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Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 6:34pm On Apr 21, 2021
But I thought the Chinese were colonizing Kenya, who's little China now grin master's
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 6:32pm On Apr 21, 2021
https://twitter.com/Truthfully83/status/1293474007711232001?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1293474007711232001%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theafricareport.com%2F39952%2Fnigeria-spotlight-on-abuse-of-local-workers-after-public-allegations%2F

The resulting Twitter thread was damning, exposing that “every Nigerian in that company is mandated to call their Chinese employers MASTER or MISTRESS and failure to do that attracts a direct sack,” and that “male Nigerian workers are physically assaulted, while their female counterparts are sexually assaulted. … Chinese MASTERS will boast of killing you and getting away with it.”
https://www.theafricareport.com/39952/nigeria-spotlight-on-abuse-of-local-workers-after-public-allegations/
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 7:07am On Mar 31, 2021
West Africa, Ghana what is happening here?

https://www.theafricareport.com/75469/how-vincent-bollore-won-ghanas-tema-port-contract/?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=post_articles_twitter_25_03_2021&utm_medium=social

A new leaked report obtained by Africa Confidential shows how French ports and media billionaire gained control of Ghana's busiest port, at the expense of the public purse.

Bolloré runs 18 ports in West Africa The most recent to open is Tema, a high-tech facility some 25km from the capital Accra, which serves the hinterland of Burkina Faso and Mali. It is operated in a 70% joint-owned venture between the Government of Ghana and Meridian Port Services (MPS) (itself a joint venture between Bolloré Transport and Logistics and APM Terminals)
Yikes 19 west African ports under French management, no wonder you guys are in a never ending cycle of poverty, also what's with the projection of kEnYas pOrT wILl Be ovErtaKeN by the cHinESe when you're letting the French get away with this?
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 11:01am On Mar 03, 2021


How rich is Africa really?

Villagers & miner's in DRC are just picking up gold from a mountain lol

Read an article about natural gas in Nigeria just being flared... Is it still a thing?
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 2:19pm On Feb 11, 2021
Shaytun:
What are you talking about.

How can you be equating a WEF report with Industrial output, a lot of metrics go into measuring global competitiveness, things like government policies, institutions, enabling environment, ease of doing business.

Does Singapore have a higher industrial output than both the united states and china because it ranked first on the Global competitiveness Report??
Who's arguing on total industrial output? I only made a valid reason on why focus shouldn't be on the value chain alone. Those metrics are actually crucial to manufacturing...

Still my man, Wuoche has submitted a more authoritative source, if the value added on net output is your main worry.

Wuoche:
Ghana's manufacturing industry of $3b Vs Kenya's manufacturing industry of $6b.

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NV.IND.MANF.KD?locations=GH-KE
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 1:46pm On Feb 11, 2021
jln115:
I don't care wink

- It's $1990 not year 1990 grin grin
grin my eyes are tripping, still it isn't conclusive.
Designation of WTO Members as
Least-Developed Countries
As explained above, the distinction
between developing and least-
developed countries no longer matters
for purposes of the de minimis
threshold: both are eligible for the same
2 percent rate. Nonetheless, for clarity
and consistent with section 771(36) of
the Act, this notice separately identifies
developing and least-developed
countries. The list of WTO Members
that are least-developed countries is
derived from Annex VII to the SCM
Agreement, which describes least-
developed countries as those designated
by the United Nations (Annex VII(a))
and named in Annex VII(b)), provided
the per capita GNP has not reached
$1,000 per annum. A number of WTO
Members are included on the United
Nations list of least-developed
countries,1 and several more are
included under Annex VII(b) based
upon their GNI per capita at constant
1990 dollars: Coˆte d’Ivoire, Ghana,
Honduras, Kenya, Nicaragua, Nigeria,
Pakistan, Senegal, and Zimbabwe.2
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou:
jln115:
_ "has no effect on how that Member may be
classified with respect to any other law" As I've stated before, countries not part of the WTO were not listed

- "Kenya, Nigeria, Ghana, the other named countries... are listed under special request according to the 1990 data. So no these countries aren't affirmatively reported as being LDC according to the 2020 report." Do you know why they are listed at special request? grin

- "Hong Kong & South Korea are developing countries while Brazil, India... Are considered developed." Hong Kong & S Korea were not on the list as developing countries...........and Brazil, India and China have been newly classified as developed as of 2020.

