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Christianity EtcRe: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013(op):
NumberOne2:
Hmmm, if why you question existence of God was because of Cain's wife then I have to say you wasted your years as a Pastor. What an excuse. grin I also wonder what kind of people you Pastored or didn't you have senior Pastors to ask about Cain's wife?

Cain & Abel:
https://www.nairaland.com/2348537/answer-sunday-school-question-people
[b]When I read an explanation like yours, it only goes to show how the god you think you serve is mocked. I will come back to that assertion.

Let me refute your explanation:

You said Cain married his sister. Laughable! You know what, I think I lived with this deceit for a major part of my life because I was brainwashed to a point where I saw nothing bad in rationalizing as long as it made me defend the Bible. So I understand where you're coming from. I have been there.

The reason your claim is so bad is because even the Bible you defend does not accept your claim. According to the Bible, Cain had even had s.ex with his wife before Seth was born. After Abel was born, it took another 800 years before Seth was born. (Again, there is no proof that humans who lived hundreds of years existed in history so all those 800. 900, 600 years are fables). Hey. no lies here. Here is what the Bible has to say:

Genesis 4:16-26 (NIV)

16 So Cain went out from the Lord’s presence and lived in the land of Nod, east of Eden.

***17 CAIN MADE LOVE TO HIS WIFE, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Enoch. Cain was then building a city, and he named it after his son Enoch.

18 To Enoch was born Irad, and Irad was the father of Mehujael, and Mehujael was the father of Methushael, and Methushael was the father of Lamech.

19 Lamech married two women, one named Adah and the other Zillah.

20 Adah gave birth to Jabal; he was the father of those who live in tents and raise livestock.

21 His brother’s name was Jubal; he was the father of all who play stringed instruments and pipes.

22 Zillah also had a son, Tubal-Cain, who forged all kinds of tools out of bronze and iron. Tubal-Cain’s sister was Naamah.

23 Lamech said to his wives, “Adah and Zillah, listen to me; wives of Lamech, hear my words. I have killed a man for wounding me, a young man for injuring me.

24 If Cain is avenged seven times, then Lamech seventy-seven times.”

***25 ADAM MADE LOVE TO HIS WIFE AGAIN, and she gave birth to a son and named him Seth, saying, “God has granted me another child in place of Abel, since Cain killed him.”

26 Seth also had a son, and he named him Enosh. At that time people began to call on the name of the Lord.

See, the more you defend these myths, the more ridiculous you look. There is no way you will answer this question of Cain's wife without making assumptions you cannot prove.

I was in that game for a long while and according to my research I can give you six more excuses as to who Cain married. From Adam Clarke's to Strong's to Matthew Henry's explanation, but you know what they prove? They prove that you serve a god who cannot make a simple text explanatory on its own accord. Seven different explanations that are contradictory and every one of them claim inspiration. How possible!

Are you aware that is it on this basis (of confused inspiration) that we have over 33,000 denominations in Christianity and you will not see two denominations that agree wholly on everything in the Bible? They all lay claim to the interpretation and revelation from Yahweh.

Buddy, dig deeper. Have an open mind. Don't just accept anything on a surface value. Prood. Search. Ask questions.

Let me give you another assignment: Are you aware that the Noah's flood did not happen on a global scale like we have in the Bible? There is absolutely nothing like that that submerged the entire world. Do you know? It's MYTH!
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From this I see you probably had a VERY boring life as a Pastor. Perhaps the typical "SU" type or "Ladies don't wear trouser" or "fast and pray 24/7 type". Who says Christians don't like football? I love cars, horse riding, cinemas, Arsenal FC and travelling. SO? These are not sins. I laugh, you think only Atheists or Freethinkers do those... think again.

PS: Being a Christian is NOT BY FORCE. You don't even need to explain yourself. Just say I dont believe in God. However, don't bring up flimsy excuses as to why you doubt God. Its pathetic.
LOL...you have no idea! Can you say the Christ Embassy brand of Christianity are boring? But tell you what, we were actually more refined than BLW. Throughout my stay on Campus, no single BLW Pastor was able to stand up to us in Bible interpretation and exegesis. We were the WORD MEN who basked in the redemptive work of Christ in the New Creature. (I chuckle now when I think of those innocent senseless braggadocio we made those days. LOL)

Not a single student saw us on Campus and called us boring. We had nice times in School. Watched movies, played football and other games on Saturdays.

Hey, try another line! wink
Christianity EtcRe: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013(op):
[b]THE 'WE' DOGMA

"…There are some things that WE must admit WE don’t share — OUR culture, OUR societies don’t accept. It is very difficult for us to be able to impose on PEOPLE that which they themselves do not accept,"Uhuru Kenyatta (President of Kenya) said (on July 25, 2015).

The 'WE' dogma. The 'PEOPLE' dogma. Who exactly is 'WE?'

In ancient cultures like the Bible's and Taliban's, a census of people were taken as 'men' only. Women were not counted because they were not part of the 'WE.' In some places, they were not even allowed to speak because they were not in the 'WE.'

So today when I see women, of all people, or Blacks who were once not regarded as 'PEOPLE' rejoicing at the speech by Kenyatta (majorly because of what their Scriptures tell them), I smh, because somehow 'people' forget that the whole essence of being gay is being a minority. The fact that majority of Africans do not accept gay people does not erase the existence. They are in the MINORITY and and the way you treat your Minority determines how you really value human lives. Is it therefore a shock how we value life in Africa today?

I'd like to reiterate Obama's stance on this oppressive culture:

"When you start treating people differently not because of any harm they are doing to anybody, but because they are different, that's the path whereby freedoms begin to erode..And when a government gets in a habit of people treating people differently, those habits can spread," Obama said.[/b]
SportsRe: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by joseph1013(op): 12:07pm On Jul 27, 2015
Siasia is someone who I know does not shy away from responsibilities. He's been there before and I know he can raise up to the occasion. I see us qualifying ahead of Congo by the slimmest of margins.

Great job, bro. I'm always following.
Christianity EtcRe: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013(op): 7:21am On Jul 27, 2015
[b]WHY DID SCIENCE HAVE TO GO AND MESS THINGS UP FOR RELIGION?!

Had it not been for science, the earth would have still been flat: We would have had to put an iron fence around the edges to prevent us from falling off.

Had it not been for science, the sun would still be orbiting the earth: The sun would still be going down into the sea at nights to cool off so it could get a fresh start the next morning.

Had it not been for science, the stars would still be little holes in the floor of heaven, so god could spy on us here on earth.

Had it not been for science, the moon would still have its own light; and would not have to sell its light to the sun.

Had it not been for science, unicorns, talking snakes, and talking donkeys would be our favorite pets: Dogs and cats would have to quickly learn how to speak if they wanted to remain our favorite pets.

Had it not been for science, we would have the softest angel feathers in our pillows instead of goose feathers.

Had it not been for science, fish would still have the right to rent out their stomach as luxury living quarters for human-beings to live in for more than 3 days. There would be no homelessness on earth.

Had it not been for science, people would still be using their heart to think. And those people who are today living with artificial hearts would be considered "brainless."

Had it not been for science, thunder would still mean that god is just moving his furniture around in heaven.

Had it not been for science, people who suffer from epileptic seizures would still be posses by ghost, and could only be healed by drinking holy water.

Had it not been for science, I would be posting this status update by messenger pigeons, instead by the internet.

I could go on forever, but I am positive that you get the idea by now. If it was not for science, religion would make the world a much better place to live...

SCIENCE--SHAME ON YOU![/b]
Christianity EtcRe: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013(op): 10:01am On Jul 25, 2015
[b]SOMETIMES I WISH THERE REALLY WAS A GOD!{an invisible being in the sky}
by Philmore Carter

I have to admit that even though I know that wishes will never and can never change fantasy into reality, sometime when I am laying on bed at night I do WISH there was really a GOD.

Sometime I wish there was a God, one that doesn’t have a chosen people, he would choose all races has his own.

I wish that there was a God that would prevent children from being raped in his name by his holy-men; plus he would never sit back and allow a single child go to bed hungry.

Oh yes I wish that there was a God; One that would never ever approve in his holy-book the savage acts of slavery, rape, incest, genocide, human sacrifice, oppression, looting, or any other crimes against humanity or nature .

I wish there was a God that would make all the basic human rights and earthly resources equally guaranteed to all human- beings without regards to race, color, creed, or religious belief.

I truly wish there was a God, one that would help the African people overthrow and totally destroy all the devilish invaders, oppressors & resource thieves that are in every inch of Africa.

I wish there was a God that would spend less of his time perfecting the torture pit called hell and spend much more of his time improving the dreadful conditions here on earth.

I wish there was a God that would have rewarded the first two human beings for seeking knowledge instead of cursing them and all the rest of humanity for their pursuit of knowledge.

