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Christianity Etc › Re: Nigeria’s Growing Atheist Community by johnydon22(m): 5:22pm On Dec 08, 2021

wirinet:
That's true. The universe is a very disorganized, chaotic and wasteful place. I still fail to understand the purpose. Imagine billions and billions of desolate planets with only one or a few with life. And even the few with life always at the risk of annihilation from cosmic debris. The earth has been lucky in that even thought it is always under constant threat, no collision has at yet wiped out all of life.

The universe is not nearly as disorganized as you are passing it out to be, not even remotely.

There is a pattern, there is an order, that is why humans can study the universe and can predict its future. You cannot predict or study randomness, the universe on the other hand is far from being disorganized. It is actually a very ordered place.

Your statement that only a few planets contain life is a very bold one for someone who is a member of a specie that cannot even leave their solar system yet.

And about the earth under constant threat but not yet destroyed, even that is not an accident. The solar system is pretty much stabilized as opposed to its otherwise chaotic past, much like an iron cast cools and stabilizes. Presently, most meteor that make it into the system are pulled in by the gravitational influence of Gas giants like Jupiter and Saturn keeping the interior planets relatively free of meteors, not to talk of life ending collisions.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Where Is Hardmirror? Is He Alive? by johnydon22(m): 1:54pm On Jul 03, 2021

Dtruthspeaker:
How does stating an Observational Fact mean wishing ill on people?

It is even rather that I have Observe them as Image123 himself has do Observed that they keep putting themselves in one trouble or the other, even in very funny ways .

And it Only happens to a certain type of people as the Bible said.

So you accuse me wrongly.

And Truly there are so many things that Jesus Christ would not do, but I am going to fail in there.

He is greatly greatly better than I and i can live with that.

What observations have you made about atheists that informs your claim?

What observations have you made about me that informs your claim?

Point out these relevant examples. It will be nice to hear.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Where Is Hardmirror? Is He Alive? by johnydon22(m): 9:48am On Jul 03, 2021

Image123:
God is good, all the time.

Amen!!!

Christianity Etc › Re: Where Is Hardmirror? Is He Alive? by johnydon22(m): 9:47am On Jul 03, 2021

HappyPagan:
This tall man...

How you dey bro?

Christianity Etc › Re: Where Is Hardmirror? Is He Alive? by johnydon22(m): 10:21pm On Jul 02, 2021

Image123:
Hey, my good friend. How are you and are you in Abuja? You've been missing, like Reed i was hoping you were not in some trouble like prison?

An upstanding citizen like me could hardly end up in prison.

Christianity Etc › Re: Where Is Hardmirror? Is He Alive? by johnydon22(m): 10:21pm On Jul 02, 2021

Image123:
Good to hear from you, you're not looking too bad.

Good to hear from you too. How have you been?

Christianity Etc › Re: About God by johnydon22(m): 10:20pm On Jul 02, 2021

DannyWalker:
Honestly don't even know where to start, is it my survival of ruptured appendix and that left me with hours of pain yet didn't die or is it my life that had no direction until a simple vision changed that?

Connect the dots for me how you got the conclusion "There is God" from surviving ruptured appendix. I don't know, but that seems like quite a stretch.

Christianity Etc › Re: Where Is Hardmirror? Is He Alive? by johnydon22(m): 7:59pm On Jul 02, 2021

virginboy1:
Good to hear from you.
I was thinking you deactivated or got banned

I hail you man

Good man!!! I'd hardly do anything that can get me banned

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Christianity Etc › Re: About God by johnydon22(m): 7:58pm On Jul 02, 2021

DannyWalker:
You are quite good at avoiding yes or no with diplomatic answers...

And risk oversimplifying my position? No. Thanks. Answers I give sufficiently represent my position.

The existence of God kinda surrounds us but maybe you should relax a little on those tight intelligence and analysis you give out... The human mind has always had one major difficulty and that is figuring God out or explaining that complex entity.

