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Tanzania launches rockets to space for other nations too!

nemesis8u:
A classic case of the fox and the sour grapes ?

Ur country designs and develops train engines , wagons , coaches , locomotives etc And export the same to other countries including developed countries ?

Ur country designs develops runs maintains rail infrastructure that moves the equivalent of entire population of Australia each day ?

Empty vessels make much noise

Kenya's pharmaceutical industry is worth a half a billion US dollars and dominates almost 50% of pharmaceutical sells in the COMESA market. Tell me something about Tanzania's manufacturing?

Kazikazi:
But what is Kenya manufacture which Tz doesn't? Just educate me

Pardon.Come up again

Kazikazi:
But what is Kenya manufacture which Tz doesn't? Just educate me

And can Tanzania lecture India on all this ? Tanzania isn't even among Africa's largest economies. Who even takes Tanzania seriously? We know Africa's regional powerhouses,you are not even there yet. Stick to fighting with the likes of Mozambique.

Kazikazi:
Not totally useless.but it is not suitable for them currently. Imagine a country which runs about 50% of her trains on diesel,instead of modernisizing from diesel into super high speed trains,they go into space.
Should we mention hunger and malnutrition?
Road networks?
Air transportation?

You can hardly make money there. You need a stronger consumer base to make meaningful profits something that Tanzania doesn't have!

tylann:
Kenya's is among the biggest investors in Tanzania

So India's space programmes are useless?

Kazikazi:
It can strengthen other sectors once you have eradicated hunger and malnutrition as the USA,Japan Germans etc have done so.But for a starving man trying to go to space it is pure madness and lack of statergies. It insane to jump steps.Imagine a guy who lacks proper modernised railway network tries to land in mars!

Priorities priorities priorities

Oh My God! This is my last time engaging you ! Peace out!

Acadavah:
Space science and mining?Tourism?Education sector? That's so irrelevant.

Ranking are mostly not honourable! But if facts are to go by, that's just it.

vaxx:
I just said it not honourable to compare both of them in many area since advantage of the historical skills didnt favour south Africa. therefore it make more sense to compare countries that have same or similar industrial or institutional strength. imagine south Africa. shares border with Germany or usa. do you really think you can compare India with her? check out India border countries and see how they perform in development with India? There is just little diffrence with the exception of China. that is far more developed than india.

IT, manufacturing,mining, transport, tourism, education and a lot more!

Acadavah:
Like which sectors?

And space science doesn't strengthen other sectors? Wow!

Kazikazi:
You are mixing stuffs! I was talking about space science. You bring air Tz,what for?
But anyway, Air Tz bought new planes.There is production records on manufacturers datas.And we brought those to strengthen other sectors like tourism,transportation, agriculture, and trade

It was India against South Africa. This is where you fail in arguments vaxx

You are making it India against the world

vaxx:
And the funniest thing India is not even a leading technological country......

Can't blame them much with a billion plus mouths to feed!

vaxx:
Agreed . but not on poverty eradication nor education ..

Some Tanzanians have been complaining that the money used to buy refurbished boeings disguised as new toys should help fund the many broken sectors!

Kazikazi:
Yes on the ground.It is wiser to think about space science when you don't have issues on the ground

How many did they lately burry?

Kazikazi:
They are still burying people due to starvation.While we don't. So we are ahead in food security.

I just said of the present facts no matter what history would suggest. The facts are as they are no matter how many considerations you'd bring, I get your point though but India floors SA in tech capability !

vaxx:
It is not trully honourable to compare the two. how old is south Africa? What historical advantage does it have ? India had been an ancient super power for long, it just lost that glory some three hundered years ago. Japan will be the perfect example, she got it right despite not having historical advantage comparable to India.

The Shirima fella has shares of about 42% and Kenya Airways has shares of about 41% . Negligible difference!

Acadavah:
Precision air is owned by Michael Shirima and Jaguar Land rover is a British company owned by TATA motors since 2008 and that doesn't make it Indian company.

I said of South Africa and not Japan

vaxx:
India tech development was as a result of balance institutional strength. And it is still suck when when compare to Japan which does not have the same benefit. ..... south Korea it catching up fast now.

What areas do you beat India on?

Kazikazi:
Because someone overpraised India.He actually said about India being able to overpower Africa militarily.

Tanzania is ahead of India in some aspects, while other areas we lag behind them

Eradication of poverty on the ground*

Kazikazi:
Which tech? Going to the moon before eradication of poverty in the ground?! What about simple things like transportation?

What of tech ?

tylann:
In terms of quality of life sa floors india

Tell me your latest profits ?

Kazikazi:
Air Tz will make more money on those routes because we don't spent money paying other people for renting fees of aircrafts. We bought all of our planes cash.Our operational costs are way below your KQ. Do u see how smart we are?

For the first time in a decade,that doesn't mean everyday of the week like some countries do!

Acadavah:
After China, you are now try to get loan from WB. Is not Kenya which was bragging about large budget in East Africa?

SA is more developed than India? Are they planning a Mars landing?

Kazikazi:
What are you talking? Can India capture Sub Saharan Africa? In my understanding, South Africa alone is able to withstand Indian invasion. Even in technology, SA is ahead of India.SA is more developed than India.What have India done which SA couldn't do?

