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 Christianity Etc › Re: If You Are To See God Face To Face And Ask Him One Question. by johnydon22(m): 7:40pm On Jan 30, 2016 |
Which one are you? 2 Likes 2 Shares |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Religious Forgiveness Or Escape Route? by johnydon22(op): 11:47pm On Jan 29, 2016 |
Nubian113:  ok 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Religious Forgiveness Or Escape Route? by johnydon22(op): 11:34pm On Jan 29, 2016 |
Nubian113:hahahahahaha Muslims are just easy to toil with ... .. if you get pissed there are two options.1) Bleep off the thread 2)strap a bomb and do what Muslims who gets pissed do best. I give no flying fuuuck.. 1 Like 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Religious Forgiveness Or Escape Route? by johnydon22(op): 11:25pm On Jan 29, 2016 |
Nubian113:Think its time you snapped out of your fantasy. That you believe and respect a book doesn't mean others who don't believe such book owe you any obligation of respecting that book. Believing it or respecting it is your own cup of tea.. Nobody owe you nothing in that regard... One can make a valid point without belittling other people's beliefs. That is a sign of intelligence for me.Somehow you are under the illusion that your opinion matters in this regard... A belief that is vulnerable to being belittled shows one that is starkly shabby ... anything that can be belittled by the truth deserves to be belittled. Ask SonofLucifer he will explain it without comparing the Bible, Qur'an ect with fictional books like harry potter. That guy write too much without reasoning.As a matter of fact both the bible and the Quran hoards an enormous amount of fiction just like Harry Potter. Splitting moon, flying horses.. nobody owes you any obligation of respecting the book you respect... You should take your advice and reason and perhaps snap out of your illusion that others should respect some shabby book just because you believe it If referring to the Quran as a work of literature like every other book gets to you this way then you be ready to cry me a river. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Religious Forgiveness Or Escape Route? by johnydon22(op): 11:06pm On Jan 29, 2016 |
dalaman:Because she believes it... I am tempted to refer to it as lunacy now.. what is the difference between the Quran and Lord of the rings? Both contain fictitious creatures and characters.. Flying horse thingy Buraq, dividing the moon and other load of bullocks in the Quran, trolls and elfs with orcs in the Lord of the rings.. The only difference is that there are actually humans who believe the Quran to be true and they want so bad to heap this on the public or earn respect for propagating such balderdash 2 Likes 2 Shares |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Photos :take A Look At This Nairaland End Time Church... by johnydon22(m): 10:50pm On Jan 29, 2016*. Modified: 6:31pm On Jan 30, 2016 |
The funny thing is these con-men will pull out "it is the end time" brouhaha to scare feeble sheepish and gullible followers and the same time collect their money from them. You haven't stopped to wonder "If they really think it is the end time why in the would they need money when time's already up?" Such nonsensical beliefs strives in the boat of masses paddled by ignorance... Africans should think for themselves and emancipate themselves from the clutches of con-men selling lethal medieval myths and superstition 4 Likes 3 Shares |
| Science/Technology › Re: Are We Alone In The Universe? by johnydon22(m): 10:39pm On Jan 29, 2016 |
taurus25:We may yet see it because the way technology is advancing is almost scary. So many interesting events are coming up sooner than we think 7 Likes 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Religious Forgiveness Or Escape Route? by johnydon22(op): 8:44pm On Jan 29, 2016*. Modified: 9:07pm On Jan 29, 2016 |
urahara:hahaha so true.. they all recognize the diversity in opinions and rights of people to hold them regarding every other idea out there but if it is about their religious ideas "No no no you have no right to hold a different opinion about it, respect my religion"  Good one bro 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Science/Technology › Re: Are We Alone In The Universe? by johnydon22(m): 8:27pm On Jan 29, 2016*. Modified: 9:21pm On Feb 01, 2016 |
