit

you know i am non denominational, but you people cannot stop lying ever, can you
just like the devil can't:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

MaxInDHouse: he is unreasonable that's why i ignored him completely!
why don't you have some courage and quote where i am unreasonable, and then i can show you once again to be a liar:

rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.


false jw, perhaps you can tell me what adeboye tweet has to do with me,
of course neither of you confused ones can:

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints


going by fraud jw janosky's attachment, it looks like adeboye is a false prophet like you false jw's are,
you people must think that pointing out other false prophets makes it ok that you are too, u r such dummies, aren't you
Christianity EtcRe: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by johnw47:
Janosky:
JW's didn't connect Armageddon to 1914.
lost fraud jw janosky

you false jw false prophets connected armageddon to 1914 and other years as well
you will notice they are all over the place with their false prophecies, of course:



From 1904 onward, Watchtower articles show Russell changed the start of Armageddon to be 1914.

1914 has been a pivotal date for the Watchtower. The expectations prior to 1914 included it being the end of the Gentile Times, the end of Armageddon, the fall of false religion, the end of all governments, the resurrection, the start of Jesus 1000 year reign and paradise on earth. See 1914 for a in-depth article regarding this date.

"Receiving the gift, the marching children clasped it to them, not a toy or plaything for idle pleasure, but the Lord's provided instrument for most effective work in the remaining months before Armageddon." Watchtower 1941 Sep 15 p.288

Some persons living A.D. 1914 when the series of foretold events began will also be living when the series ends with Armageddon.

1986 was the United Nations year of peace. This was an exciting time for Witnesses, due to the implication that it could be the 'cry of peace and security' that precedes Armageddon,

2000 was not stated to be the end, but there was strong indication that it would be impossible for Armageddon not to come before 2000.


The current understanding is significantly different to the original teachings. Prior to 1914, the Watchtower believed:
The Last Days began 1799
Jesus Parousia started 1874
Jesus started ruling in heaven in 1878
The Gentile Times would end in 1914, resulting in the:
end of Armageddon
fall of false religion
end of all earthly governments
heavenly and earthly resurrections
paradise on earth


jwfacts..com

to continue
Christianity EtcRe: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by johnw47: 2:12am On Jan 18, 2025
lost fraud jw janosky

you have run away again, of course

rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.
Christianity EtcRe: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by johnw47: 1:48am On Jan 18, 2025
Janosky:
JW's didn't connect Armageddon to 1914.
Since its 1879 inception, Watchtower has preached “the End” will be soon, originally predicting it would occur in 1914, then 1925, and “within our twentieth century.” This claim was subsequently adjusted to say the Great Tribulation will be very shortly, culminating in billions of humans being killed at God's war of Armageddon.

"But bear in mind that the end of 1914 is not the date for the beginning, but for the end of the time of trouble. Zion's Watch Tower 1894 Jul 15 p.226

^^ the end of trouble, the end of armageddon is in 1914
so say false jw false prophets


of course when the years fail, they choose another year


1 John 4:1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.

Pro 14:5  A trustworthy witness will not lie, But a false witness utters lies.
Christianity EtcRe: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by johnw47: 1:20am On Jan 18, 2025
Janosky:
Confused 3 deities devotees,, you Know ZERO about the Bible or let alone the historical antecedents of your Trinitarian mentors.
Check Malachi 3:1 & Genesis 16:7 in your Trinitarian Amplified Reference Bible and Geneva Bible older than your KJV Bible.
This kid,carry your naivety out of this thread.
grin cheesy
ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool



lost fraud jw janosky

u r forever loving to blaspheme and call; Yahovah and Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit of the Bible:
"3 deities" which is 3 gods:

false jw blasphemer:
Mat 12:31  Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. 
Mat 12:32  Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.

false jw your reward is coming:
Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire
Christianity EtcRe: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by johnw47:
Janosky:
John LYING miscreant doesn't know the difference between the end of Gentile Times is NOT 1914.
Coman continue WAILING.
grin grin.
ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


lost fraud jw janosky

once again, quote my lies,
most dum one, my post wasn't about the end of gentile times but about all the false prophecies you false jw's have given for armageddon;

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints

Rev_12:10  Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, "Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, he who accuses them before our God day and night.



and you false prophets have said that 1914 is the end of the gentile times:

From this, they conclude that Daniel chapter 4 prophesied a period of 2,520 years, from 607 BC until 1914. They equate this period with the "Gentile Times" or "the appointed times of the nations," a phrase taken from Luke 21:24.

