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Wuoche:
Uninspiring.

I know right

A kenyan cannot aspire to better living

That is why you have a low quality of life

rvp2018:
Precisely why I call most of West Africa cities slumpolis - integrated slums - without any zoning or building code enforced.

Slum occupy 2% of Nairobi landmass (5% of the built up area). The slums are all ILLEGALLY built on road reserves, power line/sewage line reserves, forest, and rivers; they will be all demolished eventually.

For example recently - one such slum - that was sitting on sewage reserve land - was demolished

After slums - you get to Eastland kinda of low quality high rise apartments. Those ones are mostly approved - although a few were built without approval and do get demolished.

In Kenya you cannot just build without APPROVAL.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-jxjxehtyQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tqYkH28p9A

here you go conjuring figures out of your as*

Its factual that slums host 80% of the residents of Nairobi.

It's also factual that they occupy 80% of the built up area.

rvp2018:
Ghana future - 2100 - Accra might look like this - if they really work hard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jT2fOs--TKQ

Kenya might catch up to Ghana in 2200

The future kenya is looking for is already in Ghana.

Nairobi will look as good and developed as Accra in that year.

When Nairobi gets there, there wont be yellow gallons roaming your streets in wheelbarrow.

The last time I saw wheelbarrow with water for sale, I was in Liberia.

rvp2018:
Nairobi - accra - cannot get there but just dreaming and faking data

yet your country is way behind Ghana in all things developmental.

Keep crying while you struggle to catch up to Accra.

Shma2020:
You're talking out of pain, ignorance and stupidity.
The debate was about your MAIN CBD, but it seems the heat was just too high for you to start peddling kibera photos.

Without sinking so deep into babyish vibe, I want to give you the wide picture of what you so ignorant with.

Miss trudy and African traveler will take you through kibera and explain the narrative for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-a-6UzsUcag
I know when you see Nairobi, skyline comes to mind then forget about low hidden posh homes in karen, kileleshwa, lavington, kitisuru, muthaiga, lang'ata etc.

Zombies like you will not rant why you don't see those houses when we post Nairobi skylines but rush to sing why the hidden kibera does not show on our pics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3NIgWNh1Vs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXRvgio_X4M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-2t6FqELxs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8mr97ZGMJg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS0v8an6uZY
Nairobi upperhill and westlands CBD alone is so massive and her peers are not in West.
Zoning laws is what makes Nairobi stands up against many cities.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5Nud_-bxrc ~Nairobi metro

Too bad, the best of Nairobi can only compare to The average neighbourhoods of Takoradi.

Just a drive through ordinary Takoradi residential areas and you are already trembling to post the best of Nairobi because you know, only that will be able to compare.


Next tears

You forgot to add muthiaga, I heard it's the best neighbourhood from Rvp.
Only for me to check it out and the roads are terrible and the neighbourhood hideous

popizaino:
The bolded shows you don't even understand what you are saying and you just run your mouth for the sake of it.

Let's even agree with your claim Nairobi is 80% slum and the remaining 20% is a developed part,at least the 80% is clearly separated from the developed part,government can decide to demolish the slum and fill it up with world class housing and every thing becomes ok,but how do ghanaian government begin to tackle that of Accra which according to you might have 20% slum and 80% developed part when the 20% slum is well intergrated in the rest of the city?

Even the richest and most developed countries have decided to integrate their poor people into well functioning neighbourhoods because studies have shown that, doing so reduces crime and provides better quality of living for poor people.

Here you are celebrating the segregation of poor people into crime infested slum of low lives.

How low will you sink ?

popizaino:
This is way better than Accra,case in point slums not intergrated in the city, it is separate.

segregated to form 80% of Nairobi


That's real destitute living .

At least, in Accra, poor people live in better housing with access to quality infrastructure.


That gives them a better quality of Life that even the rich in kenya cant have.

Sensible countries have decided to move their poor people into their city proper, so they can have a better quality of life.

But as dumb as you are, you prefer segregation.

popizaino:
Tbh,it Looks more decent than most places in Accra or should we start posting videos of Accra?

Only you will say that

It doesnt even look half as decent as the oldest residential areas of Takoradi which is 100 years old, Accra is way above that league of low quality living in Nairobi.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLzb8SNGaNs

Takoradi new residential area which developed 40 to 50 years ago


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9N6UGU-iMI&t=141s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmgmfDwPenM&t=336s

popizaino:
This is way better than Accra,case in point slums not intergrated in the city, it is separate.

you mess up oo

How is the slum seperated when it makes up 80% of the country?


