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LordReed:
Then it is not obvious because you needed someone to tell you a god exists.

But you believe in supernatural

LordReed:
Humans have not seen a god create anything so how can you reasonably conclude that it was a god that created anything?

what's your point now

Dtruthspeaker:
Remember we always have The Holy Spirit with us which is why you see the words "FULL of The Holy Spirit". John1:4; Genesis 2:7

The word is "FULL".

It is not because man never Had The Holy Spirit but that it was as "Battery Saver" to is, for we would be exactly as a dead phone if we had not The Holy Spirit in us.

But when Full both normal and above normal things would also occur.

What you are saying is the spirit breath into man during creation, It is different from the Holy Spirit

BassReeves:
Its actually really you who I know doesnt understand what the Bible refers to as speaking in tongues

Balaam's donkey is recorded to have spoken in tongue, meaning exclusivity is not only to 'Spirit filled' of 'Spirit baptized' Christian

Beloved you're compounding the confusion

1 Corinthians 13:1
'If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love [for others growing out of God’s love for me],
then I have become only a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal [just an annoying distraction].'

1 Corinthians 14:14
'For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my mind is unproductive
[because it does not understand what my spirit is praying].'

For your info, the 'if' in beginning part of both 1 Corinthians 13:1 and 1 Corinthians 14:14, above, are used under a 'Contrary to Fact Condition' meaning, in a lay man way explanation, you cant speak in the tongues of angel and if you were praying in, say, a Hausa language that you dont understand then you are not praying because your mind hasn't a clue of what you recited. This is exactly the case with all those deceiving themselves speaking in faked up tongues

No believers needs audible speech before speaking to God, as to God, understands what they say in silence or what is said in the heart quietly. The bible says, a time will come when the true worshippers will worship God in truth and in spirit.

Do you know the Hannah prayer? A prayer done in the spirit albeit with deep anguish, crying bitterly as she silently prayed? Do I have to go on?

1 Corinthians 14:2 contextually speaking, is saying, if its only you understands Hausa, then if in a gathering, you speak in that Hausa tongue, you are not speaking to men, but to God only, as it is only you and God who understands what you've said. No one else in the hearing distance of you speaking the Hausa tongue understands whatever you spoke as they dont speak Hausa

Fakery, faking and/or faking it, will lead to a path of an unsavoury end.

exactly

Dtruthspeaker:
Was Paul not filled with The Holy Spirit?

Do you not know that when you have The Holy Spirit EVERYTHING which comes out from you is Caused by The Holy Spirit?

Yes Paul was filled with the spirit,but those languages you mentioned were not inspired by the spirit. He learnt them

Dtruthspeaker:
Yes!

By the Bible we see Paul himself could at least speak 3 Tongues, Jewish language, Roman language and Gentile language.

But these languages where not inspired by the Holy spirit.

kiddkash:
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Hismasterpiece:
Re-read what i posted.

0. They are speaking an actual language, which can either be a natural language which is common like in Act 2:6, 8, 11. or a supernatural language which is not common 1Co 14:14.

Alright,now I get your point

Nice screen play

kiddkash:
billions is out tonight

I've not been following up with Billions. How's it

Dtruthspeaker:
Did you not read that The Holy can not stay with the Unclean as proven by King Saul, David and co when The Spirit of The Lord Departed from them?

And speaking in tongues means ability to speak other languages, which is what happened on Pentecost Day "TO SPEAK OTHER LANGUAGES (TONGUES)" and confirmation of the language "WE DO HEAR THEM SPEAK IN OUR LANGUAGES (Tongues)

Blebleble goobaba is a deceit.

so when we speak in tongues,we speak in other languages

BassReeves:
1 Corinthians 14:22
'Therefore, [unknown] tongues are [meant] for a [supernatural] sign, not to believers but to unbelievers [who might be receptive];
while prophecy [foretelling the future, speaking a new message from God to the people] is not for unbelievers but for believers.'

People throw a 1 Corinthians 14:22 serious blindside, to the fact and the truth of the situation, that the gift of tongues (i.e. gift of speaking in other languages) is intended as a sign not to those who believe (i.e. not for believers) but to unbelievers

you have a point

Hismasterpiece:
I really don't think you understand what the Bible refers to as speaking in tongues.

Going by what the Bible teaches, tongues is something exclusive only to 'Spirit filled' of 'Spirit baptized' Christians.

I think i understand where your confusion comes from.

The word 'Tongues'.

Tongues is not a common phrase that people use today. When you speak Yoruba, for instance, if a foreigner is standing alongside you does he say, ' what tongue are you speaking'? No. He says, 'what language are you speaking'.

Most Bible translations use the word 'tongues' when referring to this phenomenon, but the tlv (Tree of Life) version uses the word 'language', which is actually a very accurate translation.

Mar 16:17  These signs will accompany those who believe: in My name they will drive out demons; they will speak new languages; 

It is a language.

But going by human logic, you have to learn a language to be able to speak it right? But this language is not spoken out of understanding, but rather by inspiration.

The Bible teaches that in order for a person to speak in a new language they must be believers, have the Holy Spirit come upon them after which He bestows upon that person the ability to speak a new language.

You say you can 'speak in tongues'. But when you 'speak in tongues' do you believe you are speaking a different language that can be understood by the person you are speaking to? If your answer to that question is no, then my dear LordReed, you are not speaking in tongues, that is, according to what the Bible teaches.

When a Spirit baptized Christian speaks a new language the following things are true -
0. They are speaking an actual language, which can either be a natural language which is common like in Act 2:6, 8, 11. or a supernatural language which is not common 1Co 14:14.
1. The speaker is not speaking from his own understanding, the Hold Spirit is the one giving him the words. Act 2:4.
2. They are not speaking to their fellow believers, but to God, who understands what they are saying. 1 Corinthians 14:2.
3. They don't understand what they are saying. 1Co 14:14. But can understand if they pray to God for an interpretation. 1Co 14:13.

P.S By the way i think you misunderstood the topic of the thread. The op is simply asking whether a tongue speaker can end up in hell, and not whether tongues is supernatural or not, or whether exclusive to Christians as your response seems to indicate to be your understanding of the question of the thread.

Sabi?

In Act of the Apostles,when the disciples spoke in tongue,they actually where speaking other people's language. Read it carefully and you'll see

Goldbw122:
Yes it is very possible..
It does not qualify goingjg to heaven..
Native doctor speaks in tongue s too

Then who now inspires the tongue,if its the holy spirit does it mean the holy spirit can stay in an unclean place

Please, I have a question bothering my mind for a long time now,does speaking in tongues guarantee you a place in heaven or you can be speaking in tongues and still go to hell

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I'm not surprised,if it happens at the top level,we should even expect more at the lower level

Jones4190:
What Jonathan can't do for his people buhari is doing it.

God bless professor of language

you obviously lack knowledge

Obynolee:
You will not understand the resilience of the Northern Christians if you haven't been there,not all these business centers we have down South.

I've been there and I tell you that is were you find true Christianity

Unseen:
Rain never meet them

shoot up

I see this team going far

Chonco:
It's possible. All you need to do is send NIMC an email, or go to their twitter or instagram page and lay your complaint. The dropping of a thing is done at their headquarters. They link it up to the immigration portal.
Other NIMC offices can only help you confirm the status.

good, thanks. That means we have to go to their head office or send a mail to them. Thanks. I think this will help