You are human and you are intelligent [I assume] so guide me on this path to seeing God. It should not be that difficult, in your own words "The existence of God kinda surrounds us"

The inability for atheists or science to understand the complexity of the God figure and the sophistication of things made is the reason for the conclusive answers of God not existing and I completely understand you because even I cannot completely explain or figure out that greater presence called God.

Perhaps you are right, our inability to understand the complexity of the God figure and sophistication of things made is the reason for our position that God does not exist. Or maybe, an even more likely possibility here is, your inability to understand the complexity and sophistications of things in existence is precisely the reason you think God exists.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Where Is Hardmirror? Is He Alive? by johnydon22(m): 12:09pm On Jul 02, 2021

LordReed:
It's so galling to see someone so assiduously wish people who have done him no harm so much ill. Abi johny you steal im girlfriend? LMAO!

I don't know oo grin

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Christianity Etc › Re: About God by johnydon22(m): 12:09pm On Jul 02, 2021

DannyWalker:
come oh Johnny, I really doubt that... I have known you on nairaland for a while now, you will definitely have a defense or fault over anything that mentions God in it...

Would you prefer I just shut up and believe it? wink

You know you don't want that grin

But I want to know, is it that you don't believe in God or you just believe there is nothing beyond the physical, no supernatural or metaphysical reality?

I believe atheism stops at "No God"

Christianity Etc › Re: About God by johnydon22(m): 9:06am On Jul 02, 2021

DannyWalker:
You atheists are funny though...

Wait Do you just take the reality of evil happening around you conclude that God doesn't exist or you have actually made efforts to reach out and found out nothing exists out there beyond physical...

I am open to be shown? Would you want to take up the good work and show me?

Christianity Etc › Re: About God by johnydon22(m): 9:05am On Jul 02, 2021

DannyWalker:
In other words you are accepting that the Bible is more likely to be true right?

#sigh

Christianity Etc › Re: About God by johnydon22(m): 1:24am On Jul 02, 2021

DannyWalker:
You are wrong....

Interpretations closer to a text is more likely to be ACCEPTED than ones that completely ignores the text

It is more likely to be accepted because it is more likely to be true than a long shot.

Text: Obi is a boy

First interpretation: Obi is a male human in his teenage or adolescent or childhood stage.

Your interpretation: There is no Obi at all.

Of course people would accept the first interpretation as it is closer to the text is seeks to break down and aludes to its meaning. Yours ignores the text completely hence more likely to get it wrong.

Christianity Etc › Re: About God by johnydon22(m): 1:21am On Jul 02, 2021

DannyWalker:
Coming from an atheist you sound like one who knows God...

I would not be as arrogant enough as to claim that, it is the Christian prerogative anyway; claiming to know that which by definition cannot even be shown to be.

So basically what atheist do is listen to Christians then turn their words against them right?

No. We listen to Christians then let them understand the implications of their words. If you think letting you understand the implications of your statement 'turns your words against you' then perhaps you should think about these words more carefully before saying them.

Christianity Etc › Re: About God by johnydon22(m): 1:17am On Jul 02, 2021

DannyWalker:
The mind of every Christian has been hammered into one direction The Bible, and that includes you an atheist as well, there is more to learn beyond the Bible, up there I mentioned that not everything I will say can be gotten from the Bible because the Bible is a basic directional guide and not there to solve all the world mysteries...

Lol. Again, interpretations closer to a text is more likely to be correct than ones that completely ignores the text.

Christianity Etc › Re: About God by johnydon22(m): 1:14am On Jul 02, 2021

DannyWalker:
You say you are an atheist how then did you come to this definition about God

By listening to Christians. Christians define the Christian God. We just spell out the implications of these definitions.

Atheists did not define God as omnipotent, omniscient, omnibenovalent, and omnitemporal, Christians did.

Atheists did not claim God created the cosmos - Christians did.

And the implication of creating the cosmos is that God transcends the cosmos.

This isn't difficult to figure out.

