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Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 8:47pm On Jul 18, 2020
Just30:
You can refer to the sources i provided to you dont mistake Opaque funding source to Reliability.

grin grin

Think Tanks and Civil Societies ranking 2018
Impressive.

Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 8:20pm On Jul 18, 2020
Just30:
Unfortunately, it has nothing to do with their reliability but everything to do with their funding sources and how transparently they disclose them.

The Opaque Think Tanks are some of the best in Africa
Reliability = trust.
The highly opaque organizations mostly cater for a few elites, they might also be deceptive, while the more transparent with a more free market orientation get to be more flexible hence reliable.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 7:58pm On Jul 18, 2020
Just30:
Think Tanks love to keep their source of funding opaque enough so as to avoid being smeared by the political establishment as being biased

For instance, the opaque IMANI is Ghana best think tank and the 3rd best Think Tank in sub Saharan Africa
Post your source for the bolded.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 7:56pm On Jul 18, 2020
Just30:
Think Tanks love to keep their source of funding opaque enough so as to avoid being smeared by the political establishment as being biased

For instance, the opaque IMANI is Ghana best think tank and the 3rd best Think Tank in sub Saharan Africa
From the link
Transparency is an essential requirement for democratic processes as it allows citizens to know who influences who, how, and with what means. That should include organisations such as think tanks and not-for-profit organisations, as well as those representing business interests
The whole basis for the ranking is solely dependent on transparency, 5 star organizations are therefore more reliable in comparison to the highly opaque & deceptive organizations. EOD
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 7:25pm On Jul 18, 2020
Just30:
I dont know if you know what highly opaque means
I don't see how what you know or don't concerns me or what I wrote.

Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 2:30pm On Jul 18, 2020
vaxx:
The leading think tank in Africa..... Ghana has more ranking organization on the table and it is has the second best ranking institutions in Africa....



https://www.transparify.org/
What? Ghana has one at second best but your overall performance is quite pathetic, with evidently 3 low ranking, highly opaque, almost deceptive think tank institutions.

The whole point of this ranking is to get them to be more transparent hence reliable wink
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 6:28am On Jul 06, 2020
obaaderemi:
But is it correct to classify people with languages only. That's what I see a lot of people doing.
Yes, language is usually sufficient enough to classify any groups of people, while classifying people individually would be more precise, language clustering is more advantageous hence despite some errors would still work better when dealing with large masses.

That's why people from the same ethnic group eg maasai, fulani, yoruba & kikuyus would tend to cluster together both culturally & genetically despite being individually phenotypically different.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 6:36pm On Jul 05, 2020
obaaderemi:
Noooo! Yorubas and Igbos are not Bantus. But igbos are believed to be pro- Bantu.
The Bantus gene can be found in people around Jos and Benue. In fact these people as far back as around 500bc started working with iron. They are the forefathers of the Bantus in East Africa, according to many experts. This makes Kikuyu 1 very angry. He would rather his forefathers migrated from hell than from West Africa. cheesy
The right division would be benue-congo (P1), & while kikuyu1 is off in his approach trying to detach the whole Bantu division from other Niger-Congo groups he still has a valid point. Assimilations are still happening today hence it's not unlikely for an entire clan or even tribe to be assimilated by another.

Genetically most bantu & other West African groups would cluster together with fellow Niger-Congo groups while certain groups like Kenyan Bantus, the Kikuyus & fulanis (P2) would cluster with Nilo-saharans & afroasiatic speakers.

Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou:
BeforeJuly:
Yep it's been clarified


There's just this thing with the igbo's... theres a very real resemblance with the Zulu tribe.
They look a lot alike...and they make up about 90% of all Nigerians there.
Alot of people still don't get this, I think it's part of the reason why it's difficult to convince Kikuyu1 that BANTU, igbo, & Yoruba are all related ethnolinguistic divisions. They're all basically languages similar to how Anglo-phones, us included, hold conversations through writing in a western germanic language that's Indo-European despite the fact that we might not always look like the classical English phenotype or share any direct lineages with them.

Phenotypically igbos might resemble Bantus, linguistically they are as close to bantus as they're to the fulanis. & all these groups despite their genotype & phenotype would still be classified as being Niger-Congo.

Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 3:22pm On Jul 05, 2020
Just30:
still one is far above the other cheesy
grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 2:58pm On Jul 05, 2020
BeforeJuly:
But are Yoruba's bantus?

I believe it should be the South East no?

Igbos have a lot in common with south Africans.
Yoruba's aren't bantu, Igbos as well aren't bantu but all these three groups are Niger-Congo & genetically close as supported by their phylogenetic tree.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 2:54pm On Jul 05, 2020
kikuyu1:
You're right. I mean the migration from S Naij/Cameroon via the Congo. I'll edit.
If Bantus were so incapable of permeating the thick forest can you explain how there exists thriving bantu tribes in Cameroon, Congo & Nigeria today despite that aforementioned challenge? are they really that foreign to West Africa, why does their iron technology & cultural & language affinities tie these communities with other Niger-Congo groups & most importantly why do they cluster together genetically despite your doubts?

Luo people are not bantu & while they indeed migrated South & mixed with bantu communities found in East Africa. They did so in waves of migrating clans, the first of which are responsible for the Bachwezi empire. The Luo babito dynasties are well documented to have led the great east African empire from before the Tutsis & baganda split off till date.

Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 2:35pm On Jul 05, 2020
kikuyu1:
THE BANTU MIGRATION FAIRY TALE FROM S NAIJ/CAMEROON VIA CONGO,FINALLY DEBUNKED 2![/b]

Some insist on archaeogenetics to ID vanished ethnic groups. The danger is the West can use false nomenclature like King Tut in 2010 where they claimed his R1 is shared by most Whites-rmbr that BS?

[url]Half of European men share King Tut's DNA - Reuters[/url]
Or they can use a misleading sample like todays MEs and insist that's identical to The Originals.

Increasingly,though with rising awareness among the wider public that ishyt won't fly and the Academic/Media Elite are forced to come clean publishing their sample size and methodologies. When they do so the results are unimpeachable.

Here's King Tut's fam real genetic analysis by DNAtribe. As you can see they're mainly Southern African bantu,Great lakes (also bantu) with the Tropical West African component comprising a quarter of the latter. Interestingly,the family has only trace Horn and Sahelian genes,the opposite of the expected Kushite ancestry many especially those who insist no bantus were in AE would expect.

Ramesses 111 was more Kushite,almost a full third,though unlike the King Tut fam he was mainly Great Lakes.

The 3rd chart shows their geographical regional affinities.

[url]Gourdine JP, Keita SOY, Gourdine JL, Anselin A, 2018. Ancient Egyptian Genomes from northern Egypt[/url]

Craniometrics of predynastic Badarian skulls reveals their essential Bantu nature
Crichton, 1996; Keita, 1990

In sum the real descendants of the founders of ancient Kemet in the main are highlighted in the dark-mid green (E) along with A & B on the map above as explained above. CAN.WE.THEREFORE.KILL.THIS.NOISE.ABOUT.THERE.BEING.NO.BANTUS.IN.ANCIENT.EGYPT!?
The ancestral haplogroup E lineage in Egypt is E3b, also known as E1B1b found in most Afroasiatic & Nilo-saharans groups its a different subclade to the common Haplogroup E, E1b1a found in different Niger-Congo groups.

Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 2:10pm On Jul 05, 2020
obaaderemi:
Ghana's hdi and per capita income are higher than Kenya's. wink
Still both are classified as low middle income. cry
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 10:35am On Jul 04, 2020
kikuyu1:
THE BANTU MIGRATION FAIRY TALE 1

The Learning Process never stop! Today we debunk once and for all the Bantu Migration fairy tale. Fyi,it was a colonial historiographer,US linguist,Joseph Greenberg who first came up with the theory. He's the same who invented the Afro-Asiatic language family to separate Kushites and Chadic speakers from Africa by pretending they're foreign immigrants. His theory goes Bantus,the majority of the African population,had nothing to do with any of the accepted cultures and civilizations in Egypt,Meroe,Napata,Kush,Axum and rusticated in the Cameroonian jungles until iron was invented around 2000 bc. The more adventurous Bantu then began crossing the massive impenetrable forest in 'small groups' over millennia until the continent was settled.

