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Re: Starting A Poultry Farm (a Blog) by grownaira: 11:35am On May 19, 2015
davidzfarm18:
@Grownaira: Thanks a million.
By LA. I believe you mean Laxota.
E S T contains sulphur and pple say it's not good for laying birds.
Opinion welcomed pls

U are welcome boss. LA injection isn't lasota ooo. It's Long Active(or Acting) Anti-Biotic. It boosts the imune system of birds.

As for EST, yes it contains a form of inpure sulphur which doesn't affect laying birds.

However, to be on the safer side, you can use "Tylosine". I recommend that of Kepro.
Re: Starting A Poultry Farm (a Blog) by AkayTopsy: 11:56am On May 19, 2015
davidzfarm18:

AkayTopsy: I'm having similar issue with my birds (Respiratory) No Lab in abuja. I have tried Conflox, tylodox, Anitilan, Eucament Plus,Ciprovet. Pls what drug solved the problem for you.

I just went through my records now; the Respiratory problem lasted for like 10days we started treatment with Gentadox then Tyldox for 3days before switching to Floricol for the last 5days. In addition to all d antibiotics was IntrovitA + Stresroak.

We also had d same problem recently with both the Layers and broilers. And they were both placed on E.S.T Mix (based on Grownaira's old post. the layers seem to have overcome the respiratory problem but the broilers are still sneezing. My plan is to allow them take vitamins for 2-3days then try another antibiotic drug.
Re: Starting A Poultry Farm (a Blog) by AkayTopsy: 12:20pm On May 19, 2015
@davidsfarm. I also agree with grownaira on the issue of sulphur and egg production. Using E.S.T Mix, there was no significant drop in our production level.

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Re: Starting A Poultry Farm (a Blog) by davidzfarm18(m): 12:48pm On May 19, 2015
Akaytopsy. I will mix the E.S.T when next I'm milling. presently have feed that will last till month end. Pls answer the question on the cost per bag.
Re: Starting A Poultry Farm (a Blog) by omotititi: 1:04pm On May 19, 2015
A move on how we can reduce cost of feeding for laying birds will tremendously help us all. Please let someone answer Davidzfarm question on cost of feed per bag. In Benin,it cost me about 1900 to compound my layers mash. I am still of the opinion that it can be less than this for us to be profitable as the price of eggs is still hoving between N550 and N650 per crates.
Re: Starting A Poultry Farm (a Blog) by kelvin96: 2:19pm On May 19, 2015
For those of us picking birds(broilers) from zartech farms, i think what we should watch out for is CRD. And the only way you can do tackle this CRD issue , is adhere to their Medication program.
I happen to have one of their program ...This program was given to me by Ziad (He was incharge of the benin Branch) But i think he has been replaced.

Day 1-5 ......Tylosin +vitamin+Enrofloxacin
Day 7-11.....Furaltadone(Dose- 1gram to 5liter)
Day 21-23...Tylosin +Vitamin+Enrofloxacin or Ciprofoxacin
And please no feed for the broilers for the first 3 hours, only water and drugs.

I have been using this program alongside the program my vet gave to me, that one has the vaccination schedule on it and CRD has been a thing of the past in my broilers.
And for those guys who pick birds from other hacteries, i think u can still use dis as a guide. Sometimes when i pick birds from other hacteries, what i do is very simple.....I use my normal program, but at day 6 to 9 i use tylosin and enrofloxacin for them, them after 2weeks i repeat same treatment again....And CRD will never come back, as long as you dont overcrowd them or dent them proper ventilation....

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Re: Starting A Poultry Farm (a Blog) by AkayTopsy: 4:03pm On May 19, 2015
davidzfarm18:
Akaytopsy. I will mix the E.S.T when next I'm milling. presently have feed that will last till month end. Pls answer the question on the cost per bag.

A bag of layer feed is #2000 all expenses included (i.e milling + tpt to farm)

Breakdown for a ton(1000kg):
KLC5- 50kg@ #12400
Maize- 570kg @ #5000/100kg
SoyaMeal- 180kg@ #155/kg
WheatOfal- 100kg@ #56/kg
Limestome- 100kg@ #17/kg
FeedMill- #3000/ton
Tpt to Farm- #900

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Re: Starting A Poultry Farm (a Blog) by grownaira: 5:16pm On May 19, 2015
Hello fellows
Pls what's the current average cost of DOC broiler and cockerel?
Re: Starting A Poultry Farm (a Blog) by adetoyesem: 5:49pm On May 19, 2015
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Re: Starting A Poultry Farm (a Blog) by kengeorge: 8:56pm On May 19, 2015
What do you do when you discover that your point of lay birds have CRD? most of the time it leads to early lay mortality and it is very difficult to treat. which kind of medication can help you through this phase as I have used tylosin based drug, enrofloxacin and the situation just persist.

kelvin96:
For those of us picking birds(broilers) from zartech farms, i think what we should watch out for is CRD. And the only way you can do tackle this CRD issue , is adhere to their Medication program.
I happen to have one of their program ...This program was given to me by Ziad (He was incharge of the benin Branch) But i think he has been replaced.

