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Christianity EtcRe: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013(op): 5:08pm On Jan 12, 2017
EVIDENCE AND CREATIONISM

Creationists have developed an industry dedicated to poking holes in the evidence for evolutionary theory. Honestly, I would be excited if they succeeded because it could improve our understanding of the origin of species.

But they won't succeed by dishonest quote-mining, denying we can understand anything if "we weren't there", claiming that known limitations in archaeological dating science means no dating techniques work, or proposing a gigantic, world-wide conspiracy.

When Benjamin Franklin and others explained the causes of lightning, they didn't do it by picking holes in the God explanation--they brought compelling evidence and the God explanation became irrelevant.

If creationists have a better explanation than science, let them bring their evidence. If it's good, evolutionary theory will become as irrelevant as the God explanation for lightning. But here is the problem. Creationists REFUSE to offer evidence. They won't even tell us what evidence would confirm or falsify creationism so we can look for it ourselves.

You can't get blood from a stone because it has no blood. And you cannot get evidence from a creationist because he has no evidence. Creationism is irrelevant.
PhonesRe: Gionee M5 Discussion Thread[HOT] by joseph1013: 5:04pm On Jan 12, 2017
lavenderjade:
you don damage am
What do you mean?
PhonesRe: Gionee M5 Discussion Thread[HOT] by joseph1013: 7:00am On Jan 12, 2017
honsule:
2 days
I just got mine last week. I am a heavy user. The battery does not last more than 24 hours. Is that normal? It discharges about 10% overnight.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by joseph1013: 6:31pm On Jan 11, 2017
goldfish80:
You obviously missed my point.
Yes, it makes sense to invite young players with the intention to expose them to international football and integrate those who are ready to the team.
My point is that, the so called young players need to buy a ticket to be considered for such invites.
Our national team is our pride. We can't have Junior who plays in the German amateur division for Hannover U19's to be invited for such expos. We are not in the mid 2000's where an Abbey George playing non-league football will be holding sway in our Super Eagles. The criteria should be that such player must have broken into his clubs first team to get such invite. Ovie Ejaria qualifies for such look in.

The u21 team as suggested by Icon4s is a good one but funny enough, the Nff is downsizing the number of national teams in their portfolio due to cash crunch.
Again, Caf should consider having an U21 championship like Europeans do. The game needs to develop further in Africa due to the world cup expansion.
It's innovative having CHAN championship but the U21/19 championships will go along way in shapping talents from our continent.

Further more, the Caf champions league and confederations cup format should be tweaked to meet the demands of the 21st century.
An 8 team, 2 groups format in the Caf champions league is laughable. It looks like an amateur league structure.
The Caf champions league format should be expanded to 16 team formate in a group of 4.

We need to do what is necessary to raise the game in Africa. The extra world cup slots should count to our advantage.
On his day, this guy can make sense ehn.
PhonesRe: Gionee M5 Discussion Thread[HOT] by joseph1013: 5:06pm On Jan 11, 2017
honsule:
I bought my M5 sometime January 2016. A year anniversary now.
I just discovered 2 days back, that the battery hardly last a whole day. In fact, with browsing and playing music intermittently, before 1pm the battery juice has dropped to almost 30%. and before 4pm I was advised to connect my phone to charger....
How long did it last when you bought it?
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by joseph1013: 12:49pm On Jan 11, 2017
We Have Lots Of Options In Attack – Rohr Cast Doubts Over Immediate Invitation Of Bournemouth Star Ibe Invitation

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The possible invitation of Bournemouth star Jordon Ibe to the Super Eagles of Nigeria won’t be as fast as many have expected with coach Gernot Rohr admitting that competition is stiff in the attack of the team.

Ibe has indicated his willingness to play for Nigeria after initially snubbing overtures to play for the team, when he had his breakthrough at Liverpool.

However will his decision has been hailed by some Nigerians, who view him as a positive addition to the firepower of the team, the coach says his inclusion will be based on merit.

” We have options in attack, and if Ibe is truly willing to play for Nigeria then he will also be a part of the options we have in attack. He is a good player but other players in his position are not doing bad as well”, Rohr told Owngoalnigeria.com.

