Agriculture › Re: Commercial Broiler Chicken Producers Lets Meet Here And Share Ideas by kengeorge(op): 6:15pm On Dec 29, 2015 |
are there no broiler farmers in the house, please lets share Ideas |
Agriculture › Re: Commercial Broiler Chicken Producers Lets Meet Here And Share Ideas by kengeorge(op): 6:33pm On Dec 28, 2015 |
which hatchery has the fastest growing broiler DOC? |
Agriculture › Re: Commercial Broiler Chicken Producers Lets Meet Here And Share Ideas by kengeorge(op): 11:00pm On Dec 27, 2015 |
Which feed has the best FCR? |
Agriculture › Commercial Broiler Chicken Producers Lets Meet Here And Share Ideas by kengeorge(op): 10:01pm On Dec 27, 2015 |
Hello all,
I am opening this thread with the intent of creating a forum where broiler farmers can share input about the key performance indices for profitable broiler production. After 3 year in the egg production business, I have decided to go into broiler production come January 2016 as a means of generating additional income and because of the short term nature .
I would like experienced farmers who are already into broiler production to come contribute so that every one can benefit.
Information such as the best hatcheries to get fast growing DOC
the best feed that guarantee's optimum growth
Marketing
Vaccination and general management
Please let the discussion begin |
Agriculture › Re: Starting A Poultry Farm (a Blog) by kengeorge: 7:19pm On Dec 25, 2015 |
tuk2ato: Thank you and God bless. Please if i need to derive a finisher diet from the formula given, which ingredients should i vary? 7 Broiler FinisherMaize 600kg Soy Meal 200kg (or use 290kg without GNC) G N C 90kg Full fat 30kg Wheat Offal 18kg lime stone 25kg Bone meal 25kg Methionine 2kg lysin 2kg premix 2.5kg Salt 2.5kg Toxin binder 1kg thanks |
Agriculture › Re: Starting A Poultry Farm (a Blog) by kengeorge: 1:40pm On Dec 24, 2015 |
tuk2ato: Please can you share that of broilers too. Thanks. Feed for broiler is very subjective, but I will just give an Ideal moderate formula Broiler StarterMaize 580kg Soy Meal 290kg Full fat 30kg Fish Meal 10kg Wheat Offal 25kg lime stone 27kg Bone meal 25kg Methionine 2kg lysin 2kg premix 2.5kg Salt 2.5kg Toxin binder 1kg thanks |
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Agriculture › Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by kengeorge: 8:12pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
soft777: this my phone number sir ) 0033758786306 how far, still waiting for that your feed formulation write up you promised to post |
Agriculture › Re: Starting A Poultry Farm (a Blog) by kengeorge: 6:01am On Dec 07, 2015 |
Feed formular for laying birds ,
maize 500 kg
soyabean meal 200 kg
Full fat soya 20kg
Wheat Offal 144 kg
Limestone 100 kg
Bonemeal 25 kg
Layer premix 2.5 kg
Metheonine 2 kg
Lysin 2 kg
Salt 3.5 kg
Toxin binder 1 kg
the formular is for 1 ton (1000 kg) of layer feed = 40 bags
Enjoy. |
Agriculture › Re: How To Produce Standard And Quality Poultry Feed Without Owning A Factory by kengeorge: 6:00am On Dec 07, 2015 |
feed formular for laying birds ,
maize 500 kg
soyabean meal 200 kg
Full fat soya 20kg
Wheat Offal 144 kg
Limestone 100 kg
Bonemeal 25 kg
Layer premix 2.5 kg
Metheonine 2 kg
Lysin 2 kg
Salt 3.5 kg
Toxin binder 1 kg
the formular is for 1 ton (1000 kg) of layer feed = 40 bags
Enjoy. |
Agriculture › Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by kengeorge: 7:19am On Nov 30, 2015 |
soft777: Very sorry if i sounded a little bit upset accept my apology . You see GOD is the author of everything , we only try our best to distribute the little knowledge we have at no extra cost for everyone to benefit .When i guide new farmers i always guide them on new mordern and cheap practices, those that contact me via whatsapp can testify to great increase on there farms output, , you see , many farmers makes a lot of mistakes, though they realise profit but ,my write up is to give them tips to increase there profits , i give my consultancy for free even on my whats app . But there are a lot of factors we just joke about in the business , things we just say it dosent really matter ; but my brother it matters greatly. let me put some things to you . DO YOU KNOW ONLY TEMPERATURE CHANGE CAN AFFECT YOUR FCR .. what are the best temperature to