-
I've not refused to acknowledge your own admission.

Why don't you tell us why they're listed with 1990 data... It's actually beneficial to be grouped in either of the two terms than to be categorized under developed status, since the countries listed will have better IMPORT-EXPORT deals...

My bad they were ineligible for developing country treatment
The U.S. Trade Representative also
considered whether countries account
for a significant share of world trade
and, thus, should be treated as ineligible
for the 2 percent de minimis standard.
In the 1998 rule, the U.S. Trade
Representative considered a share of
world trade of 2 percent or more to be
‘‘significant’’ because of the
commitment in the Statement of
Administration Action (SAA), approved
by the Congress along with the URAA,
that Hong Kong, Korea, and Singapore
would be ineligible for developing
country treatment
and each of these
countries accounted for a share of world
trade in excess of 2 percent. The U.S.
Trade Representative now considers 0.5
percent to be a more appropriate
indicator of a ‘‘significant’’ share of
world trade. According to the most
recent available data from 2018
Still its not a conclusive report on the status of all the members of the WTO.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 12:59pm On Feb 11, 2021
IGpro1:
your craz y dude.. Nigeria has been in the manufacturing business before Kenya ever became independent.

Should we post factories and the products manufactured in them?

Kenya is a baby in manufacturing.

Y'all think you can just post what you like, it's terrible.
Like Singapore doing more manufacturing than China, you're sick.
If you were only considering more manufacturing, then it's still not the best kit for that analysis since it factors only money in that sector. The value chain in manufacturing is quite distinct from country to country...
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 11:18am On Feb 11, 2021
jln115:
Google USTR LDC and developing country lists wink
The Special standards

You're not using the list as it was intended to be used.

The effect of these designations is
limited to Title VII of the Act.
Specifically, section 771(36)(E) of the
Act provides that the fact that a WTO
Member is designated in the list as
developing or least-developed has no effect on how that Member may be
classified with respect
to any other law
The list is made with regards to the UN methodology. But has some special biases.

Data Sources
In making the designations, the U.S.
Trade Representative relied on per
capita gross national income (GNI) data
from the World Bank and trade data
from the Trade Data Monitor
which
contains official data from national
statistical bureaus, customs authorities,
central banks, and other government
agencies.
3. Designation of WTO Members as
Least-Developed Countries
As explained above, the distinction
between developing and least-
developed countries no longer matters
for purposes of the de minimis
threshold: both are eligible for the same
2 percent rate. Nonetheless, for clarity
and consistent with section 771(36) of
the Act, this notice separately identifies
developing and least-developed
countries. The list of WTO Members
that are least-developed countries is
derived from Annex VII to the SCM
Agreement, which describes least-
developed countries as those designated
by the United Nations
(Annex VII(a))
and named in Annex VII(b)), provided
the per capita GNP has not reached
$1,000 per annum
A number of WTO
Members are included on the United
Nations list of least-developed
countries,1 and several more are
included under Annex VII(b) based
upon their GNI per capita at constant
1990 dollars: Coˆte d’Ivoire, Ghana,
Honduras, Kenya, Nicaragua, Nigeria,
Pakistan, Senegal, and Zimbabwe
.2
Kenya, Nigeria, Ghana, the other named countries... are listed under special request according to the 1990 data. So no these countries aren't affirmatively reported as being LDC according to the 2020 report.

To be considered a developed country, one must have GNI of over $12,375 yet according to the special standards, share of world trade might influence certain countries to be treated as being developed or not, Hong Kong & South Korea are developing countries while Brazil, India... Are considered developed.

