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ezebrain:
This question has been adressed and the answers clearly given in a discussion between justcool and ephisi, at the 4th page of the thread entitled "The Grail Message" by stag.

Thank you. I shall look for the thread and read what they said. Thank you for responding.

I know this is a sensitive question but I'm going to ask it for the sake of those of us out here who need understanding in these matters so as to enable us make judgements and decisions that we won't regret.

Which of the versions of the Message is the accurate one? Or if I can put it another way, which is the more authentic one among them?

This refers to the dissension between the adherents of the 1931 Grand edition and the adherents of the 3-volume edition, also known as the Last Hand.

I know well enough that posters on this thread will try as much as possible to refrain from posting their thoughts on such a sensitive issue giving the reason that they do not want to lead seekers astray even though they may possess knowledge that might clarify a lot, and to these I tell that your refusal to share with us seekers your thoughts and opinions on this matter aids in leading us astray for if you know anything that can help another, a responsibility is imposed on you to share this knowledge with the individuals who desire it so as to aid them on their journey. And I desire to hear the thoughts and opinions of those of you who are more seasoned than I am in this issue.

It is strange that this dissension exists, you can't read a copy of either versions without adherents from both sides making you feel like you are making a wrong choice. And before I am given the answer to judge with my intuitive perception, let me tell anyone who has the intention to provide me with such response that I have and I know my choice.

Knowing my choice does not hinder anyone from providing words that may still aid myself and others for I do NOT know it all. It is also well known that certain publications by the great Master will not be made available to regular people like me unless we show our allegiance to the version upheld by the group which possess these publications with them, I previously tried to acquire a certain publication and was told that I had to fellowship with them to gain access to it, I was disheartened because I do not fellowship anywhere, I read the Message in my room and try exceedingly to live accordingly. It really saddens me that the topic is avoided like a plague, all so that no one will be labelled a troublemaker, a topic which will really help to guide those who have decided to become really and truly awake.

I do not ask this to start a quarrel or a virulent and vicious exchange of words between the adherents of both versions but I ask this simply to know. As such, if I will be labelled a troublemaker for asking this, I accept the tag gratefully as long as you all post your thoughts and opinions on it.

I do not see any reason why such an important issue should be veiled with smoke or discussed in the shadows so I appeal and urge you all to provide your thoughts and opinions here, on this thread to assist us all. I appeal to you all to let light shine through and enable us to see properly. Also, for individuals that may try to reach me through the email attached to this account, it isn't necessary for the email isn't functioning anymore.

I hope that this post strikes a nerve in your hearts and leads you all to post your thoughts on this issue. Thank you all in advance.

Finally, it would also be appreciated if someone who is moved to do so, to answer the post above me for I really want to know about music and it's effects.

Thank you

justcool:
@JonesK

Your question is very important, and I perceive it's born out of genuine seeking; hence I will share my perception. Also, I noticed that you have asked questions, earlier on this forum, which hasn't been answered. I'm sorry, I just noticed them today. Perhaps you have found the clarity you sought on those issue; otherwise let me know so that I can share my perceptions on them whenever opportunity presents itself.



There are two German words for the English word "you". The first is "Sie" and the second is "Du." The German language of the Grail message is very refined and hence has a lot of words, each different concept gives rise to a different word. Hence "Sie" and "Du" differs. Apart from being more formal, "Sie" simply means "you"; it simply used to address a different person, the person you are talking to. "Du" also means "you," in that it refers to another person other than the person speaking, but it also refers to another person of equality.

"Du" really implies a person who is homogenous to you! In English this refinement does not exist, "you" is simply another person, the person you are speaking to or addressing irrespective of whether she/he is homogenous to you or not. Hence the German words "Sie" most closely translates to the English word "you." As opposed to "du" which implies equality or homogeneity.

You can already guess from the above distinction why it is wrong to address everybody with "Du." As you already know, everything, including the words we speak, take on form in the beyond. When you refer to somebody as "Du" you are implying that that person is the same with you! Homogenous to you and at the same level of spiritual maturity with you. Hence with this address forms arise in the beyond closely binding the addresser to the addressee. This then presents a big problem when they pass on because they are not homogenous and will, under normal circumstances, float or sink to different regions of the beyond, regions corresponding strictly to their ethereal weight or their kind. But now due to this unnatural binding, these two individuals cannot be separated after passing on. And remember, that which is lighter can descend lower, while that which is heavier can never rise higher than its weight even by the distance of a hair's breadth. Hence, assuming the addresser is lighter or spiritually higher/nobler (more righteous) than the addressee, after passing on, the lighter soul (the addresser) will be drown into the lower/darker plane where the darker soul (the addressee) belongs.

