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Religion / Re: What Made You Question The Infallibility Of The Bible? by johnydon22(m): 2:20am On Jun 05
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Is there a foolish question or no? Even the Bible says to avoid FOOLISH questions. So you cannot really ask foolish questions and expect divine answers or christian answers. You're free to keep asking foolish questions within your ranks and echo chambers, it is within your rights.

Well, that's convenient
Religion / Re: What Made You Question The Infallibility Of The Bible? by johnydon22(m): 2:17am On Jun 04
Thugnificent:
I said what I said and mean it too with my last drop of blood .
Of course you did
Religion / Re: What Made You Question The Infallibility Of The Bible? by johnydon22(m): 2:16am On Jun 04
Kobojunkie:
Was the following not a claim made by your person? undecided undecided undecided
And what part of that told you anything about me?

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Religion / Re: What Made You Question The Infallibility Of The Bible? by johnydon22(m): 9:32pm On Jun 03
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i've always asked questions and more times received answers, maybe because i'm not asking foolish questions but more of sincere questions. The Bible is inspired by God and written by men. Expecting men to be God is the chief source of your folly.
LOL. You have already tagged some questions foolish, for obvious reasons, which suggests that you are the last person anyone should to provide any form of clarity to people who ask these questions.

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Religion / Re: What Made You Question The Infallibility Of The Bible? by johnydon22(m): 9:31pm On Jun 03
Kobojunkie:
Where in any of the books contained in your bible is it written that this faith you speak of is meant to to be used in overlooking errors and contradictions contained within? Where is it written in Scripture that this faith you speak of is meant to be used in the way you suggest? undecided

You already making unfounded assumptions about me and beliefs presuming to know me without any information to inspire such confidence in your powers of deduction.
Religion / Re: What Made You Question The Infallibility Of The Bible? by johnydon22(m): 9:29pm On Jun 03
Thugnificent:
Absolutely not!

The word is spirit breathed
So, we could say that discrepancy or not, you would stick to your gun.
Religion / Re: What Made You Question The Infallibility Of The Bible? by johnydon22(m): 12:57am On Jun 03
Thugnificent:
Nothing really, the Bible is not a novel, neither is it a scientific textbook. Every wording is believed by Faith with the help of the holy Spirit. So if you keep on looking for discrepancies and error it will take an eternity because God the author never made it a common book. You could go read Harry Potter if u bored.

But seriously, the word incarnate (Yeshua) has Fulfilled all written and unwritten aspects of Scripture by his death and resurrection. You choose to believe or not is your own cup of tea.

But all men must give account of his actions or inactions in this present realities.

What if we point out some of these discrepancies right now would it change what you believe about the bible?
Religion / Re: What Made You Question The Infallibility Of The Bible? by johnydon22(m): 12:56am On Jun 03
AntiChristian:


What Christians?

A Unitarian Christian and Jehovah witness will support me that 1+1+1= 3, and that their God is one not three!

A Trinitarian will try to prove his own...

In the end i will end up more confused than before!

I heard you are a Muslim so on this thread I am going to completely ignore you since your input is irrelevant to my Inquiry
Religion / Re: What Made You Question The Infallibility Of The Bible? by johnydon22(m): 12:54am On Jun 03
LordReed:


I refused to question it back when I believed. I could see the discrepancies but I waved it away so it wouldn't disturb my faith. Now that I no longer have to do that it looks so glaring I wonder why I was determined to ignore those discrepancies.

Faith is an important thing in the lives of those who have it hence it makes sense they'd seek to protect it at all cost
Religion / Re: What Made You Question The Infallibility Of The Bible? by johnydon22(m): 10:16pm On May 31
AntiChristian:
The belief that Jesus is God turned man!

The belief that Holy Spirit is God!

The Belief that the father is God!

1 + 1+ 1= (1 x 1 X 1) = 1 (Trinity)

The three are one, coequal, coeternal, omnipotent, omniscient, etc but only the son can die!

Sin against the Holy Spirt may not be forgiven!

I found out in the Hausa Bible! Jesus turned water to Fruit-Juice not wine! As Hausa man no dey drink wine!
What if Christians provide logical explanations to this, would it change your mind?
Religion / What Made You Question The Infallibility Of The Bible? by johnydon22(m): 12:22pm On May 31
I have heard many atheists, agnostics and irreligious people mention that they started down the rabbit hole of skepticism after reading the Bible and giving it a bit of a thought.