” The idea is to select the best players for Nigeria at all time. We need our best legs to help our dream of going to the World Cup 2018, hopefully we will have the players we want for specific games”.

http://owngoalnigeria.com/2017/01/11/we-have-lots-of-options-in-attack-rohr-cast-doubts-over-immediate-invitation-of-bournemouth-star-ibe-invitation/
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by joseph1013: 12:47pm On Jan 11, 2017
Nigerian Players Are Talented And Easy To Coach – Rohr

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The coach of the senior national team of Nigeria Gernot Rohr says players of Nigeria team are on the list of some of the most talented bunch he has handled as a manager.

The Franco-German coach was appointed coach of Nigeria last year with a clear mandate to ensure that Nigeria qualifies for the World Cup 2018 in Russia.

Rohr has handled the Eagles in three games, and has a perfect run after picking up victories in the three games against Tanzania, Zambia and Algeria respectively.

While many has praised his tactical nous as part of the reason why the team is excelling in the World Cup 2018 qualifiers, where they are currently top of their group, the manager insist that it wouldn’t have been possible without his players.

” When you walk with the set of players that I have, they make your job easy. They are clearly in the list of one of the best bunch of players I have coached in my career. They are humble and easy to coach”, Rohr said to Owngoalnigeria.com during an interview at the Glo CAF Award gala.

http://owngoalnigeria.com/2017/01/11/nigerian-players-are-talented-and-easy-to-coach-rohr/
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by joseph1013: 10:07pm On Jan 10, 2017
AIG07:
@Joseph1013 n terzurum. Why did u guys drop ur red paint for a water colour. The bolded fonts u use before is more appealling to d sight.
Seun's site is a mess. So many functionalities are no longer working well.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by joseph1013: 10:01am On Jan 10, 2017
terzurum5:
Joseph1013 am I a copy cathuh
Lol
You're doing well. LOL
Christianity EtcRe: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013(op): 7:32am On Jan 10, 2017
Nigeria's biggest problem isn't corruption. It is the failure of institutions. Our institutions are built around personalities. As soon as that strong leader is replaced all their efforts are reversed in one night and we are back to square one.
Absolutely gutted to learn that President Buhari has sacked the man that had the guts to bring transparency to NGO's including churches.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by joseph1013: 1:30pm On Jan 09, 2017
Nigeria Have Stolen One Of Germany’s Brightest prospect In Fabian Senninger – German Journalist

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Owngoalnigeria.com contact in Germany Roland Mark says Super Eagles latest addition Fabian Senninger will be a big loss to Germany in the future.

Fabian Senninger has pledged his international future to Nigeria ahead of Germany, the country of his birth and his father as he feels more at home with the national team of the country where his mother hails from.

Although he is virtually unknown to many in Germany, Mark reckons that he belongs to a class of upcoming talented defenders in the country.

” Nigeria have stolen one of Germany’s brightest prospect in defence. Senninger has all it takes to be a world class defender in a year or two.

” He recently joined Hannover 96 on a professional deal from Nike Academy, but before then am well aware that he had a short trial with Burnley”, Mark told Owngoalnigeria.com.

” He is very quick, can play as a right or left full back because he uses both feet correctly, he started off as a defensive midfielder, so he can also play there. He was by far the best player at the Nike Academy during his time there”.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by joseph1013: 1:29pm On Jan 09, 2017
Super Eagles Defender Troost-Ekong Scores Own Goal In Debut Game For Gent

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Super Eagles and Gent of Belgium defender William Troost-Ekong had an unofficial debut he won’t want to remember after scoring an own goal as his side fell 1-3 to Dutch side Willem II.

The Nigerian was handed a start by coach Hein Vanhaezebrouck in the friendly tie alongside two other Nigerians in Anderson Esiti and Rabiu Ibrahim.

Ekong’s afternoon was soiled when the 23 year old unfortunately diverted a harmless ball from Erik Falkenburg into his team’s net to give Willem II a 2-0 lead minutes into the second half.

He was substituted shortly afterwards with the coach keen on giving all of the players he has on the bench a run out ahead of the restart of the Belgian league.

