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fav444:
It means that after taking those drugs/vaccines, ur birds must not be consume until after three days.

Okay. Thanks a lot.

Please, who knows what could be wrong with my chicks? One was popping blood, so I gave them medicine for coccidiosis yesterday, and now they are all dull and not eating like before. What do you guys think went wrong. Please, experts in the house, help me with an answer, I am really worried, as these chicks have never been like this before. Thanks in advance.

Please, someone should help with an answer to my problem. Thanks in advance.

Well done. Please update with more pictures today. You are doing a great job.

Please help me, I noticed one of my chicks pooping blood, so I gave all of them drugs for coccidiosis yesterday, and now they are all dull. What do you feel is wrong?

Good day people. I gave my chicks a drug, and on the side of the pack, it is written- '3-day withdrawal period.' Please, to the experts in the house, what exactly does this mean? Thank you.

Bekwarra:
There are Yorubas in Edo and Delta states. Go figure.

Because they speak Yoruba fluently doesn't make them Yorubas.

osesology:
Once a prostitute, always a prostitute. If dem like make dem undergo fire baptism, it's already in their blood.
U can quote me anywhere

That's very very true. Even if they go and start a business bringing them money, they will still be sleeping with men for money. Once any girl starts collecting money for sex, whether just a runs girl, or the outright brothel prostitute, it is almost impossible to stop doing that.

Saheedadedeji99:
i am in jos.

Cool.

eddyline:
this noiler stuff sounds really interesting. however, the supplier over here sells them for 160 per bird. for that price, it seems better getting broilers instead.

That's quite expensive. What state are you in? I am sure you should be able to get an agent here on Nairaland that can get them for you at N130.

Saheedadedeji99:
I also got my own noiler birds yesterday. They are 500 pcs, and so far i've lost 2. I made research on noiler and this batch is 4 experiment.

500 pieces for experiment? Men! You are trying o! Which state are you in?

barnabas47:
how can u help me buy carton of a day old noiler.thanks

I am sure there are agents that can help you do that.

Turks:
I have my reservations when it comes to Top Feed..Hybrid will suffice...You can also get them AMO feed.

I tried Top Feed cos people on Nairaland Agric section usually sing praises about it. Anyway, thanks, I will stick to my Hybrid. They have a depot at my bus stop. And by the way, I didn't know Amo too made feed. That's where I got the Noilers. But I have never seen their feed anywhere before. I will lookout for their feed as from now on.

Turks:
Lol...Well, that's why poultry us a full time job. You need to check on them every now and again to keep theit feeders and drinkers clean for their own good

You need to isolate the ones giving the cold pose. Remove them from the flock and treat them seperately. You need to have a set aside compartment. The compartment will serve as an infirmary. Give vitacox and they'll be fine.

OK. Thank you. I will do just that.

Turks:
Coccidiosis isnt all about treatment; it starts with you litter your pen management as well as your litter management.
*Make sure the litter is always dry and loose
*Make sure the birds are not overcrowded
*Make sure the birds don't poop in their feeders and drinkers as this makes the cocci cycle continue.
*Make sure the pen is proprely aerated. Ventilation is key in every pen.

This is the hardest for me. They keep flying on the drinkers and pooping inside. I have to keep changing the water like every hour. But they are doing okay so far...apart from 2-3 who stay in a position like they are cold.

Turks:
I just gave highlights on the cocci management. Once all those highlighted points are followed; you can then commence treatment with Prococc or Vitacox. Vitacox comes highly recommended tho.

What brand of feed do you use at the moment?

Hybrid. Actually, I started with Hybrid, and switched to Top Feeds about two weeks ago. It appears top feed is too finely grinned for them. I switched back to Hybrid this morning, and they are loving it.

Turks:
*What exactly do you need me to speak more on?

*KBC is Kouidjis Broiler Concentrates. They're a brand in Nigeria that sell feed ingredients/additives and they tell you what and how to mix them in what proportion. They sell broiler, layer and turkey concentrates and to be honest, though expensive, the minute you start making use of this concentrate, you'll hate finished feeds cos they're miles better.

Okay. Thanks. I need you to speak more on coccidiosis in Noilers and how best to treat it. I noticed it in some of my Noilers recently. Also, my Noilers are 5 weeks, but they hate finely grounded feed. After they eat the small grains of corn in the feed, they start whining for food again, even if there is still food in their feeding bowls.

If you drink alcohol, reduce it drastically, or stop if you can. And do water therapy- drink a liter of water every morning before eating, and don't eat till 12 noon afterwards. Thank me later.

Turks:
*Something you have to understand is this; noilers are extremely susceptible to coccidiosis so you have to handle them with care. Your litter management has to be on point. I've supplied over 8 people noilers and they've all complained of coccidiosis. I didn't lose birds to cocci cos I know how to manage it real well.

*I love them cos they don't eat much and they come in pairs of males and females

*And NO, they don't come in a ratio of 25males and 25 females...They don't have time to count them as such at the hatchery; what you fine in the carton is what you get. Sometimes you get 55 in a carton. I know someone who got 60 in one carton, 58 in another, 53 in another. He bought 600 noilers from us.