I wish there was a God, One that would have given Moses I- pad tablets instead of stone tables, one that would have given Joshua the internet instead of the sword, a God that gives mankind a “holy-facebook” instead of primitive “holy-book”, I wish for a God that would have drowned the world with knowledge and love instead of drowning it with water and hate.

I wish there was a God that instead of written his holy-book on paper he would have written it on our DNA, so that no one could forge it, plagiarize it, misinterpret it, or needs any holy- men to translate it for us.

I have to admit that I sometime wish there was a God, one that instead of sending his “only son” to die for the sins of the world he would allow him live so he could spread more love in the world.

As I said before, I know that wishes can’t change fantasy into reality;, but I think I could imagine a better God than the ones that the religious people have today.

Any God that claims to be All Loving, All Merciful, All Powerful, All Knowing, & Always Forgiving, should stop talking about it and prove it to all mankind.

For those of you who say that a God really does exist why can’t he just be something like the one that I wish for? Oh man, sometime I wish that wishes could make “my God” a reality; but until then I will have to rely on Real Science, Logical Reason, Solid Evidence, Pure Facts, Undisputed Proof, and the Plain Truth as my EVERLASTING GOD.
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Christianity EtcRe: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013(op): 7:32am On Jul 24, 2015
Brilliant. Simply brilliant. This is the best animation I have seen in months. Wow!
Please watch.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0A_iF1B3k0
Christianity EtcRe: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013(op): 7:27am On Jul 24, 2015
Brilliant. Simply brilliant. This is the best animation I have seen in months. Wow!
Please watch.

https://www.facebook.com/NooooooNameeeeee1/videos/1591487627776295/
Christianity EtcRe: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013(op): 7:17am On Jul 24, 2015
[b]On the genealogy of Jesus...

When I was a Christian I subscribed to the notion that the Bible had recorded genealogies for Jesus because He (Jesus) was 100% man in addition to being 100% God. In all that time, it never occurred to me to ask the question... How can Jesus be 100% man when he never an earthly biological father?

On the Biblical genealogies presented, most contemporary scholars agree that the genealogical records were used to align the lineage of Jesus with the royal lineage of David in accordance with the Old Testament prophecies.

They however goofed by presenting two contrasting and mutually exclusive genealogies in the Gospels according to Matthew and Luke. Some apologists have tried to harmonise these records by positing that one of these records shows the genealogy of Jesus through his mother, even though it is clear that there is no mention of Mary in any of the records presented.

Apart from the fact that the two genealogical details comprises different names, excerpts from the final parts (shown below) indicate a very fundamental flaw... It shows that Jesus had two different grandfathers. In Matthew, JC's grandpa was ‪#‎Jacob‬ while in Luke his grandad was ‪#‎Heli‬.

... So much for inspiration from the Holy Spirit..

Matthew 1:16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.
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Luke 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli...[/b]
Christianity EtcRe: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013(op): 7:26am On Jul 23, 2015
[b]This article is actually not related, or related depending on how you see it but I will be doing a great disservice if I dont share such a great article.

5 THINGS THAT SHOULD BE TAUGHT IN EVERY SCHOOL
by Mark Manson
(WARNING: ALOT OF CURSE WORDS AND F-WORD THEREIN)

Let’s be honest: our education system is f**ked.
I mean, almost all of the important history I learned between grades 5 and 12 I could probably find on Wikipedia and understand within a few weeks now. And pretty much any scientific knowledge you could ever want to learn is explained with pretty videos on YouTube. On top of that, you have the most unstable job market in almost 100 years, technology developing so rapidly that robots will be doing half the work in another decade, college degrees that some argue are now worthless, and new industries and technologies being invented practically every six months.

Yet we’re still pushing kids through the same curriculum their grandparents went through.

It’s cliche at this point to say that the most important things you learn in life you don’t learn in school. I know in my life, the most important things I’ve learned I had to figure out on my own as an adult.

But why couldn’t these things be taught in school? I mean, if I had to spend six months learning about Chaucer and Renaissance painters, why couldn’t I spend six months learning about how to save for retirement and what sexual consent was? Or why didn’t anybody tell me that by the time I became an adult, a large percentage of the job market would either be performed by robots or sent overseas?

Call me bitter. Or maybe just an entitled Millennial. But seriously, where were these classes? You know, the ones with the shit I actually needed to hear? 1

Obviously, when I rule the world — which should be any day now, waiting to hear back from some people — we won’t have these problems. I will craft a curriculum of the perfect life knowledge to impart upon the populace. And you will all thank me and give offerings of milk and honey and sexy virgins and maybe even slaughter a goat or two in my name (sorry vegans).

But before I get carried away fantasizing, let’s get real. What are the classes we should have had to take in high school, but didn’t? Here are five off the top of my head.

1. PERSONAL FINANCE

Curriculum Would Include: Credit cards and interest rates and credit ratings and retirement accounts and why you should start saving like $100 per week when you’re 18 because by the time you’re 50 you’ll be like a quadruple-gajillionaire.

Seriously, compound interest runs the fucking planet. How did I not even hear about this until I was like 24?

Why It’s Important: Because the average American household has over $15,000 in credit card debt. 2 Because 36% of working Americans have NOTHING saved for retirement. 3 Because this video exists:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYhTFz_SGw0

Note: If you would choose the chocolate bar over the silver, and don’t understand why this is a horrible decision, meet me at this footnote. We need to talk. Now.4. If managing your own money was a school, the majority of the US population would be riding the shortbus. And failing. And dropping out entirely.

This financial illiteracy is actually a really big problem. Because, see, if you have a society full of people buying a bunch of crap they can’t afford, retiring with no savings, getting sick and not being able to afford health care — well, that screws all of us in a major way.

You know, like exactly what is happening right now.

2. RELATIONSHIPS

Curriculum Would Include: Communicating your feelings without blaming or judging each other; how to spot manipulative behavior and cut it off; personal boundaries and not being a pushover; honest discussions about sexuality and how it relates (or doesn’t relate) to love; “Bleep Yes” consent and how the experiences of men and women differ.

Basically everything most of us learn by going through excruciating breakup after excruciating breakup.

Why It’s Important: Because when you’re in bed dying of nutsack cancer, you’re not thinking about how Napoleon got over-zealous in Russia or how the Meiji Restoration totally changed the face of Asian geopolitics or how organic compounds are conspiring to make your brain rot.

You’re thinking about the ones you’ve loved in your life and the ones you’ve lost.

Many things make for a happy life, but few things have as much influence and impact as our relationships do.5 Learning how to not stumble through them like a drunken asshole and how to exercise some conscious control of how you express your emotions and intimacy is possibly the most life-changing skill set I’ve ever come across.

Because we’re not just talking about how to get wifey’d and have sexy time. We’re talking about capital-R Relationships: how to be a good friend, how to not treat your family like dog shit, how to deal with conflict at work, how to take responsibility for your own emotions and problems and neuroses without dragging the rest of the world down with you.

As humans, we are fundamentally social animals. We don’t exist in a vacuum. We can’t. Our social bonds make up the fabric of our life. The question is: are yours made of smooth silk or cheap polyester?

3. LOGIC AND REASONING

Curriculum Would Include: This question:

True or false: If all Biffs are Croons and all Croons are Darns, then all Darns are Biffs.
The answer, of course, is “false.”

Questions like this always felt annoying on standardized tests. But our ability to think through them actually has major repercussions on our beliefs and how we lead our lives. For instance, following the same logical progression as above, but with real-world examples:

“Cindy creates conflict at the office. Cindy is a woman. Therefore women create conflict at the office.”

Or:

“Most criminals are poor. Most poor people receive welfare. Therefore most welfare goes to criminals.”

These things are false, yet you see them reported in the media as fact, debated by leaders as if they’re valid arguments, and become the foundation of many people’s biases and prejudices.

Just the other day, I saw possibly the stupidest article I’ve seen in months. It tried to argue that sexual objectification of women is wrong while sexual objectification of men is fine. Why? Because men aren’t raped as often as women are.

That’s like Swiss-cheese territory of logical holes and fallacies.8

Why It’s Important: The point is, we’re making these logical fallacies all the time. And often in subtle ways that go unnoticed by us. And often regarding important decisions and beliefs that have life-or-death consequences. They creep up in political campaigns (X is good at making money; governments need to make money; therefore X will be good at government), civil rights issues, moral and ethical decisions (Bob lies to me, therefore I should be able to lie to Bob), dealing with personal conflicts, and so on.

These logical fallacies then infiltrate our lives by causing us to make dumb decisions. Dumb decisions about our health, our relationships, our career, pretty much everything.

Spock says that any disagreement with this article is illogical.
Spock says that any disagreement with this article is illogical.
The problem is in school we’re rarely taught how to actually think or problem solve. Instead, we’re taught how to copy and memorize things — and then promptly forget them. This poorly suits us for sorting through the complexities of adult life. And especially because in the 21st century, life is getting really fucking complex. I feel like maybe the intellectual retreat we’re seeing recently into religious fundamentalism and other simple-minded cultures comes from this complete lack of preparation for a complicated postmodern world.