People still believe this ishyt and I'm putting a stop to it! The funny thing is Bantu migration stories have knowing to do with Cameroon or a Congo journey. Jan Vansina,a true researcher never believed in the Congo migration. His CV glitters with accomplishments!


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Vansina



[url]http://www.kaa-umati.co.uk/Bantu%20in%20Ancient%20Egypt.htm[/url]

I rmbr we had a Luhyia poster,NairobiWalker who said as much.



Next,Niger-Congo speakers in unexpected places!
According to Jan some Luo clans were assimilated by bantu groups which would be correct, she doesn't contradict or oppose the origin of bantus as a whole. It's also no secret bantus weren't & still aren't endogormous, intermarriages are culturally accepted.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 10:29am On Jul 04, 2020
vankelvin:
This question should be a general question,
not only for Ghana, so when you get it that way, you will know its possible even-though we will not be able to meet our projected targets same for every Country.
Mmm
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 10:27am On Jul 04, 2020
kikuyu1:
THE BANTU MIGRATION FAIRY TALE 1

The Learning Process never stop! Today we debunk once and for all the Bantu Migration fairy tale. Fyi,it was a colonial historiographer,US linguist,Joseph Greenberg who first came up with the theory. He's the same who invented the Afro-Asiatic language family to separate Kushites and Chadic speakers from Africa by pretending they're foreign immigrants. His theory goes Bantus,the majority of the African population,had nothing to do with any of the accepted cultures and civilizations in Egypt,Meroe,Napata,Kush,Axum and rusticated in the Cameroonian jungles until iron was invented around 2000 bc. The more adventurous Bantu then began crossing the massive impenetrable forest in 'small groups' over millennia until the continent was settled.

People still believe this ishyt and I'm putting a stop to it! The funny thing is Bantu migration stories have knowing to do with Cameroon or a Congo journey. Jan Vansina,a true researcher never believed in the Congo migration. His CV glitters with accomplishments!


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Vansina



[url]http://www.kaa-umati.co.uk/Bantu%20in%20Ancient%20Egypt.htm[/url]

I rmbr we had a Luhyia poster,NairobiWalker who said as much.



Next,Niger-Congo speakers in unexpected places!
Since when were Luos bantu? Also I hope you do realise you're still supporting a Bantu migration just not one involving Cameroon.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 10:13am On Jul 04, 2020
vankelvin:
Waaw,
COVID19 only happened in Ghana I guess?
But you are right, your country has perform so abysmal when it comes to the management of Covid19.
Testing is an issue, Health facilities have not seen any better improvement, not much has been done by your Government to help the Citizens recover their losses so you right when you say Ghana cannot meet its targets.
because Government is giving
3 months free water and Electricity,
50% pay increase to all health Workers and taxes canceled from their pay as well,
Interest free loans to companies ETC
You're quick to respond. Am not trying to belittle Ghanas progress but one still has to be sincere, do you seriously believe you'll grow by that much with the year being halfway done already?
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 10:09am On Jul 04, 2020
rvp20182:
Yes, it interesting. I don't know if you can formalize by "force" or by nature? Kagame is trying to formalize by degree - even boda boda are now under heavy regulation including trip meters.
We'll see how well it reflects in their growth, surely rural-urban migrations, slums & maybe tax compliance within Kigali would be significantly impacted.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 9:54am On Jul 04, 2020
vankelvin:
Check the progress made by Ghana in the last 3 years and compare to Kenya and Tanzania?
I think you mean the progress/leap Ghana was going to make. Sadly covid-19 happened, relaxation of revenue collection, free electricity & other services affected, including logistics. 2020 is indeed an interesting year for economists.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 9:45am On Jul 04, 2020
Mkenya2019:
Kagame is really setting the bar high. it doesn't cost much for a city to plant trees, trim grass and collect rubbish - but many in Africa have made this look like rocket science.