taurus25:[b]You see the question of "Are we alone?" has been one that has bothered mankind from the advent of it's intelligence.. From the On set of civilization and Science known as Natural Philosophy to the ancients man has always gazed and wondered in awe of the cosmos. -First it was the question of "Are we alone in this world?" then man realized that he was not, he met many other life forms neighbouring him in this planet and also met many other just like him but with distinctions. Man met other civilization and societies just like his. -Then came the Question "Is our Planet alone?" this one is as old as study of the sky itself (astrology in ancient terms) .. Man wondered if this "Earth" that harboured him, if there were other ones just like it or is it the only one? Yet again this question was answered in time and it dawned on mankind that "His planet" is not alone. there are many like it and together they are under one system. -Then arose the question "Is this our system (solar system) alone?" Not until the 20th century did our technology advance enough to detect other planets from neighbouring stars. It dawned on mankind that there are in fact "Other Solar systems like his and they number in their countless numbers".. Mankind learnt that most of the stars it gaze at at night all have planets orbiting them, they are systems of their own and there is a wild and vast collection of these celestial bodies. Galaxy... -Right from the medieval ages man has always wondered if his own galaxy was the only in the cosmos Yet just like every other question yielded disappointing answers showing mankind it is nothing too special, the reality of other galaxies delivered another blow. Mankind realized his galaxy was not the only one but just 1 out of countless others like it. That was a staggering revelation brought to light by the Young Edwin Hubble. Now since man have seen he is not alone in the planet, his planet is not alone in the system and his system is not the only one around and his galaxy is just a tiny bit of a monstrous whole. .. Curiosity grew because we realized that we are no more special than we make ourselves to be in our ego. Since the advancement of technology the picture became clearer and man saw more galaxies, planets, systems than he ever could have imagined. It then gave rise to the ultimate questions.. -Are we alone in terms of life ? -Is our universe the only one there is or yet another tiny part of a numerous lot. ARE WE ALONE IN TERMS OF LIFE It seems the answer is "Hell No we are not" for most people you will throw this question to, because anyone who considers the vastness of the universe would think it is ridiculous for man to think he is alone. But let it be known that when MAN refers to "life" it uses his own perception of it which stems from his own knowledge of it around him, so LIFE in general as regards it's probable distinct manifestations in the universe may be enormously more than what we think. Of course there are only two possibilities .. 1) either we are 2)or we are not. Number one is very unlikely and almost improbable, the second in as much as it is very likely is far fetched considering that an enormous distance stands between us and exploration of the cosmos. But it is almost an absurd thought to imagine we can be alone in the cosmos where there are countless stars around and trillions of them passing our so called "Goldilock" test. all the stars we see at night are all a tiny circle in our galaxy now consider the vastness of such galaxy. Not only if we are the only life but are they also intelligent? If we consider that out of all the millions of species in the planet only 1 evolved to a state of technological advancement shows that the possibility of a technologically able alien civilization is slimmer than just "Alien life" But yet again there will always be need for us to re-evaluate our idea of what LIFE is because since life arises in relation to it's environment we cannot hope to expect "Life" anything close to what we have on earth. there have been environments on earth where we assume it is impossible for life to exist in but yet surprisingly we find life thriving there.. we are carbon based life forms and we are mainly made up of Oxygen, Carbon, Hydrogen and Nitrogen ... And these elements are the most common elements in the whole universe alongside Helium. so we are nothing special but are products of the most common things found in the universe now consider the possibilities. So we should widen our expectations .. We are looking, both in our back yard neighbourhood Mars and Europa or other candidates in our solar system and with hopeful breakthroughs in the future space transportations we may yet explore the cosmos. and again keep up the hope even though it is a very slim chance of establishing contact with technologically prone aliens since we have been sending radio signals through out all directions of space.. it is almost an improbable chance but we may yet be surprised. IS OUR UNIVERSE THE ONLY ONE OR YET AGAIN ANOTHER TINY BIT OF A NUMEROUS LOT I will let this pass since it is not the subject of this thread, maybe it will be our subject of discussion next time. [/b] 101 Likes 10 Shares |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Religious Forgiveness Or Escape Route? by johnydon22(op): 7:57pm On Jan 29, 2016*. Modified: 8:14pm On Jan 29, 2016 |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Religious Forgiveness Or Escape Route? by johnydon22(op): 7:48pm On Jan 29, 2016 |