Christianity Etc › Re: About God by johnydon22(m): 1:11am On Jul 02, 2021

DannyWalker:
There are things in the Bible you don't take literally because they were written in literal expressions but are not literal

I'm pretty sure one is more likely to be correct by reading those texts literally than the skewed missionary journey you are going with your posts that completely lacks scriptural backing even metaphorically.

Christianity Etc › Re: About God by johnydon22(m): 1:03am On Jul 02, 2021

DannyWalker:
I have known you to be an atheist but It's funny how atheists know God so well yet don't believe in his existence...

I am an atheist still and this comment is of no relevance to mine.

Christianity Etc › Re: About God by johnydon22(m): 1:02am On Jul 02, 2021

DannyWalker:
The most confusing part to me now is life after death. I personally believe that there is heaven and hell right from my childhood days until one guy (Jehovah witness) told me that there is nothing like hell, he went on that even heaven is for a specific number of choose people and not for everyone, above all, he said that when one dies, your own is finished and you are not gonna go anywhere. Simply put, your body and spirit will die.

What I would like to tell you about this is that, the church from the old days painted a fire picture of hell in your head so you can pay tithes and offering, hell is a large place with various sections and hell is not actually covered in flames...

On a coming day, some people from hell will have their works tested by fire and if their good works are not consumed (based on how genuine) they will enter the kingdom of God... But the church taught you that if a man does the work of God all his life and in the last minute he sins he will burn in hell forever, that's a bloody lie...

And you were taught that if a man who has spent all his life killing people suddenly repents when he is about to die he will make heaven, well that is a lie too, you know why? Because repentance is the most difficult point for a man to reach and repentance comes to any man by only divine Grace and grace is similar to luck but divine grace is extra ordinary

I am guessing you know more about hell than Jesus and Apostle John the beloved (alleged writer of revelation) since both aludes to an enternal nature of hell.

Jesus says in Matthew 25:41: ". . . Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, . . ."

Rev. 14:11: "The smoke of their torment ascends up for ever and ever: and they have no rest, day or night."

I am guessing you are trying a more subtle picture of Christianity to help someone who is apparently dangling the edge of his faith. Why not be very honest with him

Christianity Etc › Re: About God by johnydon22(m): 12:55am On Jul 02, 2021

DannyWalker:
It is believe that God created the world and knows what happened before, what is happening presently and what will happen later till the end of time. This brings me question on why he allowed Satan to decieve man, why was he also angry since He knew beforehand of what will happen? Then the consequent punishment, was it really justified?

The question is, does God see it all? Yes and No...

God also has free will... The use of powers is not involuntary, he chooses to, they way we were taught is that God sees everything but they didn't tell you he chooses to see everything...

The ability to see the future is like a mirror for example, or like picking up your phone and choosing to browse the internet.

When God created Adam he gave him freewill and that means he is allowed to be free and live free. You were taught that God knew that man would fail, well God didn't know that man would fail because he made man free and put him in charge of the world.

After God put man in charge on earth, he was constantly going away and coming back according to the Bible.

God had refused to access or peep into man's future days because he wanted to accept what ever outcome his creature brought but he never knew that he would flop too early.

In all logical sense if God had looked into man's future before the fall he would have prevented it but God respected the freewill he had given man. If God was basically ruling man by looking into the future that would be taking away freewill and since he didn't want to take man's freedom he let man live free...

God keeping a tree in that garden and telling man not to touch it was because he didn't want to offer that to man just yet but in time he would have given the tree of knowledge to man... All these plans came to a halt when man suddenly flopped...

God is not playing any game with man like the way people see it... Man is living free and is still living free to this day, every evil happening to us today has nothing to do with God but our actions and reactions

Technically, this is wrong. God's omniscience is not a magical power to be used as a magical tool every now and then.