Btw what do you think about Rwanda making most of informal trading you see in most africa countries illegal - like hawkers and all that.
Not a well thought out decision unless it was to simply discourage economic migrants from neighbouring countries. He needs to setup some major hypermarket chains & a matured delivery system to turn those hawkers into suppliers to fill up the gap. Hopefully it's only going to target Kigali.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 9:38am On Jul 04, 2020
Mkenya2019:
They are still part of HIPC with Ghana - heavily indebted poor countries. Now they are out of the LDC. But next year - COVID-19 - may see them going back to LDC smiley
While Kenya, Sudan Djibouti & Comoros remain representing EA...
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 9:33am On Jul 04, 2020
vankelvin:
Yes,
Want him to know about that one too..
And from that same page there are 2019 rankings which Ghana did better than Kenya and Tanzania, so he should know where to place Ghana as far as Africa is concerned.
You're blind mate, look who's number 62 in 2019 & explain to us just how Ghana did better?

Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 9:31am On Jul 04, 2020
Mkenya2019:
Tanzania the newly minted 'lower middle income' country will not like this. There was I time there were about to overtake kenya.
Finally they've made it to LMIC paradise, can't wait until they start barking in our faces grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 9:26am On Jul 04, 2020
Rwanda, East Africa.

Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 9:19am On Jul 04, 2020
[quote author=vankelvin post=91361107][/quote]2020 estimates mate... Check 2019 for more accuracy.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 9:16am On Jul 04, 2020
rvp20182:
Btw - I checked the latest GDP PPP - I see Ghanas and Tanzania are way lower than they normally want to claim

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.MKTP.PP.KD?most_recent_value_desc=false

Tanzania 2019 149,785.48
Ghana 2019 164,640.54
Sudan 2019 169,474.85
Angola 2019 211,762.57
Kenya 2019 227,638.54
Ethiopia 2019 248,782.14
South Africa 2019 730,913.37
Nigeria 2019 1,032,048.48
grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 3:53pm On Jul 03, 2020
jln115:
what? Bro Johannesburg make up most of our GDP contributing 34% to our economy....
You can Google to fact check that figure if you don't believe

Then we also have Durban and Pretoria(possibly even PE) that have bigger GDPs than Niarobi
Dude do you even read through what I write? Like I have to get you to understand almost every one of my replies.

Ok I'm gonna help you halfway through with the Nominal GDP (2018, billions of US dollars) =368, source Imf. now bring in the gdp's of Johannesburg & Capetown only not pErCenTagEs. Try to avoid your government stats. Wb, imf will do.

Also do post the gdp of Pretoria while you are at it.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou:
jln115:
Wealth not gdp
Ok I'll admit, they look suspiciously similar to the city gdps being whored around here... Post the gdps of South African cities & compare them to the nominal gdp of South Africa & let's use it as a case study, am sure you'll notice how distorted the figures are, I bet Johannesburg & Capetown make up a 100% of your nominal gdp.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 12:16pm On Jul 03, 2020
kikuyu1:
Trust me! Those MOFOS are even more delusional than most posters here. On top of that they're so riddled with emotional issues and complexes its a wonder their narrow dusty broken arses can even stand upright!

Fyi, Issaks ACTUALLY VOLUNTEERED TO PAY COLONIAL TAX IN THE 30s!? In the history of the world have you ever heard ishyt like that?

Its a loooonggg read but basically they wanted to be classed as Asian due to an innate anti African racism. They call us madh madhou ( Hard Hair) HONESTLY believing its a sign of inferiority. That mentality is what made them to try and seceed the NEP and join Somalia.

..

DAH FUQ!? WHO does that??



I could go on all day without any BS. Best way to know these guys is to listen to teachers who've suffered working for their offspring : screams, shouts, bleats, breaking glass and bloodstains of varying seriousness are the norm in a classroom of 60% above small Somalis. In fact this was THE REAL REASON teachers left the former NEP some years ago not Al Shabab attacks.
Funny enough those Isaaq Somalis are from Somaliland & they even regard other somali clans to be inferior & less Eurasian admixed, they're also in the process of attaining their secessionist dreamland from Somalia.

Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 11:27am On Jul 03, 2020
[quote author=Austine1213 post=91327286][/quote]PPP'S all of them see it clearly now jln115. All these city gdps are ppp's
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 11:25am On Jul 03, 2020
jln115:
it didn't need to specifically mention wether it's ppp or Nominal for a person of relative intelligence to see it was Nominal gdp they were talking about
She's a journalist & an economics illiterate. Of course she doesn't even know what she's quoting.

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