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MaxInDHouse:
A careful reading, diligent study and thorough meditation on what is written in the Bible shows that Jesus is an angel but where JWs and most Christendom churches disagree is whether Jesus is the Archangel Michael or a part of the Trinitarian Godhead but one thing is certain: He is the angel of the LORD!
https://versebyverseministry.org/bible-answers/how-do-we-know-the-angel-of-the-lord-is-jesus

false jw mad max

at least you rightly separate so called Jehovah's witnesses from Christians



Christendom

1. the collective body of Christians throughout the world or throughout history.
2. an obsolete word for Christianity.

MaxInDHouse:
Jehovah's Organization.
God's last minute blessing to mankind!

false jw mad max

Christians are all about the Lord Jesus Christ,
you so called Jehovah's witnesses are all about yourselves

false jw supporter:
How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us

false jw:
Jehovah's Organization. God's last minute blessing to mankind!

fraud jw, your lies and paranoia and blasphemy etc. etc. are not blessings to mankind
oh dum as they come one


Pro 16:5  Everyone who is proud in heart is an abomination to the LORD;

you puffed up/proud in heart false jw's are an abomination to Jehovah

MaxInDHouse:
The unforgivable sin!

blasphemer of the Holy Spirit lost false jw mad max

anyone who tells a lie and say's that the Holy Spirit told them that, like you did,
has sinned a unforgivable sin against the Holy Spirit:

Mat 12:31  Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. 
Mat 12:32  Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire

the so called Jehovah's witnesses are not Christians like the rest of us
they are false prophets etc.

continued from the thread: "Who are Jehovah's witnesses"

In 1876, Russell became interested in time prophecy, after reading a copy of Barbour's publication Herald of the Morning. The end had not come in 1874, as the Adventists had predicted. However, Barbour explained that Matthew 24:27 meant Jesus' invisible presence commenced in 1874, the rapture would be 1878, and the end of the world was to occur in 1914. (See Watch Tower, 1906 July 15 for a detailed account.)

In Russell's doctrinal chronology the most important dates were 1874 and 1914:

"The chapter in SCRIPTURE STUDIES, Vol. II, showing the parallels between the Jewish and Christian Dispensations, makes prominent four dates, viz., (1) October, 1874; (2) April, 1878; (3) October, 1881, and (4) October, 1914;" Watch Tower 1911 June 15 p.190

"The careful student will have observed that the period designated 'The Time of the End' is very appropriately named, since not only does the Gospel age close in it, but in it, also, all prophesies relating to the close of this age terminate, reaching their fulfillments. The same class of readers will have noticed, too, the special importance of the last 40 of these 115 years (1874-1914), called 'The End' or 'Harvest.'" Studies in the Scriptures Series III - Thy Kingdom Come p.121

The below timeline shows Russell's preached the Second Coming of Jesus was 1874, and the start of the 1000 year earthly reign was 1914, as it was to end in 2914 A.D.

jwfacts dot com

thread title: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses?

so called Jehovah's witnesses are false prophets just to mention one thing
Changed Date prophecies beginning in the 1800s:

This section covers some of the lesser known failed predictions and changed date doctrine of the Watchtower Society. For the more important dates see the pages on 1914, 1925, 1975. Many of the following quotes are from the Watchtower Society's Studies in the Scriptures Series. Links to free scanned copies of these books are at Historical Publications.

Jesus said he would provide his followers Holy Spirit to correctly understand what the future holds.

"However, when that one arrives, the spirit of the truth, he will guide YOU into all the truth, for he will not speak of his own impulse, but what things he hears he will speak, and he will declare to YOU the things coming." John 16:13

Whereas doctrine is subjective and un-provable, time prophecy leaves no room for error. On a number of occasions the Watchtower put a line in the sand when saying a specific event was going to happen on a specific date. When those dates passed without event those statements proved beyond argument to be false. When something predicted to happen does not occur there is irrefutable evidence that Jehovah did not direct the interpretation. In line with the Scriptures above, the following incorrect dates prove the Watchtower Society is not guided by Jehovah.

to continue from jwfacts dot com

MaxInDHouse:
Wonderful thread!

false jw mad max

of course you don't care that Jehovah is against you:

johnw47: Jehovah's word proves what fools you people are:
Pro_26:11 Like a dog that returns to its vomit Is a fool who repeats his folly.