This is why "Du" should be used only among individuals of the same homogeneity. This law does not apply to those in the beyond because there only souls of the same homogeny find each other, or group together in a plane corresponding to their weight, hence they can safely address each other as "Du." That commandment refers to the German word, "Du"; not necessarily the English word, "You."

Hence, the Grail message(actually "Resonances to the Grail Message I" ) exhorts us to limit the addressing of a person as "Du" strictly among each other; i.e. among those homogenous to us.

Words are more powerful than people think. Even when they are spoken carelessly without intuitive volitions. The sounds carry energy which take on form in the beyond, and these forms correspond to the nature (actual meaning of the word) and not the intention of the speaker. The intention coming either from the spirit or intellect will take on form in a different plane. That which arises from the spirit takes on living forms in the ethereal realm and can send their influences or receive power from higher spiritual planes depending on how pure they are. That which arises from the brain (intellect) will manifest as phantoms in the planes of fine gross matter. While the spoken word will take on form in the planes of medium gross matter. These three can receive link from each other if they are harmonious, and greatly strengthen each other. Whatever the case may be, each of them is linked to the producer; whether they be forms of words, thoughts, or spiritual intention, they are all linked to the producer and will reciprocally influence her/him.

This clears the issue about people who think they can say anything as long as they don't intend it. They think that since their words lack real or spiritual intention, that it won’t have any effect. Parents with this false belief often call their kids fools, animals, devils, stupid, ekwensu, ajor nwa(bad child) etc. And when the kids grow up to become irresponsible adults, they (the parents) will blame it on their neighbor’s juju. The words you speak take on form the planes of medium gross matter, a form corresponding or having the energy corresponding to the meaning of the word, whether you mean it or not!

If you look carefully and intuitively, you will see that the modern man heaps sins upon sins on himself in this regards. I know a married couple who call each "dear me." The wife calls the husband "Me or dear Me" and the husband does the same. People praise this poisonous outgrowth of modern life, but it is wrong and opposed to the laws of creation. One should never refer to another human being as "me." Often we go to Nigerian homes where the husband joins the children in calling his wife, "mommy" and in some cases the wife also calls her husband "Daddy." It is my perception that all these things are wrong, since they do not correspond to the Truth of their relationship, hence only unhealthy forms and binding can result from them.

But it is not wrong for couples who genuinely love each other to address one another as, "My darling, my love, sweetheart, etc." The bottom line is to be truthful and simple in your speaking; we should call anything only what it actually is. We should not call our wives our mother, to avoid wrong knotting of threads that will make our lives difficult and hinder our spiritual accent. Even when traditions or religions teach us to do so, we must not. For the laws of creation and the threads of faith that arise from our actions do not care about our religious laws or practices. We should not refer to another human being as “My Lord.” We have only two Lords: Jesus and Imanuel.

To avoid sinning in this regards, Jesus has already shown us the way, "But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.”

Thanks and remain blessed.

Thank you justcool for the clarification. You even took it further and thus extended my knowledge and for this, I am grateful. Concerning the other issues, I have gained clarity on my own but if there's anything else that seems obscured to me, I will be sure to ask on this thread knowing that I shall find what I seek. Thank you once again.

Concerning the use of 'you', can anyone provide clarity please.

dynamo007:
know

Do you?

JonesK:
Does anyone know where I can download the Splinter Cell Conviction game for Android?

PLEASE DOES ANYONE KNOW?!

Does anyone know where I can download the Splinter Cell Conviction game for Android?

Thanks man but I've been to that site. The reason I opened a topic here is because I'm a noob when it comes to these things and that site isn't for noobs.

Can you, by any chance, run me through a simplified version? If it isn't too much trouble for you.

Thanks.