It may not be anything serious, something as tiny as a numerical inconsistency in biblical canon can shatter someone’s preconceived notion of biblical perfection which prompts them to start asking more profound and daring questions about everything derived from biblical canon.

What made you start asking questions?
Religion / Re: Dear Atheist, What If You Died And Appeared Before The Devil in hell? by johnydon22(m): 4:47pm On Feb 04
Jackanda1:

I don't believe in Santa clause, budha or mohammed and i don't see the need to spend time bashing them online. For someone to put in so much effort resisting the work of fiction it's either anger,depression or madness.

I'm only interested in answering questions from geniune and honest atheist.

You are still insisting on an irrelevant point while actively evading confronting the point of a post you yourself originally started.

Dishonesty seem to be a trademark of folks here when confronted with difficulties in justifying their own arguments. Lol

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Religion / Re: Dear Atheist, What If You Died And Appeared Before The Devil in hell? by johnydon22(m): 4:44pm On Feb 04
Dtruthspeaker:


Consemned for doing what, is the question.

And the question is, have you not done things you could and should be condemned for?

If you have, then you are condemned already.whether you believe in Christ or not.

And knowing tbis, is what leads to the question what does belief in Christ mean since we are already guilty and condemnable? But this question is of course for only those who understand the meaning of being condemned and definitely do not want to remain so.

For since the beginning to the end of the bible God had always clearly stated what makes a person liable to be condemned and not one of these is because of a mere refusal to believe in Him.

Read the Bible quote again perhaps slowly.

18Whoever believes in him will not be condemned, but whoever does not believe has already been condemned, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God."

Again, you are either aren't reading the Bible or being deliberately dishonest.

The biblical deity right from the old testament has viewed unbelief and worship of other gods as sins punishable.
Religion / Re: Einstein On Freewill; Atheists & Religionists Respond * by johnydon22(m): 4:40pm On Feb 04
PoliteActivist:


*Politeness*
You don't understand, he effectively said it was all handed to him and refused to take personal credit for any of it.
That belief is irrelevant to everyone else.


How many lifetimes would it take you to figure out just one of the things he figured out - example, that gravity is just a curvature in space-time, and not a force in the earth pulling you towards it?? And if you did figure it out wouldn't you be so proud of yourself??
Hence, it makes him and expert and authority in his field not an authority in what is real.
Religion / Re: Einstein On Freewill; Atheists & Religionists Respond * by johnydon22(m): 1:02pm On Feb 04
PoliteActivist:


Einstein's expertise was beyond scientific because at the time he came up with these things they were based entirely on his thinking - but later proved correct in real life. So if based on same his thinking he concluded that free will is an illusion, you better pay attention. Based on his antecedents, Einstein wouldn't believe golden dragons existed unless there is high probability they actually do exist!

Lol. It is called theoretical physics - it is based on mathematics.

Einsteins expertise on relativity again does not make him an authority on reality it makes him an authority on relativity.

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Religion / Re: Dear Atheist, What If You Died And Appeared Before The Devil in hell? by johnydon22(m): 1:00pm On Feb 04
Jackanda1:
Before i answer you, i see from your posts that you spend alot of time talking against GOD and the bible.

This is shocking for someone who doesn't believe in the existence of God.

Why do you spend so much time and effort fighting the work of fiction?

Could it be that you know the Bible is true but you're hidding it from us?

Do you have beef with GOD?

Please tell us the truth.
You are remarkably dishonest person. No one checked your posts before answering the question you asked because it is irrelevant to that point.

You bringing up a completely irrelevant matter and dwelling on that instead of addressing the problem he raised which plays into the original point of the post alludes to your dishonesty.

You should work on that.

Answer his question.
Religion / Re: Einstein On Freewill; Atheists & Religionists Respond * by johnydon22(m): 12:40pm On Feb 04
PoliteActivist:


Nope, this is his particular area of knowledge and expertise: insight into the true nature of our reality and existence. Read again what's posted in the OP: "considering that Einstein is arguably the most insightful human that has ever lived (in terms of insight into the true nature of our reality.)"
Someone who all by himself, in his study, through what he called "thought experiments" was able to determine that space and time are one fabric (space-time), that mass is condensed energy (E=mC²), that gravity is just a curvature in space-time, that nothing can travel faster than light, that a person on earth would age 50 times faster than a person traveling near speed of light, black holes, teleportation, time travel, etc! Then he refused to take credit for any of it - apparently because the answers were given to him!