For purposes of U.S. CVD law, the
U.S. Trade Representative therefore
considers countries with a share of 0.5
percent or more of world trade to be
developed countries. Thus, Brazil,
India, Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand,
and Viet Nam are ineligible for the 2
percent de minimis standard,
notwithstanding that, based on the most
recent World Bank data, each country
has a per capita GNI below $12,375
.

Infact the only reason South Africa isn't eligible to be categories under the two terms, is due to it being a member of G20. Not infrastructure, economy or any more meaningful measures.

The U.S. Trade Representative also
took into account G20 membership. The
G20 was established in September 1999,
and so was not considered in the 1998
rule. The G20 is a preeminent forum for
international economic cooperation,
which brings together major economies
and representatives of large
international institutions such as the
World Bank and International Monetary
Fund. Given the global economic
significance of the G20, and the
collective economic weight of its
membership (which accounts for large
shares of global economic output and
trade), G20 membership indicates that a
country is developed. Thus, Argentina,
Brazil, India, Indonesia, and South
Africa are ineligible
for the 2 percent de
minimis standard, notwithstanding that,
based on the most recent World Bank
data, each country has a per capita GNI
below $12,375.
The list is useful but not for current country to country analysis, since it confesses to its own biases on the flexible use of terms such as developing, developed...
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 10:38am On Feb 11, 2021
jln115:
Google USTR LDC and developing country lists wink
So how did you conclude Seychelles & South Africa have been ranked developed?
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 10:36am On Feb 11, 2021
Appisko:
Can u provide source
The pdf is too large I'm getting a 413 error.

There is a 2020 report here.

https://www.weforum.org/reports/the-global-competitiveness-report-2020
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 10:22am On Feb 11, 2021
jln115:
See above wink
Congo isn't ranked, DRC isn't equal to Congo, didn't see ivory at first but there is still a country missing in its place, I was working with your screenshots & this site reduces the resolutions on screenshots, WTO members only huh, nice can I get the link now?
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 10:01am On Feb 11, 2021
Appisko:
It doesn't take anything away that ur country still lagging behind
Don't get carried away, this is what is categorized as manufacturing by the link.

Manufacturing refers to industries belonging to ISIC divisions 15-37. Value added is the net output of a sector after adding up all outputs and subtracting intermediate inputs. It is calculated without making deductions for depreciation of fabricated assets or depletion and degradation of natural resources. The origin of value added is determined by the International Standard Industrial Classification (ISIC), revision 3. Data are in current U.S. dollars
It literally offers no a valuable assessment other than the total output through $ returns, & we know resource rich countries tend to do better in such analysis.

Instead a better measure on manufacturing is based on productivity & use of available resources, & the word economic forum has a 2019 report on Global competitiveness

Methodology
We define competitiveness as the set of institutions, policies, and factors that determine the level of productivity of a country The level of productivity, in turn, sets the level of prosperity that can be reached by an economy. The productivity level also determines the rates of return obtained by investments in an economy, which in turn are the fundamental drivers of its growth rates. In other words, a more competitive economy is one that is likely to grow faster over time
Africa's top 10
1. Mauritius
2. South Africa
3. Morroco
4. Seychelles
5. Algeria
6. Botswana
7. Egypt
8. Namibia
9. Kenya
10. Rwanda

Kenya's manufacturing is way more diverse than Ghana's, it only ranks second to south africa among the countries currently here debating.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 9:26am On Feb 11, 2021
jln115:
but you're not though grin grin
How are you interpreting the list?

Countries ranked (LDC, & Developing Countries) Vs countries not ranked (Developed countries)

So, in Africa out of the 55 countries there are.
31 that are LDC
8 that are Developing countries

And these 16 Unranked African countries.

