₦airaland Forum

tartar9:
"Whenever you are praying to
God, there is a combat going on
in the realm of the spirit,
between you and demon.
Whenever you are praying, your
prayer would first appear in the
form of smoke, but when you
began to be in the realm of the
spirit your prayer would turn to
fire, I mean when you began to
pray fervently. But out of 100
percent of people that prayed,
only 1.9 percent of people are
they that their prayer turned to
fire. Because their prayer are
attack by demons"

Roaming nairaland today; the streets tomorrow!

The gwoza caliphate has been destroyed now his eyes are on nigeria? !

Who we go ask?!

udyheart01:
Comedian Gordons when they played host to President
Jonathan and had American singer, Reuben
Studdard.
Never again will I buy any of this mad man
comedy or music-comedy. He has eaten
belleful and can now play God to determine
who will die. May the case of the Benue
Commissioner who said "Buhari is quarter to
go" not be his portion.

Use pidgin if simple english is difficult for you!

holatin:
so pathetic

this wount have happened if we ve a president in this last 5 yrs.

but Thank God we are wining the way against insurgence and we will win against incompetence too on march 28.

Nigeria will be great
Nigeria will survive

Sai buhari

Army is selling form!

Another campaign point struck off for buhari!

They for continue dey beat am till plane land!

Abuamam:
Islam is based on the Qur'an and authentic hadith; not videos of God-knows-who. No charismatic daddy GOs in Islam. Qur'an and authentic hadith.

And lots of bombs... and imaginary virgins! Grab yours now!!!

Empiree:
Nonsense!!!

What else is new?. Evangelists! I hail thee

You people point to two references from the Quran, 6:14 and 6:161-163, and claim these references show Muhammad as the first Muslim and then turn your attention to another verse of the Quran (7;143) concerning Moses being the first of the believers. Just to further your agenda you may also highlight other Quranic references indicating there were Muslims before Muhammed (pbuh) and Moses namely the first man Adam (Sura 2:30, 34-35, 37) and Abraham as well as other Prophets (Sura 4:163, S. 6:84) as believers. However you and other critics mainly use the Quranic verse about Moses (7:143) and try to put it along side the two concerning Muhammed (6:14 and 6:163) and you then allege contradiction/error.

Here Is The Refutation

Quite simply, the Quran does not claim Muhammed nor Moses to be the first ever Muslim. The critic imposes a faulty understanding on the Quranic verses and alleges a contradiction when there is no contradiction/error.

Despite this it is still thorough and beneficial to offer explanations in order to clear any confusion as well as help highlight the errors of the critics in the hope they realise their mistakes and abjure themselves and eventually become amongst the guided ones, Insha’Allah

Now lt's keep it simple. I feel it is logical to begin this simple refutation with analyzing the reference concerning Moses and then build upon this in a methodical fashion so that you and fellow christian readers can follow with ease. Did the Quran claim Moses to be the first ever believer?

7:143 sees Moses saying he is the first of the believers. However, we do see that this is true as he (Moses) was the first believer amongst his own people. Here is the link http://quran.com/7/143

Moses does not say he is the first believer ‘ever’. He merely claims he is the first of the believers and knowing the context one understands he is not claiming to be the first ever believer from humankind but the first amongst his people to believe, this is apparent as it is a relative term to the “believers” and situational-context tells us that the believers at the time of Moses were essentially the Children of Israel and thus we realise that Moses is referring to himself as the first to believe amongst the Children of Israel.

Critic like yourself fail to mention this and try to present this verse as meaning Moses is the first ever to believe amongst humanity, this is unfair and misleading on the part of the critic especially considering the word “ever” is not in the verse. There is further clarification of the Arabic phrase of the Quran ascribed to Moses (“awwalu almumineena”= “first of the believers”) as there is another reference in the Quran (26:51) where this term comes up and thus explaining the meaning of Moses’ statement of being the “first of the believers (“awwalu almumineena”).

So basic principle of Tafsir (explaining the Quran) is used by explaining a verse of the Quran (the verse concerning Moses, 7:143) by using another part of the Quran (26:51). So what do we learn about the statement of Moses in 7:143 by looking at Q26:51?. http://quran.com/26/51

26:51. “Verily! We really hope that our Lord will forgive us our sins, as we are the first of the believers [in Mûsa (Moses) and in the Monotheism which he has brought from Allâh].”

I dont need tp go into the context of the verse, that may be too inundated.


It is not up for debate whether Muhammad (pbuh) was the first Muslim or not. Quite simply he was the first Muslim in the sense that Muhammad was the first Muslim (i.e. who has submitted to God) amongst his own people (the Quraish) at that particular phase in history. This is completely correct. Hence there is no contradiction as Adam was the first Muslim ever while Muhammad was the first Muslim amongst his own people.

There are two Quranic references (6:14 and 6:162-163) the critics bring up, so it is appropriate to analyse the two references. The first of the Quranic references the critics cite (6:14) shows that Allah instructs Muhammed to “say” (Qul): “Verily, I am commanded to be the first of those who submit themselves to Allâh (as Muslims).”:

[b]Qur'an 6:14. Say (O Muhammad SAW): “Shall I take as a Walî (helper, protector, etc.) any other than Allâh, the Creator of the heavens and the earth? And it is He Who feeds but is not fed.” Say: “Verily, I am commanded to be the first of those who submit themselves to Allâh (as Muslims).” And be not you (O Muhammad SAW) of the Mushrikûn [polytheists, pagans, idolaters and disbelievers in the Oneness of Allâh].[/b]http://quran.com/6/14

Also note the same applies to the second Quranic reference (6:162-163) in that it also begins with Qul (say) and Mohammed is instructed to say: “… I am the first of the Muslims”: Here is the link http://quran.com/6/162-163

There isnt any contradictions. It's very simple. I could have simply said Adam was the first muslim ever on earth. Abraham made Islam permanent. Moses was also the first muslim in his time. Jesus was the first muslim in his time. And Muhammad perfected islam and became the first muslim among his people until end of time. Simple isn't without lengthy post. May Allah's blessings and peace be upon them all. Amin

Idol worshipper! Follower of occultic religion!

nortcentrallord:
He was so inlove with the opposite sex's pot of Gold. He was probably killed by the god of sex hence he died on Aisha's bossom with an erect pen-is pointing to the sky. What a shame!

Finishing!

Good news!

Abuamam:
Ask them to provide you with authentic evidence of 72virgins before you believe, otherwise, who is dumb and stupid? Duuh.

The videos are what? I'm sure you lack mb!

ozoigbondu:
face front pls

Omo see talk!