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire

MaxInDHouse:
Great thread!

false jw mad max

u prove over and over and over again how queer you people are,
and Jehovah's word proves what fools you people are:
Pro_26:11 Like a dog that returns to its vomit Is a fool who repeats his folly.

Courz:
Very good thread like this below where many bible verse were changed in your Bible and you guys made a fool of yourselves there.


https://www.nairaland.com/8088472/manipulation-bible-verses-jehovahs-witness

look at how queer the fools that call themselves Jehovah's witnesses are,
all of these are from just this one page:

MaxInDHouse: Wonderful thread!

Aemmyjah: Sweet thread

Aemmyjah: Good thread

Aemmyjah: Nice thread

Aemmyjah: Wonderful thread

MaxInDHouse: Wonderful thread!

MaxInDHouse: Great thread!

MaxInDHouse: Wonderful thread!

MaxInDHouse: Great thread

MaxInDHouse: Wonderful thread

MaxInDHouse: Great thread

MaxInDHouse: Wonderful thread

they do it often where they have nothing and are shown to be wrong and fools,

false jw's aemmy and mad max:
Pro_26:11  Like a dog that returns to its vomit Is a fool who repeats his folly.

MaxInDHouse:
At times something will just enter his head and the next move is to start looking for JWs to exchange words!

false jw mad max

you people cannot help but lie constantly, taking after your father the devil, of course

it was cornelboy who a couple of days ago on the 12th february 2025 posted to acholadey about achorladey's post from way back in Jun 27, 2024
that bought acholadey here to reply

false jw's:
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Janosky:
If you really love yourself, do research with your Bible and find the answers.
Post your findings on this forum.
Or:
Oga, if you are not seeking attention and arguments, just seek out your fellow Trinity worshipping devotees and mingle with them, to exchange Intel from your ghost deity.
JW's no get your time.
Period!

fraud jw janosky

u r 4ever loving to mock/blaspheme "The Holy Spirit"
calling Him "ghost diety/ghost god"

truly your reward is coming:

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire

Mat 12:31  Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. 
Mat 12:32  Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.

Janosky:
Your fellow Trinitarians devotees believed what your ghost deity taught them.
Please humble yourself to receive the same intel given to Martin Luther and other Trinitarians.

ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


fraud jw janosky

u r 4ever loving to mock/blaspheme "The Holy Spirit"
calling Him "ghost diety/ghost god"

truly your reward is coming:

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire

Mat 12:31  Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. 
Mat 12:32  Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.

Kobojunkie:
Which kain yeye question be this one abeg? You are told that so long as you are part of the religion of Christianity, you belong to at least one of its over 45,000 different denominations, each spotting a different image of the Christian deity, yet this is the question you think to come back at me with? 😏
The Christian deity is responsible for producing well over 45,000 different confusions — images of itself that contradict themselves. Definitely, the Christian deity is not the same deity that the writer of the text you quoted referenced, no matter how much you wish for him to be.😏

truly confused dum dum junkie, if someone does not attend or follow a denomination,
then that someone is not part of a denomination, u so dum, aren't you:

1Co 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion,

Kobojunkie:
Storyland! So, as long as you make Christianity your lot, you are part of at least one of its many denominations. No long stories are necessary to understand this simple fact!

dum dum junkie, if one does not attend or follow a denomination,
how is he part of a denomination:

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion,

achorladey:
I bid you many many returns on the best things this year too jare. My greetings the family as well.

I sit down jeje that cornelboy wandering about mentioned me. I thought it was a new thread, I checked page 61. So fast, what was the topic all about that got this far only to go to page 1 and see the title of the thread changed and no doubt just like you said it was a classic case of revisionist trying to repaint a bad stuff good but failed therefore the need for complete cover up.