By definition, God is transcends the cosmos, this would mean God is beyond space and time. To be beyond space and time would mean from his ventage point, everything, past, present and future are happening at the same time, hence, the ability to know all potentiality: omniscience.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Where Is Hardmirror? Is He Alive? by johnydon22(m): 12:45am On Jul 02, 2021

Dtruthspeaker:
Always! It is even Guaranteed! Either they put themselves in Trouble or Trouble comes to marry them

oga repent. Stop wishing ill on people. Jesus would not do that.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Where Is Hardmirror? Is He Alive? by johnydon22(m): 12:44am On Jul 02, 2021

Image123:
That copy and paste? May be in prison, who knows. Sinners will always sin and get themselves in one trouble or the other.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Where Is Hardmirror? Is He Alive? by johnydon22(m): 12:42am On Jul 02, 2021

Image123:
Lol. He probably saw devil and had to stop posting out of shame. Like someone said, hardship dey bite many of them.

Haha baba you still dey? Long time brother

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Christianity Etc › Re: Where Is Hardmirror? Is He Alive? by johnydon22(m): 12:33am On Jul 02, 2021

virginboy1:
Please where has Johnnydon2 gone to, I missed that moniker mehnnnnm...

The dude was so good that he liberated so may religious fanatic here. Much Respect to him.

I think maybe CAPSLOCKED was banned.

LordReed:
Johnydon22 is busy irl, not much time for NL.

To be fair there's no great topic dropping here these days.

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Politics › Re: Nigeria Will Wish They Never Let Goodluck Jonathan Go! by johnydon22(op): 8:50pm On Apr 27, 2021

hahn:
No mind me o jare. I was high on stupidity.

Last last these politicians are all the same.

They actually are not all the same. The indices of Governance is quantifiable, you can tell who is better.

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Politics › Re: Nigeria Will Wish They Never Let Goodluck Jonathan Go! by johnydon22(op): 2:14pm On Apr 27, 2021

djdoxxx:
Johnnydon22 really fall my hand....buh I really understand his plight...there were other vibrant youthful and patriotic contenders in other parties that had very nice and clear manifestos but nobody reasoned them....Anyways, Buhari is still far better than Jonathan...let's just start planning ahead for the next election.

So how far, do you still think I fall your hand?
Do you still think Buhari is better?

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Politics › Re: Nigeria Will Wish They Never Let Goodluck Jonathan Go! by johnydon22(op): 2:12pm On Apr 27, 2021

Prinnce1:
what a question, are you sure he is still alive. Nepotism has finished Nigeria

I know he is still alive unless he died this afternoon

Politics › Re: Nigeria Will Wish They Never Let Goodluck Jonathan Go! by johnydon22(op): 1:08pm On Apr 27, 2021

hahn:
Who go give johnydon22 weed smoke?

So how far? Do you still think I smoked weed when I wrote this?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Another Reason To Doubt Religion by johnydon22(m): 7:38am On Apr 16, 2021

Againstlies:
atheist is a religion that believes there is no God, go and check the meaning of religion and come back.

No. Atheism is not a religion just like theism is not a religion.

Religion can be based on theistic or atheistic beliefs but neither in itself is a religion.

Theism is the position that there are Gods
Atheism is the belief in the contrary.

A religion on the other hand is an organization with uniformed beliefs, rituals, doctrines etc.

Neither theism or atheism is an organization.

Christianity, Buddhism, Islam on the other hand are.

Imagine theism and atheism as crates of beer. Imagine religion as bottles of beer.

A crate can be used to carry beer but a crate is not a beer.

you think I don't know you are the op with another username.

anything that has to do with your believe about God is a religion. if you like believe or not, who cares!!!!

No. It is not

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Politics › Re: Nigerian Democracy And The Pessimism Of Socrates by johnydon22(op): 7:21am On Apr 16, 2021

martins2021:
please reply me when you see this quote

Seen

Christianity Etc › Re: Are Atheist Mostly From Christian Homes. by johnydon22(m): 8:43am On Jan 24, 2021

No. Atheist aren't from Christian homes..

Yes. They are atheists from Muslim homes.

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