attain best fcr ? What ph is best ? what time of feeding is best ? what best water qualit? what best suplimentary feed ? what local cheap feed with higher crude protein ? what best environmental requirements . like shading your fish , do u know catfish grows faster when confined in a dark environment ? How do u determin your fingerlings are got from broods weighing 2kg and above ? . i can name a lot more ... thats why sometimes visiting a high capacity farm can help explain these things better , but am not here to scare people; but i want you to know even at your backyard you can have high capacity . Its just talking to the right consultant to put u through , less i forget do u know , polyculture of catfish and tilapia is no longer in vogue , it has just been determine that african catfish are not good predators and tend to burn there energy needed to convert feed to flesh in runing after tilapia fries in a polyculture system . these are latest discovries . There are better and best ways u can feed your tillapia fries or fingerlings to your catfish without additional cost , and this can save your feed tremendously because with this new and simple process , you can skip a day feed of the more costly pellet feed in that you feed tilapia fries today at no cost and you feed your foreign feed the next day . Calculate how much your profit will increase , when u have to cut your total feed fed by half. In the fish world there are latest and cheap modification for profit maximization .. we can not complete all in just one write up . its wider than that. THANK YOU Please @soft777 were can I get fish oil to buy in Lagos? |
Agriculture › Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by kengeorge: 7:06am On Nov 30, 2015 |
heartbitmi: @soft777. thank you very much for ur reports and time. but honestly i think if we can achieve feeding a fish to 1kg with N130 as u have said, then we will be smiling to the bank always. please kindly share the formula for the feed u use so we can learn. at least the popular feed formula given by ablx is not in any way cheap. we need this...regards Please @soft777 were can I get fish oil to buy in Lagos? |
Agriculture › Re: 4000 Point Of Lay Pullet For Sale In Lagos by kengeorge(op): 1:13pm On Aug 22, 2015 |
This stock is available |
Agriculture › Re: Point Of Lay Turkeys Are For Sale In Ibadan by kengeorge: 11:32pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
Primegold: Hi.
What's the breed? Local or foreign?
How much?
Can you post pictures? I would love to see what you have.
Regards.
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Agriculture › Re: Four Weeks Broilers For Sale by kengeorge: 6:42am On Aug 21, 2015*. Modified: 8:01am On Aug 21, 2015 |
4000 Point of lay Pullets for sale
The pullet were breed under hygiene condition Vaccination up to date ND + IB + EDS already administered High Livability and low mortality rate all through the rearing period Excellent flock uniformity.
DOC from Zartech
Call 08033439957
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Agriculture › 4000 Point Of Lay Pullet For Sale In Lagos by kengeorge(op): 6:40am On Aug 21, 2015*. Modified: 8:51am On Aug 21, 2015 |
4000 Point of lay Pullets for sale
The pullet were breed under hygiene condition Vaccination up to date ND + IB + EDS already administered High Livability and low mortality rate all through the rearing period Excellent flock uniformity.
DOC from Zartech
Call 08033439957
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Agriculture › Re: Starting A Poultry Farm (a Blog) by kengeorge: 6:37am On Aug 21, 2015*. Modified: 8:52am On Aug 21, 2015 |
4000 Point of lay Pullets for sale
The pullet were breed under hygiene condition Vaccination up to date ND + IB + EDS already administered High Livability and low mortality rate all through the rearing period Excellent flock uniformity.
DOC from Zartech
Call 08033439957
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Agriculture › Re: Point Of Lay Turkeys Are For Sale In Ibadan by kengeorge: 6:35am On Aug 21, 2015 |
4000 Point of lay Pullets for sale
The pullet were breed under hygiene condition Vaccination up to date ND + IB + EDS already administered High Livability and low mortality rate all through the rearing period Excellent flock uniformity.
