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All d fones dem fine wel wel bt d truth b say moni nr dey d country 2 even buy Nokia touch

Buhari don over travel. D next trip ll b free

Abeg make dem go slip. Imagine my cousin( a boy of 5yrs) started shouting Buhari fight corruption

Nigeria is in trouble

OGHENE

D man don change address

Amberon:
I Read your Post.

Kindly desist from false doctrines. Purgatory is a lie from the pit of hell. It doesn't exist. Theres No forgiveness after death. Thats why Christ fives people a second chance by sending them back to earth in Other to amend their Way's and repent fully.

U tot Bros

missdebs:
anyone who reads it to the end deserves an award

Lolzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz u are nt serious

myopinion2011:
d same way u were urged to removed subsidy u declined, because u once nailed past administration about it, later u removed it without making noise. I'm sure, u will stil yield, because u are yet to understand d economics dat it contains.

Hw many origin do u want

dhardline:
That teaching will only lead one to hell,it is the devils tool to destroy many.

The simple reason is: Why strive to be sanctified here on earth if i can archieve that when i die in

purgatory?

Remember the bible said 'After death is judgement'. No intermediaries.

Read my post again if possible

D world is finished. We hv completed d 90mins given 2 us by God, we even took 10mins extra tim. Evil in d heart is greater dan evil in d world

orisa37:
Purgatory is a word often used by Roman Catholics to mean a state we all are before the application of extreme unction.

Can b dt nd can also b after death

Aufbauh:
Ironically those clamoring for the devaluation are still the ones that have brought the naira to this sorry state.
When we had oil boom in the recent past, those short sighted and lazy criminals rally importation instead of investing in local productions.
The likes of Ben Bruce fail to discover his common sense then to patronize Innoson and Aba made probably because there was plenty in the land to throw around to Europe and America.
The fall of the naira will definitely herald the rise of Nigeria and Nigerians. We must look inward to grow the naira.
With the high rate of unemployment in the country we must discourage foreign dependent policies and practices. Local productions means gainful employment for the locals.
People needs to be engage and taken off the streets, in this way they will see themselves as stakeholders in the Nigerian project and will buster their patriotism.

Bros Hmmmmmmmmmmm I nr toc ooooooooooooo

Na only we dey use hand spoil our name

Flexherbal:
That means, she is regretting her action.

Bros na 9ja u dey. She dey pretend. Hw u go kill ur husband finish dey com form tears . Wu her tears help

Enemy nr go fit kill me, later E repent. Lie lie. U go die b4 u plan any evil

Rip

I wanted 2 insult her, bt her beauty ll nt permit me

chidekings:
truth is whether we devalue or not,we just pray for a miracle from the middle east

So miracle don dey hapn 4 middle east?

SamJed:
Am coming

U don run

Flexherbal:
I am here to learn.

Bros did u learn anything?

iPopAlomo:
Never came across it it in the Bible but I think it was mentioned in the Book of Enoch... can't remember... Some people believe it exist... some don't... that's all in essence...


P.s
I didn't read your epistle... because you asked a question... as the title...

Let me modify it

The Catechism of the Catholic Church defines purgatory as a "purification, so as to achieve the holiness necessary to enter the joy of heaven," which is experienced by those "who die in God’s grace and friendship, but still imperfectly purified" (CCC 1030). It notes that "this final purification of the elect . . . is entirely different from the punishment of the damned" (CCC 1031).

The purification is necessary because, as Scripture teaches, nothing unclean will enter the presence of God in heaven (Rev. 21:27) and, while we may die with our mortal sins forgiven, there can still be many impurities in us, specifically venial sins and the temporal punishment due to sins already forgiven.

Two Judgments
When we die, we undergo what is called the particular, or individual, judgment. Scripture says that "it is appointed for men to die once, and after that comes judgment" (Heb. 9:27). We are judged instantly and receive our reward, for good or ill. We know at once what our final destiny will be. At the end of time, when Jesus returns, there will come the general judgment to which the Bible refers, for example, in Matthew 25:31-32: "When the Son of man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on his glorious throne. Before him will be gathered all the nations, and he will separate them one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats." In this general judgment all our sins will be publicly revealed (Luke 12:2–5). (Luke 12:2–5).
Augustine said, in The City of God, that "temporary punishments are suffered by some in this life only, by others after death, by others both now and then; but all of them before that last and strictest judgment" (21:13). It is between the particular and general judgments, then, that the soul is purified of the remaining consequences of sin: "I tell you, you will never get out till you have paid the very last copper" (Luke 12:59).