Algeria
Comoros
Congo
Egypt
Ethiopia
Eritrea
Equatorial Guinea
Ivory Coast
Libya
Sao tome and principle
Somalia
South Africa
South Sudan
Sudan
Seychelles
Western Sahara

(Developed according to jln115)

I'm not saying the list is flawed, I'm sure we can both agree for now your interpretation skills are wanting, I gather the unranked countries are not purposely intended to be included while interpreting the list...

it's also quite clear the office of the U.S TRADE is using it's own specific methodologies to compile the list, & probably provides each term with its own new meaning through these set thresholds. Well then, I guess you should also be kind enough to post the link or methodologies used.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 8:39am On Feb 11, 2021
Appisko:
According to macrotrends
Most industrialized countries in Africa top 5

South Africa
Egypt
Nigeria
Morroco
Ghana

Rvp the chief lier would deny this grin grin grin
Algeria ranks first in that link.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 3:00pm On Feb 08, 2021
Vlain:
Lmao idiot. 95% of nairobi pics here is edited. Quality image is what U saw in Durban.

Ur CBD us crappy ASF and I am glad U are starting to see that. Gradually U are making progress grin grin
You're getting carried away bruh...

Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 9:44pm On Feb 04, 2021
jln115:
per capita income
Then the average Zuid African is most likely earning twice as much as the average Kenyan in 2020 not thrice.

Zuid African blankes are on average probably earning slightly above the same wage range as the other races average south african so without Factoring ppp I don't see how you'd come up with the earlier factor of three using the 2020 figures in a ZA black vs Kenyan PCI comparison.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 3:29pm On Feb 04, 2021
jln115:
Simply stated that black South Africans earn 3 times more than Kenyans, live in much less poverty than Kenyans and that the black Middle class is much larger than Kenya.... Oh and there are many many more Black millionaires is SA to compared to Kenya... Those are the facts bru
What are you basing your assertions on? Gdppc, GNI, Minimum wages, Average wages, a hunch, what exactly?
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 7:02pm On Feb 02, 2021
Tayser:
Before & After
This is quite interesting, with a quick glance someone can just ignore the meaning behind those two pictures.

Dust like other tiny particles usually guides the flow of rain by being a condensation nucleus, Water droplets in clouds form when water vapour changes into liquid water around the condensation nucleus, such as a tiny particle of dust or soot, or a flake of salt. These coalesce to create clouds and ultimately fall as rain.

The more the dust in the atmosphere the more the water droplets hence in deserts the rain barely falls due to an unhealthy cycle of oversupply of dust Vs water vapour. You can even see the rapid changes in the environment as its getting more healthy with the introduction of that road.

It's even more fun to know that the Sahara desert actually feeds the Amazon forest with its rain through the Saharan dust plumes pic 1, the dust also distributes nutrients that are uprooted from the Sahara to the Atlantic Ocean, the Amazon, & the two Americas enriching these different ecosystems & there inhabitants for thousands of years now.

It seems like everyone on earth leaches from Africa, from humans, fish, other animals to oceans, forests in different continents, & the continents themselves, Asia even had to steal the Indian subcontinent from Africa lol...

Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 6:30pm On Feb 02, 2021
mtisTheQubit:
grin grin Ok the word 'Tanzania' should replace laziness in the dictionary
Actually Tanzania is quite a unique country. Their "laziness" has a logical & rational scientific reason behind it.

Did you know TZ pre 1962, were quite a hard working people much like Kenyans they sustained rebellions against people with superior Weaponry like the Arabs, zanj rebellion & against the Germans, majimaji rebellion, it was easier for Arabs to get their slaves from DRC, but like China rn the hard-work they put on affected a key generation of people & resulted in them being almost responsible for causing a pandemic I bet you won't guess the pandemic, it was a laughing pandemic. grin

Tanganyika laughter epidemic

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanganyika_laughter_epidemic

Christian F. Hempelmann, then of Purdue University, has theorized that the episode was stress-induced In 1962, Tanganyika had just won its independence, he said, and students had reported feeling stressed because of higher expectations by teachers and parents MPI, he says, usually occurs in people without a lot of power "MPI is a last resort for people of a low status It's an easy way for them to express that something is wrong
It doesn't take much to note that whenever the Tanzanians here feel ignored or undervalued they go hahahahahaha, hohohohohoho or pwapwapwapwa, it's a coping mechanism that has been working for them since 1962 luckily it remained an epidemic for a long period but I think it has finally crossed over to Ghana & Nigeria, some of them just litter the thread with this emoticons grin grin grin trying to cope with the facts raping them...

