₦airaland Forum

omokab:
This is one of thise things we have been telling about understanding Islam.prophet Muhammed(SAW) have never force anybody to join islam.It is clearly written in the holy book that there is no compulsion in my religion(that is islam),What you are taking as a force is a war between muslim and the people of mecca then who are pegans and unbelievers.They were killing muslim and wanted to kill prophet when his uncle Mutallib died(the head of the idol worshiper in mecca who always protect prophet when they are planning to attack him)After killings of many muslim and prophet ran out of Mecca to Medina which they still continue to attack muslim God now order Muhammed(SAW) to start war against them.Is a long story which I can't tell in details but try to understand or buy english fashion of quran and any one that is not clear to please try to consult a schola for a better clearification.Islam is a broad religion which you need to practice according to law and rules giving by almighty Allah.This is why yoruba call islam "essin imole"that is a difficult religion to understand.ISis and al quiedda have their own proplem it may be political,social or hatred to govt or any other reason it is not for islam.You can see how boko bump mosque and churces.Killing islamic leaders that have a great punishment in the quran.You can't know all this except you consult a scholar to give you details.Thanks

You people think we don't watch the news or have experiences of people who have died because of your lunatic religion.
Without any respect for the dead you jump out and say its not islamic? May you people suffer woes for the ideology you have chosen to embrace!

Gej till whenever!

9jaforlife:
R*etard. It's paining you that your lies are being exposed . Are you saying that Jesus lied when he said this??...

"Do not think that I [Jesus] have come to abolish the Law (the Old Testament) or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law (the Old Testament) until everything is accomplished. (Matthew 5:17-18)

Jesus accomplished it all by His death on the Cross. Thats why He said it is finished. And why I follow Him whole heartedly.
Your riffraff àllah who hasn't done anything special for you is busy promising you eternal sexual orgies.
Thats not special because some night clubs in nigeria already offer that for a meagre fee.
Cant you afford it?

9jaforlife:
Yes, you just wish that someone else would do it for you. At least you agree that Christians abhor themselves You can't even worship in a church that isn't your group! Nonsense. Not surprised why you hate people of other religion

And Sunnis and Shiites do NOT form the majority of Muslims, they're small minority. Get that into your greasy head!

Please quote where you got the insinuation that I "agreed"! Lying riffraff!

9jaforlife:
And can you describe what YOU are doing here You can't even resist my posts. Lol. Baby Kay1, say hi to mummy

Yours is still in a brothel I suppose. Late shift or overtime? !

9jaforlife:
R*etard. It's paining you that your lies are being exposed . Are you saying that Jesus lied when he said this??...

"Do not think that I [Jesus] have come to abolish the Law (the Old Testament) or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law (the Old Testament) until everything is accomplished. (Matthew 5:17-18)

The old Testament was a guide. Jesus embodied it so that by faith in Him we can be made righteous. Why not show where He says it must be practiced to the letter. The value is not reduced by His coming so nothing is removed. But the practice of every single bit is what you haven't shown me where he said it must be put in place!
Did he say practice every bit?
Not a word will be taken away as a guide!
The only practice left is faith in Jesus Christ.
Read John 3:16.

If you like show any thing you want from the Bible, one thing remains that it is not being practiced today. Why? Because of the verse John 3:16.
No one can be perfect through the law. The law was a guide before a higher way came that is faith in Jesus Christ for salvation from sins.
So John 3:16 says that: "for God so loved the world that He gave His Only begotten Son that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life." It goes on further to say that "He (Jesus) did not come to condemn the world but save it"!
No matter how the law was put into practice in those days, it could not bring about salvation.
Today for example, people go to rehab to try to practice "laws" put in place there to gain " salvation" from their ills but many come out worse off!
So a better way prepared from the beginning of time had to be brought into play to save mankind and that was the sacrifice of God through His Only Son on the cross that whoever believes in Him gets a supernatural cleansing from sin and as he walks with Him daily gets to manifest God's glory more and more.
The law kept the children of Israel in line until the coming of the messiah.
With this isn't it obvious why christians have never engaged in any of the old Testament practices to the letter?
Besides God never used force on the israelites. They swore to worship Him. Most of what is quoted today are rules for inter-Israel relations that is their constitution. They never went past the boundary God gave them and weren't concerned with conquering the world through force like islamists want to. They had a moral obligation to keep what God gave them I.e their land. The verses given above were given to Joshua when he was ABOUT to conquer what is now Israeli land not a second afterwards!