Kenya's debt to GDP ratio hasn't even reached the redline 60% yet. What matters a lot is not how big your GDP is, it is how much you can collect as revenues. Nigeria has the worst revenue to GDP ratio that is way less the Sub-Saharan average of around 18-19 percent. South Africa with a slightly less GDP than Nigeria manages to collect 30% revenue as a percentage to its GDP. We use hard cash to settle debt, a bigger GDP wouldn't necessarily help you much. Revenues matter a lot. With a 400 billion plus GDP, what are Nigeria's revenues in tandem to that GDP? The answer is actually sad!

samorobo:
Of N25 trillion is $73bn then yes but that just 19% for 200million out of over $400b while your is 56bn at 62% for 50 million people out of $85bn economy. ..obviously there is almost nothing left in your gdp..you are living large on debt..if your debt increases so does your economy

A Tanzanian should be the last person to speak! Don't quote me,your country is just insignificant!

Acadavah:
Trained to be beaten by skinny hungry Somalis.

A Tanzanian should be the last person to speak!

Acadavah:
Trained to be beaten by skinny hungry Somalis.

2019 IMF GDP forecast

Tanzania has been overtaken by Ghana

Even in PPP,we now bit Tanzania



The next target is to reach Morocco, it would be a tall order but we can overtake them!



1. Nigeria - $444.9 billion
2. South Africa - $371.3 billion
3. Egypt - $299.6 billion
4. Algeria - $183.7 billion
5. Morocco - $121.4 billion
6. Kenya - $99.2 billion
7. Angola - $92.2 billion

68816419:
Are u stupid or just being daft, what have i shown you ?

We are a 99-100 billion dollar GDP! A 10 trillion shilling economy to be exact!

68816419:
are u stupid or just being daft, what have i shown you ?

Energy,Kenya

90% of our energy is from renewable sources!

It's tricky! I'm not so sure!

tylann:
Algeria all the way

An Information Communication Technology, ICT, expert from Kenya, Mr. David Njorga, on Friday, maintained before the Presidential Election Petition Tribunal sitting in Abuja, that the Independent National Electoral Commission, INEC, transmitted results of the February 23 presidential election, to a central server. INEC Chairman, Mahmood Yakubu and Atiku Abubakar Njorga, who was subpoenaed to appear as a witness in the petition the Peoples Democratic Party, PDP, and its candidate, Atiku Abubakar, lodged to challenge the outcome of the presidential election, said he conducted analysis and findings on result of the election as was electronically transmitted to the server. He said results from the server was directly copied to a website he gave as www.factsdontlieng.com, which he said was created by an official of INEC that acted as a Whistle-blower. The Kenyan who testified as the PW-58, tendered a copy of the subpoena that was issued for him to appear before the tribunal. While INEC’s lawyer, Yunus Usman, SAN, and that of the All Progressives Congress, APC, Prince Lateef Fagbemi, SAN, said they were not opposed to admissibility of the subpoena, however, President Muhammadu Buhari’s lawyer, Wole Olanipekun, SAN, challenged it. Olanipekun said his client would give his reasons in his final written address. The document was admitted and marked as exhibit P-91 by the Justice Mohammed Garba-led five-member panel tribunal. Buhari vs Atiku: INEC officer took $10, 000 to change results, witness reveals(Opens in a new browser tab) Under Cross-Examination, Njorga, who was described as an “Expert Witness”, admitted that he was not in Nigeria when the presidential election took place. He said confirmation from a global ICT tool, WHOIS.com, revealed that the website that contained data from the sever, began to function on March 12 when the domain name was registered. Asked if the essence of the website was to ensure that people had access to election results as they were being transmitted, the witness said: “If you look at information explicitly put on the website by the author who is an INEC official, those were data from the server. “The INEC official is anonymous. It is a whistle-blower”. Asked if the whistle-blower could be a robot, he said: “My lords robots do not create websites”, saying it was international best practice to shield identity of the INEC official. The witness acknowledged that the website from which he conducted his analysis does not belong to INEC. “It does not belong to INEC but the data it contained were from INEC’s servers. I have never worked for the INEC before”, he added. He said he used scientific methods to trace the source of the data. Asked if he was aware that the IP address has been used by many corporate organizations all over the world, he said it was true. Asked why he did not attach his certificates to his statement on oath, the witness said: “My lords I am a professional. I have the certificates with me, if you like I can show it”. Continuing, the witness told the tribunal that INEC managed four websites, saying it was not correct that none of them contained the data he analysed. He said exhibit A5 contained extract from all the websites. Asked if he was aware that the Presidential Result Sheet that had all the results that were announced by INEC, was opened on March 24, the witness said he was not sure. Asked if he was aware that one Mr. Dinita created the INEC App, the witness said he does not know. Under further cross-examination, the witness said if granted the access, he could decrypt every data in INEC’s server. When he was handed one of the exhibits he claimed contained some printouts from the server, the witness said he was not authorised to decrypt them. “Technically, I can, but I am not authorised to reveal this data”, saying only the INEC Chairman, Prof. Mahmood Yakubu, could grant him access to decrypt data in the server. “I will decrypt the data and it will confirm that the information on the website where from the direct source”. Insisting that he linked the website to the server, the witness said: “I am well experienced in information/Data Sciences and I use scientific methods which any expert can confirm”. He said it was possible for someone to use the same scientific methods he used to gain access to the server, to tamper with its contents. He said contents of the server could be changed through the same method. The witness however refused to disclose the name of who engaged and paid him to undertake the assignment. “My lords I was not paid for this job, only my logistics were paid for”. Asked if it was not important to state in his expert report before the tribunal, who engaged him and the scope of his assignment, the witness said: “That is true, but as an expert who belongs to various bodies of knowledge, the method I used was what is approved”.

Read more at: https://www.vanguardngr.com/2019/07/presidential-tribunal-kenyan-ict-expert-testifies-says-inec-has-server/

It's 41% owned by Kenya Airways you tool!

Kazikazi:
Look at this fool! Do u know Precision air is a Tanzanian company? Do u know all their aircrafts are registered by Tz authorities?