Monica, mother of Augustine, who asked her son, in the fourth century, to remember her soul in his Masses. This would make no sense if she thought her soul would not benefit from prayers, as would be the case if she were in hell or in the full glory of heaven.
Nor does ascribing the doctrine to Gregory explain the graffiti in the catacombs, where Christians during the persecutions of the first three centuries recorded prayers for the dead. Indeed, some of the earliest Christian writings outside the New Testament, like the Acts of Paul and Thecla and the Martyrdom of Perpetua and Felicity (both written during the second century), refer to the Christian practice of praying for the dead. Such prayers would have been offered only if Christians believed in purgatory, even if they did not use that name for it. (See Catholic Answers’ Fathers Know Best tract The Existence of Purgatory for quotations from these and other early Christian sources.)

Why No Protests?Whenever a date is set for the "invention" of purgatory, you can point to historical evidence to show the doctrine was in existence before that date. Besides, if at some point the doctrine was pulled out of a clerical hat, why does ecclesiastical history record no protest against it?

A study of the history of doctrines indicates that Christians in the first centuries were up in arms (sometimes quite literally) if anyone suggested the least change in beliefs. They were extremely conservative people who tested a doctrine’s truth by asking, Was this believed by our ancestors? Was it handed on from the apostles? Surely belief in purgatory would be considered a great change, if it had not been believed from the first—so where are the records of protests?

They don’t exist. There is no hint at all, in the oldest writings available to us (or in later ones, for that matter), that "true believers" in the immediate post-apostolic years spoke of purgatory as a novel doctrine. They must have understood that the oral teaching of the oral teaching of the apostles, what Catholics call tradition, and the Bible not only failed to contradict the doctrine, but, in fact, confirmed it.
It is no wonder, then, that those who deny the existence of purgatory tend to touch upon only briefly the history of the belief. They prefer to claim that the Bible speaks only of heaven and hell. Wrong. It speaks plainly of a third condition, commonly called the limbo of the Fathers, where the just who had died before the redemption were waiting for heaven to bethe redemption were waiting for heaven to be opened to them. After his death and before his resurrection, Christ visited those experiencing the limbo of the Fathers and preached to them the good news that heaven would now be opened to them (1 Pet. 3:19). These people thus were not in heaven, but neither were they experiencing the torments of hell.
Some have speculated that the limbo of the Fathers is the same as purgatory. This may or may not be the case. However, even if the limbo of the Fathers is not purgatory, its existence shows that a temporary, intermediate state is not contrary to Scripture. Look at it this way. If the limbo of the Fathers was purgatory, then this one verse directly teaches the existence of purgatory. If the limbo of the Fathers was a different temporary state, then the Bible at least says such a state can exist. It proves there can be more than just heaven and hell.

"Purgatory Not in Scripture"
Some Fundamentalists also charge, as though it actually proved something, "The word purgatory is nowhere found in Scripture." This is true, and yet it does not disprove the existence of purgatory or the fact that belief in it has always been part of Church teaching. The words Trinity and Incarnation aren’t in Scripture either, yet those doctrines are clearly taught in it. Likewise, Scripture teaches that purgatory exists, even if it doesn’t use that word and even if 1 Peter 3:19 refers to a place other than purgatory.
Christ refers to the sinner who "will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come" (Matt. 12:32), suggesting that one can come" (Matt. 12:32), suggesting that one can be freed after death of the consequences of one’s sins. Similarly, Paul tells us that, when we are judged, each man’s work will be tried. And what happens if a righteous man’s work fails the test? "He will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire" (1 Cor 3:15). Now this loss, this penalty, can’t refer to consignment to hell, since no one is saved there; and heaven can’t be meant, since there is no suffering ("fire" there. The Catholic doctrine of purgatory alone explains this passage. Then, of course, there is the Bible’s approval of prayers for the dead: "In doing this he acted in a very excellent and noble way, inasmuch as he had the resurrection of the dead in view; for if he were not expecting the dead to rise again, it would have been useless and foolish to pray for them in death. But if he did this with a view to the splendid reward that awaits those who had gone to rest in godliness, it was a holy and pious thought. Thus he made atonement for the dead that they might be freed from this sin" (2 Macc. 12:43–45). Prayers are not needed by those in heaven, and no one can help those in hell. That means some people must be in a third condition, at least temporarily. This verse so clearly illustrates the existence of purgatory that, at the time of the Reformation, Protestants had to cut the books of the Maccabees out of their Bibles in order to avoid accepting the doctrine.