9jaforlife:
Kill Nonbelievers
They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)


Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests
Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)

Religions
Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. (Exodus 22:19 NAB)


Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God
Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)


Kill Followers of Other Religions.
1) If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)

2) Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden. When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death. (Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)

APOSTACY

"I will sweep away everything in all your land," says the LORD. "I will sweep away both people and animals alike. Even the birds of the air and the fish in the sea will die. I will reduce the wicked to heaps of rubble, along with the rest of humanity," says the LORD. "I will crush Judah and Jerusalem with my fist and destroy every last trace of their Baal worship. I will put an end to all the idolatrous priests, so that even the memory of them will disappear. For they go up to their roofs and bow to the sun, moon, and stars. They claim to follow the LORD, but then they worship Molech, too. So now I will destroy them! And I will destroy those who used to worship me but now no longer do. They no longer ask for the LORD's guidance or seek my blessings." (Zephaniah 1:2-6 NLT)


Ifeann aka parisbookaddict, don't forget that Jesus sanctioned all the above in this New Testament verse

"Do not think that I [Jesus] have come to abolish the Law (the Old Testament) or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law (the Old Testament) until everything is accomplished." (Matthew 5:17-18)

Im.becile. .. you didn't answer the question. You can post as many as you want but one rule remains that by their fruits you shall know them!
Since Jesus has paid the ultimate price we don't practice judaism but christianity which believes in the power of the cross to save.
So quote as many as you want it will just be dancing around judaism which was a Shadow of things to come I.e salvation today through the cross.
All those parts remain to give us an insight into how and why we got to and Had to get to this point in time when salvation is through faith in Christ and his Finished work on the cross!
The old Testament was in place and practiced before the coming of the messiah. Now after his death and resurrection, we have a brand new hope in worshiping God through faith in Christ.

9jaforlife:
The Sunnis and Shias form a very small percentage of Muslims. Unlike your own religion, where ALL different christian denominations harbour hatred amongst themselves!

Hatred... I've friends in virtually all, visited them in their services and we get along really fine.
For the lie about the shias and sunnis being a small percentage of the muslim population, may your day being filled with evil for waking up and telling a lie as early as now!
At least we don't throw bombs at each other!

9jaforlife:
According to Kay1one2 the the king of hypocrites!!

This small boy trying to identify this early morning. ..

tartar9:
where did you get your concept of jehovah from,the jewish holy book right?the jews whom you lick their ass*ss are only allowed to pray in mosques and forbidden from churches.

Which church?

gatiano:
It is the akhenazi jews that keeps attaching themselves into where they don't belong, murdering and stealing people's culture and heritage.

Who still have their lineage from Abraham. Mohammed comes from an illegitimate lineage and is fighting all he can to be recognised!

gatiano:
There were no phones back in the days, planes did not fly in the air too, there was an advance biological tech that made donkey spoke, why can't they speak today? please do not confuse yourself.

Well your idol definitely didn't create the world if not you won't be asking for biological technology. My God created the world and he can make donkeys sing if he wants to! Idol worshipper!

Horus:
"Only fools duck when the truth is thrown at them."

You just "confessed" that you know very well that the word "Jewish" is not in the bible

I thought you were just given a verse re.tarded low life?!

tartar9:
where did you get your concept of jehovah from,the jewish holy book right?the jews whom you lick their ass*ss are only allowed to pray in mosques and forbidden from churches.

I follow an ideology not a people. Mohammed is a hypocrite and wannabe. Liar better put.

gatiano:
Where in the bible did Abraham say he was jewish? or Moses? according to what you wrote that another like Moses who come, Then Jesus was not a jew.

Keep trying to deny their heritage. Mohammed has none and is simply trying to attach himself to one!

tartar9:
or how christianity came with a bunch of pagan shits and linking it to judaism is ridiculous.judaism even better approves on Islam than xtianity.