Einsteins expertise was scientific and last I checked there is a distinction between that and spiritualism.

Einstein's beliefs are not science and hence bears no scientific relevance to anyone... Recognizing his insights on science bears no weight on his insights on metaphysical matters.

Einstein can believe golden dragons exist, his remarkable work on theory of relativity does not make that any less idiotic neither does it make him an authority in determining what is real.
Religion / Re: Dear Atheist, What If You Died And Appeared Before The Devil in hell? by johnydon22(m): 12:24pm On Feb 04
Dtruthspeaker:


No where did God Say He punishes people for their unbelief. What He did Say is that no evil person will go unpunished.

JOHN 3:17 "For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn* the world, but that the world might be saved through him. 18Whoever believes in him will not be condemned, but whoever does not believe has already been condemned, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God."

Is it that you don't know your own Bible or you were just being dishonest?

So, how do you want to play this?

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Religion / Re: Why Does Your God Send People To Hell? by johnydon22(m): 11:11am On Feb 04
Threads like this often raise important questions yet when you open it, the OP is just a hot mess of incoherent babble. No meaningful sequence, the question isn't effectively addressed and Bible verses thrown in at writers whims.

All in all it ends up making unjustified conclusions that often times is not justified by the contents of the post.

You guys needs to do better because something like this does not inspire engagement or discussion.
Religion / Re: Please Who Is At Fault Here? by johnydon22(m): 7:44am On Feb 04
Education for Muslim northerners in Nigeria is a matter of national emergency.
Religion / Re: Dear Atheist, What If You Died And Appeared Before The Devil in hell? by johnydon22(m): 9:47pm On Feb 03
Jackanda1:
Dear atheist who don't believe in the concept of spirits, devil and God.

But assuming you grow old and die one day, then suddenly appear before satan himself. Realizing that you have been decieved into thinking the supernatural doesn't exist.

What would you say to satan? What would be your reaction?
Absolutely nothing.


Knowing fully well that Jesus and Bible was real the whole time.
What would you do?
I'd have no regret either way because a God that is so mundane and petty that he punishes people for unbelief (you would think that something powerful enough to create the cosmos is above such petty vulnerabilities and insecurities), a God that petty and small as to punish unbelief isn't far remove from what you'd imagine Satan to be.

So my question to you is, why is your conviction a dividend of your fear of the unknown? Don't you see how that betrays its shallow insincerity?
Religion / Re: Einstein On Freewill; Atheists & Religionists Respond * by johnydon22(m): 9:41pm On Feb 03
PoliteActivist:
*Politeness*
Atheists & Religionists,
Considering that Einstein is arguably the most insightful human that has ever lived (in terms of insight into the true nature of our reality), how do you reconcile these his views with your beliefs? Especially juxtaposed with traits of an "old soul" below.

So basically, your question is making the assumption that since Einstein was insightful in one area of knowledge, his insight in other areas should carry the same weight enough for Atheists to try and reconcile their beliefs with his?

Do you see the problem with that thought?

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Politics / Re: More Pictures From Labour Party Presidential Rally In Osun State by johnydon22(m): 12:36pm On Jan 08, 2023
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APC will get the votes while i help to ignore the insults. Elections is not a game of insults but numbers.

Elections are not games, it's people's lives, future, wellbeing.

There's no personal victories or loss in elections, if the wrong man wins, everyone, irrespective of who they support, loses. Everyone.

If the right man wins, everyone wins.

After all this years, you still fail to improve on your thought processes and how you approach relevant issues.

This is not a game, it's our lives for God's sake. Jesus! ��‍♂️

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Politics / Re: Obi To Assemble Nigerians Across Parties To Develop Nigeria – Manifesto by johnydon22(m): 8:35am On Dec 05, 2022
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Smh….

2023 will humble you!

2015 didn't just humble those who did not support Buhari, it humbled even Buhari supporters.

Everyone in this country is equally partaking in the increased hardship and insecurity no matter who they voted.

We all lost after Buhari won.

So, if we vote wrong in 2023, it will humble all of us including you.

Elections are not personal Victories. If the wrong person wins, the whole country loses (all of us irrespective of who you voted for will lose).

But if the right person wins, all of us wins.