4. SELF-AWARENESS

Curriculum Would Include: I know what you’re saying right now. “How the Bleep do you teach self-awareness?” But seriously, it can be taught and practiced like anything else.

Self-awareness is the ability to think about how you think. It’s the ability to have feelings about your feelings. To have opinions about your opinions.

For example, I might think something like, “I hate every person named ‘Steve.’ People named Steve are bad people.”

This is a classic example of bigotry, a simple channeling of hatred through some superficial stereotype. And if you lack all self-awareness, you will take this prejudice at face value.

But if one is self-aware, they’ll catch this thought and question it. “Why do I hate people named Steve? Is it maybe because my ex-boyfriend is named Steve? Is it because my father’s named Steve? Am I perhaps channeling my anger for the Steves in my life onto all of the Steves of the world? I feel embarrassed at how hateful I am. I should visit a shrink.”

This is me thinking about my thoughts. It’s me having feelings about my feelings. It’s me having opinions on my opinions. It’s self-awareness. And the majority of people go through most of their life having very little of it.

But it can be learned, like anything else, through practice. Basically anything that requires you to think about what you’re thinking, to have feelings about your feelings, is developing your ability to be self-aware. That could be meditation, talk therapy, journaling, or just having a person really close to you point out your biases and prejudices with some consistency.

Why It’s Important: A high degree of self-awareness has been found in research to benefit, well, just about everything. People who develop meta-cognition skills are better planners, more disciplined, more focused, more attuned to their emotions, better decision-makers, and better able to foresee potential problems ahead.

I also make the point in this article that self-awareness is possibly the most important trait in making a relationship work.

In everything we do in life, there’s only one tool that stays with us from beginning to end: our mind. It is the great filter. Everything we do and everything that happens to us is filtered through our own mind and thinking. Therefore, we need to invest the time and energy to understand our mind as well as we possibly can, because it affects everything. Maybe you are quick to get angry and judgmental. Maybe you’re laid back and overly detached. Maybe you suffer from anxiety in a number of ways that are subtly holding you back. Maybe you are impulsive and an expert at bullshitting yourself.

Whatever it is, we must all figure out our own tendencies and then learn how to monitor them and then adapt to them.

5. SKEPTICISM

Curriculum Would Include: Why everything we believe is most likely wrong to some degree; why our memories are completely unreliable; how fields as seemingly sturdy as mathematics and physics are full of unresolvable uncertainty; how we’re all terrible judges of both what made us happy/unhappy in the past and what will make us happy/unhappy in the future; how the most important events in history are always those that are least predictable; how it’s certainty and rigidness of belief that leads to evil and violence, not the opposite; that much of what passes for scientific knowledge today is based on research that has repeatedly failed to be replicated or verified; and so on.

Why It’s Important: Pretty much anything good in life comes from uncertainty or a state of not knowing. Uncertainty is what drives you to become curious, to learn, to test new ideas, to communicate your intentions to others. It’s what keeps you humble. It helps you accept whatever comes along. It allows you to see others without unfair judgments and biases.

Pretty much anything bad in life comes from certainty: complacency, arrogance, bigotry and unfair prejudice. People don’t get together and form religious cults and then drink cyanide-laced Kool-Aid because they’re uncertain about something. They do it because they’re certain. Governments don’t starve and murder millions of their own citizens because of uncertainty. They do it because of certainty. People don’t fall into deep depression, obsessively stalk their ex, or shoot up a school because they’re uncertain about themselves. They do it because they’re certain.

They’re certain in a belief that, like almost every other belief, is probably wrong.

Skepticism cultivates the ability to open yourself to alternatives, to withhold judgment, to question and challenge yourself and make yourself a better person.

You don’t actually know if Susy at work hates you or not. You don’t actually know whether your boss is a dick or just bad at communicating. Maybe his wife has cancer or something and he stays up crying all night. Maybe you’re the dick and you don’t know it.

You don’t really know if gay marriage will ruin the fabric of society or whether men and women really are so different or the same. You don’t know if that new job will make you happy, if getting married will fix your relationship problems (I’m betting on “no”), or whether or not your kid really deserves all those participation awards.

Life is lived in the uncertainties. Our certainties are just strategies we use to avoid that life. To avoid adapting and changing and flowing through it. Because education and learning shouldn’t end when the last textbook slams shut or when the diplomas are handed out. It should only end when we do.


http://markmanson.net/taught-in-school[/b]
Christianity EtcRe: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013(op):
[b] YAHWEH vs AMADIOHA

What is the difference between Yahweh and Amadioha? Nothing, they are both gods.

What is the difference between the speaking in tongues of a “born again” Christian and the incantations of a Juju worshipper? Nothing! They both speak gibberish in the name of talking to gods.

What is the difference between the sacrificial rituals in the bible and the sacrificial ritual of the African traditional worshipper? Nothing. They are both rituals.

What is the difference between the Pope’s regalia and the Juju priest's regalia? Nothing, except the Pope's regalia shines more.

What is difference between the statues, symbols, altars, and signs in churches and the idols and symbols in the temple of the juju priest? Nothing.

What is the difference between a pastor casting out demons and evil spirits with swearing, binding/casting and the exorcism of evil spirit by the Juju priest? Nothing.

There is only one difference - packaging! No religion is superior to another. Foreign religion appears to be more divine than our local religion simply because they are well packaged.

Force me to choose one of the two, I like the fans of Amadioha more. At least I know our politicians fear him more.
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Christianity EtcRe: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013(op): 5:32pm On Jul 22, 2015
You know, before Pope Alexander VI requested a painting of Jesus, there were no depictions of Him as a white man.

"Pope Alexander VI then ordered the destruction of all art depicting a Semitic Jesus and commissioned a number of paintings depicting a Caucasian Jesus. His son, Cardinal Cesare Borgia, was the model for these paintings. Thus, the nastiest of all the Borgias, became the iconic Caucasian Jesus so loved by Christians."

Think about that.

[img]http://dc405.4shared.com/img/CL3sidMCce/s7/14eb69b35b0/ancestor?async&rand=0.8707440651457388[/img]
SportsRe: All the News of Sunday Oliseh's Reign As Super Eagles Coach by joseph1013(op): 11:36am On Jul 22, 2015
[b][size=14pt]Oliseh: No Player Can Bribe Me[/size]



New Super Eagles coach Sunday Oliseh has warned players and agents who bribe their way into the national team to forget playing for Nigeria as he would not condone that from anybody.

Responding to the issue of agents and their players inducing national coaches to enter national teams, Oliseh said that such will not happen while he remains the Super Eagles coach, noting that he would not allow that to happen.

“Like I said earlier on, I will only invite players who merit to be in the national team by playing regular football in top European and African leagues,” Oliseh said. “I will call players who deserve to play for Nigeria. There will be no place for mediocrity in my team

“I dont want to believe that players and their agents bribe coaches to make the national team but if it is true it most unfortunate. I will not condone that. I am even too big to be bribed by any player. If it was so before, that era is gone because only the best will play for the Eagles.”

SOURCE: COMPLETESPORTS[/b]
Christianity EtcRe: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013(op):
[b]SCENARIOS WITH THE SERPENT

Germans are the most obedient people on earth: If Adam and Eve were Germans, the world would still remain a paradise, because they wouldn't have disobeyed the Jewish God when he told them not to eat the the apple.

Chinese people can eat serpents: if Adam and Eve, the serpent would have been history, because as soon they saw it, they would have killed it and used it to prepare a delicious stew.

Yoruba people like stories: If Adam and Eve were Yoruba, the world would still be a paradise, because they would have kept the serpent busy with plenty stories, and while doing that, god would have come and chased the serpent away…..

Hausa people like fight: if Adam and Eve were Hausas, the world would be better than paradise, because they will do even what god could not do, immediately they saw the serpent, they would draw out their dagger and cut the serpent’s head and that would have been the end of Devil.

Igbo people too like money: If Adam and Eve were Igbos, the world would have been in deeper trouble, knowing their penchant for business, they wouldn't have waited for the devil to tempt them, I bet you they would have offered and sold the apple for a good bargain to the serpent even before the serpent could tempt them

BUT; If Adam was named JOSEPH1013, (who I think has a huge appetite for knowledge) he wouldn't even need the devil to tempt him, just based on his own reasoning he would eat the apple.

Are you kiddinghuh? You keep a tree of knowledge right in my front and expect me not to eat?? I wont just take a bite, I would eat the whole apple and ask for more!!!!!!

How sane is this story where knowledge seeking is indicted, criminalized, penalized for eternity? Where would humans be without knowledge? What would human beings be without knowledge? Homo sapiens are knowledge seeking and patterns seeking beings.

