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wiegraf:
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Shouting 'end of story' doesn't make ylpour nonsense more logical.

How is the below propaganda

Mo was a raping, murdering, slaving warlord that married a six year old (and consummated the wedding when she was 9) whom you consider holy. The model human being

And

Stalin wasn't inspired by atheism as, and this may be beyond you, there's no such atheistic dogma. There is such a thing as communism though (or Bolsheviksm, or whatever nonsense he prescribed to), stalism which is built, conveniently for him, around his cult of personality. All these have doctrine and what not. Atheism? No (and BTW, most atheists in the west and around here would consider themselves humanists. I highly doubt that stalin would approve)

The above are lies?

Look up the words propaganda, hipocrite and lies, then please explain what I said, not what you said, qualifies as such. With such backwards thinking it's easy to see why you remain a muslim. Stuck in time literally and figuratively

Your conscience seems to be nagging you. You clearly accept the above, just like your masters do, and thus there's no sliver of a defense from you, yet you still defend it?

Is it because of 72 v.irgins? Man, selfishness of religious mind. Those could very well be your sisters..
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Kay17:
The manner in which people talk about the media, one gets the belief the media is a single full grown man!

What the hell is the media?! The media is a bunch of people shouting over each other. The people that have the access over the air waves are simple folks as you and I with their own peculiar stereotypes. It is ill advised to treat the press/media as a single voice.

Kay17:
In whose name are ISIS, Al Shabab, Boko Haram, Al Qaeda fighting for?! It is obviously on behalf of their God, hence the condemnation of Islam from many quarters. Each and every single violence ought to be condemned. Stop blaming victims for the offences taken out on them.

wiegraf:
[s] Where to even begin?

The Oga you're supposed to follow? You mean the warlord pedo?

That....er...is the problem

You mention Stalin, please show me which atheist creed he followed which all atheists must adhere to...

Waiting....

You, on the other hand, glorify some camel lover that had no problem raping, slaving, murdering his way through some desert 1400 years ago. He even took some time out marry a six year old.

This is what you hold as holy, and thank you for making my point. I repeat, this barbaric. And clearly so

Meh [/s]

malvisguy212:
you do not even understand the nature of God how will you comprehend the teaching on this thread? His post even support what you are saying, the law is good and is perfect but man are not to be saved by the law but by the grace of God in christ Jesus. The advantage of the law is to revealed to us sins and manifest the holiness of God.

frank317:
Fool!!! Of course Christianity did it, why shouldn't Islam.

And pls while killing, leave irreligious people out of it, we don't worship any God. The christians are ur rivals.

I hope u all finish each other so that we can have peace for once

"Is it me, or does islam turn otherwise decent people into barbarians?"

That said, it's hard to imagine Islam without extremism, the 'extremists' are simply following doctrine....

"It seem practicing the slow religion reaps you of common sense and morality INSTANTLY."

wiegraf:
I'd point out you're being silly, but you're already religious so that's redundant.

For one, even if that were true, do you note who........began this thread??

Kayi...

Anyhoo, I've already made my point, but you're too foolish to note. That your creed is barbaric is without doubt. Your ogas don't deny it, and you really don't want me to open that book and expose your smelly blockoss. It's tiring and been done over and over (not to mention, again, your ogas don't even deny this...). Indeed all one need do is simply ask you what the punishment for apostasy is in your religion to make our point. Simple. No too much long story. So that is not up for debate.

I, or shall I shall say the people this thread is aimed at, do not care about your silly opinions that piss all over the conspicuous and obvious.

What this thread is about is how to deal with your cancer, not determine if you have cancer. I apologize if that's not clear to your infirmed brain due to the rhetorical question in the op.

So, kudos.

That said, I do enjoy pointing out folly a wee bit too much. I'll give you that.

frank317:
Fool!!! Of course Christianity did it, why shouldn't Islam.

And pls while killing, leave irreligious people out of it, we don't worship any God. The christians are ur rivals.

I hope u all finish each other so that we can have peace for once

ifeness:
Any law that cannot be broken is a real law. If you can break it, it is fake. Jesus whose life was copied from Horus is fake. So we cannot say Jesus came to abolish a law which included killing of little children, discrimination against women, tribalism and other atrocities was real.

If Jesus and Paul both agreed with the 10 commandment, they must be two evil individuals.

Before anyone of you on this thread try to defend Fake Jesus and deluded Paul, you need to analys the rubbish Jewish laws first.

Do these laws go against Rape and Terrorism and Oppresion, including Slavery? If not middle figure to Jesus and Paul. They can shove the bible up ther asses

malvisguy212:
joyful77 if you don't understand the op enough, read this post, you will understand more.

Goshen360:
That's your own interpretation. The law is but until the seed comes. Every context of the law where Christ used it to preach and teach, it is to bury those who were under the law and by his resurrection, those who believe in him, will be married to the resurrected Christ. Ask yourself, why would Christ come to "redeem" those under the law if they where suppose to remain under the law?

Goshen360:
You can never understand that verse until you dig the connection between "abolish" and "fulfill" the law. It simply means "somethings are written IN THE LAW about him and that's what he came TO FULFILL, NOT TO ABOLISH". [size=14pt] He's not telling you to "continue" to keep the law is he had already fulfill it and it wasn't written about you [/size] and to you in the for place, it was written for you.

malvisguy212:
your post doesent sound like a muslim, is more like an atheist.

I will like you to answer the above post, what are the law in Islam?

Binb:
OP How about these verses in the Bible:

Numbers 31:17-18
Now kill all the boys (in Midian). And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.