It's up to you search your soul and know this isn't about humbling anyone and more about doing what is best for everyone.
Religion / Re: My Strange Experience With An Ifa Priest by johnydon22(m): 9:24am On Nov 22, 2022
Tobdek:
I'm an atheist. Something strange happened to me today and I can't stop thinking about it.

Someone mistakenly sent me airtime this morning. He called me to resend it because he wanted to send it to his father. A while later, he called me to thank me and gave the phone to his father who thanked me profusely and prayed for me. His father told me that he was an ifa priest from Ile ife.He told me to go and buy pure water and call him back in exactly three minutes. I decided not to but I was curious to hear what he wanted to say.

I called him and to my surprise, this man told me my surname! It felt so strange. He told me to ask for three things I want. He asked me if I had gotten the pure water, I told him no and he said I should go and buy it and call him back. I don't know if he's a scammer or a real priest. This has never happened to me before.

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Pansophist

Looks like scam bro

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Business / Re: CBN Redesigns 200, 500 & 1000 Naira Notes by johnydon22(m): 2:42pm On Oct 26, 2022
Why?

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Religion / Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by johnydon22(m): 9:49pm On Oct 22, 2022
aisha1314:
Recently converted from Christianity to being an atheist though I haven't told anyone yet. When I resume university hopefully in a matter of weeks now that ASUU strike will soon be over, I may leave a note somewhere for my mom to find about my conversion.
I feel religion is just too controlling and restrictive for me. Besides I can't even remember the last time I prayed or read the Bible so I just thought, what's the point of calling myself a Christian when I have clearly lost all my faith in God?


Don't be hasty to tell anyone about that. Other people knowing that information doesn't help you in anyway.
Religion / Salvation, Or Just Blackmail? by johnydon22(m): 4:00pm On May 03, 2022
"Accept my love or I hurt you" is an idea we all will recoil at its thought.

If a man said to a lady, "accept my love, love me and be my girlfriend and you will be cared for, happy, everything you want will be given on to you. But if you choose not to love me, accept me or be mine, I am going to torture you and make your life miserable"

Anyone who hears the above would immediately make the man out to be a blackmailer, a horrible person, deserving of no love.

Would you say she is saved if she accepts his love? No, you won't because the person offering love is also same person offering torture should she choose the contrary.

But by Christian dogma, you could call it salvation for her to accept his love. Such abusive, blackmailing and horrifying relationship dynamics is worth celebrating by Christian sensibility because it represents Christian relationship with the Christian God.'

Christians are obsessed with the idea of salvation, of being saved from damnation. Accepting Jesus as your Lord and savior is the sure path to this salvation.

However, the Christian God also is believed by christians to be the creator of everything, the set the rules, he damns those he finds unworthy of "salvation".

Think about it. When a Christian is saying he or she is saved, they are saying they are saved by God from what God would do to them if they didn't accept God as their lord and savior

Christians are not saved from any external force beyond God's control, they are saved from the wrath of God.

How is it salvation if the same person offering salvation is responsible for damnation?

It is not, it cannot be.

Just as the abusive man above isn't offering the lady in the analogy salvation, the Christian God isn't offering anyone salvation. Both are simply blackmailing their victims with torture.

Take your time, think about it. Who exactly is God saving you from?

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Religion / Re: God Cannot Seem To Do Anything Except Irrelevant Miracles by johnydon22(m): 10:43pm On Apr 25, 2022
virginboy1:

Longest time Oga Johnny
Big man, how you dey?

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Religion / Re: God Cannot Seem To Do Anything Except Irrelevant Miracles by johnydon22(m): 4:50pm On Apr 16, 2022
MaxInDHouse:

NO!
The true God doesn't work in mystery but according to plan. So all you need to do is find out His plans in other to grasp what He is doing! smiley
How do you find out his plan, let me guess, read the bible?
Religion / Re: God Cannot Seem To Do Anything Except Irrelevant Miracles by johnydon22(m): 4:48pm On Apr 16, 2022
oaroloye:
SHALOM!

Dude it has been at least 5 years, you still do this?

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Religion / Re: God Cannot Seem To Do Anything Except Irrelevant Miracles by johnydon22(m): 8:15pm On Apr 15, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
He is working but it's only the humbly and those with listening ears can perceive what God is doing right before their noses! smiley
Well, that is convenient. Another way to say the famous now obsolete "works in mysterious ways"

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