I remember Johnw47 repeatedly used their magazines to expose the lies About Jesus returning in 1914.

That is how they perpetrate lies in the name of we are Jehovah’s organization, thr only religious organization doing God's will on earth.

so called Jehovah's witnesses are among the biggest liars on earth,
and in their delusions they claim to be God's people

those false jw liars/false accusers, by their own lying mouths show that they are of course the devil's people; john 8:44, rev 12:10, etc.

by the way, false jw mad max also lied that i am emusan,
he lied that olaadegbu is emusan, and of course other false jw's blindly believe him, 2cor 4:4

but emusan and you and olaadegbu and me have this in common; "we show up a few of mad max's very many lies"



false jw's paranoia is fear, rev 21:8

cornelboy:
Hey what's your religion now, or you still wandering around?

false jw corny boy
hey, you still wandering around loving to believe and spread lies, of course:

Mat 15:19 For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

achorladey: I laugh when he manipulated Aemmyjah and Cornelboy into thinking Achorladey = Emusan and then they ended up being worst fools on nairaland

You see those dancing to the lies and manipulations while being fools

mad max deceives aemmy and corny boy and they all be fools

Pro_14:8  ... the folly of fools is deceit.

Aemmyjah: If all the brothers will ignore him this year
You're doing him good for his mental state

MaxInDHouse:
The funny thing about him is how he feels honored when his faithless friends are hailing him.

false jw's mad max and aemmy

you people love to forever make up lies, of course:

Mat 15:19  For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies: 

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire

Aemmyjah:
Hey man
What's up
long time
Just ignore that ignoramus

false jw aemmy

dum dum, it's corny boy who posted to achorladey today,
about a post of 8 months ago:

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints


you people keep saying how you are Jehovah's peaceable people
but your posts show that you are full of confusion and lies and paranoia etc.

your god of puffed up lies and confusion and paranoia etc. is the devil

Pro 14:5  A trustworthy witness will not lie, But a false witness utters lies.

achorladey:
The worst fool on Nairaland that says Achorladey = Emusan
join his madness and insanities peddling brains to say I am an atheist with no evidence.

Lies and manipulations packed into your madness and insanities peddling brains didn't end in 2024.

How come the title of this thread changed to JW 008. A testament of the ways of Jehovah's Witnesses when caught in outright lies they start manipulating whatever they have put out there to look good.

false jw's mad max, corny boy, and aemmy, are all paranoid and believe each others lies,
false jw's are the great false accusers like the devil: "whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking"
they love to share their lies from their hearts with each other:

Mat 15:19  For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies: 



this thread; 'jw 008' used to be called something like; 'Jesus returned in 1914'
maybe yet again they have changed that false prophecy to another falsity

so called Jehovah's witnesses:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

paranoia is fear:

rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire

Exo_20:16  "You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
Pro 14:5 A trustworthy witness will not lie, But a false witness utters lies.
Pro_19:5  A false witness will not go unpunished, And he who tells lies will not escape.
Pro_19:9  A false witness will not go unpunished, And he who tells lies will perish.
Pro_21:28  A false witness will perish,
Mar_10:19  "You know the commandments, 'DO NOT MURDER, DO NOT COMMIT ADULTERY, DO NOT STEAL, DO NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS, Do not defraud, HONOR YOUR FATHER AND MOTHER.'"

^^ Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire

false jw's:
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Janosky:
'Uncreated angel" doesn't exist anywhere.
John W, Please allow your brain to function just once.

ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool



fraud jw janosky

talk about a non functioning brain

the Word is not a created angelic being, He is a messanger of God His Father
of course you cannot see the diffrence:

2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them

the Word made everything that was made, Father God made nothing by Himself, john 1:3,
showing that the Word was not made

Janosky: Did the Trinity doctrine begin with John W?
John 8:44, the devil is the father of the lie because LYING begins with him.
Likewise, Trinity doctrine began at Nicene 326 AD.
Those guys are your mentors.
Your denial makes you a proven liar.

so very confused false jw

once again, show that i am trinitarian, show that trinitarians are my mentors:

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints

1Co_6:10  nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God.


lost false jw, you people cannot ever stop falsely accusing and lying like your father the devil, can you:

Rev_12:10  Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, "Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, he who accuses them before our God day and night.