Accra hardly have slums

vankelvin:
I know of some roads(many road constructions) that have stalled, infact right after the elections the contractors left with all their machines.

usually happens during elections

Shma2020:
Unfortunately that is your CBD.

If it's way better than what you're claiming then I have no reason but to rest my case.

Seems you hobbits view things from your an*us

Byee tako-radi CBD.

when you remove your eyes from your feet as a zombie

you will know that this place is way better than 90% of nairobi



But as usual, youve not taken your medicine yet.

Because kenya is so poor like Zimbabwe, this is the quality of living.


How 80% of of nairobi looks like

mud huts, zinc huts and brown roofs everywhere

Shma2020:
If you didn't know the existing bridge, here it is. Simple but upgradable.

This is our 2nd biggest city.

see where youve gone to with a simple question from me.


Is tht not the likoni nonsense you guys have been making so much noise about?

Shma2020:
That bridge is 1b. A cost that can do make up to your village Accra to atleast look like a town.
That aside.
apart from the existing nyali bridge, Kenya is already constructing another modern bridge at Dongo Kundu. I know your coastal region can only view and implement that in fantasy Tv.

In June, another contemporary Bridge in our costal region is set to break ground.

That is where our cement consumption goes.

you are just funny

anyway, rant on, in your usual long evasive essays.


The cost of projects that we put up, your country cant afford them to make your village developed.

Shma2020:
...

Here it is .
A cost of 1b Strictly for pedestrians.

1b what ?

a 17 million dollars tampon to be used as a pedestrian walk way and you guys have been making so much noise .

whats wrong with you people?

gallivant:
I dont have the authority to ban anyone Zombie.

you snitched by reporting because your little feelings got hurt

zombie

anyway, go take your drugs, a day of not taking it can make you miserable

Just30 just got banned by the zombie gallivant


good bro and you?

vankelvin:
I can see both Just30 and Just40

How are you?

gallivant:
Seems like its just kazibure and a a$$licking hobbit making plenty of noise.

Why did you get me banned again?

anyway, have you taken your 5-hydroxytry$$$$$ptamine (Sero%%%tonin) today?

i will hate to deal with a zombie

rvp20182:
Nairobi has a house for all income types - starting with 10 dollars in slum to 7,000 dollars in upper class. We don't have west africa kind of shortage.
When Ghanians and Nigerian come to Nairobi - they all live in Eastland - and 10 in a room - that rent for 100 dollars a month.
And they are so stupid they pay rent per annum.

Accra has a long way to go - until you get to Kenya - where everywhere there is a TO LET sign - and you can take walk in a few minutes - pay one month deposit - and come out - for whatever you can afford.

Nairobi has segregated or zones houses depending on income and types of finishing/housing.

If you want slum - it's there. Next is likes of Pipeline that rent for 30 dollars - 10 floor high rises of one room.

You go to Westlands - there are apartments that rent for 3,000 dollars a month.

If you land in JKIA - you can rent out a house the same day - in any part of Kenya.

The reason is obvious - we economize - we build highrises - vertical place - one plot in Accra can house you - one plot in Nairobi can house 100 people if not more.

explain what you mean by you dont have Ghanaian and Nigerian kind of shortage ?
Does kenya hot have a huge housing shortage?



In and attempt to bridge that gap is the reason why 60% of the population of Nairobi lives in a slum like Eastland and it surrounding associated slums.


Kenya has a long way to go in order to catch up to Ghana in the Quality of Life index, where majority of people can afford to buy or build and life in their own homes which are mostly better than upper class houses in Runda and the likes .

In Accra, one plot is 1/4th an Acre. That is quite big a land size, hence most houses going for sale sits on 1/8th an acre of land
which is enough to build a decent 4 bedroom mansion. The kind that Runda cant afford to build.

At least if Kenya was putting that 100 people on the same plot as a single Ghanaian will use, the housing should be as good as you will find in Ghana.

Stop housing middle class kenyans in slums

Shma2020:
BIG-BABY's tantrums.

Cry mea river


fact is

none of your communities are as Good as ordinary Ghanaian communities where majority of people live in good quality homes.

That is the reason why Ghana is far above Kenya in the Quality Of Life index

rvp20182:
Ghana has about 7-8M household. Only 3-4M are metered or customers of your discos. That basically mean your policy think tanks are smoking whatever you're also smoking.