Also whenever you hear or see someone laugh even when there is nothing to laugh about, know there's something wrong, they're most likely trying to cope with stress so be considerate, offer an advice or a helping hand. If it's your child be a parent, a lot of African parents fail in emotional guidance, since their greatest parenting skills revolve around caning, yelling & ordering. You can't change the older generation but you can guide the future to improve your family's generation mental health.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 5:49am On Feb 02, 2021
mtisTheQubit:
calm down we just trying to debate on stuff cheesy Anyway fact is there is no country in Africa with kind of tech India owns..like i said they might have poor souls but they are way ahead of Africa in many areas..Did you know that more than half of IBM employees reside in India Or many of the big tech companies ceos in states are indian born. Do you know that apart from the whites the next group in Africa which controls massive investments are Indians. Those are facts bro..I will not wail where Africa cannot reach..

an yes India got lot of poor folks. Extremely poor...
Ok
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 5:46am On Feb 02, 2021
Nemesis2you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKmfHOPf3YU

Those who know the least want to be heard the most - idi amin

Funny guy grin
Go back to Facebook, we have enough Nigerians & Ghanaians here to keep us entertained.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 11:33pm On Feb 01, 2021
Nemesis2you:
It is if u want me to answer , otherwise wetin my concern
I don't want you to answer. This was a discussion not a test. If you have nothing else except vague statements then I guess the bubble of ignorance is gone, I've done my part.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 11:27pm On Feb 01, 2021
kikuyu1:
Its all TRUE! They also led in technology in the ancient WORLD.
Heard of wootz steel?


[url][/www.ancient-origins.net/artifacts-ancient-technology/wootz-steel-damascus-blades-0010148]

The West knows this as Damascus steel which is simple a copy of ancient Indian steel making.




Or Urumi swords? A multi bladed whip valuable of supersonic speed.

[url][https://youtu.be/fMz_Z0Xq-2Iurl]


[url][/www.ancient-origins.net/artifacts-other-artifacts/flexible-and-deadly-blade-dangerous-urumi-007805]

There's much MUCH more but I don't want to overwhelm people here.

This graph shows how India's share of global trade in 1 ad 1000 ad and 1700 WAS greater than China's.
[url]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_regions_by_past_GDP_(PPP)/url]

The Muslim invaders killed 90 mn Hindus beginning with the first warlord Mohamed Ghori in 1175.
The following Mughals slaughtered and starved millions dismantling tens of thousands, some say at LEAST 40,000 temples looking for treasure.


[url][socialissuesindia./1000-years-of-islamic-jihad-in-india/url]



Fyi, THEY NEVER hid their atrocities!



Now the descendants of these mass murderers are yelping about Kashmir pretending THEY'RE Palestinians!

Some idea of what happened to Hindu temples.

.

These are contemporary accounts!







You can guess the amount of wealth the Hindus lost!



Will Durant was right.



The chronicles of continuous looting are depressing like reading atrocity porn.
Believe you me: the berserker rage of the homo mass murderers ruined India. The arrival of the Brits early 1700s completed a process of pauperisation that BEGAN with Islamic invaders.
Evidence of their temple destruction is plain to see like the Hamphi ruins.
First off the Indus valley civilizations aren't equal to just India. It spanned across several modern countries pic 1

Carbon steel was invented independently twice. While the Indus valley steel was a lil more impact full pre industrial revolution. The Tanzanian haya also forged it during the PIA also no, ancient Indians didn't lead in technology that should undoubtedly go to Egyptians. Bronze & regular iron was far more useful in that age, & other technologies existed that were more meaningful, I mean the Egyptians were building skyscrapers 4000 years ago with what? We currently don't even know. We also don't know their sources for tin to make bronze. They had lots of wood to make ships 40m long from where & how did they get this much wood through the Sahara or Sinai? There are so many mysteries in Egypt due to how advanced their tech or work ethic was.