DOC from Zartech
Call 08033439957 |
Agriculture › Re: Starting A Poultry Farm (a Blog) by kengeorge: 7:58am On Aug 12, 2015 |
twoMcfemad: I urgently need old layers to buy. I have 1500 old layers to sell, but selling starts 30th of August, Location Ibeju lekki Lagos. Call 08033439957 |
Agriculture › Re: Catfish Biz by kengeorge: 1:08am On Jul 31, 2015 |
do you buy 2kg fish? |
Agriculture › Re: Starting A Poultry Farm (a Blog) by kengeorge: 10:07am On Jul 09, 2015 |
what is the mixing ratio @grownaira? grownaira: The setback with Koudjis line concentrates is that they are too expensive. The one I commonly use b4, which u add only maize now cost N12,200(50Kg) in my locality. |
Agriculture › Re: Starting A Poultry Farm (a Blog) by kengeorge: 5:46am On Jul 09, 2015 |
fnk: All the birds didn't die at once, we called in different vets, their conclusion was where we got the feed from, in good fath a friend offered to help cut my cost on feed my compounding feed for me. He has a mill in his farm where mill for his layers. The proximity of his mill to the layers pen is very close, so buying those feed and taking them to my farm was like introducing the bacteria from his farm to my, while his birds are muted to those bio security, my farm and birds weren't , so, everyday, we were recording high number of mutuality, and trying to treat the birds with different kind of drugs, and their suffering from the attack, stalled their growth, so, a 12 weeks bird was weighing 700g so we have to destroy over 1000 birds ourself, because at that point, the cost of raising the birds were already above N1,500/bird. So, it didn't make sense to continue trying to feed them or treat them. So, I have learned from that experience, I was trying to save money and didn't think through the descsion. But everything was done with good intention, my friend wanted to help me. So, don't buy feed from a farm where the mill is right next to the pen of their own birds, you will be bridging the bio security in your farm with the virus and bacteria from the other farm. I am the friend who helped @FNK mill the feed. @FNK this is Ken, I would rather have read this post and not respond but for the nature of the thread and the fact that we are all learning here I will say a little bit of my experience. First off all sorry for the loss, I know what it feels like to loose that number of birds. Though you didn't particularly blame me for the incident, but I feel like I did something wrong introducing you to something like that. while there maybe a possibility as to the reason given by your vet (In Theory). I am somehow not convinced about the cause given by your vet. As at the time I introduced you to this feed, I was feeding my 4000 DOC with the feed and I was not raising those birds in my Main Farm where my feed mill is located. I was brooding in the small pen at the back of my house. and I was getting excellent result with them because it was my first time trying out Animal Care Broiler Concentrate. The growth and the livability was encouraging hence I called you and told you about it. If you would recall in time past you asked me if I can mill broiler feed for you but I said no because I don't do broiler and don't want to take any risk on a formula I have not tried out myself. I keep only layers and that is the formula I have and have tried. after the first batch of 4000 DOC, I took another 4000 DOC which I also brooded in my house and at 13 weeks my mortality is less than 5%. With my little experience in this industry, farmers don't have a support system, 90% of the so called vet you have around don't know what they are doing, they solve most of your problems by asking you questions and finding loopholes in your operation and tell you that is the reason. I have had my own bitter experiences with them and at this point I just rely more on my past experiences and that of fellow farmers. The first DOC of 4000 was from zartech, they delivered 4000 to me and 4000 to my friend same day from the same hatchery, but when brooding started we got completely different result. while he recorded high early mortality, my mortality rate was near zero. So my point here is there are so many factor that can affect a flock at different times. The fact that you mill your own feed is always a flag when anything is happening with your flock, I have seen that time and time again. Farmer lets be wise. |
Agriculture › Re: Starting A Poultry Farm (a Blog) by kengeorge: 8:56pm On May 19, 2015 |
What do you do when you discover that your point of lay birds have CRD? most of the time it leads to early lay mortality and it is very difficult to treat. which kind of medication can help you through this phase as I have used tylosin based drug, enrofloxacin and the situation just persist. kelvin96: For those of us picking birds(broilers) from zartech farms, i think what we should watch out for is CRD. And the only way you can do tackle this CRD issue , is adhere to their Medication program. I happen to have one of their program ...This program was given to me by Ziad (He was incharge of the benin Branch) But i think he has been replaced.
Day 1-5 ......Tylosin +vitamin+Enrofloxacin Day 7-11.....Furaltadone(Dose- 1gram to 5liter) Day 21-23...Tylosin +Vitamin+Enrofloxacin or Ciprofoxacin And please no feed for the broilers for the first 3 hours, only water and drugs.