Judaism abhors islam as well! Besides you re.tards are told to kill jews and christians! So how can some petty infidel like mohammed with no heritage claim to be with Jehovah the God of the Jews and Christians? Islam has no heritage and is depending on that of Judaism and Christianity to survive!

Horus:
Stop your hypocrite game and realise that if you can only on insults it is because you have no facts

Stop misleading people

Where did you get that word "Jewish" from?

Guess I can't use the word "nairalander" as well because its not on the header of this site! Reason or get a life!

RoyPCain:
@kay1one2; no muslim will tell you he is a jew. even those who are jews among the muslims when he understands what 'jew' means he/she will say i am from the children of israel. the jews hate christianity and it is you mr. christian that is 'attaching yourself' to jews. no arab will accept to be called a jew. none.

so your problem is the sacrificing? Number 1, it is obvious from Quran and among the rabbis and former jews of Madina that reverted to Islam, they swore that they knew it was Ismail that was the 'son of sacrifice' because after the event, God sent Angels to Sodom marked for destruction, and on the way stopped at Ibrahim and Sarah and gave them the good news of Isaac and his son Jacob. you will realize that no father is supposed to die if he were promised to be a father, prophesied before his birth. it will be anti the prophesy if it is to say you will be a father after you are born, yet at young age you are taken to the slaughter house.

did Yahweh through the angels in the bible promise that isaac will be the child through which Abraham will be reckoned and not by the unyielding faith of Abraham in God? we shall examine the time this promise was made as see if Isaac was a father at that time or it is after the event of sacrifice. if not after the event of sacrifice it will be a confusing statement because a child that is supposed to be a father in the future could not be commanded to be slaughtered. any logical mind will ask, but how will he become a father as you have promised if i slaughter him, now?

Bible; it is inconclusive as i read the bible to know truth from the innuendo because what you read is 'after these things' [you scratch your head wanting to know what is 'after these things'? if the things are important to mention in the bible, why not tell us what they are? i come to the conclusion that somebody [the bible scribe] was not telling all the truth. instead hide some truth, mix falsehood with what he wishes to leave for us as the truth. it is own 'truth'/his story, not what God revealed. God does not waste time to wish we know something, but not telling us anything about the very something.

in the day of assembly we shall all know the truth. no one will be judged for being black or white, wealthy or poor, etc but true guidance and obedience only doing good and avoiding evil for the sake of God. it shall not be well with us? it is those who receive the Mercy of God that it is truly well with. I am sure your curse is from following Jesus. definitely Isa ibn Maryam [AS] is your prophet.

One thing is certain. .. the lineage that gave birth to modern day Judaism and Christianity is jewish. How mohammed came in with a bunch of crap is amazing. Everything had been jewish until he came with his lies!

Horus:
"The pot calling the kettle black". Is adding the word Jewish in the bible the way you learn to reason?



You cannot reduce what is non-existent, the Bible have no efficacy in it.



No, what it means is that one is not to add their own words to what God gave. When you said "a statement or message" you forget to realise that a statement or message is created by using words

"Add thou not unto His words, lest He reprove thee, and thou be found a liar" (Proverbs 30:6.)



Where did you get that word "Jewish" from?

I'm not the one acting like an id.iot that can't get the point from the post! Your iq must be quite low!

RoyPCain:
today, the only one who knows the father of a child is the mother. Haggah said Abraham was the father of Ishmael. Abraham said yes, he Ishmael is my son. Sarah was there and she agreed with both Haggah and Abraham that Ishmael was the son of Abraham. where is the problem? have you ever seen a child that his father says he is the biological father that he has a different ethnicity from the father?

even in inter-racial relationship, the child is black if the father is black. it is only in evil mind that they say the child of a white father does not carry his race, maybe not his skin color exactly, but his blood must be flowing in his veins.

which one is the evil person that rejected Ishmael that he is not the son of Abraham as much as Abraham lamented about him and the children of Jacob all the way to Paul wrote about him calling his bloodline 'brethren?' are you saying Sarah is saying Abraham was not the father when she was part of the marriage and pregnancy plans?

what kinda nonsense are you people spewing?


was Abraham Jew or Jewish by religion when it was from the name of Judah the son of Jacob, son of isaac, son of Abraham that the ethnic group Jew aroused and they invented religion called Judaism about this ethnicity? is anyone of you has his great grandfather answer to his own first name? if Judah is your first name and your father is Abraham, when your progeny are called jews, is your great grandfather Abraham also jew?