India & China without a doubt were the great economic powers of that time as well as Mali/Ghana/Songhai but we shouldn't be carried away by allthat glitter, the Greeks, Aryans, Mongols even Muslims successfully invaded with impunity.

The wealth stolen is definitely disturbing, I won't comment on it rn.

Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 10:45pm On Feb 01, 2021
Nemesis2you:
First which country r u from sir ?
It's not relevant to the discussion, simply back up your assertions of this 8000 yr old phantom Indian civilization & it/they being older than the Nile valley civilizations or Levantine civilizations.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 10:16pm On Feb 01, 2021
Nemesis2you:
Now that's a start to the inevitable realisation someday lol
Ok once you've exhausted your favorite quotes I'd like to know which Egyptian civilization you were referring to? & please show us the earliest harrapan or any Indus valley civilization that existed prior to 3000 BCE that's 5000 years before present well in the early bronze age.

Saying 8000 ybp means pre-pottery or early-pottery for the entire Indian subcontinent since by 6000BCE none of the Indus valley civilizations had yet to even invent pottery or were just then discovering it, so it can't be any of the Indus valley civilizations. So which Indian civilization existed prior to the Indus valley civilizations & before even the age of pottery making in India huh? What makes this civilization that lacked even basic utensils to be considered a civilization? Are you confusing cave/tent dwelling hunters gatherer Societies with civilizations?
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 7:52pm On Feb 01, 2021
kikuyu1:
Dude? What the ACTUAL FECK!? Did I pee in your cornflakes? Have I written any falsities?
Nah I was just making an observation

kikuyu1:
THE WORLD HAS NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THE WEALTH OF ANCIENT INDIA!?
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 6:59pm On Feb 01, 2021
Nemesis2you:
India is a more than 8000 year's old civilization , older than Egyptian and mesopotamian civilizations .

I know I shouldn't be correcting anybody here since u all are self appointed PhDs in internet history grin
Nonsense, what is your definition of the word civilization? Modern India has been disconnected several times from the tiny Indus valley civilizations that ended by 1300BCE

Still the Nile valley civilizations & Levant civilizations are factually far older. I don't understand the excessive India wanking by kikuyu1 & mtisTheQubit but don't think we're all that gullible.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 6:17am On Feb 01, 2021
Goel:
Indians just rank next to whites in wealth ownership just in Africa. And they strictly are not the group brought as servants by Brits. They have been migrating and settling around world, in Americas, Europe, Australia, Hong Kong and Singapore for long, as early as 19th century.

They "brought" it than handing it over to Africans. They stole African resources, made themselves wealthier and some families moved to Africa who had more seed money before settling.

Their wealth, settlement and things they made is counted as a part of wealth of particular African country. But it benefits African people too little. That's why I said North Africa (Arabic) and South Africa (Indo-European) are special cases.

I didn't. People here start it with bringing Algeria, Egypt and Seychelles into discussion when they find it hard to defend countries like Nigeria, Ghana and Kenya.

Lol why are you going after essence? I gave that because you brought Bangladesh and Pakistan. Look, I'm dropping South Asia, it doesn't affect my argument because India itself is 80% of South Asia and has all indicators above South Asian average.


https://databank.worldbank.org/data/download/GDP.pdf

No, they called out first, I don't even jump in discussion otherwise.

When I push for automotives or sometimes we talk about poverty reduction and slum population, somebody again comes and post, "look Cape Town is better than Delhi" and things always go like it.

GDP is strictly for indicating internal trade. Countries which have been developed for a long time have low GDP to wealth ratios while those growing have it higher.

We have a lot of things, "percentage of population in industries vs farms", innovation and a tonne of development indicators and further indicators. You can't describe any comparison that simply.

Also, both a country and a continent are just two settlements. Their political discourse is different but they still are settlements. In that regard, if they are of same size, indeed we can compare Europe vs China vs India vs Africa.
You should be on your knees thanking Kali for finding wealth in Africa, do you not know what bringing wealth means in English, did you bring wealth to the US, Europe Australia since you also have a high household income per capita in those regions? Also Indians in Africa pre-19th century is just priceless, where in Africa? I know in the pre-19th century an African was your kingmaker Malik Ambar

The families that had seed money, which part of Africa did they hand this money over? Even jln115 won't be to clumsy to claim Boer brought money or handed it over, they leached the resources & Africans took over.