Rabiu Ibrahim and Anderson Esiti were also substituted in the second half while Samuel Kalu made his debut following his move from AS Trencin. Meanwhile former Eagles forward Bartholomew Ogbeche was a second half substitute for Willem II.

http://owngoalnigeria.com/2017/01/08/super-eagles-defender-troost-ekong-scores-own-goal-in-debut-game-for-gent/
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by joseph1013: 1:28pm On Jan 09, 2017
Arsenal Loanee Kelechi Nwakali On Target Again For Dutch Side

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On loan Arsenal teen midfielder Kelechi Nwakali was among the goal scorers for his loan side MVV Maastricht in their first game of 2017 which they won 3-2 against Seraing of Belgium.

The 18 year old scored his first goal for the team in their penultimate game of last year, netting in the 2-0 win against De Graafschap, a result that keeps their promotion dreams alive.

Nwakali picked up from where he left off in 2016 when he fired in his side’s third goal from a quick counter attack with scores at 2-1 in favour of his side.

After giving his side a 3-1 lead, he wasted two good chances to kill the game off as a contest before the second division Belgian side reduced the deficit to end the tie at 3-2.

On a season long loan from Arsenal, he has so far made 11 appearances for promotion chasers MVV, where his performances have also earned him Man of The Match Award and rare reviews.

http://owngoalnigeria.com/2017/01/08/arsenal-loanee-kelechi-nwakali-on-target-again-for-dutch-side/
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by joseph1013: 1:23pm On Jan 09, 2017
HE'S LIKE A YOUNG VIERA - HOW LEICESTER CITY FANS REACTED TO NDID DEBUT ON TWITTER


Leicester City £15m January signing Wilfred Ndidi made his debut for the team in their 2-1 win over Everton in the FA Cup.

Ndidi was handed his first start by Manager Claudio Ranieri, despite the fact that he has only trained with the squad twice following the confirmation of his transfer from Genk of Belgium.

Owngoalnigeria.com bring to you the reactions of fans of the club on twitter after his debut for the team, who are hoping he will fill the void created by the departure of French midfielder N’golo Kante.

See Tweets.

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SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by joseph1013: 1:19pm On Jan 09, 2017
Icon4s:
Please who watched Everton vs Leicester City?

We need an expert's analysis on how Ndidi faired.

Can't wait to watch Leicester Vs Chelsea. Musa and Ndidi vs Moses.
I didn't watch but followed on twitter. Every tweet about him showed he was impressive.

Leicester city plays Chelsea on Saturday (6:30pm) so that's a good game to show the world he is the even better than Kante (like Colin Udoh has always been saying).
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by joseph1013: 1:15pm On Jan 09, 2017
Icon4s:
Please who watched Everton vs Leicester City?

We need an expert's analysis on how Ndidi faired.

Can't wait to watch Leicester Vs Chelsea. Musa and Ndidi vs Moses.
Ndidi Wins BBC MOTM Award, Earns Praises From Everton Legend For Stellar Display

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Wilfred Ndidi has gotten his first recognition in English football after picking up the BBC Man of The Match award on his debut for Leicester City in their 2-1 FA Cup win over Everton.

BBC Radio Live anchor Matt Elliot announced the 20 year old Nigerian as the man of the match shortly after the game, as he was particularly impressed by the speed at which he integrated into the Leicester squad despite having just two training sessions before the game.

” He’s slotted in and looked very impressive”, he said and his view was accepted by callers during the show as well as pundits who also saw the game.

Former Everton forward Leon Osman who watched the game as an anchor for BBC as well was also impressed by Ndidi’s performance on his debut terming his display as superb.

” He did a real good job for a guy making his debut. He was superb, cool and very assured on the ball plus he covers lot of grounds. Am impressed”.

http://owngoalnigeria.com/2017/01/09/ndidi-wins-bbc-motm-award-earns-praises-from-everton-legend-for-stellar-display/
Christianity EtcRe: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013(op): 11:36am On Jan 09, 2017
THE AGE OF CELEBRITY... BUT AT WHAT COST?
by Michael Arnovitz

Check the image below. The guy on the left of the photo below. He died in 2016. Yet if you’re like me (or I assume most people) you probably have no idea who he is. And that is deeply unjust, because his name is Dr. Donald Henderson and he was responsible for eradicating smallpox. And it’s difficult to overstate just how big of a deal that is. During the 20th century alone the "red plague" was responsible for the deaths of as many as 500 million people. That’s a half BILLION people.