My opinion is that if all the troubles that humans are facing is a punishment for Adam’ sins in Eden , then I think it’s very unfair not just to Adam but to human as well!

But thankfully, I don’t believe those concocted, fictitious atavistic and primitive tales! These tales cannot be believed by any right thinking person!

You should not believe them too.[/b]
Christianity EtcRe: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013(op): 5:50pm On Jul 21, 2015
[b]FAITH vs EVIDENCE

Faith and evidence are both used to help determine whether a proposition is true.

Evidence is very widely used. It is used by the police to determine if a person has a case to answer and by the law courts to help a jury decide is a person is guilty as charged.

Evidence is used in the form of examinations by schools and universities to determine if a student has achieved the required standard. It is used by doctors to diagnose illnesses and ensure the correct treatment is given. It is used by scientists to determine whether a hypothesis is correct.

In fact, we all rely on evidence to help us understand things every day.

Faith is very different and has a more limited application. Faith is generally used when there is no evidence available at all. It is commonly used to believe a god or gods exist or to believe the dogma of a religion.

Faith can be used by two different people to arrive at contradictory conclusions which is certain proof that it is an unreliable method. Yet oddly, whilst evidence may leave you only partially convinced of the truth of a proposition, faith can leave you CERTAIN a proposition is true.

People who use faith often try to deny the obvious fact that faith has no way to distinguish between true and false propositions.
Next time you encounter a person who relies on faith, ask them if they would be happy if the police, the courts, schools and doctors abandoned evidence and relied instead only on faith. Faith that allowed them to be 100% certain they are correct, even when there is evidence that directly contradicts them.

Honestly, only a fool would think that is a good idea. Faith--good for fools.[/b]
SportsRe: All the News of Sunday Oliseh's Reign As Super Eagles Coach by joseph1013(op): 3:58pm On Jul 21, 2015
[b][size=14pt]NFF MOVE IN ON OLISEH, AMODU CLASH[/size]

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The Nigeria Football Federation (NFF) have moved in to ensure that there would be no clash of roles between technical director Shaibu Amodu and Super Eagles coach Sunday Oliseh.

Will Amodu take a pay cut?

It is widely believed that the job description handed Amodu Shuaibu and that of Sunday Oliseh could see both men clash after the new Eagles coach was asked to also fashion out a developmental programme for the country.

"I want to assure you that we would not allow friction between Amodu and Oliseh," declared NFF head of technical committee Ayansi Agwu

"Both men know their job responsibilities and the good thing is that they have worked together before, so I don't envisage any kind of friction.

“Amodu was part of the interview process that brought Oliseh, so I think if he had an issue, he would have stated it."

Amodu, who is supposed to boss Oliseh, is on a monthly salary of 800,000 Naira, while Oliseh will take home five million Naira.

SOURCE: AFRICANFOOTBALL.COM[/b]
SportsRe: All the News of Sunday Oliseh's Reign As Super Eagles Coach by joseph1013(op): 3:53pm On Jul 21, 2015
[b][size=14pt]FOREIGN PROS TO JOIN EAGLES IN TANZANIA[/size]

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AfricanFootball.com has specially gathered that foreign-based professionals will join the rest of the Super Eagles squad directly in Tanzania ahead next month’s AFCON qualifier.

Nigeria are away to Tanzania in the weekend of September 4-6 in continuation of the qualifying tournament for the 2017 AFCON in Gabon.

They are second in their qualifying group behind Egypt after they beat Chad 2-0 at home and the Pharaohs defeated Tanzania 3-0 last month on the opening day of the qualifiers.

A top official told AfricanFootball.com that such an arrangement will ensure new coach Sunday Oliseh gets more time to work with the whole squad before his first match.

“The team could save as much as two days' training if the pros just join the squad of home-based players in Tanzania straight from their various bases,” disclosed the official.

“Oliseh wants to have as much time as he could get with the players before the match against Tanzania.”

Oliseh has compiled a list of 70 players who will be available for selection and this list has been further broken down into various categories including those who will get immediate invitation and those who will be considered later on.

SOURCE: AFRICANFOOTBALL.COM [/b]
SportsRe: All the News of Sunday Oliseh's Reign As Super Eagles Coach by joseph1013(op): 3:42pm On Jul 21, 2015
[b][size=14pt]EXCLUSIVE: OLISEH RECALLS MIKEL FOR TANZANIA[/size]


Chelsea midfielder Mikel Obi will be recalled by new Nigeria coach Sunday Oliseh for next month’s AFCON qualifier in Tanzania and played as a defensive midfielder, AfricanFootball.com has exclusively learnt.

New Eagles boss to meet Liverpool star

Mikel last played for the Super Eagles in November 2014 when Nigeria drew 2-2 with South Africa in a 2015 AFCON qualifier in Uyo.

“Mikel still remains one of Nigeria’s top stars in Europe even he is no longer playing regularly for Chelsea these days and that is why he will be part of Oliseh’s immediate plans, beginning with the AFCON qualifier in Tanzania next month,” a top official informed AfricanFootball.com

“But instead of giving him a free role as he has been given in the Eagles in the past, he will play as a defensive midfielder, like he does for his club.”

The Super Eagles are second behind Egypt in the qualifying group for the 2017 AFCON in Gabon after they beat Chad 2-0 in Kaduna in June.

SOURCE: AFRICANFOOTBALL.COM[/b]
SportsRe: All the News of Sunday Oliseh's Reign As Super Eagles Coach by joseph1013(op): 3:40pm On Jul 21, 2015
[b][size=14pt]Need for Speed: Three strikers set to explode under Oliseh[/size]

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Nigeria's new manager has indicated pace will be his weapon of choice in attack with the Super Eagles, so we take a look at three options he could consider

The unveiling of Sunday Oliseh as Super Eagles manager was full of interesting soundbites. His assertion that only players strutting their stuff in the topmost divisions would be considered elicited a lot of reactions; as such, something else just as important may have flown under the radar.

His statements on his planned playing style were vague enough to be open to interpretation. However, he was unequivocal when stating his basic criteria for selection in the forward line.

“You cannot play in our attacking line-up if speed is not one of your stronger points,” he stated.

This is perhaps the clearest indication of the sort of personnel choices to expect under the former Super Eagles captain. Pace is a purely physical attribute; you can hone technique and running style, but it is a biological trait rather than a skill. This may seem discriminatory to some; still, it cannot be denied that in modern football, pace is more important than it has ever been.

With this in mind, here are three forwards who are likely to be very influential during Oliseh’s reign.



MOSES SIMON


It has been an eventful 12 months for the 20-year-old Simon, who swapped Slovakian side AS Trencin for Gent in the January transfer window. He had already begun to turn heads, starring in Trencin’s brief Europa League run in the first half of the season.

His impact in Belgium was immediate and decisive. Seven goals and four assists in 19 appearances fired Gent to their first ever domestic title, and earned him his first caps for the Super Eagles in March.

His calling card is his searing pace and acceleration, strengths Gent boss Hein Vanhaezebrouck has used maximally. Often viewed as a winger with Nigeria’s youth teams, he is utilised upfront for the Buffaloes—he seeks to collect the ball in wide positions and run at his direct opponent. His quick feet often make him favourite to dominate in these situations.

Perhaps this is a pointer to how Oliseh might seek to utilise him. Played on the flank, his major flaw is more easily exposed: his decision-making is not yet where it should be, especially if the defending full-back forces him away from goal. However, if played centrally, his options are greatly multiplied.

If Oliseh seeks to use pace and trickery as his weapon of choice, then Simon could become a key component in his Super Eagles attack.



JERRY MBAKOGU


That Carpi will be debuting in Serie A this season owes much to Mbakogu’s goals. The 22-year-old scored 15 times in Serie B to lead the modest Modena outfit to promotion, and has reportedly been catching the eye of giants Napoli in recent months.

The striker is eligible for Italy, having moved there at a young age. He has however indicated his desire to represent the country of his birth, but is yet to be capped at international level.

Oliseh would do well to rectify this oversight as soon as possible. While Mbakogu is the slowest of the three presented here, he is no slouch. At over 6 feet tall, he is an impressive specimen in full flight, an aggressive and powerful runner who displays admirable calm in front of goal.

He has the physicality to lead the line on his own should Oliseh opt for a one-striker system, and also links up well enough to play with a partner. If there is a weakness to his game, it is that he does not always maintain control of the ball as he accelerates; as such, he is a lot more efficient when he can finish within one touch.

He will be strutting his stuff with the big boys in Serie A this term, so there is no danger of him falling short of Oliseh’s eligibility criteria. Call him up!



IMOH EZEKIEL


The reaction to Imoh’s decision to move to Qatari side Al Arabi following a groundbreaking season with Standard Liege was incredulous. Playing football in the Gulf is still somewhat associated with the twilight of a player’s career—hardly a choice destination for a 21-year-old making a name for himself.