Nubian113:Your opinion, your business honey  .. I say again "I am responsible for my assertions you are responsible for what you understand |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Religious Forgiveness Or Escape Route? by johnydon22(op): 7:47pm On Jan 29, 2016 |
bqlekan:Alright bro |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Religious Forgiveness Or Escape Route? by johnydon22(op): 7:41pm On Jan 29, 2016 |
bqlekan:Lmao.. Like i said i think you need to visit various ideas of varying philosophies on spirituality... Till then i cannot hope you understand that 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Religious Forgiveness Or Escape Route? by johnydon22(op): 7:40pm On Jan 29, 2016*. Modified: 4:22pm On Feb 03, 2016 |
Nubian113:Bible, Quran are both works of human literature same goes with Harry potter, enuma elis and the likes.. So what ever your sentimental attachment towards a particular book is doesn't take it off the category of being a work of literature which i was referring to.. It all rests in what you understand if your sentimental attachment towards the Quran inclines you to place it higher than any other literary works i also hold Lord of the rings in high esteem but that personal sentiment doesn't change it from being a work of literature. So your misplacement of my meanings remains of your own doing 3 Likes 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Religious Forgiveness Or Escape Route? by johnydon22(op): 7:36pm On Jan 29, 2016 |
Nubian113:Now you can see your misunderstanding was of your own doing.. there was no relation between " Many times you can learn something deep from the stupidest of books, learn something full of wisdom in comedy films and a good moral light from anything you lay your hands on." with the following sentences. I was only buttressing the point that knowledge can be gained from places unexpected. Then started a new sentence " Book or film, Harry Potter, Lord of the rings, Enuma elish, bible, quran. which i finished with "There is always something noble in human poetry"…… I always say, i am responsible for what i write not responsible to understand it for people.. I believe you may now see i never called your holy book silly here too curious you didn't also imply i called it a comedy book. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Religious Forgiveness Or Escape Route? by johnydon22(op): 7:28pm On Jan 29, 2016 |
Nubian113:Stupid books  please point out to me where i called them silly here.. Please i do not like it when people conjure words to accuse me..Please show me |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Religious Forgiveness Or Escape Route? by johnydon22(op): 7:22pm On Jan 29, 2016 |
bqlekan:Lmao i know more about the Concept of spiritualism as regards spirity claims more than you can ever imagine... Many people have many distinct ideas roped to the concept of spiritualism..You may look up distinct philosophies to confirm this, so spirituality is not restricted to that basic basic idea you are imagining .. What i gave you is my own usage and idea of that word not yours  1 Like 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Religious Forgiveness Or Escape Route? by johnydon22(op): 7:21pm On Jan 29, 2016 |
Nubian113:Hahahaha its not so surprising the selfishness in human nature.. Am sure "Bible" & "Enuma elish" which also are religious books were also on my list, i do not see you protesting for them but once it involves yours, this happens..lol. You could have read more and you would have seen i didn't in anyway discredit these books rather even compliments them .. In my own words as regards these words of literature. "There is always something noble in human art and poetry... But we understand though... Goodnight  2 Likes 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Religious Forgiveness Or Escape Route? by johnydon22(op): 7:17pm On Jan 29, 2016 |