Calebosko:
MENSTRUATION TESTIMONY During church
service
this
16 year old pastor's daughter stood up and
said,
"Praise the Lord!". Everybody happily
responded,
"Halleluyah". She continued, "since my tender
age of
13, I've really been experiencing monthly
period
with
so much pain. But now, after a series of
Bible
Studies
and prayers with brother Prince, our Sunday
School
teacher in his house, my monthly periods
have
ceased
for more than 3 months now; no more
painful
mensturation. You can see I am even getting
fatter
and prettier. Praise the Lord!" The pastor
fainted.
Don't laugh plz............ .........

Don't worry, I didn't laugh.

I want to put cyanogenmod on my HTC m7 but I do not know if I should put the official version 11 or the unoffcial version 12.
Apart from this, I do not even know the exact process of loading cyanogenmod on the phone.

Any assistance on any of these issues would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Please can someone tell me how to fully awaken and discern the intuitive perception inherent in every inividual. Analogies would be greatly appreciated. If possible, the explanation should be so simplified that even a child can understand. Thank you so much in advance!

elijahdre:
I believe there are cheaper phones though might not be snapdraggon but performing similar functions.
Check out Jiayu s3 3g ram.Its just 51k

Thank you. But how much is the Oneplus one? And Meizu mx4.

Please how much would it cost to get the oneplus one? And is it a good deal? I mean, is there a better phone for the same cost? Thanks in anticipation.

Most of the soundtracks done by Hans Zimmer especially The Electro Suite done for the Amazing spiderman 2 and featured Pharell Williams.

Make it Rain by Ed sheeran for Sons Of Anarchy

The Devil Within by Digital Daggers and Who are you by Mikky Ekko, both for The Blacklist and a lot more.

And oh, Earned it by the Weeknd for 50 shades of Grey, even though it hasn't been released yet

Please does anyone have the link to download the english subbed version of the last naruto movie?

Here's mine
CPU:AMD A6-5350M APU with Radeon HD Graphics 2.90GHz(with turbo boost up to 3.5GHz
RAM:8GB
GPU:AMD Radeon HD 8450G
HDD:571GB assisted with external hard disks, of course.

Not really a gaming laptop but she tries her best. At least, I've played almost every reasonable game with her excluding Crysis 3 and Watchdogs which is funny because even battlefield 4 played without lagging, with settings on low.

KingMEXX:
Have finally fixed it, It wasn't the game. It was from windows 8.1 OS.. Just a minor synaptic connections issue and then restarted my PC and the problem stopped...Call of duty running flawlessly now on max settings and shadow details on. Am so enjoying this PC now.
Currently looking for how to get FIFA 15 and GTA V discs..May have to download it though...Thanks for your concerns

What did you do please? I'm having this same problem with my computer when playing black ops 2 and batman arkham origins. I have to let go of the keyboard to look around and it's rather frustrating

Please this is my third question and I would really appreciate some help in form of a response or a reply....from any adherent.

The 53rd chapter in the 2nd volume which is titled: Gross Matter, Ethereal Matter, Radiation, Space And Time.
I would really appreciate if someone could expantiate on the radiation part. Thank you.

mnwankwo:
Hi demomap. Good day to you too. Welcome to the thread. Stay blessed.

Please I have an inquiry. I read this:

For the purpose of obtaining grace the immutable Laws of God lie in Creation, and it is only through strict adherence to them that grace can be received!

And I want to know how to adhere or submit to these immutable laws of creation. Any explanation you give me will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Hi there adherents. I am relattively new to the Grail message, I got introduced to it after reading some of the topics a fellow nairalander whom I respect present some posers concerning it for you, Justcool. So I started reading it and up till now, I have to say that it is absolutely wonderful. I particularly like it because everything I have read till now agrees with what I felt to be true, not what I thought I knew, and this is a great feeling. It gives that you that assurance that there is actually a Great Creator if due to the world around you, you were initially having doubts. It is a great book.

Now to my question, I am in the second volume, in the lecture tagged 'Man and his freewill', and I don't have anything within me to answer this question even though I can feel an answer. Please do not feel that my question is banal or particularly nitty-gritty, which it may seem. I am just curious about it, the way I'm curious about everything I do not understand

I read 'Prayer' and understood to a relative extent that particular lecture. But I want to know more. How do I pray? When? How frequently? Where? Because I want to talk to my Creator and I would like to go about this in the right way.