Almost inevitably, he found his way back to Standard on loan and was impressive in the second half of the season. He particularly shone in the six-team Championship play-off, scoring four times and laying on two others in eight games.

His destination in the new season remains unclear presently, as rumours continue to link him to Belgian giants Anderlecht. However, if nothing materialises, he will find himself once again at Al Arabi.

Imoh thrives playing on the shoulder of the last defender, drifting into the channel before sprinting in behind. Lightning quick, his footwork is also strong, and he surprisingly scores quite a few headers, despite being only 5’ 6’’. Aside a good leap, he finds space well in the box.

Expectedly, his slight frame makes him a target for brawny centre-backs. While he is unlikely to compete in this situation, his speed on the turn makes him a nightmare to mark tightly.

Imoh possesses just the right set of attributes for a forward role, and he could star for the Super Eagles under Oliseh’s leadership.

SOURCE: GOAL.COM[/b]
SportsRe: All the News of Sunday Oliseh's Reign As Super Eagles Coach by joseph1013(op): 3:29pm On Jul 21, 2015
[b][size=14pt]Super Eagles job: an uphill task worth taking[/size]
by Sunday Oliseh

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It is definitely the most delicate football job on the African continent and the most demanding.

The job of super Eagles Coach is one many love to hate but, as a Nigerian ex international and patriot, it definitely does not leave me indifferent.

Many, out of love for our fatherland, have expressed their doubts in the ability of me and my crew to coach and take the Super Eagles to a higher level. This is understandable to an extent but definitely an added motivation.

I am fully aware that, though this is the honeymoon period of the job as we are yet to play a game, there are all kinds of other uphill difficulties ahead of us.

Nigeria does not boast of players who are plying their trade in the most prestigious clubs as was the case from the mid-1990s to the mid-2000s, but, with a population of 170 million people, we are definitely blessed with potential. Most especially when one takes into consideration that football is like a religion to Nigerians.

Our ranking by Fifa is not so enviable, thereby leaving us exposed to groupings with the best from Africa in qualifications for future major tournaments.

There are reported disagreements in the household of national football as the local league has lost so much credibility. The stadiums on national league days are rarely packed in certain league matches and we need to improve the pool of players available to us.

The Nigerian is so passionate about soccer that in a nation of 170 million people we have 170 Million coaches who are impatient, demanding and quick to dismiss any coach as a failure if he wins unconvincingly.

The most difficult task facing us is that Nigerians want the super eagles to not only win matches, but win them playing in a flamboyant manner and immediately.

This particular problem is further compounded by the fact that we only get players from their clubs, by Fifa rules, for four days before the national team games. Time is needed to work on the players!

We could go on and on but we are here to share why we feel it is worth giving it a try to make a difference and how we intend to try!

We intend to try out mainly with players who are used to playing top-flight football in any nation where they ply their trade - hence the criteria of first-division players.

We have a four-man coaching crew that is diversified but complimentary to try to make things work - one Belgo- Spanish assistant coach in Jean Francois Losciuto, who has been working in Africa for almost two years now, Salisu Yusuf and goalkeeper coach Alloy Agu, who is an ex international from the golden generation era.

Several other measures will be applied to try to improve our game but the joy that the common Nigerian feels when things are going well with Nigerian football is the greatest motivation that will drive me to give it all.

Many have asked, or insinuated, that they need me to miraculously repair our football in a flash! Though super motivated, I am not a messiah and will desperately need the help of the Nigerian Football Federation, the Nigerian people and, most importantly, God’s help and guidance.

When I was proposed the job, my first thought and reply was,“No, I am not interested.” After a second thought and discussions with family and close confidants, I could not help but go back on my decision as I decided to borrow a leaf from the new president of Nigeria, President Mohammadu Buhari, who at over 70 is bent on trying to bring about change and better the lives of his compatriots.

Contrary to what some have said, we never discussed money and financial details, as all we get is what our predecessors were paid and not more.

It is an uphill task that could blow away the good name that God blessed one with but, if there is one thing everyone can be rest assured of, coming from me, will be the input of 150 percent of my efforts to improve what we have.

Like I have always said, Nigeria is ours to make or break and we, and only we, can make it better by trying and not just sitting on the fence.

This is an uphill task worth taking on as it is for my people; my fellow countrymen, family, friends, and continent!

The journey has started and we invite you to please join us in trying to improve the fortune of the Super Eagles. We can be catalysts for change, but we need you to bring about and effect that change. God bless Nigeria.

COURTESY: SUPERSPORT[/b]
SportsRe: All the News of Sunday Oliseh's Reign As Super Eagles Coach by joseph1013(op): 3:26pm On Jul 21, 2015
[size=14pt]Oliseh ready to convince Jordan Ibe[/size]

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New Super Eagles boss, Sunday Oliseh, plans to speak with Liverpool forward Jordan Ibe, to convince him to play for Nigeria.

Ibe, whose father is Nigerian, has represented England at various age-group competitions.

But according to African Football, Oliseh is eager to make him choose the Eagles and not the Three Lions.


Oliseh at his media presentation last week, made it clear that he was looking for top-class players, who can change matches all by themselves.

Ibe is currently with the Reds on a training tour of Asia and Oliseh will have to wait for the 19-year-old to return to the UK.

“Oliseh, who has returned to Europe, will meet with Jordan Ibe to convince him he has a brighter future with Nigeria than England,” an official told AfricanFootball.com

SOURCE: DAILYPOST
SportsRe: All the News of Sunday Oliseh's Reign As Super Eagles Coach by joseph1013(op): 11:37am On Jul 19, 2015
[b][size=14pt]OLISEH PUSHES FOR MORE EAGLES BACKROOM CHANGES[/size]

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Sunday Oliseh is determined to start on a clean slate as Super Eagles coach and as such has demanded for more changes to his backroom staff.

Oliseh weathers committee storm

Oliseh personally requested for former international teammate Alloy Agu as goalkeeper trainer and he now wants more changes in his backroom staff as he begins a new Eagles era.

Agu has replaced former international goalkeeper Ike Shorunmu.

“He simply wants to begin on a clean slate and that is why he wishes to make more changes to the Eagles backroom staff,” a top official informed AfricanFootball.com

“What is now left is for the NFF secretariat to effect those changes.”

Oliseh has equally demanded that all his assistants be given their contracts as soon as possible.

Interestingly, Salisu Yusuf did not have such a contract when he was appointed to assist Stephen Keshi.

“Oliseh is a team player. He has made it very clear to the NFF that all his assistants get their own contracts soon so that the work can start in earnest,” another official disclosed.

Oliseh’s first match in charge of the Super Eagles will be a 2017 AFCON qualifier in Tanzania in early September.

The Eagles will also play a friendly days later.

SOURCE: AFRICANFOOTBALL.COM[/b]
SportsRe: All the News of Sunday Oliseh's Reign As Super Eagles Coach by joseph1013(op): 11:35am On Jul 19, 2015
[size=14pt]OLISEH BACK IN BELGIUM[/size]


Newly appointed Super Eagles Coach Sunday Oliseh has returned to Belgium, officials have disclosed.

A top official of the Nigeria Football Federation (NFF) told AfricanFootball.com the new Eagles coach is expected to return to the country two weeks before the Eagles AFCON 2017 qualifier against Tanzania in September.

The news would come as a surprise to many after the NFF insisted that the same contract handed to Keshi was handed to Oliseh.

"Oliseh is back to Belgium. He is expected to return at least two weeks before the qualifier against Tanzania," stated the official.

"At least this would give him time to plan for the match and subsequently upon his return release the list of players for the Tanzania game."

The NFF have already paid Oliseh three months’ salary of 15 million Naira in advance.

SOURCE: AFRICANFOOTBALL.COM
SportsRe: All the News of Sunday Oliseh's Reign As Super Eagles Coach by joseph1013(op): 11:27am On Jul 19, 2015
[b][size=14pt]OPINION: OLISEH MASSIVE GAMBLE TO BE SUPPORTED[/size]

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African football expert ‘Tunde Adelakun says it is a massive gamble for Nigeria to hire Sunday Oliseh, but he must be given all the support to succeed because in the long-term the country’s football team have to be headed by a local man.

I've chosen an appropriate day to put this out, given the name of my subject of discourse today.

Two weeks ago in Vancouver, while enjoying the final of the Women's World Cup, I met with the man I love to call my friend and boss - Nigeria Football Federation President Amaju Melvin Pinnick. Given my friendship with AMP, we tend to spend quite a bit of time together always talking Nigerian football and one of the times, he informed me of the recommendation and ratification of the decision of the NFF Disciplinary Committee to relieve erstwhile head coach of Nigeria, Stephen Keshi, of his position.