Day 1-5 ......Tylosin +vitamin+Enrofloxacin
Day 7-11.....Furaltadone(Dose- 1gram to 5liter)
Day 21-23...Tylosin +Vitamin+Enrofloxacin or Ciprofoxacin
And please no feed for the broilers for the first 3 hours, only water and drugs.

I have been using this program alongside the program my vet gave to me, that one has the vaccination schedule on it and CRD has been a thing of the past in my broilers.
And for those guys who pick birds from other hacteries, i think u can still use dis as a guide. Sometimes when i pick birds from other hacteries, what i do is very simple.....I use my normal program, but at day 6 to 9 i use tylosin and enrofloxacin for them, them after 2weeks i repeat same treatment again....And CRD will never come back, as long as you dont overcrowd them or dent them proper ventilation....
Re: Starting A Poultry Farm (a Blog) by davidzfarm18(m): 10:01pm On May 19, 2015
AkayTopsy:

A bag of layer feed is #2000 all expenses included (i.e milling + tpt to farm)
Breakdown for a ton(1000kg): KLC5- 50kg@ #12400 Maize- 570kg @ #5000/100kg SoyaMeal- 180kg@ #155/kg WheatOfal- 100kg@ #56/kg Limestome- 100kg@ #17/kg FeedMill- #3000/ton Tpt to Farm- #900
Most grateful Sir. In Abuja, the Cost of Wheat offal is presently #75 though i mill for N2000. I' ve really learnt a lot today. Be Blessed.
Re: Starting A Poultry Farm (a Blog) by davies427: 10:06pm On May 19, 2015
davidzfarm18:
Great Farmers.
pls is anybody in the house milling for laying birds and getting good production.
Urgent response pls.
@ davidzfarm. I mill my feed for my birds on d farm. Hope no issue. Am located in ib, if i can be a source of help for u, let me knw
Re: Starting A Poultry Farm (a Blog) by samshoz(m): 10:18pm On May 19, 2015
My local turkey hatched 5 chicks out of 12 eggs, are the not going to hatch anymore? Can anyone help with site where I can read about rearing or local turkey? Oga farmtech, this is your forte.
Re: Starting A Poultry Farm (a Blog) by FarmTech(m): 10:42pm On May 19, 2015
kengeorge:
What do you do when you discover that your point of lay birds have CRD? most of the time it leads to early lay mortality and it is very difficult to treat. which kind of medication can help you through this phase as I have used tylosin based drug, enrofloxacin and the situation just persist.

..
Try to do antibiotic sensitivity test. Tylodox or anitylodox worked for me then.
Re: Starting A Poultry Farm (a Blog) by FarmTech(m): 10:43pm On May 19, 2015
AkayTopsy:

A bag of layer feed is #2000 all expenses included (i.e milling + tpt to farm)
Breakdown for a ton(1000kg): KLC5- 50kg@ #12400 Maize- 570kg @ #5000/100kg SoyaMeal- 180kg@ #155/kg WheatOfal- 100kg@ #56/kg Limestome- 100kg@ #17/kg FeedMill- #3000/ton Tpt to Farm- #900
.. KLC5 means?
Re: Starting A Poultry Farm (a Blog) by FarmTech(m): 10:48pm On May 19, 2015
samshoz:
My local turkey hatched 5 chicks out of 12 eggs, are the not going to hatch anymore? Can anyone help with site where I can read about rearing or local turkey? Oga farmtech, this is your forte.
..
Try this one http://www.google.com/m?q=raising%20turkey%20in%20the%20tropics&client=ms-opera-mini&channel=new
Re: Starting A Poultry Farm (a Blog) by AkayTopsy: 5:40am On May 20, 2015
davidzfarm18:


Most grateful Sir.
In Abuja, the Cost of Wheat offal is presently #75 though i mill for N2000.
I' ve really learnt a lot today.
Be Blessed.

Wow #75, how much is SoyaMeal and Maize over there?

@farmtech KLC5 is Koudjis Layers CONCENTRATE
Re: Starting A Poultry Farm (a Blog) by AkayTopsy: 5:41am On May 20, 2015
davidzfarm18:


Most grateful Sir.
In Abuja, the Cost of Wheat offal is presently #75 though i mill for N2000.
I' ve really learnt a lot today.
Be Blessed.

Wow #75, how much is SoyaMeal and Maize over there?

@farmtech KLC5 is Koudjis Layers CONCENTRATE (5% concentrate / ton)
Re: Starting A Poultry Farm (a Blog) by AkayTopsy: 5:51am On May 20, 2015
@grownaira and All, Would u pls throw more light on how to Mix E.S.T Mix with feed since it must be consumed immediately?

what quantity of feed?

How long do they mean by IMMEDIATELY (30mins? 1hr?)
Re: Starting A Poultry Farm (a Blog) by davies427: 6:53am On May 20, 2015
AkayTopsy:
@grownaira and All, Would u pls throw more light on how to Mix E.S.T Mix with feed since it must be consumed immediately?

what quantity of feed?