Prayers for the dead and the consequent doctrine of purgatory have been part of the true religion since before the time of Christ. Not only can we show it was practiced by the Jews of the time of the Maccabees, but it has even been retained by Orthodox Jews today, who recite a prayer known as the Mourner’s Kaddish for eleven months after the death of a loved one so that the loved one may be purified. It was not the Catholic Church that added the doctrine of purgatory. Rather, any change in the original teaching has taken place in the Protestant churches, which rejected a doctrine that had always been believed by Jews and Christians.

Why Go To Purgatory?Why would anyone go to purgatory? To be cleansed, for "nothing unclean shall enter [heaven]" (Rev. 21:27). Anyone who has not been completely freed of sin and its effects is, to some extent, "unclean." Through repentance he may have gained the grace needed to be worthy of heaven, which is to say, he has been forgiven and his soul is spiritually alive. But that’s not sufficient for gaining entrance into heaven. He needs to be cleansed completely.

Fundamentalists claim, as an article in Jimmy Swaggart’s magazine, The Evangelist, put it, that "Scripture clearly reveals that all the demands of divine justice on the sinner have been completely fulfilled in Jesus Christ. It also reveals that Christ has totally redeemed, or purchased back, that which was lost. The advocates of a purgatory (and the necessity of prayer for the dead) say, in effect, that the redemption of Christ was incomplete. . . . It has all been done for us by Jesus Christ, there is nothing to be added or done by man."

It is entirely correct to say that Christ accomplished all of our salvation for us on the cross. But that does not settle the question of how this redemption is applied to us. Scripture reveals that it is applied to us over the course of time through, among other things, the process of sanctification through which the Christian is made holy. Sanctification involves suffering (Rom. 5:3–5), and purgatory is the final stage of sanctification that some of us need to undergo before we enter heaven. Purgatory is the final phase of Christ’s applying to us the purifying redemption that he accomplished for us by his death on the cross.

No Contradiction
The Fundamentalist resistance to the biblical doctrine of purgatory presumes there is a contradiction between Christ’s redeeming us on the cross and the process by which we are sanctified. There isn’t. And a Fundamentalist cannot say that suffering in the final stage of sanctification conflicts with the sufficiency of Christ’s atonement without saying that suffering in the early stages of sanctification suffering in the early stages of sanctification also presents a similar conflict. The Fundamentalist has it backward: Our suffering in sanctification does not take away from the cross. Rather, the cross produces our sanctification, which results in our suffering, because "[f]or the moment all discipline seems painful rather than pleasant; later it yields the peaceful fruit of righteousness" (Heb. 12:11).

Nothing Unclean
Purgatory makes sense because there is a requirement that a soul not just be declared tobe clean, but actually be clean, before a man may enter into eternal life. After all, if a guilty soul is merely "covered," if its sinful state still exists but is officially ignored, then it is still a guilty soul. It is still unclean.
Catholic theology takes seriously the notion that "nothing unclean shall enter heaven." From this it is inferred that a less than cleansed soul, even if "covered," remains a dirty soul and isn’t fit for heaven. It needs to be cleansed or "purged" of its remaining imperfections. The cleansing occurs in purgatory. Indeed, the necessity of the purging is taught in other passages of Scripture, such as 2 Thessalonians 2:13, which declares that God chose us "to be saved through sanctification by the Spirit." Sanctification is thus not an option, something that may or may not happen before one gets into heaven. It is an absolute requirement, as Hebrews 12:14 states that we must strive "for the holiness without which no one will see the Lord.

http://www.catholic.com/tracts/purgatory

atuanso:
WITH CATHOLICS WE DONT KNOW WHERE TO START. FIRST AND FORMOST, NO MAN HONOURS ANOTHER EXCEPT GOD. WHATEVER WE DO HERE ON EARTH WE ARE SUBJECT TO EVALUATION BY THE ALMIGHT. ALL MORTALS ALIKE. AND THE LAST TIME I CHECKED MARY WAS A MORTAL. MARY GAVE BIRTH TO THE PHYSICAL SAVIOUR. THE ONE THAT HAD A FORM. WHEREAS THE STIRIT CHRIST HAS ALWAYS EXISTED EVEN BEFORE ABRAHAM LET ALONE MARY. HAVING NEITHER BEGINNING NOR END OF DAYS. EVEN CHRIST WAS NOT HONOURED DURING HIS TIME ON EARTH. BUT AFTER. PHILIPEANS TOLD AS WHY AND HOW THESE CAME TO BE..PHIL 1-10. IF THE MASSSIAH WAS NOT HOUNOURED BUT UNTIL AFTER HIS WORK, WHO ARE WE THEN AS MORTAL TO DECIDE WHO TO HONOURE OR PRAY THROUGH.