Now this did not come to me as much of a surprise. I never made a secret of my views, as far back as in October last year, that the NFF/Keshi association had expired and that any continuation of the alliance was just a time bomb waiting to explode.

This was not borne out of taking sides. I like to think that, since Stephen Keshi started his foray in coaching, in Togo, Mali and even with the Nigerian team, I got on very well with him, and regard him as a hero of African football.

I think he was pivotal in leading the exodus, or at least encouraging the exodus of African players to European leagues in the mid-1980s, which opened the floodgates of Europe to our boys, and hence brought about improved fortunes to persons and football nations alike.

I had no hand in him being re-hired by the NFF last year, nor did I have a hand in his removal in July this year. But I know that his time with the NFF had reached a point where a parting of ways was the best way forward.

When this did not happen in October last year, we all saw the result. Nigeria did not make it to the Africa Cup of Nations this year, and has been on a downward spiral on the much controversial, but only means of ranking teams to date, the FIFA rankings.

Amaju Pinnick informed me of the decision, and also told me that he was now looking for a coach to take Nigeria forward. He did hint me that his colleagues back in Nigeria were looking at, and talking up ex-international midfielder, Sunday Oliseh, to take over the reins of management of the Super Eagles.

Let me make it clear that I personally asked questions on the rationale behind this clamour. I told AMP that Sunny has all the qualifications, agreed; but has no experience of coaching. I told him that he may be a pretty face on TV, an articulate analyst loved by both FIFA and CAF, but can he bring it to bear on the field?

I asked questions. I asked about how Sunny appeared to me to be an arrogant person who tended to look down on people when he was playing. I personally had a slight altercation with him in 2001 when Nigeria was struggling to qualify for the 2002 World Cup, then languishing in 3rd place in our group, behind Liberia and Ghana!

I also heard later, in and around 2009/2011, how Sunny was offered the chance to join the Nigerian coaching setup as an assistant to the then Super Eagles coach, or take over one of the age-group teams. I was told that he "walked out" on the powers of the NFF at the time, insisting that it was either the top job or nothing for him. This claim was never refuted, but I certainly was not physically present at the meetings.

I warned AMP that there was a possibility of setting a dangerous precedent for our football culture, which could be translated to mean, "the best way to the job of your dreams will be to be rude and arrogant to your superiors and you will get it".

But I also had some memories of Sunday Oliseh the true Nigerian.

Who can forget the brilliant goal he scored for Nigeria in the World Cup in 1998 in France, the one that gave the Eagles a famous 3-2 win over Spain, one of Nigeria's proudest World Cup moments? It was a screamer, and well worth a few good looks even till this day.

I also remember Sunny the fully patriotic Nigerian, who, one day in Freetown, en route to qualification for the 2002 World Cup, showed so much passion and commitment, almost shedding tears for Nigeria as administrative flaws threatened the Eagles' appearance in a match against Sierra Leone. It was a match Nigeria lost 1-0 on the day, but I won't forget how it bothered Sunny before and after the match.

It showed that there were two sides to any person, and I had seen both ends.

AMP thought to give this young man a chance, met with him and invited him to come to Nigeria and talk to his technical committee. They were convinced, and he signed a contract.

He went to Abuja, and, as he is wont to do, mesmerised people with his presentation, his articulate answers, and his setting out of a plan on how to revamp Nigerian football fortunes. He was good, a good talker, a good planner, and you couldn't but be impressed by him.

Oliseh is an example of what African football needs more of. People who can hold their own, express themselves freely but clearly; a new breed of football players who are not drop-outs from school; a coach of Nigeria that we won't need to worry if he has no one in his company when talking to international media as he knows what to say, and how to say it.

Sunny certainly talked the talk, no doubt about that. But will he walk the walk?

The comments have started. Every ex-international who had access to a media man has given his verdict on whether the NFF did right or wrong hiring him. People have referred to his comments and picked holes in them.

Some question his utterances at not giving a chance to players who are not playing first team football for their clubs. Some have questioned his bringing a foreign assistant. Lots have been said.

I had my say when I was with the NFF president in Vancouver. I am not ashamed to say that I had more questions than most. Because I care; because I want the best for African football; because I am a very strong and loud advocate for the development of more indigenous African coaches, career coaches who will readily embrace the scientific modernisation of the game. So, yes I asked questions. You could even say I objected at first.

But I care. And when it was clear that the decision has been made, I did what anyone who genuinely cares would do - support it.

How will Sunny Oliseh turn around the fortunes of Nigerian football? How can he ensure that the country does not miss out on a second Africa Cup of Nations appearance in a row? How can he ensure a smooth transition of Nigerian youth players to graduate to the senior team? How can he set the pace for other young African coaches, ex-players who want to take up coaching, to actually take it up and make a success of it?

Eventually, Africa needs to stop automatically turning to Europe to find coaches for our national teams. Our youngsters like Sunny should put themselves in with a chance to do it and must be given a fair hearing. That's what I admire in what was done in Nigeria. That's why I had to accept the decision to employ him.

In a few weeks, Nigeria's qualification campaign for AFCON 2017 resumes. Oliseh is in the driving seat. Whatever anyone thinks about the appointment, it has been done. And we now have to support it.

Oliseh is now a symbol of the African young coach. He is an ambassador of local indigenous involvement in coaching national teams in Africa. It goes beyond Nigeria. Africa needs its own coaches. Coaches that know the terrain of Africa, coaches that know the mentality and culture of the African player.

Oliseh has shown that you can learn and educate yourself to as high a level as you want to. And Amaju Melvin Pinnick and his NFF have shown the way to other African federations that these men should be given a chance. It is a gamble, a massive one.

If it pays off, NFF will be vindicated. For the sake of vindication, I pray that it does pay off. I hope that he gets results, and makes positive impact on Nigerian football, enough to make people see that it was right to give him the chance.

But even if doesn't pay off on this occasion, it shouldn't reduce the level of vindication. Because ultimately, Africa still needs its own coaches. And we will not always get it right, but where in this world is it perfect?

SOURCE: AFRICANFOOTBALL.COM[/b]
SportsRe: All the News of Sunday Oliseh's Reign As Super Eagles Coach by joseph1013(op): 11:20am On Jul 19, 2015
[b][size=14pt]Oliseh Backs Enyeama Over Kaduna Comment[/size]

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Super Eagles head coach, Sunday Oliseh, has said Vincent Enyeama did no wrong in criticising the choice of Kaduna after a game against Chad during the first leg of the 2017 Cup of Nations qualifiers.

Enyeama was issued a query by the Football Federation after the comment. He was also summoned to the disciplinary committee which he failed to appear, followed by speculations he might not be invited to play for the Eagles again.

However, Chairman of the disciplinary committee, Chris Green said the Federation has decided to pardon Enyeama and they will make it a family issue.

Speaking on a recent television programme, Oliseh who is a former captain of the Super Eagles supported Enyeama and quickly added that, he can be guided to avoid negative effects on the team.

READ ALSO: Why Nigerian Players Fail To Succeed

“When Enyeama made that statement, he was and is still the Team’s captain of the Super Eagles of Nigeria”

“You cannot forbid the captain from speaking out; it becomes autocratic if you do that and I would not want to do that as a coach; but at the same time we can also caution Enyeama and say we don’t want such kinds of utterances because it may bring about a negative effect” he added.

Explaining further, Oliseh reiterated that Enyeama spoke on behalf of the team and should not be stopped from speaking out because he is the captain.

“I however think he might be speaking out because of what he has discussed with his teammates, and I don’t think we should stop someone from speaking out when he is the captain.”

“I will speak to the captain and we will look at the way forward because I still view him as one of the best goalkeepers we have” he concluded.

SOURCE: NAIJ.COM[/b]
SportsRe: All the News of Sunday Oliseh's Reign As Super Eagles Coach by joseph1013(op): 11:17am On Jul 19, 2015
[b][size=14pt]Sunday Oliseh: The anti-Keshi makes a rod for his own back[/size]

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It’s easy to understand the sense of optimism that has accompanied Sunday Oliseh’s arrival in the Nigeria hotseat.

The coach is already a Super Eagles legend, possesses that happy combination of freshness and familiarity—as I explored in a recent editorial—and isn’t tarnished by the national team’s decline over the last 18 months.

What encourages me the most is the fact that—for the first time in a long time—both coach and NFF appear to be on the same page.

There appears to be a mutual understanding, warmth and respect between Amaju Pinnick and his chosen one, and this united front, this singularity of direction and combined approach ought to serve the team well. This is something, of course, that appeared to never truly exist between Keshi and Pinnick—admittedly made difficult after the inauspicious start to their relationship—and which will hopefully avoid the unwanted embarrassments and distractions that plagued the team over the last 10 months.

However, despite the early optimism that accompanied Oliseh’s arrival—and ought to accompany him into the future—one comment made by the new man was of some concern.

