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OREMUSSANCTUS:
not too good for ya bro, ya good in latin, chai I envy ya. Well am just a bad catholic, praying for God's direction not to sin no more. U always welcome back ma bro, buh I wld luv to know why d change of faith. Rilwayne001 tola9ja

More like a lack of faith. I call them opportunists. Looking for a short cut to bliss!

johnydon22:
Lol so it's about legitimacy huh?

Am sure Ishmeal's descendants have it in their own mythology that Ishmeal is the legitimate son not isaac... Lolzzzzz..

Abraham wasn't married to hagar! Haven't you come across that part of the story?!

^^^ Amen!!!

johnydon22:
Exactly what am saying, i am correcting the Op's notion of abraham being a jew or can't read the simple english i used?

Abraham according to the mythology tho...
Beget Isaac and ishmeal and even other kids from his concubine ketura..

Isaac beget Esau (edom) and jacob (isreal) So following this Abraham is the father of all these people not just the jews... ALL OF THEM, EDOM AND ISREAL and co ...gerrit now?

The idea of being jew comes from being a part of the promise God gave Abraham. He's lineage will be remembered with that of the jews because he believed what God said and it was credited to him as righteousness. Besides the Bible clearly states that "through isaac will your lineage will be reckoned". Abraham believed God for isaac!

shaqhead:
Why build ur submission on a faulty foundation?
One: Abraham was NOT jewish or Israeli but Hebrew
Abraham was a Syrian by birth and is referred to as such in the Bible. Even Jacob, his grandson, is still referred to as a Syrian in Deuteronomy 26:5.The word Hebrew is first mentioned in Genesis 14:13, where Abraham is called Abram the Hebrew.This word comes from the Hebrew root word"Abar" and means simply "to cross over". Abrahamcrossed over into the promised land and became the first Hebrew. Since Abraham was a Hebrew, his descendants were also called Hebrews. Strictly speaking all of Abraham's descendants are Hebrews. This would include the descendants of Ishmael, who are the Arabs today. Also, the descendants of Esau, the grandson of Abraham, call Edomites. But by common usage, this name is applied to the nation of Israel only.Abraham was a Hebrew, but he was not an Israelite, nor a Jew. The first Israelite was Jacob, thegrandson of Abraham.
http://www.biblelineministries.org/articles/basearchphp3?action=full&mainkey=WHO+IS+A+JEW%3F

If Abraham is a jew he will give birth to jews. This is a matter of lineage. The Bible clearly states that the bond child will not have an inheritance with the child of the promise. Thats how jews came about because ishamael didn't receive an inheritance from Abraham! Ishmael was not sarah's product so he can't be referred to as a jew.

tola9ja:
WHAT YOU MEAN IS THAT THE VERSE I QUOTED SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM THE BIBLE ?

When you mix an acid e.g hcl, and a base e.g na2co3 together, you get salt and water which are both harmless! So take it that the verses you gave and those I gave combined yeild harmless results as what is important in a religion is the totality of it and not just some parts.
Besides the verses you gave are given to jews during the establishment of their state and do not form the basis of judaism or christianity!

tola9ja:
SO ALL THE VERSE I QUOTED IS FROM QUR'AN??

Proudly from the Bible. But when you mix it up with the verses I gave you you will see why christians don't go about killing. We trust no longer in the flesh but what Christ did on the cross of calvary to save us. You dudes obviously don't have a "cross" that saves to hold on to just occultic rituals focused on manipulating and taking by any means possible from others!