Because of Dr. Henderson’s efforts however, it’s been nearly 40 years since the last known naturally occurring case of smallpox. Which means that even in that short time period, Dr. Henderson probably saved over 200 million lives.

Numbers that big turn into mere statistics. So for some perspective look at the image below on the right. That's a Bangladeshi child stricken with smallpox. That used to be the reality for untold millions of people around the world. Smallpox was a ghastly disease. It killed a third of the people who contracted it. And those who survived it were often scarred, crippled and/or blinded for life.

But that is all gone now. Dr. Henderson took that horror from our world.

By any objective measure, at least in my view, that makes Dr. Donald Henderson one of the greatest men who ever lived. But men and women like Dr. Henderson don’t get parades, they don’t get TV specials, and they don't get celebrities tweeting about how amazing they were. Most often, as in the case of Dr. Henderson, they pass with barely a mention.

To be clear, I have no objection to honoring the work and lives of popular celebrities and artists. But as we move forward into our new year and our new reality, maybe it wouldn’t be the worst idea to start thinking a little more about what we value, and why.

We live in a nation that has spent decades over-valuing fame and under-valuing expertise. That did not happen by accident, and it’s a large part of why a reality-TV host is now the president while a man like Dr. Henderson died in near obscurity.

No matter how much pundits like to insist otherwise, we do not live in a “post-fact” world, and we never will. As a society, any collective decision by a large faction of us to ignore facts/truth doesn’t change the reality of those facts/truth. On the contrary, the only things that change are the consequences.

There are real facts in this world. There is real truth in this world. Men like Dr. Henderson used real facts, science and expertise to change the world for the better. Men like Trump manipulate and distract us away from real facts in order to pursue their own agendas.

Sadly, many of our fellow citizens can no longer tell the difference. Worse, many of them don’t want to. That means its up to the rest of us to speak for the truth. And we will.

Christianity EtcRe: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013(op): 11:15am On Jan 09, 2017
ATHEISM OFFERS NOTHING TO ME...

Atheism offers nothing to me
It never has, and it never will
It does not make me feel good
Or comfort me

It’s not there for me when I’m sick or ill
It can’t intervene in my times of need
It won’t protect me from hate or lies
It doesn’t care if I fail or succeed

It won’t wipe the tears from my eyes
It does nothing when I’ve got nowhere to run
It won’t give me wise words or advice
It has no teachings for me to learn

It can’t show me what’s bad or nice
It’s never inspired or incited anyone
It won’t help me fulfill all my goals
It won’t tell me to stop when I’m having fun
It’s never saved one single soul

It doesn’t take credit for everything I acheive
It won’t make me get down on bended knee
It doesn’t demand that I have to believe
It won’t torture me for eternity

It won’t teach me to hate or dispise others
It can’t tell me what’s right or wrong
It won’t tell anybody that they can’t be lovers
It’s told nobody that they don’t belong

It won’t make you think that life is worth living
It has nothing to offer me, that’s true
But the reason atheism offers me nothing
Is because I’ve never asked it to

Atheism offers nothing because it doesn’t need to
Religion promises everything because you want it to
You don’t need a religon or to have faith
You just want it because you need to feel safe

I want to feel reality
And nothing more

So atheism offers me everything
That religion has stolen before.

--Richard Coughlan
Christianity EtcRe: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013(op): 8:44pm On Jan 07, 2017
THE LEVEL OF WICKEDNESS...

I have never seen criminals as wicked as Nigerian pastors.

Even in a recession, pastors are asking people to pay all their January salary or income as first fruits.

Recession plus January hardship is nothing to a Nigerian pastor as he asks people who have rent, children's school fees and feeding to pay for to donate all their incomes to him.

Before it used to be the fraud of newly employed people donating their first salary to pastors, now it's everybody in the church being scammed of their first income.