How long do they mean by IMMEDIATELY (30mins? 1hr?)
Y nt use pure tylozine. U can mix it in there food n it very effective. Dat from my own experience. I think one bag is like 17500 from agritech. Had similar issue wit my birds n it was effective

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Re: Starting A Poultry Farm (a Blog) by AkayTopsy: 8:37am On May 20, 2015
davies427:

Y nt use pure tylozine. U can mix it in there food n it very effective. Dat from my own experience. I think one bag is like 17500 from agritech. Had similar issue wit my birds n it was effective

Tnx @davies427 Pure Tylosin @#17500? how many Kg is d bag and how many days dosage would dat be?
Re: Starting A Poultry Farm (a Blog) by eggxel: 8:57am On May 20, 2015
@Akaytopsy, pls what has been your experience with the feedmills? wen u go to the feed mills, do u watch over your feed while the milling is ongoing; cos iv bin told by a couple farmers that those guys at the feedmill might steal from the components before processing or alter the feeds by taking off some of the more expensive components (eg soyabean) and replacing them with cheaper components (eg wheat offal or dusa), as such still achieving 1 ton but then compromising quality (by reducing the %tage of crude protein in this example above) to the detriment of the birds. I would be grateful if I can share from the experience of all esteemed house members who mill their feeds.
Re: Starting A Poultry Farm (a Blog) by EarlyBaba: 9:51am On May 20, 2015
I'm a living witness of the business. my friend who's farm is having about 17000 birds today we both started by getting a loan from a micro finance bank using our certificate as collateral we've both completed our dues and now I'm sure he is also counting in millions like me because his last car is an SUV
the business is really good
Re: Starting A Poultry Farm (a Blog) by omotititi: 9:54am On May 20, 2015
@Akaytopsy, thanks for been very supportive. Please what has been the percentage production since you have been using this feed formulae you stated above? Is KLC5 readily available all year round and can on get it to buy in Benin City? Please expatiate.
Re: Starting A Poultry Farm (a Blog) by AkayTopsy: 12:56pm On May 20, 2015
@eggxel Theft/sharp practice @feedmill is surely inevitable if you are absent during the milling. but I always make sure either me or 1 of my staff is present to tie the bags as they load the feed. But still at that my bro this guys can still leave few Kgs spilled around from several customers, gather them at intervals and sell it to walk-in petty/backyard farmers.

@omotiti I've always been a broiler farmer all along but I was introduced to Koudjia Broiler Concentrate (KBC) and the result was and it's still great. So this set of Layers is a pilot project to enable me learn about egg production. I started them with KBC then switched to KLC from 6wks. @34wks the egg production level is currently 80-3%. This is the highest pdtn level so far, hopefully they are yet to hit the pick pdtn level.

I understand they have a SalesRep in Asaba serving the benin axis.

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Re: Starting A Poultry Farm (a Blog) by fnk: 1:08pm On May 20, 2015
yemmit90:


when did you buy your Obasanjo DOC? Obasanjo DOC is one of the best i've seen so far. They are very strong and healthy.

besides, with quality feed and good management, you should be able to get a minimum of 1.8kg and above in 6 weeks.

It has been a while. I want to try them again though. Thank you.
Re: Starting A Poultry Farm (a Blog) by davidzfarm18(m): 1:21pm On May 20, 2015
AkayTopsy:

Wow #75, how much is SoyaMeal and Maize over there?
@farmtech KLC5 is Koudjis Layers CONCENTRATE (5% concentrate / ton)
Maize #60 Soya Meal N160
Re: Starting A Poultry Farm (a Blog) by obstead200(m): 1:31pm On May 20, 2015
davidzfarm18:

You can , but the disadvantages outweigh the advantage
1. you'll be forced to move out by ur neighbors sooner than expected because of odours from the pen.
2. Noise from car hoot, dogs barking affects laying birds.
3. diseases are transfered easily.
4. You can't use battery cage in such area but deep litters with it's numerous disadvantages.
@ the bolded, pls educate me better. why can't he use battery cage in a land like that? I have seen the pic of the site
Re: Starting A Poultry Farm (a Blog) by davidzfarm18(m): 2:13pm On May 20, 2015
obstead200:

@ the bolded, pls educate me better. why can't he use battery cage in a land like that? I have seen the pic of the site
The Odour from Battery cage will make the neighbour get a court injunction restraining him from operating leading to loss of investment.
Re: Starting A Poultry Farm (a Blog) by davies427: 2:19pm On May 20, 2015
AkayTopsy:


Tnx @davies427 Pure Tylosin @#17500? how many Kg is d bag and how many days dosage would dat be?
It 1kg if am nt wrong. N we use it 4times cos d birds were consuming 350kg per day. N agritech is the only place i ave seen it soo far.
Re: Starting A Poultry Farm (a Blog) by omotititi: 2:19pm On May 20, 2015
Thank you AkayTopsy. I will check their website and get a contact number to call. I appreciate.
Re: Starting A Poultry Farm (a Blog) by eggxel: 3:06pm On May 20, 2015
Thanx AkayTopsy. I appreciate u.

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