It is a statement already considered by my colleague Solace Chukwu, but one which demands further consideration.

The new coach stated that—with the sole exception if impressive players from the youth sides—that only players from ‘first divisions’ home and abroad would be considered for selection.

The announcement was largely received by the media as a major positive step by the new coach; as a statement of intent, as a guarantor of quality and as an assurance that only the best players would be considered for the national side.

One respected journalist even described it as a major hurdle which had been overcome, and a sign that the odd selection decisions that had undermined previous coaches would be a thing of the past.

In my opinion, it’s a ridiculous conclusion to draw.

First of all, Oliseh’s call feels something like a crowd-pleasing statement. It comes across as a paraphrased attempt to say: “It’s time to end the dross and the underachievement and accept only the best from now on.”

It’s a statement that almost automatically gives the Oliseh era an indisputable mark of quality, that the new man won’t accept the underwhelming standards of the previous regime.

However, broken down, Oliseh’s statement feels remarkably arbitrary and somewhat vague. His original comment was “if you’re not playing the first division in any league in the world you will not make the team.” Presumably, he means the top division of any of the world’s nations, rather than the strongest or best divisions in the world.

Good news, then for Aaron Samuel, who features in the Chinese Super League with Guangzhou R&F. Good news too for Emmanuel Emenike, who recently swapped the Turkish Super Lig for Arab Pro League outfit Al Ain. These two guys play in the highest division in the nations they’re based in, and ‘make the quality cut’ as per Oliseh’s standards.

But of course, it’s illogical.

The Thai Premier League, for example, or the Maltese top flight are not as strong as the English Championship, a division I follow closely and one featuring many Nigerian players.

Odion Ighalo, of course, would not have been considered for a spot in the national team last season, despite his remarkable goal-scoring form in the Championship. The forward impressed after making his international debut—and has already found the net—but he wouldn’t have been afforded this opportunity had Oliseh taken over earlier.

Hope Akpan, of Reading, would not have made his international bow last season, while Kenneth Omeruo, similarly, a cornerstone of the defence, would have been overlooked during his loan spell at Middlesbrough.

The Nigerian may yet return to a Championship side on loan this season—will he be dropped by Oliseh? Would the new coach prefer a star turn in Chelsea reserves to another promotion hunt in England’s second tier?

Would Omeruo, for example, refuse a potentially valuable career loan to a Championship side in order to remain in the manager’s plans?

What of Moses Odubajo, who missed out on promotion with Brentford yet has commanded a place in the England U20 side last season?

There are one or two other established players for whom Oliseh’s statement would also have consequences; Sone Aluko, for example, recently relegated with Hull, or Juwon Oshaniwa, who was relegated from Israeli Premier League with Ashdod—he’d better hope that that move to Hearts goes through!

I suspect that Ramon Azeez, who was relegated with Almeria, will be out of the picture, while Oliseh’s comment also brings the curtain down on Sunday Mba’s career—as if that hadn’t happened already.

I agree with Henry Nwosu, and his point that there are still players playing outside top divisions who can contribute positively to the national side. Ghana, for example, made it to the final of the Africa Cup of Nations with two players—Kwesi Appiah and Brimah Razak—who hadn’t spent the previous six months in a top division.

If it worked for the Black Stars and Avram Grant, and even if it’s not an ideal solution, why could it not work for Oliseh?

This brings me onto my final point.

Something that should be one of Nigeria’s main strengths in the international arena is the broad scope and volume of our national pool. Nigerians are everywhere, and this strength in depth is one of the Super Eagles’ key strengths; why would Oliseh choose to reduce the national pool and make arbitrary rule to reduce the selection?

The manager is making a rod for his own back, and laying down laws which—surely, hopefully—he will be forced to break in the future.

I can just imagine the uproar when Chuba Akpom, on loan at Huddersfield Town, goes on a remarkable scoring run, declares for Nigeria, but isn’t picked for the Cup of Nations due to Oliseh’s ridiculous rule.

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Christianity EtcRe: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013(op):
[b]For more than five years, religious people have been praying to God to wipe out Boko Haram from the face of Nigeria but unfortunately, BH still strive, kill, maim and render thousands of people homeless.

Despite the prayers, fasting and crusades, BH still invade religious places killing and injuring hundreds with reckless abandon.

Most clerics now seek for armed police and military escorts and protection right inside the house of their all powerful God. They pray and worship their God in fear. Some religious folks don't even bother going to church or mosque in Northern Nigeria anymore because they KNOW that when BH strikes, death and injury is a sure thing even when they are praying to their Gods.

Some clerics still claim to be trusting in their God for divine protection but they can never move an inch without their armed escorts.

So what is the use of worshiping a god who cannot protect you even in his place of worship?

Or does it mean he is not whom you think he is? Does it mean he does not exist except in your imaginations?[/b]
Christianity EtcRe: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013(op): 1:07pm On Jul 16, 2015
[b]ARE ATHEISTS CERTIFIABLY INSANE?

Imagine if Christianity were true. The benefits would be undeniable. Imagine having an awesomely powerful and intelligent friend, who never sleeps, looking out for you 24 hours a day.

Whenever you need guidance, you could ask advice from the most knowledgeable and intelligent being in the universe. He could perform miracles to keep you and your family safe. He could do things that the world's finest doctors and scientists could only dream about. He could cure any disease, stop earthquakes, divert asteroids, calm tsunamis and send volcanoes back into the centre of the earth.

On top of all that God would love you billions of times more than we could ever love the person we cherish most in the world. And whilst human love is often tarnished with some degree of selfishness, God's love would always be wholly selfless and unconditional.

As you learn more about this extraordinary god from the book he directly inspired, you would see everything making perfect sense. You would look around and see physical evidence proving the truth of his extraordinary deeds described in the Bible.

Last, but far from least, the pages of the Bible reveal the ultimate benefit of God's love for you--the chance to enjoy a blissfully happy life forever in a place where aging, disease, death, pain and suffering cannot exist.

.....

If all this were true, only the certifiably insane would ignore these fantastic benefits. But millions consider that God, all his supernatural friends and enemies, all the stories of his amazing deeds and the promises of an eternal afterlife to be stories invented by people who wished they were true.

The people who arrive at this conclusion are not certifiably insane. Far from it. They are, on average, better educated than those who believe the stories. They hold responsible jobs; they are overwhelmingly good citizens and good parents.

They are not insane but they are realistic. They see no evidence that such a god exists and, when they look at believers, they see no evidence of an awesome god working in their lives. Often, they see people who look as though they need such a god but lack one.

If any insanity is at play here, it is not among those folk who objectively evaluate evidence to arrive at a rational conclusion...[/b]
SportsRe: All the News of Sunday Oliseh's Reign As Super Eagles Coach by joseph1013(op): 12:34pm On Jul 16, 2015
[b][size=14pt]We don’t have the talent! – Why Sunday Oliseh must be brutally honest from the start[/size]
by Prof Patrick Omo-Osagie

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The presumptive Nigeria coach must be bold in his introductory address to tell the nation that a lot of work needs to be done in order to get the national team back to reckoning

GOALSports Verdict By Prof Patrick Omo-Osagie Follow on Twitter
United States coach Jürgen Klinsmann said this to a New York Times reporter before the 2014 World Cup in Brazil: “We cannot win this World Cup, because we are not at that level yet. For us, we have to play the game of our lives seven times to win the tournament”.

This was a brutally honest quote which the Americans are not used to in the field of sports; in fact, the USA was one of four countries that believed that they would win the World Cup in a pre-tournament poll.

Our presumptive coach of the Super Eagles Sunday Oliseh might well be bold in his introductory press conference to blurt this out: “We cannot win the next World Cup. The reasons are not farfetched; we don’t have the players that can win the Cup in four years. We do not even have any players in the very lucrative European league market this off-season.”

In sports or in football, you win with talent and not coaches. Your coach is your gateway for a good and talented team of players, and that is what Oliseh’s job description should be.

Klinsmann’s job in the US is to turn the football programme around. He is to build a team that can contend every four years. He is also the technical director of USA football and he must develop a coherent style of play that will be employed at all levels of US teams. However, Klinsmann is hated by MLS teams because he sends all talented young Americans into Europe instead of going to university and he proactively identifies and recruits dual nationals.

Before Oliseh’s coming, here is what the new NFF has been doing – actively recruiting dual nationals to play for Nigeria, and installing a committee within the Federation to identify and send abroad our young talented Nigerians. What we read about the present negotiations between the NFF and Oliseh is that the former Super Eagles captain will have the duty of crafting playing style for Nigerian football, a playing and coaching philosophy.

He will be assisted by a Belgian technical coach whose functions will be to tutor our young players and coaches. Oliseh will draw a five year plan for Nigerian football and will be actively involved in the development of players within our system.