I wonder why the EFCC will not go after these fraudsters and criminals parading as pastors.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by joseph1013: 7:54pm On Jan 07, 2017
safarigirl:
Quite a leap by any standars standards huh?
WOW...even this can match Ronaldo's. What a leap!
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by joseph1013:
Icon4s:
Firstly, the argument was not on which set will produce the highest number of players that will play for the Super Eagles.
1. The argument was sparked as a result of my mention that MOST of the FIFA U17 WC winning squad would not make it to the Super Eagles.
2. I hope you know that Wilfred Ndidi first featured for the John Obu's U20 that were part at the 2013 WYC. Obu brought Ndidi to lime light and not Manu. Also Ndidi was not part of the 18man squad to the 2013 FIFA U17.
3. Do you know Emmanuel Babayaro was once invited to the Super Eagles camp of the 90s. He never got to play any game for the Super Eagles and so till date only referred to as a former youth international.

Don't get me wrong. I dnt have anything against any player. My own is "no preference because they are Manu's boys". Let them show they have come of age first and merit the national team call up.

1. Hmmm... the argument is that U17 players generally don't make the transition to the Super Eagles. And it is true all over the world. Not a lot of them are successful. It's not even a Nigerian matter. It's all over. My point is that Manu 's U17 set may turn out to be the most successful. So it's a subtle ploy to limit Manu's boys to the U17 World Cup. Manu's boys include those we know through his screening and camping. Those that played qualifiers for the African U17, Morocco 2013 and UAE 2013.

2. It's as if you've forgotten that I created the threads for the discussion of the Manu boys. That means I know them very well. It was Manu who discovered Ndidi. Obuh called Ndidi up for the U20 WYC after CAF disqualified him from the African U17 in Morocco in April 2013. Obuh called him in June 2013. Prior to that time, Ndidi had played qualifiers for African U17 in 2012. As you can see, he's a proper Manu boy.

3. Bros, Emmanuel Babayaro is regularly referred to as a former Super Eagles goalkeeper by the Press. Lemme give you a few links:

http://saharareporterssport.com/tragedy-babayaro-brothers-lose-mum/

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/12/hiv-coalition-reaches-18000-nigerians/


SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by joseph1013: 12:19pm On Jan 06, 2017
Icon4s:
The argument was on the 18man squad that won the FIFIA U17. Ndidi was not among. Alampasu has not yet played for the Super Eagles. Musa is one leg in, one leg out. Or what do u say it is that u have a Musa Mohammed and you are still searching for a RB. If Ebuehi performs well now, na so Musa don go be that.

Yes they are still developing but let them prove their mettle first then they can be invited to fight for a place in the Super Eagles.
They are all Manu's boys. Manu brought them to the spotlight, same way we know the Siasia boys. TheGoodJoe is referring to those that are already in the Eagles. For what it's worth, if we qualify for the World Cup as it is, Alampasu will be mentioned as part of the team. Only one goalkeeper can keep at a time unlike other positions. In the future, Alampasu will be called a former Super Eagles goalkeeper. See?

I say this set can be the most successful. We already have 5 bonafide members of the team in the Eagles. And the naysayers keep forgetting that the oldest among them is still 20 years old. We still have at least 10 more years to wait. So what's this dismissive attitude?
Christianity EtcRe: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013(op): 11:27am On Jan 06, 2017
Ijabla Raymond

The Nigerian Church has changed a lot since I resigned my membership.

I hear that Nigerian Christians now donate their entire January salaries to their pastors. They call it "first fruits". Apparently, nothing moves God to bless the believer more than first fruits.

And, please don't get it twisted. Farm produce such as fruits, vegetables, corn and animals are not acceptable. They must be "monetised" i.e. sold and their monetary value given to the pastor who then spends the money on God's behalf.

It appears that the Nigerian God behaves like Nigerians. Nothing gets done in our country without bribery. Even God must be bribed with "first fruits" before He does kindness.

Nigerian Christians have most definitely developed itchy ears. And as soon as you try to point this out they will come charging at you with "touch not mine anointed and do my prophet no harm."

So, will Jesus still find faith in Nigeria when He returns?
Christianity EtcRe: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013(op): 10:36am On Jan 06, 2017
...RELIGION IS NOT FAR FROM THERE

Wherever you find adult humans in large numbers engaged in extreme foolish behavior such as handling live snakes with bare hands, drinking petrol, eating wild grass like goats, crawling and bleating like sheep, dancing and rolling in muddy water on major roads, mass suicide, kicking pregnant women in the tummy, slapping innocent girls in public, stripping people naked, burning people alive and drinking semen, religion is not far from there.