IF CHRIST WANTED US TO PRAY THROUGHT HIS MOTHER AFTER HE WAS GONE AM SURE HE WOULD HAVE LEFT IN DOWN AS A NOTE OF WORTH... LIKE DO THIS IN REMEBRANCE OF ME.

THERE ARE SEVERAL MANY THINGS THE BIBLE LEFT FOR US TO DO THAT WE FAIL TO DO. BUT RATHER ITS THE FEW ONCE WHICH CLEARLY ARE NOT MENTIONED [LIKE CHRISTMAS FOR INTANCE] THAT WE OFTEN ENGAGE OURSELVES IN WITH OUR HUMAN DISCRETION. THERE IS ONLY ONE MEDIATOR BETWEEN GOD AND MAN. AND I THINK WE KNOW WHO THAT IS WHY MAKE IT TWO.

Xam commandment made u 2 know dis " 4th commandment honour thy Fr nd Mother. Christ showed us dt we need Mary dt was y He gave Mary 2 d disciple on d cross saying" Mother behold thy Son, Son behold thy Mother. Jesus knew d importants of having her as a mother

Amyleb:
You don't get it at all. When we pray for our loved ones, it is done in the name of Jesus Christ, we make the prayer to the father through the Son ( Jesus, the WAY), with the holy spirit giving us the right words to say.

Do u remember d prayers of saint in Rev?

Lytech:
Which corruption is this old fool fighting...
He is only diverting our attention over the issue of fighting corruption...
Tell this man to work for the masses,tell him to use his precious time to do what will benefit the masses...
No employment,no power supply,daily decrease in the value of our currency..,
someone close to this man should wake him up from his slumber

Bros y Na, na so u hate me? Y u go dey send me dt mgs? U want make Dr Buhari use Efcc 4low me?

Fight Corruption is nw my ringing tone
lalasticlala, dominique, Mynd44 plz u knw wat 2 do

ASABA—Senator Chris Anyanwu has charged President Muhammadu Buhari to be fair in his fight against corruption.
President Muhammadu Buhari
Anyanwu, the chairperson of Spectrum Broadcast Nigeria Limited, owners of Hot FM chain of radio stations, stated this in a chat with newsmen shortly before the commissioning of Hot FM 96.5 station in Asaba.
She said: “I think the idea of anti-corruption is very good. I think we got a little bit too extreme in our carelessness, in our practices, so there is need to apply breaks on what we do in the system.”
On the radio station, Anyanwu said that besides Asaba being an expanding city with a lot of potentials and a major player in the Niger Delta and Nigerian economic development, the management of Hot FM was contributing to the development goals of Delta State Government by providing employment to its indigenes.
She said that the station would give its audience clear, concise and credible news as well as best entertainment, informative, interactive and engaging programmes.
Governor Ifeanyi Okowa who spoke while commissioning the station, said: “Radio remains the most effective medium of mass communication in societies where sustainable development is paramount.”
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/02/be-fair-in-the-fight-against-corruption-anyanwu-tells-buhari/

D same corruption is affecting Man utd. if dem don sack dt Van-gal make dem tel me, because I nr dey watch man u match again

Dear Lord Jesus, as we enter this Solemn and
Holy Season, we pray that you will send your
Holy Spirit upon us that we might prepare
ourselves for this coming 40 days of lent. We do
seek to humble ourselves so that we might
understand the magnificence of your love for us,
as you humbled yourself and gave your life on
the cross so that we might receive the gift of
Eternal Glory with you. Amen
Lord help us to see this Season of Lent as a time
of Spiritual Renewal and motivate us to reach a
new level of experiencing your grace so that we
come to understand the full meaning of your
Passion and Death on the Cross.
Grant us Lord the grace also to motify our flesh
and do that which pleases you during this period
and all the days of our lives through Christ our
Lord Amen
Wish You All A Blessed Ash Wednesday and
Lenten Season

Dear Lord Jesus, as we enter this Solemn and
Holy Season, we pray that you will send your
Holy Spirit upon us that we might prepare
ourselves for this coming 40 days of lent. We do
seek to humble ourselves so that we might
understand the magnificence of your love for us,
as you humbled yourself and gave your life on
the cross so that we might receive the gift of
Eternal Glory with you. Amen
Lord help us to see this Season of Lent as a time
of Spiritual Renewal and motivate us to reach a
new level of experiencing your grace so that we
come to understand the full meaning of your
Passion and Death on the Cross.
Grant us Lord the grace also to motify our flesh
and do that which pleases you during this period
and all the days of our lives through Christ our
Lord Amen
Wish You All A Blessed Ash Wednesday and
Lenten Season