Judges 21:10-12
So the assembly sent twelve thousand fighting men with instructions to go to Jabesh Gilead and put to the sword those living there, including the women and children. “This is what you are to do,” they said. “Kill every male and every woman who is not a virgin.” They found among the people living in Jabesh Gilead four hundred young women who had never slept with a man, and they took them to the camp at Shiloh in Canaan.

1 Samuel 6:19
And he smote the men of Bethshemesh, because they had looked into the ark of the LORD, even he smote of the people fifty thousand and threescore and ten men: [/b]and the people lamented, because the LORD had smitten many of the people with a great slaughter.

[b]Luke 19:27
"But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me."

Luke 12:49
"I have come to bring fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled!

Matthew 10:34
" Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword."

grandstar:
Jesus did come to fulfil the law and thank God he did! But was does that mean?

Imagine you were given a contract to supply 10,000 bags of rice at 10,000naira and you supply it and get paid? Have you not fulfilled it? Once fulfilled, would the contract not have ended?

That is why the scriptures says Christ is the end of the Law.

The Law was the tutor leading to Christ. Upon his death which fulfilled the Law, the Law came to an end.(Read Galatians Chapter 3)

malvisguy212:
I thought you are a muslim, from the above post, I believe you are an atheist, this thread is not for atheists. Peace

malvisguy212:
when Jesus said"I come to fullfiled the law" he was indicating, he never sinned and he perfectly keep the law.to keep the law you need his grace he bestows upon Jesus christ;

Romans6:14
For sin shall no longer be your master,
because you are not under the law, but
under grace.
For more read this thread https://www.nairaland.com/2173054/what-jesus-meant-fullfiled-law

wiegraf:
[s] I know you're allowed to lie in order to spread your cancer, but oh once more, who do you think you're deceiving? Makes me wonder why you're still here..

If you honestly believe this, truly, then it's safe to assume many 11 year olds would comprehensibly whoop you in a standard IQ test or you're woefully ignorant of your religion's tenents. More likely the former. [/s]

illiad:
[s] Lol! So that's all you could come up with, that I want to impress you? That's overly preposterous.

Meanwhile back to basics, who was your English teacher? That fellow should be shot who gave you the impression that Structure in English bear no impact on Meaning.

Can I have his address, your teacher? [/s]

malvisguy212:
Joyful77.
The post you made are the old covenant which christ has fulfilled, the old testament people live by the law of God and when you break the law of God who do not tolerate evil, you will be punished, but today we live by his grace, we are not bound by the old covenant in Roman7:6:
Romans 7:6
But now we are released from the law,
having died to that which held us
captive, so that we serve in the NEW WAY
of the Spirit and not in the OLD WAY of the
written code.

So long as a man continues under
the law as a covenant, and seeks
justification by his own obedience, he
continues the slave of sin in some form.
Nothing but the Spirit of life in Christ
Jesus, can make any sinner free from the law of sin and death. So we are not bound by the old testament law.

illiad:
Lol! Are you this sad?
Honestly it was never my intention to confound you! I only assumed you have an idea of basic English Syntax.

So tell me, which of my terms is it that irked you?

hifaif:
Guy, please. You think the Norwegian Nobel Committee just hands out awards to anybody. How do you think GEJ's acceptance speech would read without including the lives of thousands that died under his watch in spite of the Defence sector getting the lion's share of the budget for three consecutive years?

You have to be some brave selfless person like Mandela or Desmond Tutu or Mother Theresa or the little girl from Pakistan or thereabout to win the prize. They don't give it to cowards or corrupt personnel.

Olamitisoji:
His phone call, congratulating Buhari even before the the winner was announced, stopped our country from dividing, he stopped every plot of violence even before it started like that of 2011 as the OP had said, many families are still nursing their losses. So, stop being an hater and just face reality.

malvisguy212:
https://www.nairaland.com/2092548/root-caused-islamic-terrorism

usermane:
Now, i can see why you were so opposed to the original post. You obviously read the thread i recommended haphazardly and misunderstand my word. Plus, you seem to have a lot of catching up to do as far as Qur'anic study goes.

Peace, Joyful77

usermane:
I am a Muslim, i just do not happen to be a traditional Muslim.

usermane:
B. Relious rulings from other than God

As the historic Arab polytheists wouldn't understand that every religious rule had to be from God, in the name of their idols, they did keep rules which God did not fix. Of course, they attributed these rules to God, afterall they believed their idols rule on authority of God. [size=16pt] Similarly, God is not the only ruler or legislator in the ideology of mainstream Islam. [/size] Traditional clergy differentiate "Obey God" from "Obey messenger", holding that God decrees and His messenger also decrees. [size=16pt] Indirectly Muhammad is set on virtually the same level with God, where he not only expand God 's law but over rule or abrogate them. [/size]

illiad:
Lots to comprehend if only you purge yourself of pathological prejudice.

usermane:
You shouldn't discount the possibility that some of these bloggers or writers are not atheists but Muslims battling extremism and fanaticm. As a Muslim committed to combating Islamist or extreme ideas within the Muslim world, i have had fanatic Muslims accuse me of disbelief or apostasy just to discredit or write me off. This is a typical response of fanatic Muslims to critique and debunk of their ideology. This accusation is more of a defamation to push other Muslims to excommunicate you or even assassinate you. Even here on NL, i 've had this experience, but thank God i live in a country that protect my right to expression.

KingEbukasBlog:
A real jerk is being in a Religion section when you'an atheist