When a large crowd including professors gather to listen to something stupid like 'There will be quite a large number of weddings this year', it is religion.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by joseph1013: 11:04pm On Jan 05, 2017
komekn, look at this:

"I keep asking him: 'When are you going to come and play for Nigeria?' and he jokes: 'Whenever you come and invite me I will play!" Mikel told Goal. "I think it is something that we would have to discuss.

"If he wants to play, we would have to speak to the federation and make sure that he really wants to play for Nigeria. If he is ready, we can talk about, but in the few times we have talked about it, he hasn’t given me a very positive, decisive answer to take back to the FA.

"I need a positive answer for me to take the case forward to the FA. We will see what happens."
http://www.goal.com/en-ng/news/4078/exclusives/2016/10/08/28280932/aina-should-swap-england-for-nigeria-mikel
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by joseph1013: 11:03pm On Jan 05, 2017
komekn:
Aina another Naija boy born in small Lagos (Peckham) Southwark. It shouldn't be hard the Naija link up in Chelsea is strong.

The question is do we want him?
There was a reporting quoting Mikel telling Aina to play for us. The boy was using Mikel to play kite. The ball is in his court. I think he thinks he has a future with England. Talk to him if you have access to him.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by joseph1013: 8:32pm On Jan 05, 2017
safarigirl:
Guardiola must be a dull coach if he's more interested in ball control and distribution than keeping a ball out of a net.
This lady will not kill me. grin grin grin
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by joseph1013: 8:05pm On Jan 05, 2017
Petrobros:
You are being sentimental over this issue. I may not be a regular in making comments here but I am a regular in reading comments.

I follow arguments here a lot. I recall, one of those arguments that Icon4s stated that most of those Manu boys are not likely to make it to the Super Eagles and I know how u and TheSuperNerd took him up on it. I recall he referred to the 93 Eaglets of having produced the highest number of players that went on to play for the Flying Eagles. 5 Players I think u guys listed.

You see, I am following. wink

We are all watching together. Only two Manu U17 WC winning boys have made it to the Super Eagles-Iheanacho and Musa Mohammed. I was initially against icon4s on that issue but I am beginning to see sense in what he said then. Looks like most of the 18man squad may not progress to the senior team. I know they are still young and developing but their development thus far have nt been as most of us anticipated.

What is happening to Musa Yahaya, Awoniyi, Ezeh, Idowu, Zaharadeen, Alfa, Obasi, Okon, and the likes? I doubt most from this list I mentioned will progress to the Super Eagles.
It's too early to judge. But even now, we have four Manu's boys in the Eagles right now: Iheanacho, Musa, Ndidi (he played qualifiers), and Alampasu. The fifth person is Isaac Success. We know it is injuries that have kept him out of Eagles camp. He's been invited already.

So perhaps, this will be the most successful squad.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by joseph1013: 3:45pm On Jan 05, 2017
Kog45:
I don't think there is need for us to be arguing unnecessarily.

I want us to drive our points from Algeria match.The match in question was world cup qualifying match against top rated Africa side,prior to d match three goalkeepers were invited namely Ikeme,Ezenwa and young Alampasu but Ikeme got injured and Akpeyi was called as a replacement and manned d post.

The question is this,why Akpeyi who was not on original list was picked ahead of Alampasu and Ezenwa.A lots of things were put into considerations that only Rohr can explain.I remember his explanation on why he needed to drop home based players for Algeria match,it is simple he said league was on break.This decision gave room for Alampssu ahead of Emma Daniel but based on experience Ezenwa was picked.

Alampasu might be d best in camp due to reports from camp which nobody can authorized coz i remember d camping of Sydney 2000 dream team in Ilorin in 1999.I was privileged to watch their training live.It was straight fight between d two keeper Greg Etafia and Dele Aiyenugba on who to be picked.The reports journalists were bringing out to d loving sporting Nigerians was different from what we are seen live.

Aiyenugba was jumping,punching,diving like a cat with spectators applauding but Etafia was well composed by reading his line very well,organized his defence and u see that maturity in him.At d end Etafia was picked by coach shaibu Amodu and d sport writers were saying Dele was d best.The same scenario played out between Yakubu Aiyegbeni and Idemudia,we thought Idemudia was d best but Aiyegbeni was picked coz in front of goals he was deadlier but Idemudia bunch of skills and delight to watch.