You can see that the roles of Klinsman and Oliseh are very similar; but Oliseh does not carry the same coaching experience that Klinsman has.

Besides a UEFA Pro license, Oliseh has not coached any team of importance. Though he seems to be very good in his football speaking and writing engagements, his understanding of the game on paper cannot be disputed. His understanding of the game as a player cannot also be disputed but our only concern is his lack of coaching experience at top club level or country.

But our concern will be valid if we think that we have the players that can win the World Cup in 2018; then we can complain about his lack of practical coaching experience at this level but if as I believe that we are nowhere near getting a quarter final berth at the World Cup, then a man like Oliseh is the best shot at improving our football. He has the paper qualification, he is charismatic enough to be a good leader; he has already shown that he has exceptional communication skills (oral and written) and his technical understanding cannot also be overlooked, for he was on the FIFA Technical Study Group at the 2014 World Cup Brazil.

Oliseh coming on board only shows that the NFF sees our football problems, our lack of good players who can compete at the highest levels of the game.

Sunday Oliseh must be given a chance, he must be provided with all the resources needed and he must not be ‘hounded’ for results.

Source: Goal.com[/b]
SportsRe: All the News of Sunday Oliseh's Reign As Super Eagles Coach by joseph1013(op): 12:32pm On Jul 16, 2015
ProPastorChris:
tnx OP
but I want to know how much the assistant going to be paid, is oliseh also getting a car and accommodation also?
Oliseh will be earning 5m/month (Same amount Keshi was earning), while Salisu, Loscuito and Agu will earn 3m/month.

And yeah, Oliseh's package comes with a car and accommodation, at least from what's stated in his contract.
SportsRe: All the News of Sunday Oliseh's Reign As Super Eagles Coach by joseph1013(op): 11:58am On Jul 16, 2015
[b][size=14pt]Appointing Sunday Oliseh proves Nigeria are on a better trajectory[/size]

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Since retiring, Sunday Oliseh has made a living as a TV pundit as well as earning his UEFA Pro License.
On Wednesday, Nigeria's football federation announced they were in talks with former captain Sunday Oliseh to replace the sacked Stephen Keshi.

Top sources within the federation, however, say the deal is done bar the shouting, and Oliseh will be presented next week as the new Nigeria coach.

The announcement of Oliseh was greeted with generally positive views from across the country's football-following population. Not least because he is a member of Nigeria's revered Golden Class of '94.

Principled, eloquent, strong-willed and passionate are all attributes that Oliseh has come to be known for. In addition, a keen analytical mind has also shone through in his appearances as a TV pundit for African pay TV channel SuperSport.

More importantly, Oliseh has acquired UEFA's Pro License, one of the highest and most respected coaching qualifications worldwide.

Toss in his membership in FIFA's Technical Study Group over the past two years, and there is plenty of room for optimism.

However, Oliseh's biggest drawback is he is a little light in the actual experience department, having only ever coached in the Belgian lower tier.

But considering no African has managed a top-flight European team despite many acquiring badges, that is an achievement in its own.

In any case, the likes of Michel Platini, Franz Beckenbauer, Berti Vogts, Rudi Voller, Jurgen Klinsmann, Dunga and others went straight from playing to coaching with relative success.

Oliseh is acknowledged as one of the most cerebral players Nigeria have produced, a trait that is largely responsible for sparking the current wave of optimism.


Stephen Keshi's on-today-off-tomorrow relationship with the Nigeria Football Federation was finally severed last week.
The real story however, and one which has sort of slipped under the radar, is the marked difference in the way the NFF have gone about the recruitment process.

In previous years, the process of hiring a new coach took the form of a badly-choreographed circus show, stretching on for weeks. Sometimes months.

Applications were invited, candidates were shortlisted, high-profile coaching names were dropped with indiscriminate abandon, committees were set up to gallivant around Europe in 'search' of a coach before settling on some underwhelming appointment.

None of that happened this time. A day after Keshi was let go, top NFF officials teleconferenced. President Amaju Pinnick was in Canada at the FIFA Women's World Cup. His two vice presidents, Seyi Akinwunmi and Shehu Dikko, were in Lagos and Abuja, respectively.

But all three agreed on criteria for the new coach, and immediately honed in on Oliseh. He was contacted, discussions began, and within a day, a general understanding had been reached.

By the time Pinnick arrived in London on Monday, a ticket had been booked for Oliseh to meet him there and finalize the terms of the agreement.

This change in the way the NFF went about their business reflects a growing -- if so far largely unacknowledged -- trend with this current leadership.

A lot of the work being done has been geared toward long-term capacity building and improvement of structures.

In the past seven months, over 150 coaches have been trained in the CAF C license. That's more than in the last pour years. A and B courses have been scheduled for later this year.

Another 20 coaches were sent to England to study match analysis, opposition scouting, and the use of ProZone software which the federation acquired.

Also sent to England for training were 30 referees. The results have been evident in the domestic league, where statistics from the opening 10 weeks of the season showed an average of one away win and three draws per match day.

In the past, away wins were virtually nonexistent. On the rare occasions when they happened, referees and visiting teams were regularly assaulted.

A youth development program is also scheduled to begin later this year, and this is where Oliseh comes in.


Sunday Oliseh was a member of Nigeria's revered Golden Class of '94.
He arrives with Jean Francois Losciuto, a Belgian who also holds a UEFA license and was assistant to Oliseh during his time coaching RCS Verviers before he became a director of the youth academy at Belgian club RFC Liege.

Losciuto went on to coach Rwandan club Rayon Sport and Burkina Faso champions ASFA Yennenga.

Included in Oliseh's proposed job description is an agreement that will see him draw up a five-year development plan for the restructuring of the game in Nigeria.

In this respect, he will work with local coaches to draw up policy and a homogenous playing philosophy for Nigerian football at all levels. Losciuto will have direct oversight of that department.

Akinwunmi says the federation is thinking long term. "For too long we have been looking at immediate gains and losing sight of the future. Our game is in a mess. The only way to make things work is to start from the root. And that's why we went for someone like Oliseh, who is not only a local and understands what the problem is, but has the global expertise to apply it to our peculiar situation."

Akinwunmi's view is echoed by Dikko, who says Oliseh will get the full cooperation of the NFF.

"Being one of us, Oliseh is as invested in this as any Nigerian," he said.

"He is passionate enough to want to give his all to make it work.

"That is why we never even considered a foreigner despite all the applications we got.

"He will receive every bit of support he needs to make this work, because if he fails, we all fail."

Oliseh has requested a sitdown with the NFF after 12 months to review progress on the benchmarks set. No contract has been signed yet, no work done. But already, there is a buzz within the federation.

Hopefully, the dawn will prove to be true rather than false.

Source: ESPN[/b]
SportsRe: All the News of Sunday Oliseh's Reign As Super Eagles Coach by joseph1013(op): 11:29am On Jul 16, 2015
[b][size=14pt]EXCL: OLISEH WEATHERS TECH. CTTE 'STORM'[/size]

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It seems new Eagles coach Sunday Oliseh will not only have to massage the giant egos of his players, but also some bruised ones on the NFF technical committee after he came through a “stormy” session with them.

AfricanFootball.com specially gathered that Oliseh’s first meeting with the committee headed by Felix Anyansi-Agwu was meant to be a ritual before his formal endorsement by the executive committee as the country’s new supremo.

But it was much more than that as Oliseh had to fight off several pitch battles with some of the committee members, the classic baptism of fire.

In attendance at the meeting, which did not end till 2am Wednesday, were Anyansi, Ahmed Yusuf ‘Fresh”, Paul Bassey, ex-internationals Mutiu Adepoju, Victor Ikpeba, Garba Lawal as well as Salisu Yusuf, Jean Francois Loscuito, who are part of his backroom staff.

Chairman of the NFF study group Austin ‘Jay Jay’ Okocha, was conspicuously missing at the meeting even though he is expected to work closely with Oliseh.

He has tried to be named assistant coach for Oliseh.

“It was charged atmosphere as some of the members took on Oliseh during the meeting,” an official informed AfricanFootball.com

“Personally, some of the arguments and disagreements smacked of petty jealousy as some of them questioned why it had to be Sunny even though they knew they cannot change the decision of the board.”

Another official added: “The tension was so high that at some point NFF president Pinnick had to come to the defence of Oliseh.

“But Oliseh gave as much as he got, so he was more than up to the opposition.

“And now he already knows he has to watch his back especially as it concerns the technical committee.”

Source: AfricanFootball.com [/b]
SportsRe: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by joseph1013(op): 11:24am On Jul 16, 2015
LeeCodeman:
joseph1013 starts another thread on Sunday Oliseh as Super Eagles Coach.

Knowing him, I know this will be good

https://www.nairaland.com/2455733/all-news-sunday-olisehs-reign
Thanks boss. I'm a lil excited at Sunday Oliseh. Cautious excitement, though.

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