Horus:
Can you give me the name and number of the chapter where you see the word jewish in your bible

Esther 3:4 and many others.

tartar9:
how is Abraham(AS) jewish

He's the father of modern day jews. Or will he give birth to arabs if he were jew?

tartar9:
ok then.WORSE THAN ANIMALS SMH PERFECT DESCRIPTION FROM THE ALL PERFECT

Nothing less expected from a muslim! Rot and jealousy!

tola9ja:
Biblical/Pentateuch Intolerance:

I see so many religionists rant and rave about how Atheists are “not tolerant of believers and have no respect for their faith”. To non believers this claim is absurd. For intolerance of various religions is the foundation of Judaism, Christianity, Muslim and many other orthodox communities. Matter of fact, the Bible and Pentateuch commands religious intolerance in MANY verses, even to the point of KILLING people for their beliefs. Here then, are a few choice verses that show just how intolerant these religionists are of other believers and nonbelievers. We shall start with the two verses that helped to inflict one of the biggest mass murders in history, the Inquisition.

Woman with “familiar spirits” must be stoned to death. Leviticus 20:27

“Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.” Exodus 22:18



Kill those who are not Christian or Jewish:

You must kill those who worship another god. Exodus 22:20

Kill any friends or family that worship a god that is different than your own. Deuteronomy 13:6-10

Kill all the inhabitants of any city where you find people that worship differently than you. Deuteronomy 13:12-16

Kill everyone who has religious views that are different than your own. Deuteronomy 17:2-7

Kill anyone who refuses to listen to a priest. Deuteronomy 17:12-13

Kill any false prophets. Deuteronomy 18:20

Any city that doesn’t receive the followers of Jesus will be destroyed in a manner even more savage than that of Sodom and Gomorrah. Mark 6:11

Jude reminds us that God destroys those who don’t believe in him. Jude 5



Ignorance is bliss. Christians should not practice free inquiry nor socialize with non Christians:

Don’t associate with non-Christians. Don’t receive them into your house or even exchange greeting with them. 2 John 1:10

Shun those who disagree with your religious views. Romans 16:17

Paul, knowing that their faith would crumble if subjected to free and critical inquiry, tells his followers to avoid philosophy. Colossians 2:8



Judge other religions for not following Christ:

Whoever denies “that Jesus is the Christ” is a liar and an anti-Christ. 1 John 2:22

Christians are “of God;” everyone else is wicked. 1 John 5:19

The non-Christian is “a deceiver and an anti-Christ” 2 John 1:7

Anyone who doesn’t share Paul’s beliefs has “an evil heart.” Hebrews 3:12

False Jews are members of “the synagogue of Satan.” Revelations 2:9, 3:9



Here are my two personal favorites:

Everyone will have to worship Jesus -- whether they want to or not. Philippians 2:10

A Christian can not be accused of any wrongdoing. Romans 8:33

Why not pick verses like "love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, mind and strength and love your neighbour as your self." Or " if you're slapped on one cheek turn the other" or "love your enemies and do good to those who persecute you"(like I am doing now), or "if your enemy is hungry feed him and if is he thirsty give him water to drink for in doing so you'll pile burning coals on his head", or "strife to live in peace with all men" or thou shall mot kill" or "as little as you have done for the least of these (alms giving) so you have done for me" or " give and it shall be given unto you, good measure, pressed down, shaken together and running over" or "Jesus went about doing good, healing their sick", or "he who doesn't love his neighbor who he sees cannot claim to love God who he cannot see".

The totality of the Bible preaches peace that's why Christians today live in peace and love.
We all know what the muslims live in and what the quran preaches! You guys are a virus that is better contained before it causes more havoc!

tola9ja:
1 Samuel 15:3New International Version (NIV)

3 Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy[a] all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’”

Illiteracy will not kill you hopefully. A law given to the jews in a wartime situation as a nation. Please who are amalekites today? Jews fought as a nation. The quran tasks your re.tards to kill unbelievers; generally.

tartar9:
worse than animals smh perfect description from the all perfect

Repetitive uneducated animal! Keep showing off your characteristics!

thomasina:
I expect the mods to delete this thread so as not to cause religious sentiments. The times we are in are very dire...

Keep living in fear!

tartar9:
worse than animals smh perfect description from the all perfect

The typical muslim; dumb!

tartar9:
worse than animals smh perfect description from the all perfect

Your allah must be a bigot!

blackjack21:
Oi

11:59:05
Sun, Mar 15, 2015

Impoverished riffraff beefing wealth!

tartar9:
worse than animals smh perfect description from the all perfect.