Eschatology of Jehovah's Witnesses - Wikipedia


false jw, you lie like your father the devil:
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Christianity EtcRe: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47:
Janosky:
John LYING miscreant
Why are you so IBERIBEISTIC?
What did his tweet of February 2016 predict about the Naira?
Must you always spread your IBERIBEISM?
lost false accuser like the devil, fraud jw janosky

quote my lies:
Rev_12:10  Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, "Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, he who accuses them before our God day and night.


and what has pastor adeboye tweet got to do with me,
and with the fact that you false jw's are false prophets:

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints
Christianity EtcRe: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by johnw47: 12:04am On Jan 18, 2025
Janosky:
"1914 neared, expectations heightened. What would it mean? In The Bible Students Monthly (Volume VI, No. 1, published early in 1914), Brother Russell wrote: “If we have the correct date and chronology, Gentile Times will end this year—1914. What of it? We do not surely know. Our expectation is that the active rule of Messiah will begin about the time of the ending of the lease of power to the Gentiles.
Mr Russell emphasized that he did not expect the “end of the world” in 1914 and that the earth abides forever,
The end of the Gentile Times is NOT Armageddon.
** John LYING miscreant.
grin grin grin.,
ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


very confused and lost fraud jw janosky

false jw's are all over the place on what they say,
i have posted many false jw prophecies of armageddon supposed to happen in many diffrent years including 1914
would you like me to post them again here?
happy to do so

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints

false jw, liar like your father the devil:
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

false jw, false accuser like your father the devil:
Rev_12:10  Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, "Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, he who accuses them before our God day and night.
Christianity EtcRe: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by johnw47:
Janosky:
JW's didn't connect Armageddon to 1914.
lost fraud jw janosky

In 1889, Charles Taze Russell published his interpretation of eschatology and chronology based on the idea of parallel "dispensations". He wrote that the culmination of Armageddon would occur in 1914, preceded by the gathering of all the saints, both resurrected and living, to heaven.

Jehovah's Witnesses have held different beliefs about when Armageddon will happen over the years, including in the 1920s, 1960s, 1970s

Eschatology of Jehovah's Witnesses - Wikipedia


cannot stop lying false jw:
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Christianity EtcRe: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47:
Janosky:
John W vWAILING WAILER in sifia pains.
In February 2016, your gods of men predicted rise of Naira against the dollar, you know that prophecy has fulfilled backwards.
grin grin
ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool



lost fraud jw janosky

am not wailing, not in sifia pains, don't have gods of men,
but you false jw's can never stop lying and falsely accusing, can you,
lies are what your posts are full off:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Rev_12:10  Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, "Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, he who accuses them before our God day and night.



confused false jw, why are you posting pastor adeboye to me?

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints
Christianity EtcRe: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47: 9:46pm On Jan 17, 2025
Study: Nearly 400 Million Christians Persecuted Globally; Islamism and Communism Main Drivers
The Christian aid organization Open Doors published its annual World Watch List – a ranking of the most dangerous places in the world to practice the Christian faith – on Wednesday, which found that 380 million Christians around the world face severe persecution.
https://www.breitbart.com/faith/2025/01/15/study-nearly-400-million-christians-persecuted-globally-islamism-and-communism-main-drivers/
Christianity EtcRe: Is The Holy Spirit God? by johnw47: 10:39pm On Jan 16, 2025
Rev_2:9  .... those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan.

Rev_3:9  .... those of the synagogue of Satan, who say that they are Jews and are not ....
Christianity EtcRe: Is The Holy Spirit God? by johnw47: 9:34am On Jan 16, 2025
sonmvayina:
I have said this a thousand times...
They are myths, teaching moral and spiritual truths...
torah mythman

scholars have said the Torah is considered to be a collection of myths

2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them

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