Thank you in advance. Your responses will be invaluable.

Peace.

Wow, this is interesting. Let's play then. I'm in a quandary. Tell me what you see please

Does anyone know whether watchdogs has an issue with AMD processors or video cards? Because the game is laggy on my A10 with 8gb ram on the lowest possible settings

pickabeau1: The anime fight between kaka n obi to..sweet

They redeemed the weak ish in d manga

I swear. The taijutsu was epic. Btw, why do I feel that naruto shippuden will end as a tragedy? I just hope it doesn't

benodic: as above so below .

This is just the perfect answer. @OP google this and see what it gives you

I think that when Naruto gave Kakashi his eye back, it increased the amount of chakra Kakashi had giving him the capability to handle two sharingans. I think that's what he meant by Rikudou's power except, of course, the sage of six paths came to meet him which would compound the amount of explanations Kishi has to give.
Also, I think that it's not impossible for Obito to give Kakashi his eyes considering the fact that Madara woke brought himself back from the dead using Izanagi.
All that's left now is for Sakura to enter sage mode and we'll know that we're done

Angel196: What is the colour of the sky? How does it has colour? If its just a space, its impossible to have colour. How come space ships flys but never reachs the sky but is in the sky? How is it possible that scientist fly out of earth but has never reach the stars not to talk of the sky but are in space? How is it possible for a person to keep accending to sky in space but never reach the sky? How many scientists has seen n visited the end of the sky? Lol. What makes up the sky n what gives it its colour? So is it only objects n materials that has colour? Do tell please

To you, what is the sky? Is it the one you see when you look up or is it beyond that? Reply me and I'll attempt your questions

Angel196: Are u trying to question the ability of God who created u? If u doubt He can make the sky fall indeed u don't believe He is Al-mighty. If u can believe He created man from sand how then could u disbelieve He has the power to make the sky fall? If u call this scientific error or say its impossible, do tell me the scientific possibility n explanation of how a sand can turn to man or how a virgin could give birth.

This is a ridiculous answer in my opinion. But let me just add that in my experience when any holy book talks about the sky falling, it is referring to meteors falling. I'm just saying.
Concerning virgin births, I do not know

This is good news. I just hope that Nigerians don't stigmatize them.

date1816: THE MOON'S ORBIT

And We have decreed set phases for the Moon, until it ends up looking like an old date branch. It is not for the Sun to overtake the Moon nor for the night to outstrip the day; each one is swimming in a sphere. (Qur'an, 36:39-40)

The Moon does not follow a regular orbit like the satellites of other planets. As it orbits the Earth, it sometimes moves behind it and sometimes in front. As it also moves with the Earth around the Sun, it actually follows a constant pattern resembling the letter "S" in space. This route, traced by the Moon in space, is described in the Qur'an as resembling an old date branch and does indeed resemble the twisted form of the date tree branch. Indeed, the word "urjoon" employed in the Qur'an refers to a thin and twisted date branch and is used to describe that part left after the fruit has been picked. The way that this branch is described as "old" is also most appropriate since old date branches are thinner and more twisted.

There is no doubt that it was impossible for anyone to have any knowledge about the orbit of the Moon 1,400 years ago. The way that this pattern, identified by modern technology and accumulated knowledge, was revealed in the Book is yet another scientific miracle of the Qur'an.

Muslims people have a huge treasure in their hands, the Holy Quran. This book not only describes the way a Muslim person should lead their life, but it also is full of complex explanations of the world that we live in. Constant reading of the Quran will enable a person to better understand this world and to become a closer servant to Allah (SWT).

Not to burst your bubble but Empedocles(494-434BC) had alluded the orbit of the moon when he said 'The moon circles around the earth-A borrowed light'. Just saying

alexleo: You don't believe in the truth rather you are afraid of the truth.

What truth? Or rather, what do you think the truth is?[/quote]Your belief or non belief does not change what is on ground. Same goes for all of us.[/quote]What is on ground? Or rather, what exactly do you believe is on ground?
Thanks.

This is good news, very good news. I just hope that a sample of her blood was collected and that our microbiologists are trying to identify the antibody(ies) that sent the virus packing. This will ensure that the others will probably have hope of surviving. That is the only true way that the shame you guys are all yapping on about can be metted out to the Americans