Anwar Sadat the Egyptian president was a Nubian Nilo-saharan. North Africa & Sub-Saharan Africa exist racially separated only in racist minds, of course North African settlements will benefit North Africans just like east African settlements don't benefit west Africans, what is wrong with that? Does Hong Kong benefit India since they're both in Asia Since when have settlements been beneficial to others more than the people currently living there, what is your point really?

You're fake, everyone can see you mentioning the entire Africa that I bolded in your quote, we'll take nothing less than you admitting that you're a hypocrite & a map reading ret@rd, I suggest you give up now while you still can.

Good you should also drop China out. I'll look into that link shortly.

They were discussing Chinese Vs Indian trucks so you called the entire Africa out first.

South African cities are >>>> Indian cities this is a fact you shouldn't even dare to refute unless you can backup your assertions.

Yes we can & it'll turn out to be Europe> China> Africa or India. There are countries in Africa, Nigeria, DRC... each with a >20 trillion dollar potential that can rival Europe's entire economy, so for now while Africa is undoubtedly underperforming, India is doing quite well for itself & you'll definitely have the edge by 2030.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 11:19pm On Jan 31, 2021
Goel:
India occupied Pakistan's larger part twice and scored even a complete submissive surrender letter from Pakistan in 1971.
Trolling apart, by reaching, I strictly mean reaching. Indian naval ships and aircrafts have that range. Missiles cover up to Atlantic ocean and can even hit anywhere in entire Europe. Same capability doesn't lie with anyone in Africa.

You know what I'm trying to say but ignoring deliberately. Africa is the land of blacks. Foreign settlers like Arabs, Indians or Europeans who came to Africa brought their wealth and knowledge from their origin. Their settlements are no way comparable to a normal African country.

Again vague man. Production requires consumption which wasn't ever an issue with African population. Africa's problem was lack of skill development and integration. China and India were integrated as single countries to work for themselves, Africa was broken into small countries with issues with each other.

I am afraid that you are unaware of history saying that hardships of your countries were any more than those in South Asia. We didn't have anything and never got benefits of friendship as had hostile relations with big powers initially. This led to attempts to localise, although of poor quality but localised production and relations with west became normal after 80s.

That's what I'm critique of, stop losing the essence of argument. Africa's natural resources are far larger than India who had nothing to start with, yet has an overwhelming industrial advantage because of processing.

India doesn't have much petroleum but is world's largest producer of petroleum products. Same goes with other things and Chinese list is even longer.

Strategically speaking, India doesn't have to depend solely upon Africa (and doesn't even now either) for raw materials. Australia, Brazil, Russia, China etc. are there.

Issue was if Africa was China.
China has one of largest ores or Iron and enormous capacity to make steel. That's why even US can't dare to touch their shores. Same case doesn't lie with Afriacns who can't utilise what they have naturally.

MER (nominal) total for 2019 nearly per IMF and world bank:
India: 2.95 trillions
Africa: 2.6 trillions
Stable figures for 2020 will come sometime in mid of 2021.

Seems that you don't even bother to read.

India's GDP per capita was a fraction of Africa in past few months decades. Surpassed only around 2014-17 and yet is heading to become double in mid of next decade. Why? Africa's population growth is way higher and India's GDP growth is.

I'm not saying that India is a too great place to live in like Europe and US are, I'm saying that Afriacns calling out India is like pot calling the cattle black. I stand correct there as it is.

Even the current similar economic size of India and Africa is an illusion simply (PPP) and is temporary. This is like comparing Ukraine and Moldavia to Namibia etc.. All have similar per capita GDPs for now but Ukraine is a completely different kind of economy and right now below its "normal position" for some reason. It will eventually go there. India is in transition stage and just surpassing them.