bqlekan:Oh you are right here, Depends on my own idea of spiritualism. If by spiritualism you are referring to spirity realm of flying angels and thunder grabbing entities with golden mansions all all other absurd higi haga abound then surely enough everyone knows my stance on that. If i can borrow the word "Spiritual" it will be to quantify the deep and profound wonder and sense of belonging that comes with realizing you are part and a whole of a vast cosmos and everything in it are no different from the other or external to it's fundamentals. My usage of the word "spiritual" surely enough is not in the sense you may imagine, i just borrowed the word 1 Like 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Religious Forgiveness Or Escape Route? by johnydon22(op): 7:11pm On Jan 29, 2016 |
Nubian113:You see in all aspect of human socialism and interactions there is always something profound and deep to deduct. Many times you can learn something deep from the stupidest of books, learn something full of wisdom in comedy films and a good moral light from anything you lay your hands on. Book or film, Harry Potter, Lord of the rings, Enuma elish, bible, quran. there is always something noble in human art and poetry .. so learning encompasses all branch of life, knowledge from one angle leaves it unbalanced but gain from every angle can bring a sense of equilibrium as regards your applications of these learning. But as regards morality, Morality is not Islamic anymore than it is Christian or Hindu .. Morality is Human, it belongs to no ism not in the least. It is not dependent upon any Book, Creed Or Claim of supernatural for fundamental basis because morality is a human fundamental itself 1 Like 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Religious Forgiveness Or Escape Route? by johnydon22(op): 6:58pm On Jan 29, 2016 |
bqlekan:Hahahaha your idea of spirituality is subscribing to the moral idea of another... lmao.. You see how vague it is? This your religion and its ethical lay outs are still products of a society because it takes members of a society to incite such ideology... So you see? you are still following societal dictates tagged "Spirituality".. You should be good to others because you want good to happen, because you are compassionate and empathic towards them not because a guy named muhammed told you a God told him things you shouldn't do.. If anything deserves to be dubbed "spiritual" in the sense of a profound essence of morality then am sure we all know the words in red describes it better.. 1 Like 2 Shares |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Religious Forgiveness Or Escape Route? by johnydon22(op): 6:43pm On Jan 29, 2016 |
bqlekan:Then my advice is, Find out now that which you should have made that is the mark of independent reason and principles... 1 Like 1 Share |
| Science/Technology › Re: Are We Alone In The Universe? by johnydon22(m): 6:42pm On Jan 29, 2016 |
Registers my presence, will tender my own submissions. |
| Science/Technology › Re: Are We Alone In The Universe? by johnydon22(m): 6:39pm On Jan 29, 2016 |
ngreviewtech:Gravity is not a thing so cannot be quantified with light |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Religious Forgiveness Or Escape Route? by johnydon22(op): 6:18pm On Jan 29, 2016 |
bqlekan:From what you have shown us here you do not make your own choice, your religion does that for you. our self will is not just a blessing, it also makes us prone to errors.. so yes, I can make a mistake, I can eat pork, gamble, smoke etc.If i gamble or smoke it will be because i choose to do them not a mistake but an act of my own volition.. You see the difference between us? I do things because i want to, you do them out of obligation .. Religion is there as a guide and also as a fear factor for us to be upright.I cannot wrap my head around the fact that there are humans who wouldn't find the need to be ethical unless coerced with fear into it. You have shown to be roped into your religious ideas in determining your moral outlook, worse of all you require to be coerced by fear... Surely you have shown to lack independent principle and reason as regards morality. If there were no religions, I probably might decide to be a hired killer (at least it pays well), or be an armed robber, or eat snakes, pork, etc. I won't have this fear of the afterlife in me.. so it helps me to be more upright...ISIS and BOKO HARAM both have religion and still they kill and maim and cause untold mayhem on the planet... You see, religion is not a determinant of morality. And you need to be threatened into conformity with the threat of torture and promise of a reward ? this of course shows you never really have been good but is using the act of "goodness" as a means to achieve "selfish" goals of evading punishment or gaining a reward not because you really wanted to be good. You have only shown you lack independency in your own reason to formulate your own principles and live by them but need to be leashed by religious ideas of another human for guidance. that is a sorry way to live.. And no, I'm not dodgingYou are.. the question remains. "So if religion did not tell you that killing is wrong, you couldn't have figured it out on your own? YES or NO 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Religious Forgiveness Or Escape Route? by johnydon22(op): 6:06pm On Jan 29, 2016 |