Quran says Ibraham is not a jew or christian. . . .

Quran says why do you dispute about Ibrahim when it was long after him that Torah and later Injil was revealed?


Ismail [AS] was arabized because he learned and master the arab language brought by the people of "Yemen" when they settled in Makka, the valley that Ibrahim [AS] settled his family of the Hajar and Ismail [AS] branch.


No prophet [AS] from the Islamic point of view is a jew, but from children of Israel. when the word jew is used, its a term scorned always of deceitful people, disbelievers. similar to the word 'christianity' because the people who were true believers with Jesus [AS] were called 'helpers of God' to mean they help the prophet of God, believing in him as a prophet [AS] and helping him on his preaching/dawah.

Stop attaching yourselves to a lineage that doesn't accept you. Jews gave birth to Judaism and to Christianity. You all are wannabes! The son of Abraham that was to be sacrificed was Isaac before the ram showed up. That gives credence to what God told Abraham that through Isaac shall his lineage be reckoned; the child of the promise.
It pained you guys so much you had to go and concoct some unholy occultic crap to use to try to deceive people! It shall not be well with you people and your lies!

Horus:
You are the one who lack common sense. One is not to add their own words to what God gave. Each book in your bible is a specific book that was complete that man was not to add or subtract from. Do you think that adding the word Jewish in the bible is common sense?
If you are Christian do you think that misleading people is common sense?. What is sad is that you know very well that this word is not in the bible but you keep running away from the truth. And you talk about "common sense"?

I won't stretch this further until you learn to reason.
Trinity is another word not in the Bible. Does it reduce the efficacy of the Bible? No.
And please take your re.tarded ideologies away from the Bible because what the verse you're quoting says is to not add anything or remove anything meaning a statement or message from the Bible!
The word Jewish has not removed or added any message from the Bible.

They can take islam along with them!

johnydon22:
hahahahahahahaha thats true ooo... Common sense to believe balaam's donkey talked and some dude stayed in the belly of a fish for three days..lolzzzz..

And that planes fly and phones can be used to communicate! Iti!

Horus:
I tell you for a second time that it is not there so I dont need to check

To make it clear for you, the word Jewish is not in the bible, you will find only the word Jew

The Bible says in several places not to add to his words, so why do you belive that you have the right to add the word Jewish in the bible if it is not there?

The Bible supports common sense something you seem to be lacking!

Horus:
No it is not there, and why are You unable to locate the word Jewish in the bible when you are the one
who used this word to open the thread?

Can you give me the name and number of the chapter where you see the word jewish in your bible?

Keep checking. You'll find it!

Horus:
The word jewish is not in Esther 3:4

Are your confusing the word jewish with the word Jew?

Where is he word jewish in the bible?

Its in common verse sense! Check that too!

Orunto:
Abraham, the father of faith, was Hebrew! Moses the deliverer of the Israelis from Egypt was an Israeli! Many other prophets follow Moses, like Elijah, elisha, etc. They were all Israelis Prophets from God. Followers of The Law, Jesus, were Disciples. Followers of The Lord Christ, The Righteous were Apostles. Now, The Lord God, Jesus Christ, The Righteous, appeared to Mohammed and gave him IS-LAM(MAN-GOD), to worship God, from the Order of Abraham and Is-hmael, the Arabs. The Jews are just children of Juda, one of the 12 children of Jacob, the main man called Israel. The Religions of Judaism, Islam and Christianity date back to the Time Abraham sacrificed "a Lamb" to God. God used that sacrifice to bless three families. God gave Judaism to Abraham, Islam to Is-hmael and Christianity to Is-aac. These three Religions simply mean WORSHIP GOD!!!!!!!!

So why are muslims mandated to kill the other two?! Or trying to claim to be of more importance especially when the foundation of modern society is with Judaism and Christianity? !
The point of the post is to show that mohammed and muslims are basically wannabes!

johnydon22:
Bro am not arguing about anybody's legitimacy.. i am telling you that the Arabs have it that ishmeal is the legitimate son..

Then it is baseless.