Have a good read to get what I'm trying to say:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_Complexity_Index
Don't attempt to fly your ignorance like it's a substitute for facts, it's irritating, North Africa isn't Bedouin majority, North west is still heavily Berbers while Egypt & both Sudans are a mixup of several afroasiatic speakers & Nilo-saharans. Even then Arabs are semites & they together with other Afroasiatic people descend from Africa so they're not foreign to the place, their genetic admixture is.

Indians made it to Africa as European servants they didn't integrate with Africans until the 20th century so no they didn't bring wealth or knowledge, they couldn't.

Europeans arguably brought their language but to say wealth would be ironic, they stole wealth, they did not bring it.

Until the 21st century neither Bedouins nor North Africans were wealthy, mansa Musa from mali_Sub-Saharan Africa is noted to have been the wealthiest man in Africa if not the world, the richest countries via per capita are in Sub-Saharan Africa. Their current settlements are not as impressive as you'd love us to believe. Also who compares settlements to normal African countries lol.

Consumption, It's literally the point I was bringing out. Now you're bringing south Asia into this discussion, what happened to India Vs Africa, finding it a lil steamy for you huh? The essence of argument was Africa Vs India not what you decide also stop bringing China into this discussion, strategically speaking most of those counties won't be trading with India incase of an all out assault on Africa. Africans can utilize their resources it's only that this is a hypothetical scenario, reality doesn't even support the existence of anything less than 55 Africas so you see, it's in the details, while some africas can't manage theirs, other africas say Botswana, Egypt, Gaddafi Libya are/were utilizing their resources well enough.

Post the link(s) for the gdps.

I understand that India isn't static, that wasn't the focus of this discussion, also no African even called India out what you're seeing is a reaction from your actions, you ironically called out the entire Africa here when Just40 was arguing about Indian Vs Chinese trucks & I was just correcting your earlier ignorant assertions.


Goel:
Africa isn't a thing in common thing in Indian minds in general. Entire African continent combined is incapable of even bothering India even once economically or militarily either
Also rvp20182 already brought in a valid argument on which between ppp & nominal gdp is way better for an internal country analysis, & which works for a country Vs country/continent analysis. Still there is nothing wrong with regarding either of the two.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 7:07am On Jan 30, 2021
kikuyu1:
YES. THEY. WOULD. They're so far ahead of us technologically its not even funny.
Subs, satellites, attack choppers, aircraft carriers, working directed energy warfare platforms etc, etc all INDIGENOUS.
If we had to throw down we couldn't even touch them -fact.
You didn't follow the conversation so I understand where you are coming from. The moniker you're quoting didn't initiate the conversation, it was a hypothetical scenario that saw Africa Vs India. Not the 55 countries each against India on their own.

Africa as a country doesn't exists, if we're taking each of the 55 countries Vs India then Africa is at a significant disadvantage, there are 16 landlocked countries none needs & very few of them even want a naval fleet. Some like Mauritius don't even have a standing army so it's not like I was insinuating Liberia with the help of Sao Tome would put up a fight against India, that would make me ret@rd.

I was simply pointing out that if this was an Africa Vs India war a lot would happen, first they won't be dealing with each state on its own, if we're using actual war tactics then alliances are not unheard of, also Africa could just as easily create a pact with Pakistan, the MENA Muslim ummah, Turkey, China, Russia. There is a lot to war than just the currently available weapons. Not even in the 6day war did superior Weaponry matter, the middle eastern war on terror is a never ending war despite the differences in funding, players or Weaponry, weapons except nuclear have never been that assertive in a war. I mean the Anglo-Zulu War if anything should be enough to reason against any attempts at over simplifying war.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 9:12pm On Jan 29, 2021
Appisko:
Lol am asking a humble question hahahaha who is this man
You're either a woman or a closeted gay man, this isn't instagram so your Kenyan men fetish, exemplified with a gallery of what can only be assumed to be well researched Kenyan men should probably remain your secret.

Why are Ghanaians this open with their disturbing Kenyan fetish. Just some time back some coon was bravely trying to mask his pedophilia by showing us his gallery full of Kenyan preteen girls, & rating their beauty, disgusting.

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