Nubian113:Someone gets the point i was trying to drive into bqlekan. You do not need religion to be moral or have a healthy ethical attitude in a society.. If you cannot determine what is right from wrong then you lack empathy not religion. If people cannot determine what they find to be ok in relation to others around them but needs to be coerced into submission by religious ideas mostly with the threat of torture and the promise of reward then we are in a sorry state.. 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Religious Forgiveness Or Escape Route? by johnydon22(op): 5:52pm On Jan 29, 2016*. Modified: 6:08pm On Jan 29, 2016 |
bqlekan:I do not do any of these like gamble or smoke and am not religious... Moreover i don't see why your religion sees nothing wrong in a 59 year old man marrying a 9 year old but is telling you not to eat pork, that is a misplaced moral idea. So you cannot determine and make your own choice of life based on what you find to be good for you but relies on the idea of another to do that for you? Thats more like having no mind of your own.. You see, religion is not a determinant of ethics unless for one who lacks independency in principle and reason.. I decide my own life and live my own life and not off people's idea this makes my life my own. I ask again "Without religion telling you not to do the things you listed above or kill, you would be doing them?" You dodging you know 2 Likes 2 Shares |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Religious Forgiveness Or Escape Route? by johnydon22(op): 5:37pm On Jan 29, 2016 |
bqlekan:Lmao.. And yes, it is a social norm to be upright, religion only thought us how to be more upright. And you don't believe in any...But you don't need religion to teach you to be ethical unless of course you lack independent moral basis which is a sorry state for sure. in fact i can point out to you many of these religious ethics that are not even near moral. So now let me show you that you don't need religion to be ethical.. "So if your religion didn't say Don't kill, you cannot figure out killing was wrong on your own?" 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Religious Forgiveness Or Escape Route? by johnydon22(op): 5:10pm On Jan 29, 2016 |
bqlekan:So i take it if your doctrine does not tell you not to cheat you couldn't have deducted it is a societal vice to cheat on your own? If you cheat your crime is cheating and that action remains one towards the person you cheated. If following your logic you offend God by cheating the orphan doesn't it appeal to logic that by making amends you should also have appeased God.. Or is God some egocentric entity that demands you beg when your action is not towards him neither can it be.. 1 Like 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Best Defination For Christianity! by johnydon22(m): 4:11pm On Jan 29, 2016 |
hockeyoilers:I think you are wrong by having the impression that i am defending Christianity. Your hypocrisy is epic because you are aloof to the same crimes roped in the history of Islam but here you are criticizing Christianity for the same charges. That betrays the dishonesty in Belief.. It blinds you to the inconsistencies in your own beliefs and gives you a glaring perception of similar inconsistencies in that of others when yours is not any better.. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Religious Forgiveness Or Escape Route? by johnydon22(op): 4:08pm On Jan 29, 2016*. Modified: 4:44pm On Jan 29, 2016 |
bqlekan:This remains the point, you owe no one an apology but the person who your action is directly directed to. We do not need forgiveness from God(s) over our relationship with one another but rather we need forgiveness from ourselves and all others around us who are victims of our ill action. Our loyalty should more be to our own kind than to vague concepts 2 Likes 2 Shares |
| Science/Technology › Re: Proof Of The Motion Of The Earth In The Vacuum.(as In, Space) by johnydon22(m): 3:59pm On Jan 29, 2016 |
Teempakguy:Evidently |
you already gave the spirituality you own out.. your version now isn't spirituality., its something else which I know nothing of yet..1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 ... 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 (of 489 pages)