Satan you mean? He's allah camouflaging as an angel of light and the epitome of imperfection! Just check out modern day islam to confirm it!

Abraham the father of faith was jewish! Moses the deliverer of jews from Egypt was jewish! He was also recorded as the one who said "another prophet like him would come" and that the israelites should listen to him.
If another like moses would come, that makes it Jesus since he was a jew and the one by whom men are delivered from their sins!
Please where does mohammed, an arab from the lineage of ishmael who Abraham under God's direction kicked out of his house with his mother hagar now come in. God clearly states that the child of the bond (slave) woman will not partake in his inheritance or promise. Where does mohammed come in in this story to come and start claiming to have any connection to Jehovah God and His plan for saving humanity? !

tartar9:
well am sorry,you'll are just like Allah(SA) describes "do you think that most of them do hear or even use their reason? They are no better than animals.Nay,they are even worse off(farther astray)"(Qur'an 25:44)

Only hate proceeds from that ill book!

tartar9:
your sin or the sin of an ignorant Adam biting an apple thats the grudge your god has held for milleniums,that's why"Blood needed
to be shed" to get 'saved' thats the so-called 'greatest story ever told' that was why he needed to râpe his mother to give birth to himself and sacrifice himself to himself to save you from himself.thats why you people are always creating various deceits to make us accept such nonsense.it only qualifies to be the stupidest story ever told.

Guess what?! Your god has trapped you all in fear... has done nothing for you all to aid the intrinsic human search for salvation and considers you all to be slaves without an opinion or say in affairs pertaining your own welfare. If something spiritual is not done about the human nature it can never be tamed! Thats what Jesus did and thats what the devil camouflaging as allah in your religion is afraid of and fighting hard to hide!

tartar9:
of course they can never be the same your 'god' was/is a totally useless pathetic thing.was born,shit,pissed,weaned,whined and was crucified on a stick.

Its obvious you're a pedophile, rapist, beheader, terrorist, hypocrite, occultist, idol worshipper, hallucinatory being, drug user because all these were what mohammed was! I rather follow a God who identifies with my nature! Besides mohammed was a mere riffraff who did nothing worthy of accolade!

popcykaylah:
did you read my post carefully..I'm not a muslim but a Christian.. I attended daystar while I was in Nigeria and went to the mosque when I was much younger..every one have got thier own perception about things ..20 people can be in a class and definitely not all of them will under what the teacher has taught them..

Mohammed beheaded thousands, raped children and thousand of women. Don't try to sugar coat the ills in islam!

There are many religions in the world. Only islam has so many self centered self righteous ideologies that are focused on conquering the world using forceful means. So when muslims see others disregarding their religion and dealing with them at arms lenght, they should know that people are well acquainted with their religion and are just trying to be safe rather than sorry!

Jesus alone saves!!!

Allah is obviously satan camouflaging as an angel of light!

Jezyfreezman:
God is Allah, Allah is God
And listen dawg, if u quote me again, nothing will happen, but i will maketh d land be hoteth for theu,
I dnt yarn shiii wid Abdulrobot dat knw nthing abt God, Peace!!

Another terrorist alert!!!

tola9ja:
Luke 14:26New International Version (NIV)

26 “If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a

person cannot be my disciple.

Nobody asked you to kill anybody! Unlike your hate speech quran which admonishes that!

tola9ja:
Luke 14:26New International Version (NIV)

26 “If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a

person cannot be my disciple.

Go and join isis in syria! Even animals know that everything about the quran is hate! When last did you help someone in need? ! Imbe!!!

Jezyfreezman:
May Almight Allah forgive u son, I pity u, Why dnt u just shut up and serve God than sayin what u dnt knw
PEACE bro

Stones don't forgive! Allah is an idol! That's why you bow down everyday to pay homage! Even "mother nature" is not that wicked!