I have been using this program alongside the program my vet gave to me, that one has the vaccination schedule on it and CRD has been a thing of the past in my broilers. And for those guys who pick birds from other hacteries, i think u can still use dis as a guide. Sometimes when i pick birds from other hacteries, what i do is very simple.....I use my normal program, but at day 6 to 9 i use tylosin and enrofloxacin for them, them after 2weeks i repeat same treatment again....And CRD will never come back, as long as you dont overcrowd them or dent them proper ventilation.... |
Agriculture › Re: Starting A Poultry Farm (a Blog) by kengeorge: 6:38am On May 07, 2015 |
Eggcelent: sukkotfarm. I'm yet to do black layers in a significant number. However, I have twice had them amidst my Isa Brown flocks. The first were 15 in number. The second; 40 pieces. What I noticed were that the black birds had greater resistance to diseases than their brown counterparts. However, it took them longer to attain their peak production. In the meantime, how much is Zartech DOC now? Success. Zartech DOC current prices Black = N110 Brown = N130 |
Agriculture › Re: Starting A Poultry Farm (a Blog) by kengeorge: 8:53pm On Apr 07, 2015 |
adedam007: the man said is 3000 per carton and i will still pay 10 per bird for the vaccination Please, you guys always using agents to purchase DOC you need to grow up, these guys will reap you off cos they know you don't have direct contact with the hatcheries. white cockerel can be as low as N5 sometimes and max of N15 while black can be as high as N20 max. here is Zartech direct number 08055990399 Enjoy. |
Agriculture › Re: Starting A Poultry Farm (a Blog) by kengeorge: 10:06pm On Mar 13, 2015 |
tunezvic: mr man, you dont have to scope me to get the formula from me. just tell me you want my formula. So I am scoping you ba?, its funny how people like you would seek help from a forum like this with no intention of giving anything back, your response goes to show how naive and selfish you are, what in God's name do I need your formula for?, By God's Grace I don't only mill my feed I own my mill. you have a formula that you don't know the content and you think its a big deal to have a formula. I can give you many for free. |
Agriculture › Re: Starting A Poultry Farm (a Blog) by kengeorge: 7:17pm On Mar 12, 2015 |
tunezvic: i dont know how to measure the crude protein and metabolize energy of the feed but i got the the formula from the hatchery that i bought the chicks from and pertaining to the feed, i will increase it to the amount you suggested. Can you share the formula so I can help you calculate the crude protein and Energy in the feed? |
Agriculture › Re: Starting A Poultry Farm (a Blog) by kengeorge: 8:58am On Mar 08, 2015 |
TheShootist: Is anyone here into 'brood and sales?' How many weeks old is brood and sell? |
Agriculture › Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by kengeorge: 4:46pm On Feb 21, 2015 |
Please were can I get tilapia fingerlings? |
Agriculture › Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by kengeorge: 2:47pm On Feb 15, 2015 |
Belexy: Price of juveniles will range frm N20 - N30 depending on who is selling to you and location. Most times you get it for N25 per one. For feeding: budget N230 per fish till table size. Wooden frame tarpaulin pond of 22ft×8ft×3.5ft will take ur 1000 adult fishes (dats d size i use). You will need a second pond of say 12 ×6×3.5 to sort. With this two ponds, ur fishes will av excess space and will grow really well. Depending on the type of wood you use for ur wooden pond it will cost u between 60K - 100K (for the big sized pond) for a completed ready to stock tarpaulin pond. Before you start consider your water source and drainage. Very important. Please @ Belexy, do you know where I can Get original Tarpaulin? . The size big enough to construct a 15ft by 15ft without sewing. I can really use your help, kindly drop me your number at kengeorgewests@yahoo.com, mine is 08033439957. Thanks. |
Agriculture › Re: Starting A Poultry Farm (a Blog) by kengeorge: 1:34am On Jan 18, 2015 |
fnk: Where are you flying from, I will back in the country ny this weekend. FNK Happy new year This is Ken, can't reach you, of course I know why, Please can you get some nipple drinkers down for me?, I will reimburse you when you return, say 100 dollars worth. Thanks |
Agriculture › Re: Farm Fresh Eggs Available In Large Quantities by kengeorge(op): 11:16pm On Aug 26, 2014 |
my farm is at awoyaya, Ibeju local government area.
price range is between 550 - 650
thanks |