These things are easy - your population divided by household size - give your total houses or homes - and each ideally should have a meter - connected to the grid. That is universal access.

Obviously there are countries that uses all sort of methodology to define access. India for example - anybody 500m from electric grid has access. Maybe Ghana is using such dodgy methodology.

For you to hit 85% universal access - nearly every hut or slum or cave in Ghana - including deep rural - should be connected to the grid.

And of course it isn't. By the time you're hitting 95% (universal access) it would be nearly impossible to find anybody without any grid.

Ghana has 30 million population and an average household size of 5.1
Do the math and see if you wont get 5.8 MILLION households?

Ghana metered customers is 4.1MILLION.
Take 4.1 million out of 5.8 million and you will have 1.7 million, Thats the total housing deficit of Ghana.



Like everyone here knows, your maths is poor.

Ghana currently has 95% of all it communities connected to the national grid.


Kenya needs to run to be able to catch up.
The average Ghanaian consumes almost 4 times more KWH of electricity than a kenyan

rvp20182:
He calls any rubbish Mansion and Posh.

Which of the nonsense in Runda that you are so happy to see can compare to any of what i posted?




You are happy buying shitty Runda buildings for millions

Shma2020:
why are you posting ugly dusty houses bruh .

A number of these houses are under construction in Nairobi surburbs .

im posting a community under serious housing construction with excavation works happening everywhere, what do you expect?




Good you said a number


Here it is countless and everywhere

Shma2020:
houses under construction in Kenya don't look this shaggish.

Again this is a mere estate

We are talking about an entire community with 300,000 people and above looking like this and all you have is just 10 houses or so to show?

funny slum dweller

If you mean a city should look like Eastland, then i will ask where you got your education


No human being should be living in slums like Eastland and the rest.


A kenyan will be lucky to live in any community in Accra with their own house, instead of an ugly flat.

popizaino:
My choice of were i choose to live shouldn't determine how a city should look .

An ideal city should look like Nairobi were slums are well segregated from the rest of the city and not look Accra were slums is well intergrated in the whole city .


Pls don't bother to quote me if my point flew pass your head .

Shma2020:
you're embarrassing yourself Mr dwarf.

Kenya can never degrade to this kind of slumbolish.

Kenya has different tastes of houses.

Kenya is already a degaded slum like Eastland


and can never afford to put up decent homes like you see in the pics I posted from an ordinary new Ghanaian neighbourhood.

Majority of Kenyans do not own their own homes hence they result to slumpolish like Eastland ugly apartments with no lifts

rvp20182:
With only 4m metered connections..that is big lie you gov is spewing. South Africa has 17m..you should be about half that..while Kenya need to hit 12m household all connected.

No one is lying kiddo

Thats is verifiable data by private energy policy think tanks.

95% of all Ghanaian communities and the households in them have been connected to the grid.


Weep not

some day, your country will get there

gallivant:
It looks better than that dusty hell hole you posted. How about planting some trees?

www.nairaland.com/attachments/13050631_20210126132332_jpegd683490a2eaffc06b133f59efbdb014c

how do you plant trees in an excavation site ?





Just like how nowhere in Kenya could match up to East Legon, That's the same way nowhere in Kenya will be as good as weija, Bortianor and Broadcasting. As soon as we finish redoing the streets in this neighbourhood.

Mansions just springing up everywhere

The industrial area has already taken shape with 10 manufacturer's already set up

rvp20182:
Kenya inches close to universal access with budget proposal for 2021.2021
- 2.4m new connections - taking it to 9.6M metered connection (Ghana has 3-4m) - 2.5m household is another 10million kenyans to be connected.
- Power generated to double to nearly 7,000mw


A further 3,003 public facilities that include schools, trading centres, health centres, water points and administrative offices have also been marked for connection.

The State will construct 3,082.9 km of transmission lines, 37 transmissions and 45 distribution substations that will boost stability of the power distribution.

Over 7.2 million households are already connected to the subsided power that is funded by the World Bank, the African Development Bank (AfDB) and the Kenyan government.
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/bd/economy/state-to-connect-2-4m-more-households--3268702

Ghana is Already at 95% Access as we missed universal access by 6% in 2020

keep dreaming of catching up to us.

The video shows it all

#A shanty area


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sDvFOmus8o&t=1020s

gallivant:
Eastlands looks like heaven compared to that...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ERqD8TiWAAUXPSQ.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ERqD8TIWkAAa_4Y.jpg