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire



janonsnse, don't go fearfully running away again, will you:

rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.


g u r dum, aren't u

MaxinDHouse: when Jesus returned to heaven, he was again Michael

false jw mad max

when Jesus returned to heaven, He was again; "The Word of God"

Rev 19:13  He is clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God.

Janosky:
Prejudiced guesses in your fellow Trinitarian 1599 Geneva Bible.
Prejudiced guesses by your fellow Trinitarian pastors Charles Spurgeon and reformer, Martin Luther to name a few?
Your ghost deity. guiding them found you unworthy of such high level Intel.
Your gods of men no reach the level to know.

ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


fraud jw janosky:
Mat 12:31  Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. 
Mat 12:32  Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire

Janosky:
Your fellow Trinitarians devotees & protestant Reformers, staunch Trinitarians led by the same ghost deity deceiving you, rejected your claims.
1599 Geneva Bible translated and published by your fellow Trinitarians.
Do I have to remind you that Geneva Bible is far older than your KJV?
Go and examine the Bible evidence for their beliefs that Jesus is archangel Michael.
Your WAILING upandan doesn't change the fact that your fellow Trinitarians devotees believed the doctrine you are denying.
The same ghost deity gives conflicting intel to Trinitarians.
😂😂😂

ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


fraud jw janosky

peoples different opinions are just that - their different opinions, and has nothing to do with the Holy Spirit,
the Holy Spirit certainly does not give conflicting opinions as you love to lie and say, but of course you lost false jw's love to
blaspheme and call Him names as well; "the ghost deity", "the unholy ghost", "the ole demon ghost", "one head of a three headed dog", etc.

Mat 12:31  Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. 
Mat 12:32  Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire


the attachments i have seen you post are not the geneva bible, but are footnotes/commentaries/opinions, on some matters.
for instance, the geneva bible doesn't say michael is Jesus, it's just the opinion of someones associated with geneva bible

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints

i'm not for or against trump at this stage, but if not putting his hand on the Bible was for Biblical reasons below,
then good for him:

Mat 5:33  "Again, you have heard that the ancients were told, 'YOU SHALL NOT MAKE FALSE VOWS, BUT SHALL FULFILL YOUR VOWS TO THE LORD.' 
Mat 5:34 "But I say to you, make no oath at all, either by heaven, for it is the throne of God, 
Mat 5:35  or by the earth, for it is the footstool of His feet, or by Jerusalem, for it is THE CITY OF THE GREAT KING. 
Mat 5:36  "Nor shall you make an oath by your head, for you cannot make one hair white or black. 
Mat 5:37  "But let your statement be, 'Yes, yes' or 'No, no'; anything beyond these is of evil.

so by not putting his hand on the Bible, perhaps he was not performing an oath but simply making an affirmation
 

Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:— "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."


all these court houses that want you to take a oath,
pity they don't know God's laws or requirements

MaxInDHouse:
CHRISTENDOM: different religions with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines claiming followers of Christ are from pagan roots that's paganism for you but TRUE CHRISTIANS practice a religion that benefits humanity!

lost false jw mad max, blasphemer of Jehovah and of Jesus Christ and of the Holy Spirit

of course you people lie about everything,
false jw's:
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.


Christendom

1. the collective body of Christians throughout the world or throughout history.
2. an obsolete word for Christianity.


Christendom = Christianity
of course there are false christians like you so called Jehovah's witnesses false prophets
and there are true Christians saved by God's grace:

Eph 2:8  For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; 
Eph 2:9  not as a result of works, so that no one may boast. 