*Noilers at 14weeks would have attained a weight of 2.2kg i.e table size if well managed and fed. I know this for a fact cos I reared them ad that was the result I got

*If you rear them using special concentrates like KBC etc, at 12weeks, they're ready to be sold.

*Noilers are 101% better than all those white cockerels as they have the best FCR and they'll give very good ROI.

Please, can you speak more on this? What is KBC? Thanks in advance.

Turks:
*Something you have to understand is this; noilers are extremely susceptible to coccidiosis so you have to handle them with care. Your litter management has to be on point. I've supplied over 8 people noilers and they've all complained of coccidiosis. I didn't lose birds to cocci cos I know how to manage it real well.

*I love them cos they don't eat much and they come in pairs of males and females

*And NO, they don't come in a ratio of 25males and 25 females...They don't have time to count them as such at the hatchery; what you fine in the carton is what you get. Sometimes you get 55 in a carton. I know someone who got 60 in one carton, 58 in another, 53 in another. He bought 600 noilers from us.

*Noilers at 14weeks would have attained a weight of 2.2kg i.e table size if well managed and fed. I know this for a fact cos I reared them ad that was the result I got

*If you rear them using special concentrates like KBC etc, at 12weeks, they're ready to be sold.

*Noilers are 101% better than all those white cockerels as they have the best FCR and they'll give very good ROI.

I noticed this myself. I have about 50 right now. So, what's the best treatment for the coccidiosis? And what's the best way to prevent it?

noeloge82:
Give them Emberzyn forte double the dosage for 3 days

Thanks.

Elbally:
You mean the comb/crown? At 5-6wks, the comb or crown tend to be more pronounced, larger and red, in the males. Normally they noilers come in a ratio of 50:50 in a carton, 25males and 25 females. As for the black noilers and sported ones, the males normally have a white patch or spot on the head right from day old. And there are other ways of identifying them even from day old.

Okay. Thanks. You want to keep the female for egg production? Maybe I will do that too.

noeloge82:
No matter what u give ur birds without balanced diet it can never compete with birds that eat balanced diet both in weight and size
The best is reduce ur no of stocking and feed very well u will be looking at double profit
That is why at Xmas u see 20wks broilers for 2000 and u see 12wks broilers for 4000

So the choice is urs
U cannot compare profit on broiler meat to any bird for meat u can make more research and find out why big farmers do broilers and layers more on commercial purposes

Please, what medicine can I give my birds...I noticed blood in their poo. Thanks in advance.

Elbally:
50 for starters. But I m already regretting not putting more. Anyway I bought them to experiment, I have already separated them into males and females, but I noticed the ones I m feeding broiler diet are heavier than the ones on growers mash.

Wait, how do you know which ones are male and which ones are female? Most of my own have that red thing on their head...the thing cocks have.

Elbally:
I Vaccinated them with Gumboro when they were 10days old, and then lasota after a week. Even I vaccinated them to be on the safer side, due to the fact that I normally rear broilers, so I vaccinated them as a preventive measure.

Okay. I understand. How many do you have right now?

Elbally:
yeah you can feed them with either domestic or agricultural waste, or even rear them as cockerels, but they do better when fed broiler feed. As for me when brooding them from day old to 6weeks I used broiler starter, after that I decide to mix feed for them. And as for drugs I bought neubron which is a multivitamin, amoxitin for coryza, koksidex against coccidiossis, and then I vaccinated them with gumboro and lasota. So far I bought 3bags of feed, and I mixed a 100kg of feed which they are now on the last quarter.

How many of them do you have?

Elbally:
yeah you can feed them with either domestic or agricultural waste, or even rear them as cockerels, but they do better when fed broiler feed. As for me when brooding them from day old to 6weeks I used broiler starter, after that I decide to mix feed for them. And as for drugs I bought neubron which is a multivitamin, amoxitin for coryza, koksidex against coccidiossis, and then I vaccinated them with gumboro and lasota. So far I bought 3bags of feed, and I mixed a 100kg of feed which they are now on the last quarter.

Please when did you vaccinate them with Lasota and Gumboro? Mine are 4 weeks and I haven't vaccinated them at all, cos I thought they don't need it. Please, enlighten me on this. Thank you.

tolugar:
How exactly is this buhari's fault.

That was a sarcastic comment.

bababuff:
You are right. Our house is just besides the Olubajo's house (No. 32 Olatilewa Street). The balcony rails behind them is still there till tomorrow.

You must know Kayode Olubajo.

Nice to see someone who knows the legendary Olubajo 2 storey building on Olatilewa street. The Kayode Olubajo i know is my late uncle...the founder/owner of Beachline Resort in Ojo. They might have been another Kayode Olubajo sha, cos I was just close to the ones that stayed in that house around the very early 90s to mid 90s...mostly girls. The Olubajo are my father's cousin, so they are like second cousins to me.

Elbally:
Noilers at 9weeks old.

Cool. Two more weeks od good feeding and they would be ready for market. Do you know what they weigh right now? By the way, I really appreciate you uploading the pics.