It was this period that i realized the difference between pundits and coaches.A lot happened in d camp that w don't know and one need to hear from d coach b4 one can question his decisions.

It was very glaring prior to Algeria match that Alampasu w not manned d post irrespective of his performance in d camp and it's simple,match of such magnitude wasn't for rookie especially a sensitive area(goalkeeping)
You have made too much sense.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by joseph1013:
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Enyeama Replies Rohr – Why Do People Take Pleasure In Lies Just Because Enyeama Is Mentioned

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Former captain of the Super Eagles of Nigeria Vincent Enyeama has replied comments made by the coach of Nigeria Gernot Rohr that he refused to take nor return his calls when he tried reaching him on phone.


Speaking in Lagos during a media parley, Rohr said he reached out to the Lille shot stopper to help solve the team goalkeeper crisis, when Carl Ikeme pulled up injured before the World Cup qualifiers against Algeria but Enyeama didn’t take nor return his calls.


“When we had crisis in our hands after Carl Ikeme’s injury, I called him (Enyeama) over 10 times and he never responded nor called back”, Rohr said to Owngoalnigeria.com.


” I am happy with how Daniel Akpeyi responded to the test when he was called up as emergency cover, but he needs to buckle up because we can’t solely depend on Ikeme”.


However in a short reply to the story via his official twitter handle @Vinpee. Enyeama cleared the air by saying he didn’t get a call from the coach and wonder why he said so.


” Why do people take pleasure in lies just because Enyeama is mentioned. The coach never got me on phone, so I wonder why he said that”, he post right under the link of the story published by Owngoalnigeria.com.

* With help From @Cybereagles.

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Enyeama likes drama too much. Why will Rohr lie against him exactly? Everyone knows he's been courting him since he became the coach of the Eagles, and not once did Enyeama respond positively to the news.

We love you Vince, but it's time to retire in peace. We will continue to remember your great exploits.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by joseph1013: 8:35pm On Jan 04, 2017
TheGoodJoe:

There is no need saying nonsense and rubbish. You yourself admitted Ndidi was awful that day. So there is no need using vicious words to deviate from the truth.

Ndidi was awful as a right back that day and I have no doubt in my mind Musa Mohammed would have done better.

I was even the first to point out Ndidi's aerial contributions when I did a review of the game. So no need educating me in what I know.

I said, poor as a right back. Not Drifting to defence to support.

Rohr is hunting for a right back, not central defence support.

I agree with the bolded. Apologies. You sef dey talk some things atimes ehn...Anyway, that's still not an excuse to be rude.

Okay...so you agreed that Ndidi contributed very well in the aerial duels. Good. Would Musa have been able to do that? No. And it could have cost us.

As regarding the Right back position, Rohr said Musa was rusty due to his lack of games. Even Mikel that just finished the Olympics playing all our games was removed around the hour mark because he was exhausted owing to his lack of games at Chelsea. Yet you say you are confident Musa who had being relegated to the 4th choice at his club would have done better. Are you a dibia? Rohr was in camp observing all his players. Remember that Musa played the training games in camp, Rohr must have seen something that made him uncomfortable during the training sessions(he's never hidden the fact that he likes Musa). He was just being pragmatic.

He choose his players based on fitness and from the position of strategy and tactics for the difficult away match in tough Zambia. Yet you are telling us you are confident Musa would have done better. I ask again: You be dibia?
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by joseph1013: 8:06pm On Jan 04, 2017
TheGoodJoe:

Rohr is saying that if Musa Mohammed was playing regularly for a club, he would play for the team. Hence his club chose to drop him, we will look for someone. Meaning someone who he believes Musa Mohammed is better than.

I do not get why drop a better talent. Now we want Musa Mohammed to look for a club when we had the chance to expose him and show clubs that he is a good player.
The Super Eagles is not a rehabilitation center. You cannot ask Nigeria to play players solely because you want clubs to buy them. Is that the way top football countries behave? Why didn't Italy continue calling Balotelli so that other clubs can buy him? Rohr is even helping him by talking to people and looking for a club for him. Is that not good enough?

Even if Musa gets a club, he does not have an automatic shirt. Other players will be invited and all of them will compete in camp. This one no be anyhow team again o.

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