^^ puffed up boasters, claiming to be God's people
and boasting of their works

jwfacts..com

Mental Illness Amongst Jehovah's Witnesses - continue

John Spencer
The Mental Health of Jehovah's Witnesses by John Spencer is widely quoted though the findings are dubious. This found that in the 3 year period from 1971 to and including 1973, 7,546 inpatients were admitted to the West Australian Mental Health Service Psychiatric Hospitals, of which 50 were active Witnesses. This represents a rate of 2.54/1000 for the general population and 4.17/1000 for Jehovah's Witnesses. Particularly high was the rate of Schizophrenics amongst Witnesses.

Jerry Bergman
The following excerpts are summarized quotes from PARADISE POSTPONED...AND POSTPONED: Why Jehovah's Witnesses Have a High Mental Illness Level. Jerry Bergman has researched and written extensively about Jehovah's Witnesses. As a former Witness his findings may be considered biased, however the reasoning he provides merits consideration.

Rylander's Study
In 1946, Gosta Rylander investigated a sample of conscientious objectors imprisoned in Sweden. About four percent of the eligible Swedish population was judged psychologically "unfit" for military service, and the corresponding figure for Witnesses was 21 percent, or five times greater. This is close to the same ratio later found by John Spencer, whose diagnosis of "psychotic" or "neurotic" was made on the basis of mental hospital admission screening.

The First American Study
In 1949, in the first study on American Witness mental health, M. J. Pescor diagnosed as psychotic over seven percent of his total sample of 177 young males imprisoned due to obeying the Watchtower's prohibition against complying with military regulations. The level of Witness psychosis in his sample was about 17 times higher than that for the population as a whole.

Montague and Other Researchers
Havor Montague (another name Jerry Bergman publishes under) monitored the admissions to state and private mental hospitals and local mental health clinics in Ohio from 1972 to 1976. From this study of 102 cases, he estimated, "The mental illness rate of JWs is approximately 10 to 16 times higher than the rate for the general, nonWitness population... From his intensive interviews with Witness patients and others, Montague concluded that persons who had emotional problems were attracted to the Witnesses, but involvement also caused many of the emotional problems that they suffered. This is evident from the fact that many with problems reported they were far happier after they left.

what good news do so called Jehovah's witnesses preach here,
what they mainly do here is keep trying to convince that they are God's people,
of which they fail miserably

many sects and so called churches claim to be God's mob

^^ young ones like that have been killed/died, because their so called Jehovah's witness parents
refused to allow blood transfusions which would have saved their life's

lost fraud jw janosky

you have run away yet again, of course:

rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.

Janosky:
What a dunce deluding himself!
Revelation meaning "
1.a surprising and previously unknown fact that has been disclosed to others."
John later wrote Revelation 3:14
Jesus " is the beginning of the creation by God".
Revelation 3:14 is an update on John 1:3.
John double dunce LYING miscreant .

talk about a deluded dunce and a lying miscreant and a lover of false doctrines

ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool



lost fraud jw janosky

Joh 1:3  All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being.

^^ nothing was created except through Jesus so you need to understand those scriptures that you like to believe contradict john 1:3



Rev 3:14  To the angel of the church in Laodicea write: These are the words of the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the (arche) ruler of God's creation. 

the word is "arche" which means; "ruler", "chief"

just like michael is the archangel; "archeaggelos" = ruling angel or chief angel




false jw false accuser like your father the devil:
Rev_12:10  Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, "Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, he who accuses them before our God day and night.

false jw liar like your father the devil:
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

MaxInDHouse:
Let him go and ask Paul Grundy what he thinks about Jesus since he's always quoting him!

lost false jw mad max, blasphemer of Jehovah and Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit

you of course cannot stop lying like your father the devil, i quote from so called Jehovah's witnesses literature
at the jw facts site, false jw you know that you cannot stop lying like your father the devil, don't you:
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Janosky:
Revelation 3:14 , Jesus is the beginning of creation by God "
Please Remove Revelation 3:14 from your Bible.
The same John wrote Revelation 3:14 & John 1:3.
You can't discard Revelation 3:14 because it hurts your delusion.

ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


lost fraud jw janosky

so you believe that God's word contradicts God's word, of course you people believe that

God made nothing without the Word, showing that the Word is not made:
Joh 1:3  All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being.